Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread

[Pwnz]

So I beat the game and the side quests.

Really the only trans person in the game is a side character named Claire. She looks like a normal, nearly middle aged woman. She casually mentions a gender transition in a quest as matter of factly and there's a trans flag on her dead husband's car.

The criticism I've seen otherwise is the mix it up ad which is about mixing drinks and has a trans woman on the ad. If this were the only raunchy ad it would be out of place, but I guess there's nothing unusual about the orgasmic drink, a dude fucking a woman missionary with legs up about lasting a long time, snakes going into wide open asses, some dude being on top and an ass ramming into his face, there's also gay ads.

They're just looking to be insulted. Fuck em.

[Don Rumata]

https://twitter.com/Halalcoholism/status/1338031524256485377

Holy shit, bitching about Frida Kahlo. I have seen everything.

Someone could probably write an interesting paper about the dopamine kick people apparently get from "canceling" folks.

Been happenin' in schools all over the world since forever.
Just an elaborate form of forming cliques and bullying.

I mean, I can see her point if it was not that cultural appropriation was essentially a encouraged by the artistiq clique and the government.

Mexican culture has been a exercise of cultural appropriation since the beginning.

I'm talking about the rush you get with joining an internet mob to "cancel" someone.

[Pwnz]

I also don't understand the frustration at hispanic people in the game mixing in spanglish. My wife is hispanic, Tejanos side of the family does that some, her cousins in Brownsville constantly. They alternative languages there so much.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/a-mom-in-mexico-hunts-down-her-daughters-killers-challenges-cartel-this-is-her-story-no-really-this-is-real-nyt.343771/page-2#post-54009319

The framing of this OP does not accurately represent the intended purpose of the source, nor does it accurately do the victims' stories justice. We will be locking it until a discussion can happen regarding the framing and message. As it is currently late in the evening (or early in the morning), the appropriate staff may not have time to look at it immediately. Review of this thread will likely not happen for at least a few hours

Can these babies discuss anything? 

[Tektonic]

CDPR issues "apology" for issues with Cyberpunk 2077; no mention of transphobic issues pointed out by multiple media outlets
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cdpr-issues-apology-for-issues-with-cyberpunk-2077-no-mention-of-transphobic-issues-pointed-out-by-multiple-media-outlets.344047/

insert "they can't keep getting away with this" gif here

This is a thread about their "apology," the lying within it and the purposeful exclusion of the transphobia that has been pointed out by media outlets.

It needs its own spotlight because of those issues, as I explained in the OP.

Again: this is not a hype thread. It is something that deserves a spotlight because it it "new news" that includes the company lying about their response while continuing to ignore the transphobic issues within the game and the fact that critics have been given death threats.

It shouldn't be ignored. It needs to be pointed out and discussed.

There is a difference between a thread celebrating the game's sales and a thread about the company's first public response to the game's issues that a) includes lies and b) ignores the transphobic issues and harassment completely.

They are not the same thing. And it is strange that you're more passionate about this than the actual issues with the game.

If that bothers you for some incredibly strange reason, report the thread and explain why it doesn't deserve to have a spotlight on it. I won't be replying to you again on this subject

I agree. I think the mods need to reiterate the policy on this game. I thought it was being contained to 2 threads so that a transphobic game wasn't given a platform bigger than was required. A stickied thread to discuss the issues and an OT so those who want to play the game have a safe space to discuss it knowing the issues won't be ignored

It seems like this could be discussed in either of the two permitted Cyperpunk threads (though I think there are more of them now anyway)

If there are people who come to Era and don't want to see discussion of this game because of it's issues, well tough luck I guess as there are now loads of Cyberpunk threads

Is there a benefit to anyone by taking this approach? Seems like those who want to discuss the game pretty much get what they want, and those who don't want to see it everywhere just have to deal with it

[Don Rumata]

"Bitch Eating Crackers" syndrome, is reaching nuclear fusion levels of intensity. 

[benjipwns]

CDPR is a right wing enterprise (redundant, I know), they only care about the monies. If their duct-taped PoS game (another!) gives them money, you can be sure as hell they won’t change a thing and remain a hate speech loudspeaker.

