Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

So fucking half assed and the fajs on twitter are eating it up.

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Faj
A word you call somebody who pisses you off or is very annoying. Very similar to -cigarillo- but is more "appropriate" when out in public.

Meant to type folks but i just noticed what it looks like lmao.. editing now.

folx

[bork]

MS bought Zenimax...because they knew that a shitty rinkydink little youtube channel would review their console worse 

MS bases billion dollar decision on the basis of what problematic "oil of ogay" dark1x says

They probably do- he is a Bore alumni.
 

[bork]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/official-microsoft-has-purchased-zenimax-media-bethesda.291365/page-173#post-46301342

XboxEra Twitter teased more news regarding acquisitions yesterday.

https://twitter.com/TheXboxEra/status/1308034396004536321

 

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[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Sony didn't BUY Spider-Man or TAKE IT AWAY from anyone. Marvel literally ASKED SONY to make the game for them. There is a difference, you HAVE to understand that.

The "S" in Sony stands for "Saint". 

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BTW Sony DID buy Insomniac and prevented them from ever releasing their games on other platforms.
Sony did buy Naughty Dog, and prevented them from ever releasing their games on other platforms.
So on and so forth.

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Sony didn't TAKE SPIDERMAN AWAY FROM ANYONE, they just prohibited anyone else from using the - by far - single most popular hero marvel has in that avengers game squeenixdos obviously paid a fuckton of cash for, and obviously wrote the story wanting tom hollands mcu spidey as the main character until they had to cut+replaste with someone broadly similar but with way less popularity and zero MCU cred

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

This sets a very different tone piece than the current thread

 

locked and banned, because the situations are COMPLETELY different, and Sony Ponies have been loyal bethesda fans ever since they were playing RTCW, Morrowind, Doom 3 and Quake 4 on their... oh.

[Yulwei]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/official-microsoft-has-purchased-zenimax-media-bethesda.291365/page-173#post-46301342

XboxEra Twitter teased more news regarding acquisitions yesterday.

https://twitter.com/TheXboxEra/status/1308034396004536321

 

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M$ going for the kill 

[VomKriege]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ms-could-have-acquire-two-more-studios.292253/post-46307783

Astal 
Now that's a name I haven't read in a long time.

[FUME5]

Some of you thinking this is a win for MS is delusional and no nothing of corporate finance , the economic of opportunity cost, rate of return on investment and it's duration. How long do you think the Xbox division will recoup that $7.5 billion that they needs to fork out now and at what rate will that return be? What is the project's Internal Rate of Return and Net Present Value? It might looks like a good acquisition for people that don't know much about corporate finance and MA but this acquisition looks like a marketing move more than anything.

a $7.5 billion marketing move

I guess I no nothing of corporate finance or the economic of opportunity cost.

[benjipwns]

User warned (1-day threadban): personal attacks, repeated and escalating condescension over a series of posts

You are actually making my point for me dude.

Economic systems are not why we are in the hole we're in. Basic human needs, technological advancement and dirty energy are.

Come back to me when you actually understand human development and social history.

the policy major from Iowa who "took a few poli sci classes" does not get to lecture me on who understands social development. You can be mad or think I'm stupid all you want your credibility in this area is worthless and I read more than you.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Oh god this fucking thread resurfaced

Sure the USSR had a lot of shitty parts, but I'm not happy in this system as well. And I live in a wealthy European city. Imagine living in the US.

I refuse to believe this paragraph isn’t satire.

Yeah wage slavery rules

[Cerveza mas fina]

Lol at economics experts coming out of the woodworks to tell ms how to run their multi billion business that they have been running for 40 years now

The salt is real

[VomKriege]

User warned (1-day threadban): personal attacks, repeated and escalating condescension over a series of posts

You are actually making my point for me dude.

Economic systems are not why we are in the hole we're in. Basic human needs, technological advancement and dirty energy are.

Come back to me when you actually understand human development and social history.

the policy major from Iowa who "took a few poli sci classes" does not get to lecture me on who understands social development. You can be mad or think I'm stupid all you want your credibility in this area is worthless and I read more than you.

Try 4 year degree from U of I.

[Joe Molotov]

About time these polisci bitches got knocked down a few pegs.

[VomKriege]

An union member with no university education goes farther than a bunch of self proclaimed polisci experts on a vidya board.
 

