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[Snoopycat_]

New Years speculations on the shameful deeds Messy's overcompensating for?

Touching women's hair on the bus.

Rubbing cucumbers against himself in Aldi's

Getting drunk and giving his cousin a sloppy blow job

Filming women in his works toilets

Cruising for ladyboys in Tescos

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/did-you-have-sex-in-2021.533021/page-10

handful of times, yee.

With that avatar I'd hope so. 👀

The avatar

[Cauliflower Of Love]

they still have video stores

[Drainage]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/did-you-have-sex-in-2021.533021/page-10

handful of times, yee.

With that avatar I'd hope so. 👀

The avatar
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[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lindsay-ellis-appreciation-thread.147998/page-11#post-79516061

Pretty much. Back when this first blew up, I remember one of the main drivers of the whole thing being the fans of another Youtuber that hated Lindsay for...reasons...and they went out of their way to push the narrative way further than it originally needed to go just because they wanted to see her burn.

The sheer amount of just...mind-bogglingly weird, targeted hatred female creators get on Youtube, especially in nerd spaces, is harrowing. As someone who was subjected to an absolute micro-fraction of the kind of harassment Lindsay gets back when Gamergate was in full swing, it's enough to rip your fucking soul to shreds.

And prominent, outspoken women in these spaces have it several million orders of magnitude worse than I did.

[benjipwns]

Do you think they'll realize that a lot of these NOT CANCEL CULTURE incidents, including on their own forum, is the result of people with perceived personal problems with a target getting other people to wage their battles for them under the cover of fighting for social justice?

[Cauliflower Of Love]

cancel benji

[Cauliflower Of Love]

just kidding

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Era: "Man, yeah, its weird how women get targetted by these hate campaigns, look at all these chuds that are completely unrelated to us, nope, nothing we can do"

Also era: "LEMME BUMP JKR EATING FUCKING CRACKERS THREAD BECAUSE THERE WAS A NEWS ARTICLE ABOUT HER, OBLIGATORY FUCK JKR"


While they're all and about Lindsay Ellis and how it was all other people not them, lets repost the actual contemporary fucking era threads and look at some of those kneejerk hot-takes, shall we?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lindsay-ellis-drops-a-take-so-bad-she-has-to-nuke-her-twitter.400714/

OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATION
There is a discussion that could have been had here about cultural appropriation, about the offensive notion that "white people can do Asian culture better than Asians" and how that relates to ATLA and the way it is sometimes presented, and about whether the original Tweet is knowingly or unknowingly insensitive.

Ellis' response to the criticism however compounded the original controversy and is making that discussion impossible to have in this context. At best, the "squint" line was a genuine mistake that has now become the main subject of debate. At worst, it was racist trolling. Either way it is not producing good discussion and so the thread will not be reopened.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lindsay-ellis-mask-off.410499/

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Do you think they'll realize that a lot of these NOT CANCEL CULTURE incidents, including on their own forum, is the result of people with perceived personal problems with a target getting other people to wage their battles for them under the cover of fighting for social justice?

I mean... PlanetSmasher has 10 years of professional comedy training and still doesn't understand what being funny is, sooooo......

[HaughtyFrank]

Love how they point the fingers at others. What should be some food for thought for them is that Ellis never quit despite Kiwi farms having entire portfolios about her, digging up old arrest records and shit like that, no, what made her quit was when all the "progressives" like Resetera went after her

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Love how they point the fingers at others. What should be some food for thought for them is that Ellis never quit despite Kiwi farms having entire portfolios about her, digging up old arrest records and shit like that, no, what made her quit was when all the "progressives" like Resetera went after her

Eras Officially Staff Endorsed Correct Opinion To Hold - as stated in their lock message at the time - was that it was all her fault and how she should have Do Better in her response.

[benjipwns]

Is it us who were wrong? No, no, it's the chuds like always.

