Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kevin’s-traps-in-home-alone-2-are-straight-up-diabolical.349666/#post-54729838

But the doctor said I'm su-...



Oh boy, here we go. Forgive me [USER=2552]Professor Beef[/USER] I held off as long as I could. It is time to bring back The Rant™.

Kevin McAllister is a rich, white, suburban American kid whose stupid family is obscenely wealthy. Not just his immediate family, but his extended family as well. Not only is the McAllister dynasty wealthy enough to support a Parisian vacation over the holidays with 11 horrible children, but the other McAllister terror cell they are visiting is rich enough to be kicking it back in Paris while their entire multifloor Manhattan townhouse undergoes extensive renovations. This is a family whose wealth knows no measure or limit. The financial security Kevin enjoys as an upper class young boy cannot be overstated. Kevin McAllister is a boy with no concept whatsoever of want besides superficial desires like cheese pizza.

In Home Alone 2, Kevin finds himself lost in Manhattan with his father's credit card. Kevin has unlimited money to do whatever he wants. So he does. He goes to The Plaza Hotel, one of the most luxurious hotels in the city, and tricks the staff in to giving him a room. While we are meant to be impressed with Kevin's antics, this is only the beginning of a long series of humiliations he exerts over the service workers at this hotel as Kevin lords over them all with his generational wealth.

While Home Alone 1 has Kevin defending himself from would be home invaders in a life threatening situation, the service staff at The Plaza poses no such threat to him. They are not invading his space, he is invading theirs. Every single one of them are there because it's their job to be. They are doing their jobs - over the holidays no less - as Kevin manipulates them to fulfill his luxurious whims. We are meant to find it hilarious how he degrades and debases them. He doesn't tip them, he subjects them to repeated embarrassment, and ultimately makes them afraid for their lives as he simulates a mass shooting. We saw a glimpse of this in Home Alone 1 with the pizza delivery boy, but in Home Alone 2, Kevin's treatment of the wage staff at this hotel is inhumane. What we see here is that upper class Kevin exerting unearned dominance over the working class with extreme prejudice.

There is not a single hotel employee that has done anything to earn Kevin's abuse beyond do their jobs. Yet he makes them afraid they will be murdered if they dare step out of line. This is shameful.

However, where the movie is really beyond the pale is in regards to Kevin's relationship with "the pigeon lady." This homeless woman isn't even given the dignity of a name in this film. At first, Kevin perceives her with fear and disgust. He attempts to run from her but fumbles and becomes stuck. She helps him and Kevin momentarily shows a glimmer of humanity as he realizes it was wrong to be afraid of her. This moment of empathy is brief however as Kevin's selfishness and sociopathy does not allow for any actual understanding of anyone below his social class.

This woman explains that she wasn't always homeless. She once had a home and a man she loved very much but it ended badly. This incident gave her PTSD and now she is distrustful of others and is unable to function in society. She calmly and bravely opens up to Kevin about her past trauma and her subsequent dehumanization in an uncaring society that forsakes the mentally ill. And do you know how Kevin responds? He says yeah, he gets it, because he's the youngest in his disgusting family. He then tells her to get over it and that only by opening herself up to love again will she ever not be a homeless lady covered in bird shit again. Straight up, to her vulnerable face, Kevin tells a homeless woman that she is responsible for her own prolonged destitution and that if she wants people to treat her better she needs to get over her mental illness. Kevin then goes home to his luxury hotel where he has every whim of his indulged by service workers he humiliates.

Seriously, he has unlimited money. He couldn't have gotten her a place to stay? Or invited her to stay with him? He couldn't share his unlimited food with her? He didn't even offer to let her take a shower. He descends from his nearly-llteral ivory tower, blames a shit covered mentally ill homeless woman who suffers nonstop dehumanization that she needs to get over her PTSD, and at the end of a movie he gives her a fucking bird ornament to show her how much he cares about her. How does he sleep at night in his king size bed at The Plaza Hotel knowing that someone who opened up to him about her inescapable poverty and trauma is sleeping on the street in the cold? What is wrong with this monster?