[Don Rumata]

Sure, getting dragged off into the night by the secret police sucks, but having to work to afford increasingly pricier videogames isn't all that better.

[Snoopycat_]

24 hrs later and they're still at the denial stage

Personally I expect a balanced approach. Everything will be gamepass day 1.
Elder scrolls and starfield will be multiplat ( because Elder scrolls is huge and Starfield may have a PS5 agreement already)
Fall out, Doom and wolfenstein will have Huge xbox advantages in some way, maybe timed or fully exclusive.
Smaller games will be exclusive.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Sure, getting dragged off into the night by the secret police sucks, but having to work to afford increasingly pricier videogames isn't all that better.

TRUE FACT:
There would be no Bethesda #betrayalton under Papa Stalin

[VomKriege]

They are taking franchises with games spanning a decade or so on all platforms and just removing future entries just like that from PS and Nintendo.

 

[VomKriege]

The pearl clutching is really odd. This deal is bad for people who want to buy PlayStations. It's not "hurting gamers as a whole".

It's bad or neutral for everyone except the 15m game pass subs.

Bad for 100m PS owners
Good for 15m gamepass
Neutral for 35m xbox users without gamepass.
And probably bad for the large and growing switch userbase.

It's almost as if Microsoft was trying to convince people it would be better for them as players to buy their devices and services.
 

[Joe Molotov]

They are taking franchises with games spanning a decade or so on all platforms and just removing future entries just like that from PS and Nintendo.

 

Wow, that's never happened before!

[SmokyDave]

Eh, I'm edging, but I could really use one more meaty acquisition to top me off. FromSoftware maybe?

Come on MS, this could be the funniest few days on era until the election. Get it done.

[Don Rumata]

Eh, I'm edging, but I could really use one more meaty acquisition to top me off. FromSoftware maybe?

Come on MS, this could be the funniest few days on era until the election. Get it done.

That would lead to literal suicides. 

[remy]

sony clutches onto demon's souls with a crappy remake when MS moneyhats elden ring and bloodborne 2

[Rahxephon91]

I guess MS is just going to buy everything and brute force thier shit console down people. I guess that's one way to finally have an actual library worth a damn, just buy everything.

[SmokyDave]

I guess MS is just going to buy everything and brute force thier shit console down people. I guess that's one way to finally have an actual library worth a damn, just buy everything.

C'mon man, at least provide a link!

[Pissy F Benny]

MS buying Bethesda is a rare corporate take over that will benefit the customer

[thisismyusername]

I guess MS is just going to buy everything and brute force thier shit console down people. I guess that's one way to finally have an actual library worth a damn, just buy everything.

All the stuff they've bought is multiplatform. Just this time around, they're not allowing Sony to have some of the ports until a year or so later.

[nudemacusers]

I guess MS is just going to buy everything and brute force thier shit console down people. I guess that's one way to finally have an actual library worth a damn, just buy everything.

Unlike Sony betraying Nintendo with the ps1 🤔

[Rahxephon91]

Yeah maybe they will, maybe they won’t and I am a little peeved.

I loved the 360 in its early days because Microsoft was doing amazing things. Gears was an exciting ip. Lost Odyssey was fucking fantastic. They were creating and funding lots of neat stuff. The 360 was amazing to own for those first few years. Since then it’s just been mediocre stuff and I guess now there answer is just but everything. How is that as exciting as them building their own first party with their own unique ips? I mean I don’t like Bethesda games so it’s no loss to me. But I wanted to see MS create its own stuff, just not take over stuff that would have come regardless of MS.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

No apologies

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ellen-issues-on-air-apology.291659/

[Rahxephon91]

I guess MS is just going to buy everything and brute force thier shit console down people. I guess that's one way to finally have an actual library worth a damn, just buy everything.

Yeah, I'd be salty too if I preordered a PS5.

I mean I did'nt, but why would I be? PS5 will have actual games I want to play. Unlike Xbox..

