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« Reply #26100 on: September 19, 2020, 06:40:34 AM »
Congrats FUME5 on setting a NEW RECORD!!!

32 DAYS and the ban is already over but still duration pending!

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #26101 on: September 19, 2020, 06:47:03 AM »

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #26102 on: September 19, 2020, 06:52:25 AM »
Aren’t last wishes legally binding if they are written? Can’t dems use that as a defense?
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« Reply #26103 on: September 19, 2020, 07:04:42 AM »
Congrats FUME5 on setting a NEW RECORD!!!

32 DAYS and the ban is already over but still duration pending!

Bye FUME5, see you next ban!  :lol

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« Reply #26104 on: September 19, 2020, 07:05:01 AM »
I've already said this is most likely conservative types and toxic masculinity.
70% Hispanic women suggests as much that it isn't a "Hispanic" issue.

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« Reply #26105 on: September 19, 2020, 07:09:49 AM »
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Early, but..

US PoliEra 2020 |OT8| Do It For Her
Fuck yes.

And the first thing we see on the OP better be the Simpsons image but with RBG photos.

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« Reply #26106 on: September 19, 2020, 07:15:10 AM »
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$1500 it is then.

Donations are PoliERA's bling.

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« Reply #26107 on: September 19, 2020, 07:16:43 AM »
Poliera larping as Democratic Party Elites will never not be sad as fuck :doge
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« Reply #26108 on: September 19, 2020, 07:19:23 AM »
KA-CHING

$1500 it is then.

Donations are PoliERA's bling.

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If you can’t afford to eat after donating, then don’t donate.

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« Reply #26109 on: September 19, 2020, 08:52:55 AM »
It's spreading!

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Just got up and went to the bakery. The clerk was very happy about RBG passing. She said to me that she hopes that Roe vs. Wade is overturned and trans people get murdered on sight like Rowling suggested.
While it’s weird for a store clerk tojust blurt this out, especially considering this happened in Germany, but nothing surprises me anymore after Trump emboldened these people.

Did she ask you if you were gay by any chance?

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« Reply #26110 on: September 19, 2020, 08:57:49 AM »
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« Reply #26111 on: September 19, 2020, 09:05:24 AM »
PS5 shortages, Cyberpunk’s release and Trump’s re-election are going to break Ree.

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« Reply #26112 on: September 19, 2020, 09:11:45 AM »
People know exactly what they’re doing, I don’t care how polite they are about it.

*wall of text*
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« Reply #26113 on: September 19, 2020, 09:21:25 AM »
People know exactly what they’re doing, I don’t care how polite they are about it.

*wall of text*

the posts that come directly after this rant are  :delicious


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« Reply #26114 on: September 19, 2020, 09:25:29 AM »
It's spreading!

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Just got up and went to the bakery. The clerk was very happy about RBG passing. She said to me that she hopes that Roe vs. Wade is overturned and trans people get murdered on sight like Rowling suggested.
While it’s weird for a store clerk tojust blurt this out, especially considering this happened in Germany, but nothing surprises me anymore after Trump emboldened these people.

Were they Catholic or Muslim?

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« Reply #26115 on: September 19, 2020, 09:35:31 AM »

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« Reply #26116 on: September 19, 2020, 09:43:03 AM »
It seems like just the other week era were calling RBG a selfish fucking reckless bitch for attending a family members wedding, instead of the An Hero she has now become

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« Reply #26118 on: September 19, 2020, 09:51:34 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/caity-lotz-from-arrowverse-shows-makes-statement-saying-to-love-trump-supporters-voters.290174/

look at this hatemongering bitch telling people to see past their differences and love each other.

