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Re: Is the world burning?
« Reply #2040 on: June 04, 2020, 10:45:34 PM »
I think it's time to start drug testing police officer for anabolic steroids.

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« Reply #2041 on: June 04, 2020, 10:45:54 PM »
God protect the Buffalo target

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« Reply #2042 on: June 04, 2020, 10:48:01 PM »
I try to emotionally distance myself from videos like that by reminding myself that there is an ocean between me and those events. Not the best approach, but there isn't much I can do anyway
I spent all of last year watching innocent people get shot in their own streets in other countries but it's completely different when it's your own government attacking your own people. It just makes you sick in a way you can't understand until it happens.

I get that, my father told me that when martial law was imposed to squash the Solidarnosc movement, he deciced that this wasn't his country anymore and wanted to flee, even though if it meant leaving everything behind.
He never liked the communist party to begin with but that was the final straw.

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« Reply #2043 on: June 04, 2020, 10:48:04 PM »
https://twitter.com/MarleeTuskesTV/status/1268732525448441856


It also seems like he is in the hospital and stable.
Suspensions again. Fuck my life. Love how cops are subject to the law like the rest of us

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« Reply #2044 on: June 04, 2020, 10:50:19 PM »
It's about identifying with the victim.  All of this is bad, but it's about the thing that makes you at a gut level go this is so wrong, and unfortunately that's not seeing a black man die over 8 minutes or young hippies getting gassed to a lot of people.

It's fucked up but the second best thing you can do as a respectable-looking white person at a protest like this is to deter the police from violence (like the NOW ladies who formed a human wall), and the best thing you can do is be the one getting brutalized where everyone can see it.

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« Reply #2045 on: June 04, 2020, 10:50:30 PM »
Ya I hope there is a reckoning in Buffalo tomorrow

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« Reply #2046 on: June 04, 2020, 10:52:28 PM »
"a possible concussion"


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« Reply #2047 on: June 04, 2020, 10:54:49 PM »
What the FUCK is wrong with these people?

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« Reply #2048 on: June 04, 2020, 10:55:09 PM »
It's about identifying with the victim.  All of this is bad, but it's about the thing that makes you at a gut level go this is so wrong, and unfortunately that's not seeing a black man die over 8 minutes or young hippies getting gassed to a lot of people.

It's fucked up but the second best thing you can do as a respectable-looking white person at a protest like this is to deter the police from violence (like the NOW ladies who formed a human wall), and the best thing you can do is be the one getting brutalized where everyone can see it.

Pretty sure that is the best thing anyone can do for a protest of police violence.  The whole point should be to entice police into using unacceptable violence on camera and the whole thing is fucked.  The black man has to die on camera so that black people burn the cop cars on camera so that people feel compelled to join the event so that more black people can be beaten on camera so that the white old man comes out in Buffalo to be beaten on camera. 

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« Reply #2049 on: June 04, 2020, 10:58:35 PM »
i can just imagine the pre march hype machine

"This is our city! they're not burning it down, if anyone is gonna burn it down it's gonna be us!"

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« Reply #2051 on: June 04, 2020, 11:04:26 PM »
Damn Poles  :maf

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Re: Is the world burning?
« Reply #2052 on: June 04, 2020, 11:04:36 PM »
I'm starting to think that " a couple of bad apples" may not explain the US Police issue fully. :thinking
Perhaps should be rephrased as "a couple of good apples".

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« Reply #2053 on: June 04, 2020, 11:06:36 PM »
I'm the millionth person to point it out, but the phrase is "One bad apple can spoil the bunch."

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« Reply #2054 on: June 04, 2020, 11:06:59 PM »
It's about identifying with the victim.  All of this is bad, but it's about the thing that makes you at a gut level go this is so wrong, and unfortunately that's not seeing a black man die over 8 minutes or young hippies getting gassed to a lot of people.

It's fucked up but the second best thing you can do as a respectable-looking white person at a protest like this is to deter the police from violence (like the NOW ladies who formed a human wall), and the best thing you can do is be the one getting brutalized where everyone can see it.

Pretty sure that is the best thing anyone can do for a protest of police violence.  The whole point should be to entice police into using unacceptable violence on camera and the whole thing is fucked.  The black man has to die on camera so that black people burn the cop cars on camera so that people feel compelled to join the event so that more black people can be beaten on camera so that the white old man comes out in Buffalo to be beaten on camera.
how much is any of this being shown on national tv? seeing twitter vids with millions of views is cool, but the dirty dems proved the chad msm beats out the virgin social media during the primary  :larry
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Re: Is the world burning?
« Reply #2055 on: June 04, 2020, 11:08:06 PM »
NYPD has pretty much successfully enforced the curfew today, as of 11pm. We'll see what happens during the weekend.
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« Reply #2056 on: June 04, 2020, 11:08:27 PM »
Another video.