Nah, I'm salty if anything because I've had an Xbox One and a One X. Consoles MS did jack shit with.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Maybe MS would have been looking to make a multi-billion dollar acquisition to kick the gen off anyway, and maybe they wouldn't, but let's just say that decision was probably a lot easier to make after Sony have been running around throwing cockblock moneyhats at games to only release on PS5 first for a year

[Clockwork5]

I doubt it’s gonna be profitable. It’s the same Bethesda that made Fallout 76 and Elder Scrolls isn’t making them $7.5 billion. Cutting out brick and mortar gets maybe $20, and they get a third of that so that’s $6 more per sale of a 60 game. How many more games will they have to sell to just make back that $7.5 billion? They have to explain why they are so far in the red to investors, and usually r&d cost is added to this fiscal year, too. That would be one seriously rough conference call and could lose them more investors. They aren’t trying to break even, they are trying to make money.

[Rahxephon91]

Yeah maybe they will, maybe they won’t and I am a little peeved.

I loved the 360 in its early days because Microsoft was doing amazing things. Gears was an exciting ip. Lost Odyssey was fucking fantastic. They were creating and funding lots of neat stuff. The 360 was amazing to own for those first few years. Since then it’s just been mediocre stuff and I guess now there answer is just but everything. How is that as exciting as them building their own first party with their own unique ips? I mean I don’t like Bethesda games so it’s no loss to me. But I wanted to see MS create its own stuff, just not take over stuff that would have come regardless of MS.

You know, besides Bethesda, pretty much every company they acquired is working on a new IP, right? Otherwise, those companies are finishing projects that were in place before the acquisition.

MS knows it in its best interest to create new IP. Hence, buying 20 odd studios.

343 is making another Halo. As a Halo factory they've made pretty much the worst entries in the series.

Compulsion Games is probably making a new ip. But from the makers of We Happy Few and Contrast sure dosen't get me hard.

Double Fine Productions is making another Psychonauts and seeing as how it's taken forever to make the, who knows if they can even get out another game before MS closes them because Psychounauts 2 bombed. Exciting.

Ninja Theory is making Hellblade 2. If I wanted shitty God of War...I'd just kill myself because I don't want to play another shit game from this studio.

Playground Games is making another Fable. Ok..Probably another Forza Horizon after that.

Rare is making EVerwild a new ip. Don't know what the fuck that is though.

The Coalition is probably making another Gears and after how medicore and tired 4 and 5 were should anyone be excited?

The Initiative is maybe making Perfect Dark and yeah this actually does excite me.

Turn 10 Studios is Forza studios so..

Undead Labs is making another Sate of Decay and seeing how State of Decay 2 was a pretty mediocre sequel that did'nt really do much to expand on a good idea, I'm pretty captious.

World’s Edge was created to be an Age of Empires factory so just like the other factory studios this is what they are doing.

And Bethesda is doing what Bethesda was doing before they were bought.

[Rahxephon91]

I mean the only one here who has actually pre-ordered a system is you.

I'd still like to know what these amazing MS games are that made you buy the system. These amazing ips that MS has.

[Don Rumata]

Yeah maybe they will, maybe they won’t and I am a little peeved.

I loved the 360 in its early days because Microsoft was doing amazing things. Gears was an exciting ip. Lost Odyssey was fucking fantastic. They were creating and funding lots of neat stuff. The 360 was amazing to own for those first few years. Since then it’s just been mediocre stuff and I guess now there answer is just but everything. How is that as exciting as them building their own first party with their own unique ips? I mean I don’t like Bethesda games so it’s no loss to me. But I wanted to see MS create its own stuff, just not take over stuff that would have come regardless of MS.

They're doing nothing different from Sony.
Their first party studios are already working on plenty of new IPs (avowed, ever wild, sea of thieves, grounded, Bleeding edge, state of decay, etc) plus, much like Sony buying Insomniac, they also bought a studio... only they have bigger pockets, so they went for a whole publisher instead.   

Sony renting a room, while MS buys the whole building.

[Rahxephon91]

Oh yeah Bleeding Edge. I nearly forgot that game. How many people are playing it right now in the year of release? 5?

Also Insomniac wasn't involved with making plenty of multiplatform games, unlike Bethesda.

I mean the only one here who has actually pre-ordered a system is you.

I'd still like to know what these amazing MS games are that made you buy the system.

I mean, there were at least a handful of people in the series x thread who got one, but ok?

Anyways, your screes were funny for a while, but I'm bored of you. So... back on ignore!

ok. Couldn't come up with anything. Gotcha.