#getcancelled cunt

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« Reply #26120 on: September 19, 2020, 12:11:23 PM »
I guess my script idea for an homage to '90s road trip comedies where a group of friends drive across the country to assassinate a conservative Supreme Court Justice was ahead of its time
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« Reply #26124 on: September 19, 2020, 01:17:01 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/hogwarts-legacy-announced-avalanche-coming-2021-up-coming-to-ps4-ps5-pc-and-xbox-family.287813/page-24#post-45846518
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Okay, so, I am a transwoman. I've been a Harry Potter fan since I was old enough to pick up and read a Harry Potter book. More than any other fandom, this is the one I was raised on. I am hurt and enraged by JK Rowling's behavior, and I will never have the same joy and interest in the series I once did. I'm not rushing out to buy the Lego Diagon Alley that I would have flipped for years ago. The Lego Hogwarts and Hogwarts Express and Knight Bus in my closet will likely never be displayed, despite how much Hogwarts cost me. When I was in Universal Studios Hollywood this past Winter, yea, I checked out the Wizarding World because I was already in the park, but I didn't buy any merchandise, and I didn't really enjoy it too much. I'm almost certainly not going to wear Ravenclaw clothes or accessories ever again. This has effected me deeply on an emotion level, and I feel, above all, betrayed. And the more Rowling outs herself, the more I realize how Harry Potter isn't Feminist at all, how the goblins are pretty anti-Semetic, how, as a progressive American, I chould have been offended by house elves much sooner, and so forth.

That said, JK Rowling doesn't get to take a massive part of my childhood away by being such a bitch. She does not, in fact, own this story she gave the world. She doesn't own my relationship to Harry Potter, and I'm not going to systematically destroy all of my childhood joy. She doesn't get to take away that joy of being 25, able to afford to travel abroad for the first time ever, and getting my picture taken at Platform 9 3/4s on a chilly London winter's day. Which is to say, I'm not going to throw my books or DVDs out. I'm not going to display or wear merch again, I'm not going to buy merch again, and I'll never respect JK Rowling again, but I'm not going to never read the series again, or never watch the movies again. This series is my childhood, and she doesn't get to take that away from me. I'll never love it the way I once did, or openly display that love, but I'll never fully abandon it.

Which leads me to this game. Honestly? Probably buying it whenever I get my hands on a PS5. Yea, fuck JK Rowling. She didn't write this game, though. I believe WB Games when they say she wasn't involved. And when I say she doesn't get to take the Potterverse away from me, well, I'd love to see someone else's take on the world, rather than her's. And given Rowling's notable distaste of video games, I can believe she just wasn't interested in being involved. Will she financially benefit from my purchase? In a tiny way, yes, but she's so fuck-you rich it doesn't matter. Plus, no ethical consumption under Capitalism. And, yea, I feel a bit bad saying that, but I'm a Japanese RPG fan. Persona 5 is my favorite game ever, and it's directly homophobic and misogynistic. Another favorite is Valkyria Chronicles, and, well, Valkyria Chronicles 4 went off a misogynistic deep end (and Valkyria Chronicles 1 did not at all handle anti-Semitism well). As a Japanese pop culture fan, I'm unfortunately used to finding something offensive and enjoying it at the same time I'm upset. That's going to be my relationship to this game. I've spent a good, what, 20 years waiting for this game? I'm not going to walk away from it now just because some close-minded TERF bitch doesn't want me in her women's spaces. Rowling can fuck off, and I'll play the game I want to play.

"I'm trans. I won't display my Harry Potter Legos, and I didn't enjoy walking through the Wizarding World at Universal. I realize she is an anti-semite TERF.

But hey I really want to play this Vidya game based on her work."

How difficult is it to not play a video game? I will never understand the people obsessed with this shit. My only experience with HP was watching Wizard People, Dear Reader one night while on mushrooms like 15 years ago. Basic bitch fantasy trash.
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« Reply #26125 on: September 19, 2020, 01:26:35 PM »
how are the goblins anti-semitic
 :mindblown

unless they're in the vault saying "oy vey another mashugana goyim wizard wants their money" it just happens to be some goblin bankers

what if it's a negative statement on bankers and those who control the wealth in general?  what if trump is one of those goblins

now all portrayals of bankers in fiction need to be 100% positive because otherwise we're meant to mentally link bankers <-> jewish people?

"in your book about animal people why did you make the bankers CROWS, huh??  are you saying jewish people got big beaks?"
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« Reply #26126 on: September 19, 2020, 01:31:31 PM »
That post  :lol

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She does not, in fact, own this story she gave the world.


Um...?

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She doesn't own my relationship to Harry Potter, and I'm not going to systematically destroy all of my childhood joy. She doesn't get to take away that joy of being 25, able to afford to travel abroad for the first time ever, and getting my picture taken at Platform 9 3/4s on a chilly London winter's day. Which is to say, I'm not going to throw my books or DVDs out. I'm not going to display or wear merch again, I'm not going to buy merch again, and I'll never respect JK Rowling again, but I'm not going to never read the series again, or never watch the movies again. This series is my childhood, and she doesn't get to take that away from me. I'll never love it the way I once did, or openly display that love, but I'll never fully abandon it.

