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BadAss2961

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41820 on: May 02, 2021, 08:22:00 PM »
Just as a social experiment, I would love to see how that community would function if you picked a random selection of 10 Boreians to moderate it for a month.

I guess this would result in practically no one getting banned for a month.

99% of the bans on Ree are utter fuckery. No one really does anything banworthy since you can barely speak about anything unless you share their pathetically narrow worldview.

With people able to express themselves, meaning no close-minded woke dumbasses as mods letting their side dish it out without debate. It wouldn't take long for all the narcs and crybabies to shape up without moderation banning everyone who challenged, mocked, or exposed them.

I'd just randomly release user reports for fun.  :teehee

Nintex

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41821 on: May 02, 2021, 08:25:33 PM »
Just make Nintex, Pissy F Benny and team filler the mods  8)

Place would be chill and well managed  :pimp
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FUME5

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41822 on: May 02, 2021, 08:58:16 PM »
Permanent ban for mansplaining when the dude was 100% right.

Nepenthe is a fuckin moron.

Straight Edge

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41823 on: May 02, 2021, 09:02:51 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/returnal-ot-alien-resorrection.416364/page-107
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Gotta say though the main character is the one of the ugliest protagonists in gaming.

 :neogaf

If you think a video game character is ugly, you're a troll.
Also, if you think a video game character is hot, you're a misogynist.
« Last Edit: May 02, 2021, 09:09:04 PM by Straight Edge »
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Uncle

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41824 on: May 02, 2021, 09:38:10 PM »
There is already a lot of Me Too stories about furries. The white washing on Era can only do too much.

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41825 on: May 02, 2021, 09:44:28 PM »
It's a pretty weird thing to say she's ugly though, especially since she's not ugly

Uncle

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41826 on: May 02, 2021, 09:49:55 PM »
Just as a social experiment, I would love to see how that community would function if you picked a random selection of 10 Boreians to moderate it for a month.

well just look at the era adjacent metacouncil, where everyone is a mod and I don't actually know how it works because a few people get banned, what is there some kind of point system or something

but it is completely chill and thriving

I think people just don't say controversial things because they know someone else will randomly infract them?
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Straight Edge

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41827 on: May 02, 2021, 09:50:21 PM »
It's a pretty weird thing to say she's ugly though, especially since she's not ugly

He said, she's one of the ugliest protagonists in a video game and now I'm struggling to think of an example that proves him wrong. She old and plain looking which is why Restera will love her and any criticism of her design will be verboten.
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Uncle

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41828 on: May 02, 2021, 09:52:21 PM »
It's a pretty weird thing to say she's ugly though, especially since she's not ugly

User banned (permanent): boy's club rhetoric
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41830 on: May 02, 2021, 11:01:55 PM »
It's a pretty weird thing to say she's ugly though, especially since she's not ugly

He said, she's one of the ugliest protagonists in a video game and now I'm struggling to think of an example that proves him wrong. She old and plain looking which is why Restera will love her and any criticism of her design will be verboten.

I'm not sure if "she looks ugly" is a criticism of the design so much as it's a criticism of Anne Beyer's face

Uncle

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41831 on: May 02, 2021, 11:13:44 PM »
if you don't know a specific face model was used (like me) then a gut reaction to how it looks has nothing to do with her

this is like when era bans for criticizing a trans person when nothing about the text you were criticizing indicated anything about the person



plus the actress looks better than the game character
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samir

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41832 on: May 02, 2021, 11:15:43 PM »
It's a pretty weird thing to say she's ugly though, especially since she's not ugly

He said, she's one of the ugliest protagonists in a video game and now I'm struggling to think of an example that proves him wrong. She old and plain looking which is why Restera will love her and any criticism of her design will be verboten.

I'm not sure if "she looks ugly" is a criticism of the design so much as it's a criticism of Anne Beyer's face


Switters

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41833 on: May 02, 2021, 11:16:47 PM »
Bro, like Selene, I'm in my 40's. That ass is spring loaded taut and I enjoy flinging it around the map, while my ass looks like a waffle house stool with water damage.