[Mostima]

Ree isn't self-reflecting because ever since gamergate, they think the internet is full of internet boogeymen that spam death and rape threats everyday to women. No matter how shitty Ree acts, they'll always think most people online are worse than they are. It's why they're still on a forum where everybody is openly hostile to each other, and constantly trying to get each other banned.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://doesthendnlive.tumblr.com/post/616065697387364352/p-hi-would-you-like-to-explain-why-lindsay-ellis

hi! would you like to explain why lindsay ellis is problematic? i'm genuinely not trying to be agressive, i'm a fan of hers and i want to be aware of the content i'm consuming! thanks!

I would provide receipts but she deletes tweets and I really don’t care to give her videos views, so if you know the videos and tweets I’m talking about you can find them for yourself if you like and use your best judgment. I used to enjoy how she put film theory/analysis into an accessible YT video format with a left-leaning lens. But around 2 years ago, either I started waking up or her takes started getting worse.

The first red flag was the “I’m Sorry St*phenie M*yer” video. Her thesis was Tw*light Wasn’t Bad Actually We Were All Just Misogynistic to Teen Girls. To be fair, a lot of the contemporaneous pushback was based in misogyny. But in the video there was little to no acknowledgment of the extremely troubling issues that PLAGUE the series (100 year age gap, abuse, Jacob/R*nesmee messiness, blatant anti black and anti Native racism, sexism, homophobia etc). To this obtusely privileged and self-important take, a bunch of POC of course said DO NOT CITE THE DEEP MAGIC TO ME WITCH I WAS THERE WHEN IT WAS WRITTEN because we have *been* saying for years that the books are fucking wack.

She later tried to backpedal by saying she didn’t feel comfortable speaking over Native and black critics by going into the Quileutes, Laurent, the Confederate propaganda etc, but that excuse just seems hm inch resting considering the fact that she made a whole other video essay on indigenous rep in Pocahontas AND Moana using arguments previously made by POC. So we thoroughly have Lindsey and her huge platform to thank for this edgy white feminist Tw*light Wasn’t Bad You’re Sexist Renaissance that’s been going on for 2 years and she won’t even take responsibility.

After that was the post-GOT video, which I haven’t watched but have heard about. To my understanding she also rolls over the colonialism in Dany’s storyline and blames a lot of shit on Starks being “xenophobic” and “isolationist” despite tweeting super positively about the show’s horrendous writing throughout the final season until Dany burned King’s Landing. Anyway I won’t get into it because I just don’t think it’s fair for me to do so without having watched, but it’s takes like these that have rendered me unable to take Dany stans seriously since like 2017. Then there was also the “Woke Disney” video decrying Disney’s attempts at diversity, which suspiciously popped up around the time that Halle Bailey was cast as the first black live action princess.

The latest fuckery was her and Jenny N*cholson claiming all sorts of, again, obtusely privileged and blatantly untrue nonsense in support of R***o, such as that most women who like and create content for SW are R***os, that R***o hate is rooted in misogyny, that R***os aren’t racist, that Finnreys are part of the “alt left,” that John Boyega cyberbullies R***os…. And finally, she thought it would be funny to tweet about how she wanted to read R***o-themed fic about Harriet Tubman and the master she escaped from. TL;DR, generally I find it very suspect that this woman who cultivated her platform around media literacy only seems to believe in it when it’s convenient for her, and she uses “woke” and “witty” language to present lukewarm/bad and self-contradictory takes as whip-smart feminism and media commentary.

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asterisking completely random words like reylo 

bemoaning her deeply problematic takes on game of fucking thrones while saying "oh by the way I didn't even watch it"

I think post also somewhat encapsulates how "progressives" online do criticism. I kind of wonder how often an argument about "I like/don't like thing" is equated with misogyny, white feminism etc. just to give their argument more weight, with the bonus that you get to shut up counterarguments solely based on identity. I don't mean to say that all media criticism that highlights problematic elements does this, cause after all there can be legit issues, but it feels like this is the only way people can give any weight to their arguments in these tumblr feuds, like in this case, where thinking that Lindsay's media essays are bad isn't enough, it needs to reveal she's a secret racist

[benjipwns]

Ree isn't self-reflecting because ever since gamergate, they think the internet is full of internet boogeymen that spam death and rape threats everyday to women.