They court these people.

They lovingly fostered that kind of fanbase, starting years ago, through their social media

When you pander to the “gamers rise up, anti sjw” crowd, you’re going to inevitably end up with situations like this.

Their fanbase was definitely molded to be more like a cult.

Most companies don't foster and boost up those fans. CDPR has actively attracted and advertised to these people with bigoted marketing.

[VomKriege]

(redundant, I know)

[Don Rumata]

Like when they went to the pride parade, and made donations to LGBT communities, although ofc. those were empty gestures, so i'm not sure how you can *not* foster such fanbases.

Naughty Dogs are as vocal as it gets about this stuff, and their fanbase still attacks journalists routinely, so...

[Don Rumata]

The impotent rage in that thread fills me with more energy than a 10 hours sleep. 

[BIONIC]

Like when they went to the pride parade, and made donations to LGBT communities, although ofc. those were empty gestures, so i'm not sure how you can *not* foster such fanbases.

Naughty Dogs are as vocal as it gets about this stuff, and their fanbase still attacks journalists routinely, so...

Naughty Dog fans are on the right side of herstory, you shitlord chud 

[benjipwns]

Starting it with "Dear Gamers" tells me everything I need to know about this "apology".

[paprikastaude]

Starting it with "Dear Gamers" tells me everything I need to know about this "apology".

Might as well start with "Heil Volksgenossen".

[Don Rumata]

Starting it with "Dear Gamers" tells me everything I need to know about this "apology".

Might as well start with "Heil Volksgenossen".

Funfact: At the entrance of CDPR's Warsaw offices, reads the sign: "work will set you free".
Likely referring to their crunch culture.

[Tektonic]

Yep.

What a shit show. Looking forward to the inevitable Jimquisition on this.

but you better not make a thread about it

[joeboy101]

Oh look! Another CDPR Cyberpunk thread that will magically remain open outside their own rules. Why can't this be included in their megamyth thread on said not existent harrassment? Someone could ask, but the answer is obvious.

"We have to bring attention to this!!!"

We got the equivalent of someone smacking their dick in your face, you're desperately trying not to make eye contact, while they're screaming with growing volume, "Why can't you see it?!?!"

[Cauliflower Of Love]

you people should stop reading era, it's not good for your mental health.

[BIONIC]

The Kween has spoken in the members only thread:

It would be appreciated if staff could stop throwing shade at, and banning, trans members of the forum for expressing frustration. No idea who was involved but it's been spoken to needing a consensus when action is taken, so it's kind of bewildering that multiple staff members thought that approach was constructive.

Civility being prized above all else has been a crux of the recent embarrassment, a point raised to staff directly in how the "hostility" period of bans has poisoned a lot this past year. Something that culminated in talking down to trans members while working to uplift someone who had dismissed minority concerns here for years.

Sincerely, what's going on? Even as someone who has amicably toed that line following my own bans, this repeat feeling of disdain and shade coming from the 'staff' (as certain members obviously do not hold such sentiment) is demoralising.

[HaughtyFrank]

"Fuck your bar and fuck your shit bar keepers!!"

"Hold on a minute, why are you kicking me out???"

[HaughtyFrank]

The reason Cyberpunk selling so well fascinates me is because, as someone with several trans friends who seem to genuinely believe that things are getting incrementally better as far as awareness, representation, and acceptance go, I’m a little taken aback by how those sentiments don’t transcend media lines.

A game that prominently advertises itself with a trans character is a huge bestseller and they somehow conclude that this means less trans acceptance of the populace.

Missing the forest for the trees

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Its kind of fascinating how "civility" has become some kind of slur to rebel against, rather than a baseline expectation for engaging with others on a fucking videogame forum

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

"Hello, seeming adult. Can you discuss something with another human being without screeching at them like an unhinged sociopath?"
"RAWR NO FUCK YOU GO KILL YOURSELF STOP TONE POLICING FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT DIE IN A FIRE GRAHSDGEJAN"

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

He's got me there, I would absolutely would love to violently oppress Elon Musk.