Which leads me to this game. Honestly? Probably buying it whenever I get my hands on a PS5.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #26127 on: September 19, 2020, 01:46:52 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs-ot3-her-ass-is-part-of-her-character.275780/page-26#post-45753269
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I don't know of a lot of JRPG companies honestly that would have commited to as women driven a trilogy as the 13 trilogy was. Not without going down really gross objectification paths.

about that...

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"According to the design team, while we cannot give specific numbers [for Lightning's bust, hip and waist sizes], the breast size has actually changed. In Final Fantasy XIII she had a C cup, now she has a D." - Toriyama


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Lightning Returns is fun, but who do I have to kill for a pair of pants?


Well. Feeling pretty good about not playing through all those games in the end.

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« Reply #26131 on: September 19, 2020, 02:19:17 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/was-lola-bunny-the-awakening-of-the-furries.290105/page-4#post-45996722
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This is literally just a squirrel, what the hell

Technically one of them is an underage boy magically transformed, then seduced by an actual squirrel.

Yeah.

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This didn't turn me into a furry but it's probably partially responsible for my attraction to sexually aggressive women. Furry-wise, Gadget was a bigger influence than Lola tbh. My slightly confused ass also though tbe biker mice from mars were kinda hot lmao.

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That...is literally just a lioness.
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« Reply #26132 on: September 19, 2020, 02:23:37 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/was-lola-bunny-the-awakening-of-the-furries.290105/page-4#post-46002569
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I usually stay out of furry threads on Era because the community here seems more hostile to furries than not. Will say though, I think my awareness of being a furry (not the culture until later, but the interests at least) came sooner than most other revelations about myself.

Like, I knew I was Really Into Anthro Content before I knew I was queer, liberal/leftist, or a witch. Pre-adolescent Viriditas would have named things like Secret of NIMH, Watership Down, The Last Unicorn, The Firebringer Trilogy, TMNT, Animaniacs, Animorphs, Bugs Bunny, Rescue Rangers, Ecco the Dolphin, etc as her favorite media. I still consider Watership Down and The Last Unicorn to be among my top 3 favorite books.

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Era: HALF NEKKID WIMMENZ IN MAH VIDEO GAMES?!?! :punch  :maf
Also Era: Naked furries :drool
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« Reply #26133 on: September 19, 2020, 02:26:24 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/was-lola-bunny-the-awakening-of-the-furries.290105/page-4#post-46008122
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This whole furry thing isn't really healthy
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How so?
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Dunno. Sexualisation of animal characters is weird...
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So it's not healthy because you think it's "weird."


Not judgmental at all.
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Hey, to each their own tastes, I guess, don't be so defensive.
I'm probably too old for this thing.
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It's fine to not get it or enjoy it, that's fine, plenty if aspects of it I don't have interest in.

It's calling it "not healthy" I take issue with.

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« Reply #26134 on: September 19, 2020, 02:31:28 PM »
I remember them being quite offended by the idea that Furries are all about sex and yet the discussion treats it like a sexual awakening...

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« Reply #26135 on: September 19, 2020, 02:32:03 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/was-lola-bunny-the-awakening-of-the-furries.290105/page-3#post-45990107
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Humanity's fascination with anthropomorphisation goes back... well pretty much as long as we've had recorded history.

When it comes to anthropomorphic animals specifically, well, same. The gods of ancient Egypt being probably the best known examples from antiquity:

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The more modern conceptualisation of a "Furry" fandom goes back to at least the 70s, starting in underground comics like "Omaha":

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Of course big blockbuster releases causes little furry interest "spikes" or "awakenings", but they didn't start the fire. It was always burning since the world's been turning.

