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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10620 on: January 02, 2022, 02:42:01 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/bitcoins-power-usage-in-2021-roughly-doubled-from-last-year.534431/

Fun thread.

Don’t point out how much energy is pointlessly wasted on things like gaming though, because reasons.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10621 on: January 02, 2022, 03:12:57 PM »
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There's a super puritanical surge in 20-30something male culture at the moment.
I'm sure there's an origin line to Joe Rogan lol.

time to add "not getting drunk" to the list of alt-right flags along with 'reading' and 'knowing the names of pieces of classical music'

Hi.  My name is David.  I'm an alcoholic and I haven't had a drink in two yea . . .

"whatever you Alt-Right, Rogen youtube subscriber and NYT reader,"

Rest of group looks at freak
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10622 on: January 02, 2022, 03:17:55 PM »
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Repeat with me:

"The Matrix saga wouldn't exist without trans people. The Matrix, its concept and its story have a big, on-your-face trans allegory that existed and has always been there since the movie was released, whether I like it or not."
The trans allegory didn't appear in some internet back alley. The allegory is there, in every facet that concerns the movie, from the protagonist himself to the concept of the Matrix itself.

cool, they gonna start talking about things that wouldn't exist without straight people, cis people, white people?
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10623 on: January 02, 2022, 03:18:27 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/bitcoins-power-usage-in-2021-roughly-doubled-from-last-year.534431/
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which is frightening as someone who already lost their home to global warming and almost died to it last year.
what

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Proof of work needs to be outlawed internationally like CFCs we're. Straight up.
"The NSA liked this!"

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Just a few more decades, folks. Then we will all be dead from ruining the planet so it won't matter.
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It's an inditement of our entire flawed approach to global emissions. We are trying to get to 0, but only using addition (new renewable energy production) instead of subtraction (degrowth + smash the most polluting legacy energy production). It will never work.
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The more everything shifts to blockchain, the more I want to see a Carrington level event wipe out every computer on the planet.
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In case you're wondering why a particular user is trying to downplay the energy usage of Bitcoin, a casual reminder that he's a climate change denier.
this should've been a fucking perma, they clearly haven't learned from it and don't care at all

absolutely disgusting behavior
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The earth has been way hotter than it is right now
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Also compared to the past 500 million years CO2 has been very low in recent times. Us focusing on only the change in the past 200 years is like us focusing on the last few seconds of the past year. Is CO2 increasing, yes, is temperature increasing, yes. Has this happened in the past, yes. We will adapt as a species as we always do and we will be better off spending time and effort on adapting to these changes than trying to stop them. CO2 is one of a thousand different variables.

https://earth.org/data_visualization/a-brief-history-of-co2/
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lol wanting a perma ban for citing scientific facts

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10624 on: January 02, 2022, 03:45:32 PM »
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Lana and Lilly must be directors or at least producers (so that they can oversee) of everything regarding The Matrix. The Matrix universe isn't born, understood, or good enough without the queer and trans people who made it happen.

I liked Resurrections. It felt very much like a chapter closing in a very in your face way, which I think the trans community deserves (because no, Matrix isn't for incels, transphobes, homophobes or haters that feel cool about hating minorities) to have. Matrix is trans media. Full stop.

Would love to see both sisters directing+writing a TV show of Bugs crew for HBO, however. Really liked those new characters! :D
You’re so wrong on so many things but whatever, everyone can make a Matrix movie and WB will probably do another one without Lana even if I wish she’ll stay and bring back her sister for the next one, no one is irremplaçable
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Bruh, stop trying to downplay that the Matrix is a trans film made by trans women.

Like just because WB has the power to do it, doesn't mean they should. Why the fuck should we just sit down and accept a worst-case scenario because it could happen?
I’m downplaying nothing, the movie was made by trans people then what ? Matrix is about humans fighting robots like many science fiction movies, trans allegory we’re theories for years until Lana said it was ok and she even said that she wasn’t sure how much of her transness played a role in the writing of the movie, that’s just how it is.

How many people who watched Matrix could tell without searching on the internet that is trans media ? Like seriously ? I don’t mind trans people to care about this series, I understand why and I support them but saying Matrix is only a trans media that need trans people for it to be good or existed is wrong on many levels.
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I'm not downplaying, proceeds to downplay.