Home Alone 2 is a perverse Christmas Carol. It is the story of a spoiled rich young boy whose time with the working class and the poor motivates him to torment or abandon them. Even his supposedly virtuous gesture of preventing the toy store robbery costs him nothing. It's not his money. It's not his donation. Kevin does nothing except take a tour of what it's like to be less fortunate than him and live it up in a Trump Hotel.

The Wet Bandits were right to want to kill Kevin and I always hope they catch him. 😡

Where is she even supposed to put that bird ornament?? She doesn't have a Christmas tree. She is homeless. She is surrounded at all times by actual, living birds. What does she want a fake one for?? Fuck you Kevin.

   

[Tasty]

Look at me, I have an opinion that differs from the mainstream! Aren't I special?

[BIONIC]

I thought Kevin being a sociopath was all part of the charm?

As charming as blocking your coworker in the printer room until they agree to go out with you.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/article-title-of-the-year-its-the-game-of-the-year-cp2077-in-the-same-way-hitler-was-times-man-of-the-year.349561/

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Love how these motherfuckers are suddenly hit by the vapors by that comparison. They're currency on that board is hyperbole, but of course THIS is too much.

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They are a transphobic company content to lean on inclusivity as a promotional tool at the expense of trans people. Consistently treating us with ridicule and afterthought while claiming the opposite. They are happy to foster a toxic work environment grinding their workers to the bone. They are happy to lean into the chud fanbase they know they've garnered over the years.

All over an a one shot ad.

 

Even in the same thread

No problem, fuck them indeed. Is the issue when, as Juniper mentioned above, CDPR actively courts a fanbase of nazis and general detritus from the gaming community. Several journalists who were women and critical of the game were also harassed and attacked because of their coverage.

Actively courting Nazis? Like Hitler? She's probably gritting her teeth that people are ridiculing the headline.

[Uncle]

film is not subtle

if the bird lady was intended to read as "mentally ill" or "PTSD," they would've coded her that way, rather than portraying her as friendly, good-hearted, calm and competent

what does it say about the way we judge the homeless when we assume that ALL of them must be severely mentally damaged in some way?  they're people just like us

also to say sHe DoEsN't HaVe A nAmE is to deny her the agency of whether she chooses to give it or not, doesn't she at least deserve that modicum of dignity and control?

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

No problem, fuck them indeed. Is the issue when, as Juniper mentioned above, CDPR actively courts a fanbase of nazis and general detritus from the gaming community. Several journalists who were women and critical of the game were also harassed and attacked because of their coverage.

whereas kyuuji actively courts a fanbase of stalinists and general detritus from the thinks-they're-better-than-gaming community. Several cosplayers who were women and hyped for the game were also harrassed and attacked because of their lack of coverage, if you get what I mean

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

also, absolute fucking mystery why the cinema finale fireworker worked at went bust, even taking into account free tickets for all the girls he wanted to bang but was too scared to ask out if hes doing a tarantinoesque monologue about fuck kevin mcalister and other dumb family films like a teenage edgelord

[paprikastaude]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/article-title-of-the-year-its-the-game-of-the-year-cp2077-in-the-same-way-hitler-was-times-man-of-the-year.349561/

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Love how these motherfuckers are suddenly hit by the vapors by that comparison. They're currency on that board is hyperbole, but of course THIS is too much.

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They are a transphobic company content to lean on inclusivity as a promotional tool at the expense of trans people. Consistently treating us with ridicule and afterthought while claiming the opposite. They are happy to foster a toxic work environment grinding their workers to the bone. They are happy to lean into the chud fanbase they know they've garnered over the years.

All over an a one shot ad.

 

 borderline schizophrenia?
/

[Tasty]

CDPR actively courts a fanbase of nazis

I want to see what this person considers "actively courting a fanbase of nazis," because we have actual examples of that in history and I doubt it matches up with whatever's inside this RE user's head.

[Pissy F Benny]

You need to realise that by nazi they mean ‘person(s) I don’t like’ rather than the traditional definition

[Tasty]

Also isn't that pretty offensive to say about a Polish company.

[HaughtyFrank]

CDPR actively courts a fanbase of nazis

I want to see what this person considers "actively courting a fanbase of nazis," because we have actual examples of that in history and I doubt it matches up with whatever's inside this RE user's head.