Sadly, he will never be alone in a stockroom with you

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lttp-captain-marvel-all-that-vitriol-for-this.344050/

shockingly era completely forget all the vitriol that came from them that anyone who didn't think captain marvel was the bestest woman ever in the bestest film ever was a fucking trolling nazi incel piece of shit, It Is Known

[Pissy F Benny]

culture warz

but is it really a war when its mostly people on sites like ree/in their twitter bubble bitching about the other side, while the other side are on 4chan/reddit/their own twitter bubble bitching about them, do the bombs only ever get dropped on metacritic and steam user reviews

[headwalk]

really enjoying CDPR's psyop against modest one size fits all consoles and how thematically on point it is for the genre.

[Shuri]

I'm only a couple hours in but I gotta say I'm pretty  at how it seems there are only like 20 different ads peppered across Night City. I had hoped for a more expansive living universe experience. Night City feels like 1998 Pop-up porn site fest in city form. It's a bit edgelord for my tastes. The tv stations, the radio stations all sound the same. That part of the game is seriously undercooked, they really ran out of time for this.

[Straight Edge]

I'm only a couple hours in but I gotta say I'm pretty  at how it seems there are only like 20 different ads peppered across Night City. I had hoped for a more expansive living universe experience. Night City feels like 1998 Pop-up porn site fest in city form. It's a bit edgelord for my tastes. The tv stations, the radio stations all sound the same. That part of the game is seriously undercooked, they really ran out of time for this.

They should’ve gone small open world like the recent Deus Ex games.

[Don Rumata]

I'm only a couple hours in but I gotta say I'm pretty  at how it seems there are only like 20 different ads peppered across Night City. I had hoped for a more expansive living universe experience. Night City feels like 1998 Pop-up porn site fest in city form. It's a bit edgelord for my tastes. The tv stations, the radio stations all sound the same. That part of the game is seriously undercooked, they really ran out of time for this.

They should’ve gone small open world like the recent Deus Ex games.

And flop hard like any other "immersive sim" has, in the last 10 years. 

[Straight Edge]

I'm only a couple hours in but I gotta say I'm pretty  at how it seems there are only like 20 different ads peppered across Night City. I had hoped for a more expansive living universe experience. Night City feels like 1998 Pop-up porn site fest in city form. It's a bit edgelord for my tastes. The tv stations, the radio stations all sound the same. That part of the game is seriously undercooked, they really ran out of time for this.

They should’ve gone small open world like the recent Deus Ex games.

And flop hard like any other "immersive sim" has, in the last 10 years. 

[jorma]

I'm only a couple hours in but I gotta say I'm pretty  at how it seems there are only like 20 different ads peppered across Night City. I had hoped for a more expansive living universe experience. Night City feels like 1998 Pop-up porn site fest in city form. It's a bit edgelord for my tastes. The tv stations, the radio stations all sound the same. That part of the game is seriously undercooked, they really ran out of time for this.

you could see it as "cdpr ran out of time" or you could see it as part of their dystopian vision of night city - the corpos rule, there are only a few of them and they like to hammer in one message at a time... 

[Nintex]

I'm only a couple hours in but I gotta say I'm pretty  at how it seems there are only like 20 different ads peppered across Night City. I had hoped for a more expansive living universe experience. Night City feels like 1998 Pop-up porn site fest in city form. It's a bit edgelord for my tastes. The tv stations, the radio stations all sound the same. That part of the game is seriously undercooked, they really ran out of time for this.

It's supposed to be like that. A city run by a few megacorps and gangs and that's the reason why Johnny Silverhand wants to tear it all down
There's a bit more variety once you start to open up other areas where other gangs/corps are in control and not just Arasaka.

[MMaRsu]

Nintex do u post n gaf with the same ava

[Averon]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/era-staff-is-mistreating-trans-members.344122/

TransERA is rebelling again. We need another summit!!!

This looks like Ketkat all over again 

[Tektonic]

and locked.. down with cd projekt red!