I care about trans people's opinions, don't care about trans people's opinions

You "don't mind" that trans people claim this series as trans media, like you have some authority about what is and what is not trans media.

I corrected you on this and yet you still misattribute the quote.

I'm done.
Yeah whatever, believe what you want 😉


There is a scene in the new movie where Neo's development team try to capture what made the og matrix so good.

One says it’s all about “guns” and “bullet time”, the spectacular VFX success from the first film in 1999. Another says it’s “mind porn… philosophy in shiny, tight PVC”. Others say Matrix is about “trans politics”, “crypto-fascism”, “capitalist exploitation”. When someone says reboots are uncool, another points out that reboots sell. Meanwhile, a despondent Neo is seen privately struggling to figure out whether this is all there is to reality.

https://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/hollywood/what-the-matrix-resurrections-is-telling-us-there-is-no-hope-for-humanity-101640244166128.html


This guy says the same thing the movie says.  A thing anyone would say, it's up to the viewer to interpret it.  And they ban him!

Fucking Wank Dad's all around. 
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10625 on: January 02, 2022, 03:51:01 PM »
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Good for him. Sounds like he's an asshole, but also that he (like a lot of professional athletes) would've been better off jumping ship years ago.


How many millions did the guy already have? I don't follow sports, but a quick glance at Wikipedia shows he made plenty. He's not going to miss a million.

Don't let the next paycheck keep you in a cage. Dude clearly needs to get out of the game more than he needs another million


https://www.resetera.com/threads/antonio-brown-quits-bucs-with-game-in-progress.534497/#post-79609433

Woke sperging just for the sake of it.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10626 on: January 02, 2022, 03:51:55 PM »
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Lana and Lilly must be directors or at least producers (so that they can oversee) of everything regarding The Matrix. The Matrix universe isn't born, understood, or good enough without the queer and trans people who made it happen.

I liked Resurrections. It felt very much like a chapter closing in a very in your face way, which I think the trans community deserves (because no, Matrix isn't for incels, transphobes, homophobes or haters that feel cool about hating minorities) to have. Matrix is trans media. Full stop.

Would love to see both sisters directing+writing a TV show of Bugs crew for HBO, however. Really liked those new characters! :D
You’re so wrong on so many things but whatever, everyone can make a Matrix movie and WB will probably do another one without Lana even if I wish she’ll stay and bring back her sister for the next one, no one is irremplaçable
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Bruh, stop trying to downplay that the Matrix is a trans film made by trans women.

Like just because WB has the power to do it, doesn't mean they should. Why the fuck should we just sit down and accept a worst-case scenario because it could happen?
I’m downplaying nothing, the movie was made by trans people then what ? Matrix is about humans fighting robots like many science fiction movies, trans allegory we’re theories for years until Lana said it was ok and she even said that she wasn’t sure how much of her transness played a role in the writing of the movie, that’s just how it is.

How many people who watched Matrix could tell without searching on the internet that is trans media ? Like seriously ? I don’t mind trans people to care about this series, I understand why and I support them but saying Matrix is only a trans media that need trans people for it to be good or existed is wrong on many levels.
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I'm not downplaying, proceeds to downplay.

I care about trans people's opinions, don't care about trans people's opinions

You "don't mind" that trans people claim this series as trans media, like you have some authority about what is and what is not trans media.

I corrected you on this and yet you still misattribute the quote.

I'm done.
Yeah whatever, believe what you want 😉

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Yeah whatever, believe what you want 😉
It's not about belief lol. It's a basic fact that The Matrix is trans media, wouldn't exist without the transness of the creators and is inseparable from the trans themes that permeate it.
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Yeah whatever, believe what you want 😉
Respectively, shut up. The world would be a better place without your empty lip service towards the trans community.

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The suggestions in this thread are embarrassing.

How do we make the Matrix better? By bring in a bunch of cis white men.

Maybe, just maybe, the Matrix was not made for you. That's fine -- you can like things where you aren't the target demographic. But to argue that the one big-budget queer/trans franchise anywhere in Western entertainment needs to be fixed by a bunch of straight white dudes...just embaressing
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Like we got so many shit-ass threads about Wander having a different face in the Shadow of the Colossus remake and so many people just don't care about trans themes in The Matrix.
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But-- but if they bring in James Wan, he could have Trinity throw a chair at someone!