Selene is Bae, and boys club rhetoric aside, totally fuckable.
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Boredfrom

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41834 on: May 02, 2021, 11:25:51 PM »

https://www.resetera.com/threads/indias-absolute-clusterfuck-covid-situation-the-system-has-collapsed-300k-infections-per-day-with-no-national-strategy.413580/page-16#post-64130484

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I 've been getting ads for her videos (and Shapiro) on YouTube every day this week, no matter how many times I click "Stop seeing this ad". It's fucking bullshit how they get to spread even if you've done everything in your power to avoid it. 

It always weirds me out how much RE gets bombarded of alt right stuff at YouTube when I get Japanese VTubers, Chinese propaganda or Indian rap videos. And I’m pretty sure Ai only get the last two because Genshin Impact, Azur Lane and reading about India  Covid Crisis.


benjipwns

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41835 on: May 02, 2021, 11:38:36 PM »
It's because they watch thirty minute to hour long videos about the alt-right/conservatives regularly. The "algorithm" just sees their interest in [topic] not that it's criticism or support.

I get basically no political suggestions on YouTube. Because the only political content I ever watch is historical stuff and pretty rarely at that. If I watch a Last Week Tonight segment or something I'll get recommended the others (and similar videos on the topic) for a couple days but then it goes back to my normal shit of basketball clips, TV show clips and dunkey-like video game videos.
« Last Edit: May 02, 2021, 11:43:46 PM by benjipwns »

FUME5

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41836 on: May 03, 2021, 12:56:07 AM »
She looks like someone who would get in a spaceship.

BadAss2961

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41837 on: May 03, 2021, 01:15:44 AM »
Selene reminds me of Brienne of Tarth. A quick google search tells me i'm not the only one.

Boredfrom

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41838 on: May 03, 2021, 01:19:15 AM »
It's because they watch thirty minute to hour long videos about the alt-right/conservatives regularly. The "algorithm" just sees their interest in [topic] not that it's criticism or support.

I get basically no political suggestions on YouTube. Because the only political content I ever watch is historical stuff and pretty rarely at that. If I watch a Last Week Tonight segment or something I'll get recommended the others (and similar videos on the topic) for a couple days but then it goes back to my normal shit of basketball clips, TV show clips and dunkey-like video game videos.

I just don’t get why I get Indian stuff, because outside of google searches about the second Covid wave, I really don’t care.

Boredfrom

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41839 on: May 03, 2021, 03:34:26 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/progressive-media-individuals-are-rallying-to-sympathize-with-boss-who-flashed-his-employees-because-he-was-naked-in-a-bath-during-a-meeting.419577/

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.  According to Ira Silverberg, a literary agent and editor who is acting as Shenk’s advisor, Shenk was soaking in a bathtub with Epsom salts during the meeting to alleviate nerve pain caused by fibromyalgia.

You are scum of the earth, Incelsior.

Pissy F Benny

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41840 on: May 03, 2021, 03:53:15 AM »
Just make Nintex, Pissy F Benny and team filler the mods  8)

Place would be chill and well managed  :pimp

I'd be such a tyrant banning people for my amusement I'd make bork look like ghandi :trumps
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Boredfrom

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41841 on: May 03, 2021, 04:15:13 AM »

https://www.resetera.com/threads/progressive-media-individuals-are-rallying-to-sympathize-with-boss-who-flashed-his-employees-because-he-was-naked-in-a-bath-during-a-meeting.419577/#post-64141689

Quote from: Incelsior
Half of them are a guy who defended a serial abuser candidate for legislature and a tradcath who uses class progressiveness to sneak in social regression. 

Slayven is that you?

Is also kind of creepy how Incel lacks of genuine empathy.

Boredfrom

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41842 on: May 03, 2021, 04:19:59 AM »
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.   So this is just your twitter beef brought to this form. And liz isn't a tradcath ... she's married to a fucking atheist

half these outrages seem designed to use others as proxies to fight people your mad at for somethin

This dude is going to get banned so hard.

Pissy F Benny

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41843 on: May 03, 2021, 04:29:45 AM »
that thread is so weird, why should anyone care about some rando accidentally flashing his pecker on zoom
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Averon

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41844 on: May 03, 2021, 04:30:21 AM »
excelsiorlef finally getting called on her shitty, instigating thread making :lol

Sadly, Senator Toadstool probably now on a hit list to get got from one of excelsiorlef's buddy mods.
« Last Edit: May 03, 2021, 04:48:02 AM by Averon »

Pissy F Benny

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41845 on: May 03, 2021, 04:32:01 AM »
that thread is so weird, why should anyone care about some rando accidentally flashing his pecker on zoom

I know it's an extension of the twitter need for constant outrage and new villains of the day
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benjipwns

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41846 on: May 03, 2021, 04:44:59 AM »
Why is that thread not addressing the fact that fibromyalgia isn't real?