So you're denying that Gamergate changed everything? Way to side with Gamergate in the permanent existential struggle, chud.

[Uncle]

Love how they point the fingers at others. What should be some food for thought for them is that Ellis never quit despite Kiwi farms having entire portfolios about her, digging up old arrest records and shit like that, no, what made her quit was when all the "progressives" like Resetera went after her

never really thought about this before

it's kinda true, people never quit anything because personal details are revealed, they quit when they're unable to express themselves and their opinions

no youtuber has ever been like "I'm making millions a year, have a massive audience, but somebody found out where I live and that I was once arrested for public drunkenness and I cannot deal with that being public so I must stop now, goodbye"

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lindsay-ellis-appreciation-thread.147998/page-11#post-79516061

Pretty much. Back when this first blew up, I remember one of the main drivers of the whole thing being the fans of another Youtuber that hated Lindsay for...reasons...and they went out of their way to push the narrative way further than it originally needed to go just because they wanted to see her burn.

The sheer amount of just...mind-bogglingly weird, targeted hatred female creators get on Youtube, especially in nerd spaces, is harrowing. As someone who was subjected to an absolute micro-fraction of the kind of harassment Lindsay gets back when Gamergate was in full swing, it's enough to rip your fucking soul to shreds.

And prominent, outspoken women in these spaces have it several million orders of magnitude worse than I did.

than I did.

What, users calling him out on being a fake gamer?

[BIONIC]

Y'all deadass bumped this thread just to cape for this problematic white women got me cackling lmfao.

People will contort themselves into intellectual pretzels to defend their favourite YouTuber. Even dismissing the very real and genuine concerns of the Asian community. Some of the posts in this thread are just sad.

You all continuing to just ignore what Asian folks in here have said was the issue along with her comparing herself to Isabell Falls like that was going to make things any better. 🥴

The second people like yall stop using bad-faith harassment to defend good-faith criticism, the faster we can move on with embarrassing discussions like these.

Her quitting for threats she has received is valid and fair but the way yall fall over yourselves looking goofy offending marginalized groups of people is hustling backwards.

[benjipwns]

PlanetSmasher faced the horrible harassment of being mentioned by someone on a subreddit for a video game and being called an idiot.

[clothedmacuser]

Let's imagine how this thread would have gone a month ago.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lindsay-ellis-appreciation-thread.147998/post-79503998

As an Asian who dislikes the squinty eye crap I got from others, you would have to look at her post in the highest possible form of bad faith to take that conclusion about it. The only thing wrong she did was the bad timing of a common turn of the phrase. But it's so not a big freaking deal when it's so obvious the racist stuff is not what she is not doing.

So you are saying asians can't be racist to other asians?


https://www.resetera.com/threads/lindsay-ellis-appreciation-thread.147998/post-79504262

People saying she didn't apologize didn't like, actually watch the whole video right? Since she eventually also addresses all those demands that she apologize and that she didn't apologize right or in the correct manner? Several times?

But she only apologized when she got caught.  And why did she take so long?  She should have done it sooner.  It also wasn't a real apology.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lindsay-ellis-appreciation-thread.147998/post-79504340

Of course, severity of the transgression should be considered. Someone using a stupid phrase is a little different than, I dunno, calling for shooting migrants at the border or saying Jews won't replace you or actually doing heinous acts in real life.

There is no such thing as "a little racism."  Racism is racism.

Treat people how you expect to be treated, and maybe don't be so surprised that you get clapped back at when you act like an asshole. Your progressive stances are not a pass for being a dick.

So, "both sides," are bad?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lindsay-ellis-appreciation-thread.147998/post-79506251

And the same with the follow up "if you squint" tweet. It's a super common turn of phrase that has no racial connotations other than that in one of its many contexts that word can be used as a racial slur. this is not like someone attempting to slyly drop the n-word into a sentence a word that really only has one context and one use. This is like me talking about Mr Brains Pork F-words or smoking a F-word (UK slang for cigarette) and bring told I'm homophobic for using that word despite the context having nothing to do with that.