1933: Hitler gains control of the Reichstag after making a "Did you assume my gender" joke

[paprikastaude]

THQ Nordic = Mussolini?

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kevin’s-traps-in-home-alone-2-are-straight-up-diabolical.349666/#post-54729838

But the doctor said I'm su-...



Oh boy, here we go. Forgive me [USER=2552]Professor Beef[/USER] I held off as long as I could. It is time to bring back The Rant™.

Kevin McAllister is a rich, white, suburban American kid whose stupid family is obscenely wealthy. Not just his immediate family, but his extended family as well. Not only is the McAllister dynasty wealthy enough to support a Parisian vacation over the holidays with 11 horrible children, but the other McAllister terror cell they are visiting is rich enough to be kicking it back in Paris while their entire multifloor Manhattan townhouse undergoes extensive renovations. This is a family whose wealth knows no measure or limit. The financial security Kevin enjoys as an upper class young boy cannot be overstated. Kevin McAllister is a boy with no concept whatsoever of want besides superficial desires like cheese pizza.

In Home Alone 2, Kevin finds himself lost in Manhattan with his father's credit card. Kevin has unlimited money to do whatever he wants. So he does. He goes to The Plaza Hotel, one of the most luxurious hotels in the city, and tricks the staff in to giving him a room. While we are meant to be impressed with Kevin's antics, this is only the beginning of a long series of humiliations he exerts over the service workers at this hotel as Kevin lords over them all with his generational wealth.

While Home Alone 1 has Kevin defending himself from would be home invaders in a life threatening situation, the service staff at The Plaza poses no such threat to him. They are not invading his space, he is invading theirs. Every single one of them are there because it's their job to be. They are doing their jobs - over the holidays no less - as Kevin manipulates them to fulfill his luxurious whims. We are meant to find it hilarious how he degrades and debases them. He doesn't tip them, he subjects them to repeated embarrassment, and ultimately makes them afraid for their lives as he simulates a mass shooting. We saw a glimpse of this in Home Alone 1 with the pizza delivery boy, but in Home Alone 2, Kevin's treatment of the wage staff at this hotel is inhumane. What we see here is that upper class Kevin exerting unearned dominance over the working class with extreme prejudice.

There is not a single hotel employee that has done anything to earn Kevin's abuse beyond do their jobs. Yet he makes them afraid they will be murdered if they dare step out of line. This is shameful.

However, where the movie is really beyond the pale is in regards to Kevin's relationship with "the pigeon lady." This homeless woman isn't even given the dignity of a name in this film. At first, Kevin perceives her with fear and disgust. He attempts to run from her but fumbles and becomes stuck. She helps him and Kevin momentarily shows a glimmer of humanity as he realizes it was wrong to be afraid of her. This moment of empathy is brief however as Kevin's selfishness and sociopathy does not allow for any actual understanding of anyone below his social class.

This woman explains that she wasn't always homeless. She once had a home and a man she loved very much but it ended badly. This incident gave her PTSD and now she is distrustful of others and is unable to function in society. She calmly and bravely opens up to Kevin about her past trauma and her subsequent dehumanization in an uncaring society that forsakes the mentally ill. And do you know how Kevin responds? He says yeah, he gets it, because he's the youngest in his disgusting family. He then tells her to get over it and that only by opening herself up to love again will she ever not be a homeless lady covered in bird shit again. Straight up, to her vulnerable face, Kevin tells a homeless woman that she is responsible for her own prolonged destitution and that if she wants people to treat her better she needs to get over her mental illness. Kevin then goes home to his luxury hotel where he has every whim of his indulged by service workers he humiliates.

Seriously, he has unlimited money. He couldn't have gotten her a place to stay? Or invited her to stay with him? He couldn't share his unlimited food with her? He didn't even offer to let her take a shower. He descends from his nearly-llteral ivory tower, blames a shit covered mentally ill homeless woman who suffers nonstop dehumanization that she needs to get over her PTSD, and at the end of a movie he gives her a fucking bird ornament to show her how much he cares about her. How does he sleep at night in his king size bed at The Plaza Hotel knowing that someone who opened up to him about her inescapable poverty and trauma is sleeping on the street in the cold? What is wrong with this monster?