And that really is what The Matrix is all about. Creating short clips for internet memes!

...Trans allegory? Pssh! Whatever!
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Repeat with me:

"The Matrix saga wouldn't exist without trans people. The Matrix, its concept and its story have a big, on-your-face trans allegory that existed and has always been there since the movie was released, whether I like it or not."
The trans allegory didn't appear in some internet back alley. The allegory is there, in every facet that concerns the movie, from the protagonist himself to the concept of the Matrix itself.
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You literally have a trans woman saying that because of the first film she had the brave to come out in this thread.


I literally wrote fanfiction about me changing my body based on me trying to be like Trinity. Like just cuz we didn't have the verbiage to explain how we connected to the movie in that way, doesn't mean we didn't connect to that movie in that particular way.
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The fucking nerve that we did not realize that this film is speaking to us until decades after is insulting.

Like, I don't give two shits about some one who's not trans blanking on the experience. It's not for you, fuck off.
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Like fuck, stop pontificating on your brass stool and listen to people.
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I just want to say a lot of people who are trans literally just don't know they are trans until one day they know they are.

Of course, the Wachowskis coming out would cause fans who connected with it originally to re-evaluate why they connected it so.

Like it's not like the Wachowskis coming revealed some hidden puzzle piece to complete the picture, it's like someone finally realized how to shift their eye enough to see the giraffer that's been on the page the whole time.

Meanwhile, all the "themes" of The Matrix suck, have always sucked, and continue to suck. Herp derp, replacing statements with koans is so deeeeeeep.

And so, all of a sudden, art was all about the author's intent!  :doge

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10627 on: January 02, 2022, 04:02:57 PM »

And so, all of a sudden, art was all about the author's intent!  :doge

They are so close to either that or declaring that Lana Wachaowski doesn't know the "real" trans experience.  Like I posted above, in the movie they say there is broad interpretation to what the matrix means to people.  Now Era is Gatekeeping all other meanings besides trans?  What bizzaro reverse forced PC shit is this.

I know, I know.  Trans people get tons of shit put on them.  Any decent person can see that and give support for them.  But on Era?  Yikes.  It's this.



I mean, how and why do trans or black people even want to be a part of Era?  Are Nep and Excel so excluded from their own normal network groups that they have to go to Era?
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10628 on: January 02, 2022, 04:06:49 PM »
Hey, to me, art is inherently about personal interpretation, but it wasn't long ago that they were going off about "author intent" not having any weight, and harmful art being rightfully interpreted in the least charitable way.
As usual, depends a bit on the wind's direction with these things.  :doge

Also to claim that only a trans person could understand the idea of harboring a different persona inside oneself, is hilarious.  :lol

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10629 on: January 02, 2022, 04:16:04 PM »
if the matrix 4 is an extremely trans film then we must question the choice of casting neil patrick harris, a notoriously gay individual, as the film's antagonist

if everything about matrix 4 exudes "trans-ness," then we must conclude that there is a latent mistrust or hatred of gay people lying at the heart of the trans experience
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10630 on: January 02, 2022, 04:21:28 PM »
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Repeat with me:

"The Matrix saga wouldn't exist without trans people. The Matrix, its concept and its story have a big, on-your-face trans allegory that existed and has always been there since the movie was released, whether I like it or not."
The trans allegory didn't appear in some internet back alley. The allegory is there, in every facet that concerns the movie, from the protagonist himself to the concept of the Matrix itself.

cool, they gonna start talking about things that wouldn't exist without [...] white people?

Yeah like that sci-fi flick.

What was it again?



Ah yeah, the Matrix.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10631 on: January 02, 2022, 04:34:56 PM »
if the matrix 4 is an extremely trans film then we must question the choice of casting neil patrick harris, a notoriously gay individual, as the film's antagonist

if everything about matrix 4 exudes "trans-ness," then we must conclude that there is a latent mistrust or hatred of gay people lying at the heart of the trans experience
The inherent transness of not casting any trans people or having any trans characters across four films.

Yeah like that sci-fi flick.

What was it again?