Dozens of cops and like four protestors

https://mobile.twitter.com/KatieGibasTV/status/1268702159295655938

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« Reply #2057 on: June 04, 2020, 11:09:52 PM »
I'm starting to think that " a couple of bad apples" may not explain the US Police issue fully. :thinking
Perhaps should be rephrased as "a couple of good apples".
the brehs who flew into the twin towers were just a couple of bad apples, can't blame all of alqaeda for a couple of bad freedom fighters  :trumps
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« Reply #2058 on: June 04, 2020, 11:12:05 PM »
Another video.

Dozens of cops and like four protestors

https://mobile.twitter.com/KatieGibasTV/status/1268702159295655938

Ugh, that one is hard to watch. His head smacking the pavement is so loud. :fbm
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« Reply #2059 on: June 04, 2020, 11:13:47 PM »
And ShitLibs want her to be president in a few years. :snoop

https://twitter.com/atbobb/status/1268611630738272259

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« Reply #2060 on: June 04, 2020, 11:15:41 PM »
And ShitLibs want her to be president in a few years. :snoop

https://twitter.com/atbobb/status/1268611630738272259
figured the cia trained her better than that  :maduro
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« Reply #2061 on: June 04, 2020, 11:21:01 PM »
ABC has it


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« Reply #2062 on: June 04, 2020, 11:22:04 PM »
And ShitLibs want her to be president in a few years. :snoop

https://twitter.com/atbobb/status/1268611630738272259

It's better than wrapping a bandanna around your face, which was the point of her post.
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« Reply #2063 on: June 04, 2020, 11:22:12 PM »
Another video.

Dozens of cops and like four protestors

https://mobile.twitter.com/KatieGibasTV/status/1268702159295655938
Yeah this really says it all about the Imperial-Officer-Larping.
"HOLD THE LINE!" dude, nobody's there.
Marching screaming against 2 journalists, an anemic looking guy with a skateboard and an old guy.

Reminds me of those people fantasizing about the zombie apocalypse, so they'd have an excuse to use all those assault rifles they've spent 100k on, only in this case, backed by the state.  ::)

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« Reply #2065 on: June 04, 2020, 11:25:25 PM »
It's about identifying with the victim.  All of this is bad, but it's about the thing that makes you at a gut level go this is so wrong, and unfortunately that's not seeing a black man die over 8 minutes or young hippies getting gassed to a lot of people.

It's fucked up but the second best thing you can do as a respectable-looking white person at a protest like this is to deter the police from violence (like the NOW ladies who formed a human wall), and the best thing you can do is be the one getting brutalized where everyone can see it.

Pretty sure that is the best thing anyone can do for a protest of police violence.  The whole point should be to entice police into using unacceptable violence on camera and the whole thing is fucked.  The black man has to die on camera so that black people burn the cop cars on camera so that people feel compelled to join the event so that more black people can be beaten on camera so that the white old man comes out in Buffalo to be beaten on camera.
how much is any of this being shown on national tv? seeing twitter vids with millions of views is cool, but the dirty dems proved the chad msm beats out the virgin social media during the primary  :larry

there seems to be a 6 hour delay from twitter to cnn.  oh cnn just talked about it.

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« Reply #2066 on: June 04, 2020, 11:26:01 PM »
And ShitLibs want her to be president in a few years.

If we're keeping score, Bernie said yesterday we need to pay higher wages to attract better officers.

Maybe one of the lessons of this whole debacle is not emotionally overinvesting in individual politicians? Just throwing that out there.

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« Reply #2067 on: June 04, 2020, 11:28:37 PM »
Maybe one of the lessons of this whole debacle is not emotionally overinvesting in individual politicians? Just throwing that out there.

No shit? Doesn't negate my point: AOC is being propped up by ShitLibs that think she farts unicorns and rainbows. Just like Cuomo was until recently.

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« Reply #2068 on: June 04, 2020, 11:29:34 PM »
You say dumb things way more often than she does so have a little humility
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« Reply #2069 on: June 04, 2020, 11:30:17 PM »

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« Reply #2070 on: June 04, 2020, 11:30:19 PM »
And ShitLibs want her to be president in a few years.

If we're keeping score, Bernie said yesterday we need to pay higher wages to attract better officers.