Personally speaking, it was Robin Hood:

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« Reply #26136 on: September 19, 2020, 02:35:59 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/was-lola-bunny-the-awakening-of-the-furries.290105/page-2#post-45970523
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Fish April from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

who could resist her
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lola is for normies, real 90s furries were into this
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« Reply #26137 on: September 19, 2020, 02:38:14 PM »
If it's good enough for a real Murican like Sheriff Joe, it's good enough for me. :salute
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« Reply #26141 on: September 19, 2020, 04:18:36 PM »
I remember them being quite offended by the idea that Furries are all about sex and yet the discussion treats it like a sexual awakening...

i'd like to hear from the bires no1 furry on this matter :doge
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« Reply #26143 on: September 19, 2020, 06:39:03 PM »
I remember them being quite offended by the idea that Furries are all about sex and yet the discussion treats it like a sexual awakening...

i'd like to hear from the bires no1 furry on this matter :doge

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« Reply #26144 on: September 19, 2020, 09:00:17 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-it-normal-not-to-fall-in-love-or-be-interested-in-the-opposite-sex-anymore.290543/


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« Reply #26146 on: September 20, 2020, 12:05:41 AM »
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« Reply #26147 on: September 20, 2020, 12:14:31 AM »
Congrats FUME5 on setting a NEW RECORD!!!

32 DAYS and the ban is already over but still duration pending!

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« Reply #26148 on: September 20, 2020, 01:19:05 AM »
User Banned (2 Weeks): Continued platform warring after receiving a prior warning; inflammatory points of comparison around wealth, privilege and poverty

Probably because they are two different situations. Inb4 some people report me for console warring and refusing to understand what the problem is, let me explain:

The PlayStation platform is a more privileged platform. It has the best third-party support even if the games don't sell well on it. By that, I mean the tons of niche Japanese games that are going in decline after the loss of handheld platforms. Also stuff like the Doraemon port or Yokai Watch 4 port had abysmal sales on the PS4. Yet, this will never stop companies from supporting it even if they lose money on it. PlayStation fans truly have it good.

So what's the problem? The problem is that Sony moneyhats exclusives DESPITE being this privileged. They already had such a strong platform. Many Japanese third-parties REFUSE to support Xbox (for obvious reasons) and Switch (despite being market leader in Japan) already. Even so, Sony still wants to completely shut down competition by buying more exclusives. That in itself is anti-competitive. Do you understand?

Nintendo platforms, on the other hand, don't have such luxury support. Nintendo can have the strongest platform, and third parties would skip it (see Gamecube vs PS2). Nintendo can have the best selling platform, and third parties would skip it. Hence, when Nintendo goes out of their way to moneyhat exclusives, it is of a competitive nature. They're getting games they might otherwise not get OR to make up for games skipping out on the platform. This balances the market and makes it healthier.

The problem with all the PlayStation fans being upset here is that you guys don't accept that the context are different. From your point of view, it's hypocrisy, but is it? Is it truly console warring and devoid of reasoning? The easiest way to evaluate this is to substitute the context into another similar situation. Let's compare the a rich guy who has everything to a working class citizen. The two are both hoarding goods, but they do it under different circumstances. The rich guy already has enough resources, but they simply want to buy more to keep others from having it. The working class citizen isn't as privileged and is hoarding goods to save up for bad times. Who would you support more? Is it not obvious?

You can say that both Nintendo and Sony are bad, but one's definitely worse. It's not console warring to point out that one platform is clearly more privileged and has more support. The less privileged platform will have compete using the same practice since the dominant one is being extremely aggressive. It is therefore, unreasonable to accuse both of being equally bad when one is doing it to compete and the other is doing it to prevent competition. I don't understand how that is so hard to get. You can say that this is shitty, but you must accept that it's a consequence of Sony's actions. You must, also, cannot deny that it is logically wrong to condemn Nintendo of being more ethically wrong than Sony when the latter is the main driving force and the one with the most privilege on the market. This is a reality you can't deny and calling it console warring because you guys can't dispute this is stupid. It just means you don't want to engage in a discussion where you might be wrong so you just want to shut it down using authority.

tl;dr I can already predict some will dismiss this as some copypasta and satire because they can't and don't want to address the valid points that have been brought up. It's easier to invalidate than engage after all. Be upset about the news if you want, but if someone wants to tell you that your anger is misdirected and the ethical problems you guys brought up are misplaced, then they have all the rights to do so. Just because you're upset doesn't mean anyone who denies your justification for feeling that way are wrong/bad/or console warring. Accept that. An undersupported platform getting exclusives > the most supported platform getting exclusives. I'll say it how many times you need to hear it. The latter is more unnecessary than the former. If the former is being more widely accepted, then there is a reason for that. You try to understand things by analyzing the norms and values that created such a different standard for the two platforms in the first place. Dismissing is NOT understanding.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #26149 on: September 20, 2020, 01:43:16 AM »
User Banned (2 Weeks): Continued platform warring after receiving a prior warning; inflammatory points of comparison around wealth, privilege and poverty

Probably because they are two different situations. Inb4 some people report me for console warring and refusing to understand what the problem is, let me explain:

The PlayStation platform is a more privileged platform. It has the best third-party support even if the games don't sell well on it. By that, I mean the tons of niche Japanese games that are going in decline after the loss of handheld platforms. Also stuff like the Doraemon port or Yokai Watch 4 port had abysmal sales on the PS4. Yet, this will never stop companies from supporting it even if they lose money on it. PlayStation fans truly have it good.