Context doesn't matter!  Also calling smokes fegs should be changed and England knows that.  It's a global (read;American) world and we all (other cultures) need to adjust.

[I'm honestly surprised that guy didn't get banned]

As a person who has to wear glasses, and literally has to squint to see things if I don't wear them, I never saw the problem for this phrase because I use it so frequently. I was so confused why people were upset.

Wow!  Comparing poor eyesight to race?  You can just wear contacts.  I have to LIVE with it.

I’m Asian and I know ZERO Asians who got beef with Lindsey.

My [insert race here] friend said it's ok!

This idiot trying to defend the harrasement
https://www.resetera.com/threads/lindsay-ellis-appreciation-thread.147998/post-79511393

Not going to say its easy to do, but I will say its easy to throw out a ‘My bad if you took it that way’ in a tweet as opposed to that unfortunate squint line.

So, I'm sorry you were offended.

So what did I learn? Step out of line in a relatively minor way and regardless of your past good deeds, you get harassed for months and chased out of your job.

What is so hard about "staying in your lane?"

[Tripon]

Let's imagine how this thread would have gone a month ago.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lindsay-ellis-appreciation-thread.147998/post-79503998

As an Asian who dislikes the squinty eye crap I got from others, you would have to look at her post in the highest possible form of bad faith to take that conclusion about it. The only thing wrong she did was the bad timing of a common turn of the phrase. But it's so not a big freaking deal when it's so obvious the racist stuff is not what she is not doing.

So you are saying asians can't be racist to other asians?

Asians can totally be racist to another asians, lmao. We're all judgey towards each other.


Also, is Ree still racist towards Asians? That staff totally bought into the model minority stereotype.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lindsay-ellis-appreciation-thread.147998/post-79511393

Not going to say its easy to do, but I will say its easy to throw out a ‘My bad if you took it that way’ in a tweet as opposed to that unfortunate squint line.

Yes, victim blaming would have been a better stance than trying to debate the subject funny enough.

[clothedmacuser]

I'm temp locking this. I'll be back in roughly an hour to help sort all this since I got stuff to do.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/lindsay-ellis-appreciation-thread.147998/post-79527233

 

[Taco Bell Tower]

B-Dubs in that thread about to pull a Cerium

I'm temp locking this. I'll be back in roughly an hour to help sort all this since I got stuff to do.

[benjipwns]

I hope the mods crack down on everyone who supported the right-wing lies about "cancel culture" being real. Lindsay Ellis is not a victim because look at her Patreon since she announced she's no longer making content:

[Propagandhim]

Is that a payout per piece of content or monthly?   I need this info to assess how not real her cancellation is.

[Lonewulfeus]

Nobody with an avatar from a show made by a pedophile has the right to judge anyone else.

 

[benjipwns]

Is that a payout per piece of content or monthly?   I need this info to assess how not real her cancellation is.

It's the total number of patrons. The sharp dip at the end of every month are those who only commit to one month/payment.

Patreon doesn't require you to produce content, you can find lots of accounts that get paid simply to exist.

Remember to donate to my Patreon to further the cause of social justice against capitalism and colonialism.

[Uncle]

Nobody with an avatar from a show made by a pedophile has the right to judge anyone else.

 

no one who has an avatar that was drawn by an artist who is a known associate of another artist who once liked a tweet that defended Louis C.K. has the right to judge anyone else

[Taco Bell Tower]

Nobody with an avatar from a show made by a pedophile has the right to judge anyone else.

 

Mods try to interject and have it backfire in their face during the course of the thread

After that post B-Dubs closed the thread lol

[Boredfrom]

Nobody with an avatar from a show made by a pedophile has the right to judge anyone else.

 

People still mad about that character in Maid Dragon?