Home Alone 2 is a perverse Christmas Carol. It is the story of a spoiled rich young boy whose time with the working class and the poor motivates him to torment or abandon them. Even his supposedly virtuous gesture of preventing the toy store robbery costs him nothing. It's not his money. It's not his donation. Kevin does nothing except take a tour of what it's like to be less fortunate than him and live it up in a Trump Hotel.

The Wet Bandits were right to want to kill Kevin and I always hope they catch him. 😡

Where is she even supposed to put that bird ornament?? She doesn't have a Christmas tree. She is homeless. She is surrounded at all times by actual, living birds. What does she want a fake one for?? Fuck you Kevin.

   

What a weirdo. But I guess that was the response he was hoping for. Imagine being that offended all the time by everything that you can't even enjoy a silly Christmas movie without being jealous that imaginary movie people have more than you.

[Don Rumata]

Also isn't that pretty offensive to say about a Polish company.

Maybe CDPR thinks Polish people are subhumans, that's why they work them so hard.

[HaughtyFrank]

Sexual stuff in movies is uncomfortable 99% of the time and is so clearly just thrown in because "ooh sex taboo".

Absolutely the only reason why sex would ever be shown in media 

[Nintex]

CDPR actively courts a fanbase of nazis

I want to see what this person considers "actively courting a fanbase of nazis," because we have actual examples of that in history and I doubt it matches up with whatever's inside this RE user's head.

1933: Hitler gains control of the Reichstag after making a "Did you assume my gender" joke

Well he did misgender Eleanor Roosevelt during his declaration of war against the US. 

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/Dachsjaeger/status/1341645539402760192

 

[Tuckers Law]

Who claims to be Norwegian like it's special?   

[Tuckers Law]

How long til the umlaut is cancelled?  Or has that already occurred?

[Tasty]

Sexual stuff in movies is uncomfortable 99% of the time and is so clearly just thrown in because "ooh sex taboo".

THIS IS LITERALLY WHAT MY GRANDMA AND GRANDPA THINK

HOW CAN YOU HAVE SO LITTLE SELF REFLECTION AND AWARENESS

ARE YOU NINE

WERE YOU HOMESCHOOLED

I DON'T GET IT

[BIONIC]

You need to realise that by nazi they mean ‘person(s) I don’t like’ rather than the traditional definition

Shonda is a well known Nazi for many other reasons 

[BisMarckie]

I also heard he is OBSESSED with crime statistics.

[benjipwns]

Count me in as one of those people who lurked and joined the forum because of this thread. I want to thank TransEra for bringing these issues to light, and also Kyuuji for creating such an in-depth OP detailing all of it. For a while, I think this thread was the only place that had collected all the info in one place, and I was able to share it among my friends in discord servers and alert them when they otherwise would not have known. Thank you for all your hard work. None of you should have to work this hard to make your voices heard.

I wanted to ask the thread and TransEra community what you think about how the romances are handled. Romances are a big highlight for me in RPGs, so I was searching around and found there are 4: 2 straight (1 man and 1 woman), 1 gay man, and 1 lesbian woman. The 2 straight romances are restricted by pronoun/voice, while the gay and lesbian romances are restricted by pronoun/voice and the body type. For example, in order to experience the romance with Kerry, a gay man, you need the he/him voice and "masculine" body. Whereas Panam, a straight woman, needs only the he/him voice. Genitals are not considered for any of the romances.

What do you think of the way this is set up? Is it fine the way it is or is it transphobic? I'm cis and it comes across as awkward to me, but maybe there is a nuance that I am missing.

The thing is, I've seen guys writing to CDPR wishing Judy (the lesbian romance) would be changed to be bisexual, or relax the body restriction so they can "cheat" and just imagine they're using he/him pronouns with a masc body. Honestly, a bisexual Judy mod is probably going to be one of the first mods made :barf:

But I can also see a player who wants to be a butch lesbian in their game, and use she/her pronouns and identify more with the masculine body than the feminine body. And they're effectively locked out of the one wlw romance. I just don't know why CDPR felt the need to add additional restrictions to the gay and lesbian romances by the body type when the straight ones are not so restricted. And what that could imply.

On top of that, there's the weird possible bisexual erasure of Kerry, but that's a whole other discussion that might not fit the thread topic... and if this discussion is going more towards the topic of romances than transphobia, I apologize.