We are limiting the number of Cyberpunk 2077 threads, for reasons outlined in the OP of the Official Thread. Please continue discussion in this OT.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cdpr-issues-apology-for-issues-with-cyberpunk-2077-no-mention-of-transphobic-issues-pointed-out-by-multiple-media-outlets.344047/post-54023560

the Jimquisition this week is about the buggy state of cyberpunk 2077. Which feels a little disappointing when that’s the least of the issues with this game.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cdpr-is-a-transphobic-company-its-time-we-stop-making-excuses-for-them.307474/post-54024904

make sure you keep that kind of thinking in the "Jimquisition gaming hangout thread" OR ELSE!

[Joe Molotov]

and locked.. down with cd projekt red!

We are limiting the number of Cyberpunk 2077 threads, for reasons outlined in the OP of the Official Thread. Please continue discussion in this OT.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cdpr-issues-apology-for-issues-with-cyberpunk-2077-no-mention-of-transphobic-issues-pointed-out-by-multiple-media-outlets.344047/post-54023560

Feel free to continue discussing it in the "The Mods Suck, The Forum Sucks, Fuck You All" thread.

[Superstar]

In a sea of a thousand stupid bans, it's amazing they can keeping picking the few deserved ones.

[Averon]

And locked: https://www.resetera.com/threads/era-staff-is-mistreating-trans-members.344122/

We're working on a response for the account holder, who is who we'll be discussing this with.

ERA mods thought they were slick waiting a week to quietly give out that ban. TransERA were on your asses 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/era-staff-is-mistreating-trans-members.344122/

TransERA is rebelling again. We need another summit!!!

This looks like Ketkat all over again 

I mean, thread title right? lol

But seriously, it's become apparent that, either by active disdain for trans members on this forum or by sheer apathy for them, Era staff has been failing them. I wasn't going to make a big public stink about it, but when I saw this post from the user Sibylus?: https://www.resetera.com/threads/constructive-community-discussion.270630/post-53421562

It became entirely too apparent that trans people are being retaliated against on this forum. We already had one user who was able to turn Era mod staff against the trans community here, one Black Chamber, and now we are seeing a prominent user, a user who to my best knowledge has only gotten a three-day ban for drive by posting (which lol), being permanently banned for being angry in public at Era staff. But no, the ban wasn't even FOR being angry, not on the surface, anyway. No, the ban was because Sibylus "doesn't want to be here." That's some shit, right? And like, you, a reasonable person, would probably assume "Well maybe they DMed Era staff and requested a permaban?" Nah fam, Sibylus confirmed that no such thing happened, and she was just as confused as the rest of the people who are rightfully upset by this. Sibylus was retaliated against, and Era staff legit couldn't even help but lie to cover that up. A bad lie too, one easily disprovable.

So what now? Like, I'll probably have the thread closed, I might be banned, but I anticipated that, haha. I just don't want the discussion of Sibylus' ban to be kept to some semi-obscure thread (and also because I got permanently thread banned from that thread already for bringing up an example of a behavior that I observed with Era staff, haha). To me, each and every member of Era staff who read that post and decided that "Doesn't want to be here" was a valid reason for a permaban as a user's SECOND ban, when the first ban was incredibly minor, is clearly unfit for this line of work and needs to step down or be removed if they choose not to. I have 100 percent zero trust that either of these will happen, but hey, a woman can dream, ye?

Also I wonder how much faster mods close this thread than respond to the genuine hurt and anger in the Constructive feedback thread?

EDIT: Just to be clear, I DO want to be here, so please don't use that as a reason. c:

 

[Pwnz]

I'm only a couple hours in but I gotta say I'm pretty  at how it seems there are only like 20 different ads peppered across Night City. I had hoped for a more expansive living universe experience. Night City feels like 1998 Pop-up porn site fest in city form. It's a bit edgelord for my tastes. The tv stations, the radio stations all sound the same. That part of the game is seriously undercooked, they really ran out of time for this.

Yeah it's kind of juvenile

Besides the gamer trope of trying to romance every character, the game ironically has only a couple areas with hookers. With all of the ads and love hotels in the city you'd think it would have been more.