What I meant is between you and me, you're the one who has a system pre-ordererd and seems to get triggered anytime I've said the xbox sucks or that I think PS is better, so I don't know why you're allowed to be so smug.

Using ignore. How Pathetic.

[Don Rumata]

Yeah maybe they will, maybe they won’t and I am a little peeved.

I loved the 360 in its early days because Microsoft was doing amazing things. Gears was an exciting ip. Lost Odyssey was fucking fantastic. They were creating and funding lots of neat stuff. The 360 was amazing to own for those first few years. Since then it’s just been mediocre stuff and I guess now there answer is just but everything. How is that as exciting as them building their own first party with their own unique ips? I mean I don’t like Bethesda games so it’s no loss to me. But I wanted to see MS create its own stuff, just not take over stuff that would have come regardless of MS.

You know, besides Bethesda, pretty much every company they acquired is working on a new IP, right? Otherwise, those companies are finishing projects that were in place before the acquisition.

MS knows it in its best interest to create new IP. Hence, buying 20 odd studios.

343 is making another Halo. As a Halo factory they've made pretty much the worst entries in the series.

Compulsion Games is probably making a new ip. But from the makers of We Happy Few and Contrast sure dosen't get me hard.

Double Fine Productions is making another Psychonauts and seeing as how it's taken forever to make the, who knows if they can even get out another game before MS closes them because Psychounauts 2 bombed. Exciting.

Ninja Theory is making Hellblade 2. If I wanted shitty God of War...I'd just kill myself because I don't want to play another shit game from this studio.

Playground Games is making another Fable. Ok..Probably another Forza Horizon after that.

Rare is making EVerwild a new ip. Don't know what the fuck that is though.

The Coalition is probably making another Gears and after how medicore and tired 4 and 5 were should anyone be excited?

The Initiative is maybe making Perfect Dark and yeah this actually does excite me.

Turn 10 Studios is Forza studios so..

Undead Labs is making another Sate of Decay and seeing how State of Decay 2 was a pretty mediocre sequel that did'nt really do much to expand on a good idea, I'm pretty captious.

World’s Edge was created to be an Age of Empires factory so just like the other factory studios this is what they are doing.

And Bethesda is doing what Bethesda was doing before they were bought.

Yes, unreleased games may be bad.
This isn't news.

You think Sony's first party aren't working on sequels? Is Forbidden West a new IP? Is GoW Ragnarock? You think Uncharted 5 ain't coming? or Spiderman 2? Is Demon's Souls REMAKE a new IP? Ratchet and Clank is a new IP? Gran Turismo 7? New IP?

I mean, what are we talking about, here? We all know Sony has a stronger first party roster, that's the whole point of these acquisitions. 

[jorma]

 

[Rahxephon91]

I never said new ips, I said unique ips. Ips that are unique to the platform. Bethesda's stuff wan't just on the xbox before and would still exist regardless of the xbox.

Perfect Dark is something I'd want to see return and would buy an xbox for and would only exists because of the xbox. I even enjoyed Zero back in the day.

[Don Rumata]

I never said new ips, I said unique ips. Ips that are unique to the platform. Bethesda's stuff wan't just on the xbox before and would still exist regardless of the xbox.

Perfect Dark is something I'd want to see return and would buy an xbox for and would only exists because of the xbox. I even enjoyed Zero back in the day.

Can you explain to me, after all the games we've listed, how those don't factor in them "building their own first party with their own unique ips"? Leaving aside your subjective interest in them.

[HaughtyFrank]

Honestly I don't really care for the Bethesda acquisition, at some point I'll have both consoles anyway, but I like that it keeps Sony more on their toes. Maybe they'll rethink plans like asking for extra money to upgrade the PS4 version of spiderman.

[Rahxephon91]

Fine, I guess they did build thier own first party. I just think it's garbage and I hope the xbox dies.

[Don Rumata]

Fine, I guess they did build thier own first party. I just think it's garbage and I hope the xbox dies.

See? Doesn't it feel better to let it all out? 

[Boredfrom]

I dunno why people here are celebrating Xbox buying Bethesda given their track record, but hey. 

Bethesda, for all its faults, was better as an indepedient company.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Oh, JKR bought a T-shirt.