[benjipwns]

User Banned (1 Month): Excusing a Lack of Challenging White Supremacy by Senior Politician

I could easily see Corbyn or Ed Milliband reacting the same way as Keir, as in not picking it up. My friends are from a BAME community so we have a sixth sense for this stuff on top, Starmer, Nick Ferrari and probably his producers are all white so those alarm bells didn’t go off for them.

[benjipwns]

User Banned (1 Month): Inflammatory commentary, long history of similar behavior.

Yeah we are totally fucked. Covid is literally never going to be over or even slightly improve in the US.

this guy

[Transhuman]

Imagine seeing that comment and feeling compelled to report it. I'll never understand this mindset

[Potato]

Imagine seeing that comment and feeling compelled to report it. I'll never understand this mindset

Even worse, imagine seeing that report and actually thinking it's worth a ban. Ree should make me mod and I'd ban the cunt who reported them.

[benjipwns]

We're not going to host threads about enjoyment of homophobic fast food restaurants.

[Pissy F Benny]

lol imagine if they started banning people for abusing the report button, there would be about 12 posters left

[benjipwns]

Started? They've been banning people for "abusing the report system" for some time.

[Lonewulfeus]

That’s what psychoward was last banned for

[BIONIC]

We're not going to host threads about enjoyment of homophobic fast food restaurants.

I was wondering what these cunts were moaning about in the community thread.

Gotta love how a thread celebrating how awesome a bigot company is having a bunch of people callout anyone saying that Chik fil are bigots...are "bullies".  It's groundhogs day...again.

I mean, I can't predict what people will post.  Troll accounts coming into a thread to be shitty =/= "Era" as a whole.
I eventually found the OP's original account after some digging, so at least that's taken care of.

Wasn't saying it's everyone, but had to bring it up.  What Nepenthe said about Harry Potter definitely needs really be considered because there will clearly be a ton of people ready to flock in to defend it and JK.

Oh yeah, I know you didn't really mean it like that, just making the point that regardless of whatever tack we take with HP or anything else, trolls will show up. And we'll show them the door.

[Pissy F Benny]

Started? They've been banning people for "abusing the report system" for some time.

[samir]

This Hecht nicca is a real badass, goddamn!!!

[BIONIC]

This Hecht nicca is a real badass, goddamn!!!

Since you asked so nicely:

I didn't know this thread existed. So do mods and staff respond to the feedback in here as it just seems to be a ban graveyard with no real discussion or improvements.

We had an announcement on the site that you would have had to click to remove, so the existence of this thread should not be foreign to you.  As for bans, if you have some sort of constructive criticism, we can address that. If you're just here to hurl epithets at me, then yes, I can handle any inadvertent ban requests.

I just want to say here, since I haven't (or at least I don't think, but this thread has been open for months), I do not want to ban anyone here. I want to have a discussion on improving ResetEra. I think Nepenthe covered the outline of how we want to move forward well.

I am well aware that this place can be better, but I am also entirely aware that this place provides an outlet for those who wish to discuss their hobby without dealing with white supremacists and harrassers like on site such as GAF or other shit corners of the internet.  If you find that you have something in common with sites like that, please let me know - I'll be happy to remove you.

   

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I dunno if it's been tried or not before, but has there been consideration for a <3 thing for posts (similar to what Pixiv or other forums do)? No negative or downvote options or whatever, just being able to show support for posts. I think it's nice to have some positive reinforcement. These can be anonymized as well.

"Likes" are native to XenForo, we just don't have them enabled. The thinking is that if you wanna show support for something, you can make a post about and contribute to the conversation rather than things suddenly becoming a popularity contest. Also if we ever did have them, it would definitely not be anonymized, because if people start liking some bigot's post, I kiiiiiinda wanna know who they are so they can also spend some time elsewhere with their friend.
That said, I don't see us having them any time soon.

[DJ Bedroom]

For a place that hates cops so much, they sure do like acting like them

[BIONIC]

Blood will be spilled if anyone gets banned for liking a questionable filler post   

[Tuckers Law]

Blood will be spilled if anyone gets banned for liking a questionable filler post   

Liking questionable filler posts is like market speculation, it might not always pay dividends but you can’t get anything out of it unless you roll the dice.