So what's the problem? The problem is that Sony moneyhats exclusives DESPITE being this privileged. They already had such a strong platform. Many Japanese third-parties REFUSE to support Xbox (for obvious reasons) and Switch (despite being market leader in Japan) already. Even so, Sony still wants to completely shut down competition by buying more exclusives. That in itself is anti-competitive. Do you understand?

Nintendo platforms, on the other hand, don't have such luxury support. Nintendo can have the strongest platform, and third parties would skip it (see Gamecube vs PS2). Nintendo can have the best selling platform, and third parties would skip it. Hence, when Nintendo goes out of their way to moneyhat exclusives, it is of a competitive nature. They're getting games they might otherwise not get OR to make up for games skipping out on the platform. This balances the market and makes it healthier.

The problem with all the PlayStation fans being upset here is that you guys don't accept that the context are different. From your point of view, it's hypocrisy, but is it? Is it truly console warring and devoid of reasoning? The easiest way to evaluate this is to substitute the context into another similar situation. Let's compare the a rich guy who has everything to a working class citizen. The two are both hoarding goods, but they do it under different circumstances. The rich guy already has enough resources, but they simply want to buy more to keep others from having it. The working class citizen isn't as privileged and is hoarding goods to save up for bad times. Who would you support more? Is it not obvious?

You can say that both Nintendo and Sony are bad, but one's definitely worse. It's not console warring to point out that one platform is clearly more privileged and has more support. The less privileged platform will have compete using the same practice since the dominant one is being extremely aggressive. It is therefore, unreasonable to accuse both of being equally bad when one is doing it to compete and the other is doing it to prevent competition. I don't understand how that is so hard to get. You can say that this is shitty, but you must accept that it's a consequence of Sony's actions. You must, also, cannot deny that it is logically wrong to condemn Nintendo of being more ethically wrong than Sony when the latter is the main driving force and the one with the most privilege on the market. This is a reality you can't deny and calling it console warring because you guys can't dispute this is stupid. It just means you don't want to engage in a discussion where you might be wrong so you just want to shut it down using authority.

tl;dr I can already predict some will dismiss this as some copypasta and satire because they can't and don't want to address the valid points that have been brought up. It's easier to invalidate than engage after all. Be upset about the news if you want, but if someone wants to tell you that your anger is misdirected and the ethical problems you guys brought up are misplaced, then they have all the rights to do so. Just because you're upset doesn't mean anyone who denies your justification for feeling that way are wrong/bad/or console warring. Accept that. An undersupported platform getting exclusives > the most supported platform getting exclusives. I'll say it how many times you need to hear it. The latter is more unnecessary than the former. If the former is being more widely accepted, then there is a reason for that. You try to understand things by analyzing the norms and values that created such a different standard for the two platforms in the first place. Dismissing is NOT understanding.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/disgaea-6-defiance-of-destiny-announced-switch-ps4-switch-exclusive-in-the-west-summer-2021.288578/page-7#post-45854435

User Banned (2 Weeks): Continued platform warring after receiving a prior warning; inflammatory points of comparison around wealth, privilege and poverty

Quote from: Yahabane, post: 45854435, member: 60305
Probably because they are two different situations. Inb4 some people report me for console warring and refusing to understand what the problem is, let me explain:

The PlayStation platform is a more privileged platform. It has the best third-party support even if the games don't sell well on it. By that, I mean the tons of niche Japanese games that are going in decline after the loss of handheld platforms. Also stuff like the Doraemon port or Yokai Watch 4 port had abysmal sales on the PS4. Yet, this will never stop companies from supporting it even if they lose money on it. PlayStation fans truly have it good.

So what's the problem? The problem is that Sony moneyhats exclusives DESPITE being this privileged. They already had such a strong platform. Many Japanese third-parties REFUSE to support Xbox (for obvious reasons) and Switch (despite being market leader in Japan) already. Even so, Sony still wants to completely shut down competition by buying more exclusives. That in itself is anti-competitive. Do you understand?