[benjipwns]

User Banned (1 Month): Dismissive Commentary Around Transphobia

Hi boys, quick reminder: Cyberpunk‘s still a piece of transphobic propaganda.

There are depictions of transphobic and misogynistic advertisements in the game world, which is presented as a dystopia, so I don't know that I would call the game itself "transphobic propaganda." There's even a trans character in the game whose portrayal seemed rather positive iirc.

I know some of the promotional marketing was problematic in how it glamorized these in-game ads that fetishize trans bodies, but I am talking strictly about the in-game experience, which, given the benefit of the doubt, struck me as depicting rather than endorsing trans fetishization. But perhaps there's more insidious content or messaging that went over my head?

[nobody of note]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lindsay-ellis-appreciation-thread.147998/page-13#post-79527233
OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATION

So, this is a complicated topic from an intersectional perspective.

It is clear that Lindsay Ellis did offend many Asian people with her remarks last summer and has not really ever properly apologized for what she said. She is in the wrong for this.

At the same time, it is also clear that not all of the outrage has come from Asian people or even in good faith. There were more than a handful of people who seized the opportunity to act on unrelated vendettas and/or drive a prominent woman off of the internet. This is reminiscent of past harassment campaigns targeting public figures.

Both of these things are true and that's what makes the situation complicated and constructive discussion difficult.

So, here is how this thread is going to go:

1) We're going to stop speaking for groups that we are not a part of. If you aren't a women then stop presuming to speak for women members, if you aren't Asian stop presuming to speak for Asian members. The discussion is hot enough without people trying to appropriate minority points of view to support their own argument.

2) We're going to stop throwing inflammatory bombs and speaking authoritatively. All that does is make an important conversation harder to have. Do your part to keep the conversation constructive rather than trying to blow it up.

3) We're going to stop dismissing any of what happened. Both women and Asian members have legitimate concerns, both deserve to be heard, and there isn't going to be any pretending otherwise.

Anyone who cannot follow these rules is getting banned.

Anyone in the thread already who has only been throwing bombs has been threadbanned.

We clear?

My eternal Era staff question recurs: How are they so bad at this?

[Lonewulfeus]

I guess their online BAC monitor got an update to include race and gender!  Resetera is now like Jeopardy but instead of giving your answer in the form of a question your post must now begin with your gender, ethnicity, race, and sexual orientation to be sure you are arguing in good faith.  When challenged you must doxx yourself to the mods even further to assure them you are what you say you are.  Call it the Enzom rule perhaps?

[Propagandhim]

User Banned (1 Month): Dismissive Commentary Around Transphobia

Hi boys, quick reminder: Cyberpunk‘s still a piece of transphobic propaganda.

There are depictions of transphobic and misogynistic advertisements in the game world, which is presented as a dystopia, so I don't know that I would call the game itself "transphobic propaganda." There's even a trans character in the game whose portrayal seemed rather positive iirc.

I know some of the promotional marketing was problematic in how it glamorized these in-game ads that fetishize trans bodies, but I am talking strictly about the in-game experience, which, given the benefit of the doubt, struck me as depicting rather than endorsing trans fetishization. But perhaps there's more insidious content or messaging that went over my head?

Cast that rod, catch that fish.

[VomKriege]

1) We're going to stop speaking for groups that we are not a part of
2) We're going to stop throwing inflammatory bombs and speaking authoritatively
3) We're going to stop dismissing any of what happened

Isn't ERA supposedly founded on those general assumptions ?
 

[Uncle]

I guess their online BAC monitor got an update to include race and gender!  Resetera is now like Jeopardy but instead of giving your answer in the form of a question your post must now begin with your gender, ethnicity, race, and sexual orientation to be sure you are arguing in good faith.  When challenged you must doxx yourself to the mods even further to assure them you are what you say you are.  Call it the Enzom rule perhaps?

all era posts now:

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lindsay-ellis-appreciation-thread.147998/page-13#post-79527233
OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATION

So, this is a complicated topic from an intersectional perspective.