Or at least I think that’s what James was telling me while he had us walk past that school across the street.

[Don Rumata]

Japanese version = Definitive version? (3:28)

[daycru]

We're not going to host threads about enjoyment of homophobic fast food restaurants.

Why is homophobia the only crime? McDonald’s pays its workers minimum wage and has a zillion documented cases of time theft. Why am I allowed to discuss my enjoyment of the Big Mac? Why isn’t that hurting black people?

[VomKriege]

THQ Nordic = Mussolini?

THQ Emilia-Romagna

[Snoopycat_]

Look at all those heartless swine ignoring Plum again. He is literally the Sartre of retail but they don't care.

It's half past 12 and I'm just sitting here with the same thought I've had after every single fucking shift for the past 9 months:

Is this the one?

Was the maskless customer and their maskless gaggle of kids carrying it? What about my co-workers who don't wear masks; are they passing it between each other and everyone unknowingly? Did that group of teens that came in without masks throw it all around the place? Who fucking knows. I'll know I have it when I get it (or, potentially, when my Mum gets it from me...); before then it's the anxiety, and the uncertainty, and nothing else. No breaks because there's always another shift coming up. Hell, I can't even feel good for Christmas because the store's open on the 26th and I have to go in.

I need to get out of this job... but I'm trapped. I can't get any jobs because I can't drive (rural living is fun!!!!). I can't learn to drive because of the pandemic. I can't move elsewhere either. I, therefore, have no options but to either move onwards until that inevitable day... or be unemployed. And what ungrateful shit would willingly choose unemployment in an era where so many are clamouring for any job at all?

Though even then my Mum, the person who I'm most worried about, works in a school anyway, so none of this might even matter at the end of the day.

It all feels hopeless. I just want to be able to see a future... any future, where I can spend some good time with the few people I love before things inevitably get worse. But I can't see it, and I fucking hate it. All I can see is death and tragedy and more fucking pain in the future.

But, hey, I've got a shift at 6am today anyway so... yeah.

[Transhuman]

We're not going to host threads about enjoyment of homophobic fast food restaurants.

Why is homophobia the only crime? McDonald’s pays its workers minimum wage and has a zillion documented cases of time theft. Why am I allowed to discuss my enjoyment of the Big Mac? Why isn’t that hurting black people?

Why do they purport to care more about LGBTQIA+ supportiveness than animal welfare, deforestation, pollution, obesity, or worker exploitation? Because it's easier to shame people for "hating gays" than "not caring about the environment". Plus can you imagine those pampered fucks actually taking a stand and forgoing a convenience like McDonalds/KFC/etc? They wouldn't even boycott Cyberpunk.

[Snoopycat_]

Err...Ackshually they did boycott the game. It's not their fault their devious, transphobic brains forced them to buy it

[joeboy101]

We're not going to host threads about enjoyment of homophobic fast food restaurants.

Don't forget the last bit of his lock message.

Besides, Popeyes chicken sandwich > Chick-fil-a any day of the week

Much like other power mad mods, gotta get that last hot take in right in the end as the last word.

Besides, YUM Brands is far superior to Popeye's.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Chik-Fil-A is better than Popeye's

[close]

[headwalk]

i've often wondered whether the prussian military zeal is a reaction to hilarious whimsy of their compound noun ridden language, whereas the bavarians just embraced it, dressed like nonces and made their houses out of gingerbread.

[Tasty]

We're not going to host threads about enjoyment of homophobic fast food restaurants.

Why is homophobia the only crime? McDonald’s pays its workers minimum wage and has a zillion documented cases of time theft. Why am I allowed to discuss my enjoyment of the Big Mac? Why isn’t that hurting black people?

Why do they purport to care more about LGBTQIA+ supportiveness than animal welfare, deforestation, pollution, obesity, or worker exploitation? Because it's easier to shame people for "hating gays" than "not caring about the environment". Plus can you imagine those pampered fucks actually taking a stand and forgoing a convenience like McDonalds/KFC/etc? They wouldn't even boycott Cyberpunk.

Eh this is straight whataboutism.


Also fuck Chik-Fil-A and their shitty chicken

[Uncle]

Eh this is straight whataboutism.