Nintendo platforms, on the other hand, don't have such luxury support. Nintendo can have the strongest platform, and third parties would skip it (see Gamecube vs PS2). Nintendo can have the best selling platform, and third parties would skip it. Hence, when Nintendo goes out of their way to moneyhat exclusives, it is of a competitive nature. They're getting games they might otherwise not get OR to make up for games skipping out on the platform. This balances the market and makes it healthier.

The problem with all the PlayStation fans being upset here is that you guys don't accept that the context are different. From your point of view, it's hypocrisy, but is it? Is it truly console warring and devoid of reasoning? The easiest way to evaluate this is to substitute the context into another similar situation. Let's compare the a rich guy who has everything to a working class citizen. The two are both hoarding goods, but they do it under different circumstances. The rich guy already has enough resources, but they simply want to buy more to keep others from having it. The working class citizen isn't as privileged and is hoarding goods to save up for bad times. Who would you support more? Is it not obvious?

You can say that both Nintendo and Sony are bad, but one's definitely worse. It's not console warring to point out that one platform is clearly more privileged and has more support. The less privileged platform will have compete using the same practice since the dominant one is being extremely aggressive. It is therefore, unreasonable to accuse both of being equally bad when one is doing it to compete and the other is doing it to prevent competition. I don't understand how that is so hard to get. You can say that this is shitty, but you must accept that it's a consequence of Sony's actions. You must, also, cannot deny that it is logically wrong to condemn Nintendo of being more ethically wrong than Sony when the latter is the main driving force and the one with the most privilege on the market. This is a reality you can't deny and calling it console warring because you guys can't dispute this is stupid. It just means you don't want to engage in a discussion where you might be wrong so you just want to shut it down using authority.

tl;dr I can already predict some will dismiss this as some copypasta and satire because they can't and don't want to address the valid points that have been brought up. It's easier to invalidate than engage after all. Be upset about the news if you want, but if someone wants to tell you that your anger is misdirected and the ethical problems you guys brought up are misplaced, then they have all the rights to do so. Just because you're upset doesn't mean anyone who denies your justification for feeling that way are wrong/bad/or console warring. Accept that. An undersupported platform getting exclusives > the most supported platform getting exclusives. I'll say it how many times you need to hear it. The latter is more unnecessary than the former. If the former is being more widely accepted, then there is a reason for that. You try to understand things by analyzing the norms and values that created such a different standard for the two platforms in the first place. Dismissing is NOT understanding.

Admiral summit now  ::)
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #26150 on: September 20, 2020, 02:05:38 AM »
User Banned (2 Weeks): Continued platform warring after receiving a prior warning; inflammatory points of comparison around wealth, privilege and poverty

Probably because they are two different situations. Inb4 some people report me for console warring and refusing to understand what the problem is, let me explain:

The PlayStation platform is a more privileged platform. It has the best third-party support even if the games don't sell well on it. By that, I mean the tons of niche Japanese games that are going in decline after the loss of handheld platforms. Also stuff like the Doraemon port or Yokai Watch 4 port had abysmal sales on the PS4. Yet, this will never stop companies from supporting it even if they lose money on it. PlayStation fans truly have it good.

So what's the problem? The problem is that Sony moneyhats exclusives DESPITE being this privileged. They already had such a strong platform. Many Japanese third-parties REFUSE to support Xbox (for obvious reasons) and Switch (despite being market leader in Japan) already. Even so, Sony still wants to completely shut down competition by buying more exclusives. That in itself is anti-competitive. Do you understand?

Nintendo platforms, on the other hand, don't have such luxury support. Nintendo can have the strongest platform, and third parties would skip it (see Gamecube vs PS2). Nintendo can have the best selling platform, and third parties would skip it. Hence, when Nintendo goes out of their way to moneyhat exclusives, it is of a competitive nature. They're getting games they might otherwise not get OR to make up for games skipping out on the platform. This balances the market and makes it healthier.

The problem with all the PlayStation fans being upset here is that you guys don't accept that the context are different. From your point of view, it's hypocrisy, but is it? Is it truly console warring and devoid of reasoning? The easiest way to evaluate this is to substitute the context into another similar situation. Let's compare the a rich guy who has everything to a working class citizen. The two are both hoarding goods, but they do it under different circumstances. The rich guy already has enough resources, but they simply want to buy more to keep others from having it. The working class citizen isn't as privileged and is hoarding goods to save up for bad times. Who would you support more? Is it not obvious?