It is clear that Lindsay Ellis did offend many Asian people with her remarks last summer and has not really ever properly apologized for what she said. She is in the wrong for this.

At the same time, it is also clear that not all of the outrage has come from Asian people or even in good faith. There were more than a handful of people who seized the opportunity to act on unrelated vendettas and/or drive a prominent woman off of the internet. This is reminiscent of past harassment campaigns targeting public figures.

Both of these things are true and that's what makes the situation complicated and constructive discussion difficult.

So, here is how this thread is going to go:

1) We're going to stop speaking for groups that we are not a part of. If you aren't a women then stop presuming to speak for women members, if you aren't Asian stop presuming to speak for Asian members. The discussion is hot enough without people trying to appropriate minority points of view to support their own argument.

2) We're going to stop throwing inflammatory bombs and speaking authoritatively. All that does is make an important conversation harder to have. Do your part to keep the conversation constructive rather than trying to blow it up.

3) We're going to stop dismissing any of what happened. Both women and Asian members have legitimate concerns, both deserve to be heard, and there isn't going to be any pretending otherwise.

Anyone who cannot follow these rules is getting banned.

Anyone in the thread already who has only been throwing bombs has been threadbanned.

We clear?

My eternal Era staff question recurs: How are they so bad at this?

No more discussion, on this discussion forum!

[Lonewulfeus]

I guess their online BAC monitor got an update to include race and gender!  Resetera is now like Jeopardy but instead of giving your answer in the form of a question your post must now begin with your gender, ethnicity, race, and sexual orientation to be sure you are arguing in good faith.  When challenged you must doxx yourself to the mods even further to assure them you are what you say you are.  Call it the Enzom rule perhaps?

all era posts now:

Close but too normal I think.  It would be more like “As a Latinx genderqueer poly ace system including a furry and an otherkin I think this post is harmful to one or more of my personalities and this is why I am leaving in droves”

[nobody of note]

1) We're going to stop speaking for groups that we are not a part of
2) We're going to stop throwing inflammatory bombs and speaking authoritatively
3) We're going to stop dismissing any of what happened

Isn't ERA supposedly founded on those general assumptions ?
 

2) We're going to stop throwing inflammatory bombs and speaking authoritatively

literally in his same post:

It is clear that Lindsay Ellis did offend many Asian people with her remarks last summer and has not really ever properly apologized for what she said. She is in the wrong for this.

rules only apply to the unwashed masses

[Taco Bell Tower]

Huh, surprised B-Dubs kept his word.  Thought it would get sent to the graveyard 

[Raist]

W...why are they describing their clothes and hair wtf.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-it-possible-to-pay-a-compliment-based-on-looks-to-stranger-without-sounding-creepy.533849/#post-79528316

Nope. Every time someone has complimented me on my appearance I've felt so gross it dominated my thought process for the rest of the day.

[Uncle]

is it clear that she offended many asian people?

or is it more likely that it was

• a bunch of whites saying "oh boy not a good look sweaty"
• asians saying "I'm terribly offended" when they weren't at all and just loved having the opportunity to mob a popular white girl

[Uncle]

W...why are they describing their clothes and hair wtf.

if you're blind but not ABAB (assigned blind at birth) and listening to the video, you will be able to visualize the speakers in your head which studies have shown leads to comfy thoughts 

[Propagandhim]

It is clear that Lindsay Ellis did offend many Asian people with her remarks last summer and has not really ever properly apologized for what she said. She is in the wrong for this.

Still laughing that all of this is from this.   

 

[benjipwns]

2) We're going to stop throwing inflammatory bombs and speaking authoritatively

literally in his same post:

It is clear that Lindsay Ellis did offend many Asian people with her remarks last summer and has not really ever properly apologized for what she said. She is in the wrong for this.

rules only apply to the unwashed masses

Also:

We're going to stop dismissing any of what happened. Both women and Asian members have legitimate concerns

These "legitimate concerns" are that comparing two childrens movies for being derivative were a form of anti-Asian hate.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

Where is Nepenthe? She should be there adding to the chaos.