I'm not sure it is when they DO turn their ire toward some of those things whenever the mood takes them

if the site is going to be 100% committed toward the lgbtqia+ cause alone then sure, nothing wrong with that

I'm not gonna criticize planned parenthood for not doing more in the fight against fur, they have a clear mission statement



but era is all over the fucking map, you'll have a thread about fat shaming and then a month later a user gets banned because they went in a little too hard yelling at someone for calling trump fat

you'll have threads about expanding sensitivity to language like github removing master/slave or twitch banning "blind" playthroughs, and then they ban the guy who asks people to stop using the word bastard



when you show a willingness half the time to talk about ALL of these things, it's not whataboutism to say well why do the mod cops suddenly stop enforcing sensitivity in THIS thread?

you care about crunch time in the game industry but not exploitative overtime in the fast food industry?

[Transhuman]

We're not going to host threads about enjoyment of homophobic fast food restaurants.

Why is homophobia the only crime? McDonald’s pays its workers minimum wage and has a zillion documented cases of time theft. Why am I allowed to discuss my enjoyment of the Big Mac? Why isn’t that hurting black people?

Why do they purport to care more about LGBTQIA+ supportiveness than animal welfare, deforestation, pollution, obesity, or worker exploitation? Because it's easier to shame people for "hating gays" than "not caring about the environment". Plus can you imagine those pampered fucks actually taking a stand and forgoing a convenience like McDonalds/KFC/etc? They wouldn't even boycott Cyberpunk.

Eh this is straight whataboutism.


Also fuck Chik-Fil-A and their shitty chicken

Nah, whataboutism is when you're trying to deflect. I wholeheartedly support the people raising awareness/abstaining from eating at chickfila, but if those same people could see the forest for the trees (in this case literal forests) maybe they'd change their spending habits a little more. Personally i'm vegan, which I only mention so it's clear i'm not just saying all this because i'm trying to do a "gotcha" to defend eating at chickfila or something (not that they have it here in Oz).

Also, chickfila stopped donating to anti-LGBT orgs so it's not like any of this even matters.

[daycru]

We're not going to host threads about enjoyment of homophobic fast food restaurants.

Why is homophobia the only crime? McDonald’s pays its workers minimum wage and has a zillion documented cases of time theft. Why am I allowed to discuss my enjoyment of the Big Mac? Why isn’t that hurting black people?

Why do they purport to care more about LGBTQIA+ supportiveness than animal welfare, deforestation, pollution, obesity, or worker exploitation? Because it's easier to shame people for "hating gays" than "not caring about the environment". Plus can you imagine those pampered fucks actually taking a stand and forgoing a convenience like McDonalds/KFC/etc? They wouldn't even boycott Cyberpunk.

Eh this is straight whataboutism.

Also fuck Chik-Fil-A and their shitty chicken

Why is your thing the important one?

[Cauliflower Of Love]

I wonder many of them eat chic fil a on the downlow while playing cyberpunk and posting on gaf

[Tasty]

Why is your thing the important one?

Participation in a capitalistic system (and all that entails) is more than a shade different from actively supporting organizations that I know second- and third-hand cause harm.

Also, chickfila stopped donating to anti-LGBT orgs so it's not like any of this even matters.

That's great. Even better if they admitted fault and apologized.

Either way their chicken still sucks ass and I won't be eating there.

[Tasty]

Any company that supports Exodust International and/or conversion therapy will land on my shitlist. I'm not being inconsistent about this.

The only such company that's ever entered my purview has been Chik-fil-A. I'm glad things are different today, but you're not gonna "gotcha" me for how I felt about them for almost a decade.

[Hermit]

Nobody cares tbh

[Tasty]

Nobody cares tbh

Excuse me, who are you?

Oh yeah, I don't care.

[Hermit]

 

[ldcommando (notthegafone)]

 

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Well, I just did a side gig where Johnny told me that voting is basically for losers as both sides are the same and thus nothing changes. Amazing political commentary.

Your complaint is he's akin to an era poster?

[I am (not) a weeb]

the dorks in that thread complaining about a corporation being evil was hilarious considering it was all posted without a hint of self awareness on a site dedicated to plastic toys made by slave labor