[Uncle]

I doubt it’s gonna be profitable. It’s the same Bethesda that made Fallout 76 and Elder Scrolls isn’t making them $7.5 billion. Cutting out brick and mortar gets maybe $20, and they get a third of that so that’s $6 more per sale of a 60 game. How many more games will they have to sell to just make back that $7.5 billion? They have to explain why they are so far in the red to investors, and usually r&d cost is added to this fiscal year, too. That would be one seriously rough conference call and could lose them more investors. They aren’t trying to break even, they are trying to make money.

MS only has to sell 375 million more copies of skyrim at a $20 profit to break even, that's child's play

[nudemacusers]

What kind of monster posts walls of texts in the shit thread? Leave that stuff to pogijones

[Boredfrom]

You know, besides Bethesda, pretty much every company they acquired is working on a new IP, right? Otherwise, those companies are finishing projects that were in place before the acquisition.

MS knows it in its best interest to create new IP. Hence, buying 20 odd studios.

Meanwhile, some of the old IPs are mismanaged to an extreme end.

[Uncle]

microsoft just got done making their original ip wasteland 3 

[thetylerrob]

I'm enjoying the unironic console warring, please continue.

You know, besides Bethesda, pretty much every company they acquired is working on a new IP, right? Otherwise, those companies are finishing projects that were in place before the acquisition.

MS knows it in its best interest to create new IP. Hence, buying 20 odd studios.

 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tom-cruise-is-officially-going-into-space-in-2021-for-a-movie.292355/

God damn these people are insufferable.

[Rahxephon91]

I don't know why I care. Not like I won't buy an xbox the moment there's an exclusive I want to play. I just kind of doubt with thier current trajectory there will be.

You can call it console waring now, but that's usually what I've done. I got a Xbox for Halo 2. A 360 because Dead or Alive 4 and things like Halo 3 and Lost Odyssey were coming. A One because of Quantum Break. A One X..well I don't know what I was thinking beyond the tech sounded good. But I guess I feel burned by the One X and I don't see anything real promising right now. Purchases like Bethesda aren't the move I'd personally want.

[mormapope]

Microsoft could make an Xbox that cures cancer, but people would still ask about Scalebound and bitch about how bad they did this generation.

I hope they buy every Japanese studio. Sony's exclusives will really shine when they're the only turdalers left on the console.

[Boredfrom]

Microsoft could make an Xbox that cures cancer, but people would still ask about Scalebound and bitch about how bad they did this generation.

I mean, they were truly terrible until recent years. And some stuff seems to be beyond help quality wise, like the Halo franchise.

[Rahxephon91]

Go ahead, buy every Japanese developer. Save Platinum from 720p hell. Make Square make console games only. Use those Konami ips. I don't care. If you can't make your own, might as well buy everything. I'd happily buy an xbox.

I hope they buy every Japanese studio. Sony's exclusives will really shine when they're the only turdalers left on the console.

Sure I guess, but I mean you gotta be honest here, MS has been pretty shit on the first party front for a long time. You really think stuff like State of Decay, Recore, and so one would be noteworthy if MS was super strong? I doubt it. And they've run Halo and Gears into the ground. I get it, Gamepass is great. But like I remember how awesome the 360 was. Great third party and first party offerings. And I guess MS first party will be plentiful again because they gave up and are just going to buy everything so it's a win I guess. So yeah please buy Platinum. Hell buy Sega, probably get more use out of thier ips at this point. Gamepass will be really worth it to me when they start having plentiful single player games day 1.  Which honestly, for a while I thought would be the use of gamepass. I thought with gamepass we'd see MS create lots of content to keep it supported. I would be like netflix, where every month there's a big new show or movie to watch and be done with it in time for the next month's offerings.

[Straight Edge]

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[mormapope]

It's a lot more simple. Xbox 360 was favorable for many people because Sony shit the bed so bad and hurt their brand. Microsoft almost killed Xbox as a brand this gen, and the PS4 was favorable from the get go.

Xbox has been building itself back up, Sony has a lot of momentum from this gen. Microsoft has money, Sony has Momentum.

The end.

[Rahxephon91]

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Best? It's the worst part.

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Also thank god, this is like the first one where the room dosen't look like a pigsty.

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[Cerveza mas fina]

Imho Gamepass is the best innovation in gaming since online play in the 90s so I really want MS to take it to the next level this gen.

I think this delivery method will change the way games are made and consumed, just like online did.