In some ways it's showing CDPR maturing. Remember in witcher 1 you could fuck all the women and it would give you a card trophy for each lol. Then in witcher 2 there was a hotel where you could "plough" like 6 women.

There's a lot about the games universe that doesn't make sense, like how the city rains as much as seattle but just outside it's nearly mojave desert climate. But it's just a game, and a good one imo. People like to complain.

[HaughtyFrank]

Oh shit, they're leaking PMs on their discord again

Here’s how staff think it’s appropriate to handle the concerns of trans members apparently.

Should be noted that using the phrase “pound sand” to another user has resulted in bans before

Just how much shit are they going to take from transera or is this the end of poodlestrike?

[Pwnz]

Those mod PMs show there's a hope for a redemption arc lol.

Resetera, where 5% of the forum are trans and not a single one is a troll.

I've never met a trans person that behaves like these era users. They're just people.

[Averon]

Maybe ERA mods are finally getting sick of bending over backwards for TransERA and still being called transphobes no matter what they do. In any case, I don't feel bad for them. This entire situation was a result of the mods placating TransERA's every demand and not taking a hard, impartial stance to modding the forum.

[HaughtyFrank]

Era to a nazi: How can we help you sir?
Era to a trans person: Pound sand

 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

pound sand

[BIONIC]

Kind of wonder if pound sand was possibly autocorrected from poodlestrike lol. Course maybe double check before posting if so, because that came off looking pretty bad, yeesh.

Would be weird if was considering Poodlestrike went back and edited the DM to remove the phrase “pound sand” to cover their ass and none of their other DMs to [USER=3093]A.By[/USER] had their name as a signature or anything.

So no I don’t think that’s what happened.(Image removed from quote.)

[SmokyDave]

Mods of Era: Imagine how cathartic a well timed 'Shut up and fuck off' would feel right about now. We both know you want to, so let it loose....

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/elon-musk-thinks-if-you-put-pronouns-in-your-bio-it-means-youre-an-oppressor.344083/page-4

These people just hate themselves

[ShutUp]

Pound sand  mods are definitely, finally, reaching a breaking point with these lunatics.

[BIONIC]

Towards the autocorrect theory it turns out that if you search A.By's post history for "pound sand" it gives you an actioned post from earlier this year.  Idk it could  obviously be a coincidence but at this point I think that it's pretty clearly more likely to petty than auto correct.

(Image removed from quote.)

Apparently they’re deleting callout threads as well.

[Straight Edge]

Pound sand  mods are definitely, finally, reaching a breaking point with these lunatics.

Good thing they are paid a lot to deal with all that shit.
 

[Pissy F Benny]

pound sand

should have told them to buzz off

[ShutUp]

TransEra is going to leave and think its mass exodus 2.0 only to look back and see the board moving along just fine without them. Good luck finding anywhere else out there willing to cave in to one of your demands, let alone every single one of them like Era has.

Finally pissing off the mods, who might be the only ones who were still on their side despite the umpteen number of tantrums. Well done.

[ldcommando (notthegafone)]

Summits can't solve anything, time to make another forum.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

TransEra is going to leave

lol, no.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I AM OUTRAGED AT HOW YOU FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT TREAT ME, I HOPE YOU DIE IN A FUCKING FIRE YOU CUNT, I FEEL PERSONALLY ATTACKED THAT PEOPLE DISAGREE WITH ME, AND ALSO FUCK YOU YOU FUCKING ASSHOLES, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY I STAY IN THIS SHITHOLE

please don't ban me, I am not saying I don't want to be here

[Pissy F Benny]

they should go back to gaf and force to bend the knee

[Uncle]

[Uncle]

Apparently they’re deleting callout threads as well.

so did mr. lore when people started telling him to retire bitch

[Tripon]

Oh shit, they're leaking PMs on their discord again

(Image removed from quote.)

Here’s how staff think it’s appropriate to handle the concerns of trans members apparently.

Should be noted that using the phrase “pound sand” to another user has resulted in bans before

Just how much shit are they going to take from transera or is this the end of poodlestrike?

https://twitter.com/NESbot_OT/status/1338503663841660928