You can say that both Nintendo and Sony are bad, but one's definitely worse. It's not console warring to point out that one platform is clearly more privileged and has more support. The less privileged platform will have compete using the same practice since the dominant one is being extremely aggressive. It is therefore, unreasonable to accuse both of being equally bad when one is doing it to compete and the other is doing it to prevent competition. I don't understand how that is so hard to get. You can say that this is shitty, but you must accept that it's a consequence of Sony's actions. You must, also, cannot deny that it is logically wrong to condemn Nintendo of being more ethically wrong than Sony when the latter is the main driving force and the one with the most privilege on the market. This is a reality you can't deny and calling it console warring because you guys can't dispute this is stupid. It just means you don't want to engage in a discussion where you might be wrong so you just want to shut it down using authority.

tl;dr I can already predict some will dismiss this as some copypasta and satire because they can't and don't want to address the valid points that have been brought up. It's easier to invalidate than engage after all. Be upset about the news if you want, but if someone wants to tell you that your anger is misdirected and the ethical problems you guys brought up are misplaced, then they have all the rights to do so. Just because you're upset doesn't mean anyone who denies your justification for feeling that way are wrong/bad/or console warring. Accept that. An undersupported platform getting exclusives > the most supported platform getting exclusives. I'll say it how many times you need to hear it. The latter is more unnecessary than the former. If the former is being more widely accepted, then there is a reason for that. You try to understand things by analyzing the norms and values that created such a different standard for the two platforms in the first place. Dismissing is NOT understanding.
If i read all this, i want a PSN trophy.


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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #26152 on: September 20, 2020, 05:06:26 AM »
https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1307491919384260609

The Greatest Ad Of All Time
So damn good Joe.

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1.2 mil in an hour. Noice

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aight, that’s good lmao

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This is perfect! Lol

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Probably from his rapid response team.

So good.

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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Oh man, I needed that.

You should share that with OT.

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hot damn

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That is a *chef's kiss* tweet. Social media skills have leveled up
Nearly 15k likes in 5 minutes means it hit home

« Last Edit: September 20, 2020, 05:10:38 AM by VomKriege »
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #26153 on: September 20, 2020, 05:08:00 AM »
:piss :delicious :piss2
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #26154 on: September 20, 2020, 05:16:35 AM »
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Has this asshole literally had three rallies the past two/three days or am I imagining things?
Yeah he’s just going full on regular campaign mode now.

:pika

Anecdotally, the post I shared on Facebook to donate to Greenfield got mostly women my age as likes. Some of them surprised me because I thought they might be Trumpers.

:science
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #26155 on: September 20, 2020, 05:20:48 AM »
Shouldn’t they be celebrating him killing a percentage of his sub human supporters who attend his rallies from the vid, instead of going ‘noooo you can’t campaign to be re-elected it’s not fair’ :trumps
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #26156 on: September 20, 2020, 05:26:34 AM »
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The responses would get Era put on a watchlist.

Speaking of this, I reported this post last night:

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After the shit they pulled with Garland in 2016, every single republican that votes to rush through a justice with less than 2 months to go should be fucking executed in the street

and since it hasn't been actioned yet (personally I think a warning would be fine) I would just like to know if full-blown advocating for political violence and vigilante murder of U.S. Senators is totally cool here.

Like, fuck Republicans. But come on.

:mods
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #26158 on: September 20, 2020, 05:51:48 AM »
America has no culture and the lands were stolen.
Era is slipping
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #26159 on: September 20, 2020, 06:42:17 AM »
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The responses would get Era put on a watchlist.

Speaking of this, I reported this post last night:

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After the shit they pulled with Garland in 2016, every single republican that votes to rush through a justice with less than 2 months to go should be fucking executed in the street

and since it hasn't been actioned yet (personally I think a warning would be fine) I would just like to know if full-blown advocating for political violence and vigilante murder of U.S. Senators is totally cool here.

Like, fuck Republicans. But come on.

:mods

Fucking bigot. Calling for the murder of your political opponents isn’t anywhere near as bad as dismissing the concerns of a 1/4th Japanese weeb regarding the glorification of samurai in video games  :camby