Maybe one of the lessons of this whole debacle is not emotionally overinvesting in individual politicians? Just throwing that out there.

That guy was suspended and not fired.  Why are these police departments holding onto these guys like they're senior level engineers at a tech company, too costly to replace.  They're cops.  Any idiot can be a cop.  How are they not soaking up the labor supply?  These are not important or talented people.

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« Reply #2071 on: June 04, 2020, 11:30:29 PM »
https://twitter.com/mjfree/status/1268739364630212610
Cops on bicycles must be like:

So they need to step up their violence.  :doge

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« Reply #2072 on: June 04, 2020, 11:33:38 PM »
Cops on bicycles must be like:
https://i.imgur.com/eipugIu.jpg
So they need to step up their violence.  :doge


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« Reply #2073 on: June 04, 2020, 11:34:57 PM »
And ShitLibs want her to be president in a few years.

If we're keeping score, Bernie said yesterday we need to pay higher wages to attract better officers.

Maybe one of the lessons of this whole debacle is not emotionally overinvesting in individual politicians? Just throwing that out there.

That guy was suspended and not fired.  Why are these police departments holding onto these guys like they're senior level engineers at a tech company, too costly to replace.  They're cops.  Any idiot can be a cop.  How are they not soaking up the labor supply?  These are not important or talented people.
That seems to be the key issue?
You can even fund the police adequately, but not spend that cash in distinguished mentally-challenged shit like APCs and military gear like you're stationed in Fallujah, which actually sends the opposite message about what a police force is even supposed to be, in a civilized society.
Being a cop definitely shouldn't be something any fucking idiot can sign up to do and get in.

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« Reply #2075 on: June 04, 2020, 11:38:36 PM »
And ShitLibs want her to be president in a few years.

If we're keeping score, Bernie said yesterday we need to pay higher wages to attract better officers.

Maybe one of the lessons of this whole debacle is not emotionally overinvesting in individual politicians? Just throwing that out there.

That guy was suspended and not fired.  Why are these police departments holding onto these guys like they're senior level engineers at a tech company, too costly to replace.  They're cops.  Any idiot can be a cop.  How are they not soaking up the labor supply?  These are not important or talented people.
That seems to be the key issue?
You can even fund the police adequately, but not spend that cash in distinguished mentally-challenged fellowed shit like APCs and military gear like you're stationed in Fallujah, which actually sends the opposite message about what a police force is even supposed to be, in a civilized society.
Being a cop definitely shouldn't be something any fucking idiot can sign up to do and get in.

But it is strange:  That cop was earning $80k+.  Surely you can afford to fire someone shitty and hire someone decent at that wage - and if you can't construct a way to test for decency upon hiring, at least fire the indecent people after the fact.  It doesn't make sense that they hold onto these people so tightly.

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« Reply #2076 on: June 04, 2020, 11:40:43 PM »
https://ustv247.tv/cnn-live-streaming/ about to start
it's a cop on acting like he cares  ::)

" sympathetic tank(retired) interviewed about tank brutality in tianmen square: says tanks know better and this has to stop!"
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« Reply #2077 on: June 04, 2020, 11:42:53 PM »
That seems to be the key issue?
You can even fund the police adequately, but not spend that cash in distinguished mentally-challenged fellowed shit like APCs and military gear like you're stationed in Fallujah, which actually sends the opposite message about what a police force is even supposed to be, in a civilized society.
Being a cop definitely shouldn't be something any fucking idiot can sign up to do and get in.

If the job entails asserting your authority on other people (physically and otherwise) and has a culture of impunity, trying to only hire angels won't change much. Dozens of Buffalo PD walked by that old man as he was lying on the ground and bleeding not because every individual one of them was a particularly bad person, but because of what sort of behavior the system rewards, punishes, and conditions the officers to see as normal.

Better screening probably couldn't hurt though. I just wouldn't put too much hope into it.

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« Reply #2078 on: June 04, 2020, 11:48:48 PM »
cnn trying to spin police brutality as a trump problem  :titus
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« Reply #2079 on: June 05, 2020, 12:07:18 AM »
That seems to be the key issue?
You can even fund the police adequately, but not spend that cash in distinguished mentally-challenged fellowed shit like APCs and military gear like you're stationed in Fallujah, which actually sends the opposite message about what a police force is even supposed to be, in a civilized society.
Being a cop definitely shouldn't be something any fucking idiot can sign up to do and get in.