[BisMarckie]

Celebrating New Years Eve today is an expression of sinophobia.

Please fund my research cultural studies department, thx.

[BisMarckie]

Happy new year you twats

[Potato]

2) We're going to stop throwing inflammatory bombs and speaking authoritatively

literally in his same post:

It is clear that Lindsay Ellis did offend many Asian people with her remarks last summer and has not really ever properly apologized for what she said. She is in the wrong for this.

rules only apply to the unwashed masses

Also:

We're going to stop dismissing any of what happened. Both women and Asian members have legitimate concerns

These "legitimate concerns" are that comparing two childrens movies for being derivative were a form of anti-Asian hate.

We all know it has nothing to do with criticism of the movies, but rather criticism of the company that produced them

[HaughtyFrank]

2) We're going to stop throwing inflammatory bombs and speaking authoritatively

literally in his same post:

It is clear that Lindsay Ellis did offend many Asian people with her remarks last summer and has not really ever properly apologized for what she said. She is in the wrong for this.

rules only apply to the unwashed masses

Also:

We're going to stop dismissing any of what happened. Both women and Asian members have legitimate concerns

These "legitimate concerns" are that comparing two childrens movies for being derivative were a form of anti-Asian hate.

Amazing how apparently the only defense Lindsay has going for herself is that she's a woman.

[benjipwns]

The only person they seem to have banned so far is usual voice of reason and former staff member Matt:

User Banned (1 week): dismissive commentary

The initial bit about comparing Raya to Avatar rubbed some people, who happen to be Asian, the wrong way, but that wasn't anything horrible. Her reply to the people who raised those objections had the line "if you squint"...

It’s initially hard to take anyone seriously that doesn’t see that as simply a poor choice of phrase in context (which she acknowledged). It obviously wasn’t intentional or malicious, and turning it into something else feels like a great example of a bad-faith argument.

But then again, I suppose if you already are inclined to view her as a secret racist, or are unfamiliar with her or her work, it’s hard to distinguish the good actors from the bad ones.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lindsay-ellis-appreciation-thread.147998/page-11#post-79518188

User Banned (1 week): thread derail

Y'all deadass bumped this thread just to cape for this problematic white women got me cackling lmfao.

Edit:
https://www.resetera.com/threads/lindsay-ellis-appreciation-thread.147998/page-13#post-79534751

User Banned (1 month): dismissive commentary, ignoring the staff post

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lindsay-ellis-appreciation-thread.147998/page-13#post-79537352

User Banned (1 month): dismissive commentary, ignoring the staff post

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lindsay-ellis-appreciation-thread.147998/page-13#post-79538132

User Banned (1 month): dismissive commentary, ignoring the staff post

[Drainage]

Where is Nepenthe? She should be there adding to the chaos.

Holding out for her cut of the $1 million

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lindsay-ellis-appreciation-thread.147998/page-13#post-79537352

User Banned (1 month): dismissive commentary, ignoring the staff post

If I complained that every kdrama that was popular outside of Korea (or in the English speaking world) after this year was just a "Squid Game derivative," I'd be very wrong.

The works in question are not Asian; they're Western works mostly made by white people which take a lot of things from Asian mythology. So this comparison doesn't work because it's more like if multiple Western directors started making works obviously inspired by Squid Game and having similar plots.

I haven't seen much of Raya so I can't say how close the Avatar comparison is, but it's still being overlooked that the works in question were never "Asian" in the first place.

Quiet now.

[Propagandhim]

"Dismissive commentary" on this stupidity is actually the only correct commentary

[clothedmacuser]

Fox News is reporting DeSantis's absence was due to him accompanying his wife's cancer treatments. I mean, that's all well and good, but for that long...?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gov-desantis-hasnt-been-seen-since-dec-17th-his-twitter-keeps-posting-pics-of-him-from-two-weeks-ago-spox-says-hes-taking-time-off.533696/post-79537829

 

[Boredfrom]

DeSantis is a snake, though. It will not be surprising if it was a lie.