 :info

benjipwns

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41847 on: May 03, 2021, 04:46:26 AM »
Sadly, Senator Toadstool probably now on a hit list now to get got from one of excelsiorlef's buddy mods.
He misgendered her, he's done for.

Averon

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41848 on: May 03, 2021, 04:47:17 AM »
Imagine the mods finally taking away Incelsior's thread making privileges. Poor woman wouldn't last long I'd think.

samir

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41849 on: May 03, 2021, 05:04:08 AM »
I wonder what happened to incelchief to make her become the way she is.

SmokyDave

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41850 on: May 03, 2021, 05:07:26 AM »
I wonder what happened to incelchief to make her become the way she is.
I think some of the white feminism / Karen chatter last year might have hit a little close to home. Seems strange to fully embrace it like she has been, but there’s nowt so queer as folk.

BIONIC

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41851 on: May 03, 2021, 05:32:22 AM »
Quote from: excelsiorlef, post: 64142682, member: 330
Look I fucked up the framing 100%, I do that sometimes I admit because I get kinda of locked in my own awareness space that I forget that not everyone is as dreadfully online as me.
Quote from: DIE BART DIE, post: 64143084, member: 7313
So you're saying

You made a mistake on the internet

And now you want people's understanding

Interesting

:society
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41852 on: May 03, 2021, 05:41:48 AM »
must be exhausting to have to filter literally everything you see through the axe you have to grind against a bunch of people on the internet you really dislike for some reason
Lol. Incelchief destroyed

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I don't get the outrage here

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I didn't either at first, not knowing who any of these people were when I entered the thread.

Then context gets posted and it clicks. "Oh, then of course this OP would make this thread."
« Last Edit: May 03, 2021, 05:50:46 AM by Potato »
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samir

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41853 on: May 03, 2021, 05:47:32 AM »
incelchief has obviously never been in a video conference considering her job  :lol

HaughtyFrank

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41854 on: May 03, 2021, 06:43:21 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/returnal-ot-alien-resorrection.416364/page-107
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Gotta say though the main character is the one of the ugliest protagonists in gaming.

 :neogaf

If you think a video game character is ugly, you're a troll.
Also, if you think a video game character is hot, you're a misogynist.

Funny that there were tons of comments like this about the Jedi fallen order guy without problem.

Uncle

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41855 on: May 03, 2021, 06:48:26 AM »
Quote from: excelsiorlef, post: 64142682, member: 330
Look I fucked up the framing 100%, I do that sometimes I admit because I get kinda of locked in my own awareness space that I forget that not everyone is as dreadfully online as me.
Quote from: DIE BART DIE, post: 64143084, member: 7313
So you're saying

You made a mistake on the internet

And now you want people's understanding

Interesting

:society

Quote from: excel
Nice.

I'm also not your boss and my mistake wasn't precepted by making the active decision to be naked while video conferencing with you.

And I don't actually expect anyone's understanding I'm just admitting my mistakes and letting it fall where it may.

I am now shifting to discussing that it's absolutely interesting that many here are actually outright arguing that it was acceptable for him to be naked.

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Mostima

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41856 on: May 03, 2021, 07:16:32 AM »
Wow, I wonder how long Excel's ban will be for inflammatory dismissal of concerns about ableism and antagonizing other members.

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41857 on: May 03, 2021, 08:06:06 AM »
Incelchief is a Neverbant, and will receive zero repercussions, even though her obnoxious shtick has been 100% verified and outed in that thread

Pissy F Benny

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41858 on: May 03, 2021, 08:19:07 AM »
excel is way too powerful for the mods to punish, they gave her a temp ban once that was quickly overturned :lol
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Straight Edge

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41859 on: May 03, 2021, 08:21:17 AM »
She briefly experienced annihilation.
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41860 on: May 03, 2021, 08:44:49 AM »
Panicky angry trans is the worst type of person to be around

It's literally impossible to do or say anything because they just fuckin lose it

A polite correction with some good insight gets met with this fuckin anxiety ridden asshole reaction



https://www.resetera.com/threads/boss-resigns-after-he-exposed-himself-to-his-employees-while-naked-in-the-bath-during-zoom-meeting.419577/page-2#post-64142148

joeboy101

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41861 on: May 03, 2021, 09:03:35 AM »
Quote from: Pandora012
Thread has run its course

And there it is.