If the job entails asserting your authority on other people (physically and otherwise) and has a culture of impunity, trying to only hire angels won't change much. Dozens of Buffalo PD walked by that old man as he was lying on the ground and bleeding not because every individual one of them was a particularly bad person, but because of what sort of behavior the system rewards, punishes, and conditions the officers to see as normal.

Better screening probably couldn't hurt though. I just wouldn't put too much hope into it.
I agree, and "hiring better people" is such an abstract condition in practical terms, that means little, beyond "don't give a badge to the psychopath with the Mussolini tattoo" (a standard most police institutions around the world are still below, nevertheless).
Still, i think you can consider the concept of "funding" beyond the idea of larger wages, and "better training" shouldn't just mean: better ways to beat the shit out of people.
Basically, start from renouncing the idea that a cop is merely a guard dog to capital interest.
This is a cultural shift that takes decades, anyway.

I don't like to generalize the idea of police brutality as just a global phenomenon, because it takes away from what is clearly a huge issue in the US in particular, but it is true to an extent that the position tends to attract a certain type of person ( ::)).
So that type of behavior is really what you should specifically look for, identify, and curtail as much as possible.

As an outside observer, this seems especially hard for the US, because it looks like a society particularly uncaring in structure (from work culture, to healthcare, bootstrap rhetorics, homelessness), but again, that's just the view from my distorted lens.

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« Reply #2080 on: June 05, 2020, 12:11:44 AM »


slime the police!  :rejoice
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« Reply #2081 on: June 05, 2020, 12:11:48 AM »
speaking of outsider perspective:

I have never seen a police force as ruthless as the Carabinieri. While the rgular police was mostly chill, the carabinieri pulled out their baton just for looking at them funny.

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« Reply #2083 on: June 05, 2020, 12:12:46 AM »
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« Reply #2085 on: June 05, 2020, 12:27:57 AM »
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Didn't they do this in 2016 as well, offering crocodile tears?

Then it turned out they were instigators

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« Reply #2086 on: June 05, 2020, 12:30:42 AM »
they've been roasting the U.S. over it's shitty treatment of Black people since like the 1800's
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« Reply #2087 on: June 05, 2020, 12:30:57 AM »
No I didn't.

No offense, but both Russia and China can also suck my dick.

they've been roasting the U.S. over it's shitty treatment of Black people since like the 1800's

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« Reply #2088 on: June 05, 2020, 12:33:40 AM »
No I didn't.

iOS giant dads like me can't see anything  :(

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« Reply #2089 on: June 05, 2020, 12:37:55 AM »
speaking of outsider perspective:

I have never seen a police force as ruthless as the Carabinieri. While the rgular police was mostly chill, the carabinieri pulled out their baton just for looking at them funny.
The raid on the Diaz had both Police and Caramba, and Celerini are police, so i wouldn't call either "chill"  :lol.
But the Carabinieri are a military force, so i guess that taints the expectations.
Although Cucchi's murder is still pretty fresh in everyone's mind.

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« Reply #2093 on: June 05, 2020, 12:49:43 AM »
brb registering @RussiaDimitri and @USAHank as my twitter handles

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« Reply #2094 on: June 05, 2020, 01:20:19 AM »
https://www.yahoo.com/news/peaceful-protesters-indiana-marched-armed-235502416.html

"gotta stand 'ere with mah death machine. Wut wut? It's muh right. Totally don't mean nothing by it. Nope"

The fuck man? Some people will never get it.

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« Reply #2095 on: June 05, 2020, 01:22:39 AM »
:stahp :lol

https://twitter.com/josh_wingrove/status/1268507783613341696

When you looked like a deranged moron and Piers Morgan seems smart and rational you've really lost your mind  :lol

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« Reply #2096 on: June 05, 2020, 01:47:45 AM »
Its so damn twisted how we treat elders in this society. God damn, makes me sick

Yeah I dont like this violence. Why couldnt we just let corona kill them like nature wanted.  >:(

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« Reply #2098 on: June 05, 2020, 02:02:05 AM »
lol cops might as well be aliens at this point wtf

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« Reply #2099 on: June 05, 2020, 05:11:24 AM »
That guy was suspended and not fired.  Why are these police departments holding onto these guys like they're senior level engineers at a tech company, too costly to replace.  They're cops.  Any idiot can be a cop.  How are they not soaking up the labor supply?  These are not important or talented people.
They want the sadists, because that's what police work is to them. If you can't put your knee on a restrained person's neck for 8 minutes, or tase an incapacitated person dozens of times, or watch emotionlessly as it happens in front of you, you're just not good police. Compassionate human beings are unfit for duty.