 :kermit

Potato

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41862 on: May 03, 2021, 09:28:42 AM »
Quote from: Pandora012
Thread has run its course

And there it is.

 :kermit
Oh come on, there was at least another page worth of people dumping on incelchief and her digging a deeper hole for herself before the thread had really run its course you arseholes.
Spud

Boredfrom

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41863 on: May 03, 2021, 09:57:57 AM »
excel is way too powerful for the mods to punish, they gave her a temp ban once that was quickly overturned :lol

Well, at least it seems in exchange she rarely shit talks mods anymore. She doesn’t even participate in the TransRE drama.

I think she is legit internet obsessed so maybe the mods have genuine (and misplaced) pity on her.

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41864 on: May 03, 2021, 10:08:23 AM »
Quote from: Pandora012
Thread has run its course

And there it is.

 :kermit

:dead
holy shit, they do actually work as janitors for her

Averon

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41865 on: May 03, 2021, 10:30:42 AM »
Is incelchief still bagging groceries? You'd think she would use that time and energy she invest in crawling through the internet looking for stuff to get ERA riled up to do something more useful with her life. Seems her only joy is to use ERA as an attack dog for stuff she finds online she doesn't like.

GreatSageEqualOfHeaven

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41866 on: May 03, 2021, 10:56:01 AM »
Is incelchief still bagging groceries? You'd think she would use that time and energy she invest in crawling through the internet looking for stuff to get ERA riled up to do something more useful with her life. Seems her only joy is to use ERA as an attack dog for stuff she finds online she doesn't like.



plot twist: incelchief is the person who bought out shinobi / zhuge / emily rogers shares when they bounced

Switters

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41867 on: May 03, 2021, 12:24:08 PM »
I'm sorry. I'm DREADFULLY online...

 :snob
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Joe Molotov

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41868 on: May 03, 2021, 12:26:35 PM »
Too Online to Fail, you might say.
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joeboy101

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41869 on: May 03, 2021, 12:30:59 PM »
Too Online to Fail, you might say.

 :camby

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41870 on: May 03, 2021, 06:40:50 PM »
Wait didn't these assholes ban him for saying a statue of Triss was hot? Fucking clowns.

Rest in peace my friend

Yes, yes they did.  Enjoy your ban as well :salute

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41871 on: May 03, 2021, 07:03:06 PM »
It was a poster i am pretty sure, but yeah.  :lol



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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41872 on: May 03, 2021, 07:10:10 PM »
Dude edited his post and he’s still gonna get banned :crowdlaff

samir

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41873 on: May 03, 2021, 07:11:51 PM »
Permanent ban :lol

Totally a cool normal forum you got there, B-Chuds

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41874 on: May 03, 2021, 07:12:00 PM »
Phazon confirmed that the old dawg took his own life. What a tragedy. He was such a kind soul  :'(

Those ResetEra fucks and their enablers that banned him can pound sand and fuck off  :tocry
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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41875 on: May 03, 2021, 07:46:19 PM »
A long time member dies and the fucking mods are more concerned that someone said something mean about them

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41877 on: May 03, 2021, 09:44:47 PM »
That incelsiorlef thread was amazing.  A complete and utter destruction.  Of course nothing will happen due to her mod friends / ban immunity.

Edit: and no I'm not posting a chick at the top of the page. Get rekt you sexist cucks.
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Lonewulfeus

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41878 on: May 03, 2021, 10:16:37 PM »
Subvert the trope, post a dude!

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Re: Doxxing Files |OT| Do not use a pandemic to make a platform wars thread
« Reply #41879 on: May 03, 2021, 10:33:49 PM »
There's nothing wrong with the female body, I like it. I don't even know why. Something to do with evolution.

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The male body on the otherhand...  :yuck