Ah yeah, the Matrix.
Indeed. None of the threads have grappled with the inherent anti-Blackness of Lana Wachowski's hair choices at the premiere for the film.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10632 on: January 02, 2022, 04:35:23 PM »
Not to downplay how mentally distinguished reeeee are, but in the original Matrix movie, the character Switch was supposed to be one gender in the matrix and another in the real world. They didn't follow through with it because they thought it would confuse the audience.

That still wouldn't justify their gatekeeping spergfest.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10633 on: January 02, 2022, 04:38:43 PM »
Not to downplay how mentally distinguished reeeee are, but in the original Matrix movie, the character Switch was supposed to be one gender in the matrix and another in the real world. They didn't follow through with it because they thought it would confuse the audience.

That still wouldn't justify their gatekeeping spergfest.

this is why lily was like "no thanks"

Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10634 on: January 02, 2022, 05:03:37 PM »
I'm happy for the Wachowskis being able to create things related to their struggles and I'm also happy for the trans people that could identify with it, but trying to gatekeep everyone else out from a 20 year old global phenomenon that wasn't even confirmed to be a trans metaphor until 2020 is a bit annoying. "It's not for you" is dumb as hell and shows a remarkable level of ignorance with how people engage with media.  People aren't zeroing in on individual factors that are irrelevant to them for mass-appeal media.  Hell, I remember when the discourse was "yo, it's live action Ghost in the Shell!", and even that was a niche discussion compared to the "haha, funny man dodge bullet in slow motion by leaning backwards" shit that everyone in Hollywood tried to parody at least once.  People aren't thinking this much about lowest common denominator action schlock that utilizes neat effects and tech.

But I also haven't seen Matrix 4, so maybe things are a lot more straightforward this time around on that front.

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« Reply #10635 on: January 02, 2022, 05:13:15 PM »
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So what's the alternative? We just continue to allow threads to take a subset of users on the forum and just dogpile constantly?

Have fun then.
I'd rather the cryptolords be banned, but if that's not happening, incessant dog piling is a decent compromise
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Well I find it odd how a forum clearly allows discussion (they have an official thread), while at the same time allow those same users to just be targets in threads like these.
i agree, the crypto official thread should be locked
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Based on what though? Because some people don't like it? What forum rules is it breaking?
it's breaking the same kind of rules that an ot for cyperpunk 2077 would be breaking. it feeds discussion from which nothing good can come. the presence of the thread and for this site to be a host of it causes more problem than any potential benefit it can bring. the entire concept of crypto is repugnant
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Based on what though? Because some people don't like it? What forum rules is it breaking?
Deplatforming harmful bullshit.
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It's amazing that people against crypto are banned for derailing in a thread about cryptos inceeasing consumption meanwhile apologists that came in and began the derail are unscathed
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Had happened in a couple antiNFT threads too... If nothing else is really bad optics when the pro people come in, provoke people, and then the anti-crpyto users get banned instead of the ones starting it.

It's the same people in every thread too.
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We have threads about fast food, investment in stocks which hurt the environment, fast fashion etc. If we want era to be pure eco we would need a whole lot of threads gone. To be honest I don't care much about the discussion about crypto because everyone is acting high and mighty while their bank where they have their savings is investing their money in oil corps and Lockheed and Martin. You sure should criticise crypto, but if you want to do something about climate change than act like it.
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How come hydrophilic attack and RomanticHeroX get banned for responding to Euphoria, who is the actual one who brought up "we should ban x from Era" as a "just asking questions" style derail tactic?
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Lmao. Sorry I didn't pass your litmus test for posting on the Internet. Not that you even know anything about me to have made that last judgement. Nor did anything you posted have a single thing to do with what I said about the derailing and where it started but carry on I guess
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10636 on: January 02, 2022, 05:19:34 PM »

Indeed. None of the threads have grappled with the inherent anti-Blackness of Lana Wachowski's hair choices at the premiere for the film.

Don't forget that the main character (with a surname sounding suspiciously nordic - remember who's obsessed with nordic stuff?) is the archetype of the white savior who has to rescue the powerless black sidekick.

He's also getting a cookie from the only black female character, who apparently spends all her time in the kitchen while talking nonsense.

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« Reply #10637 on: January 02, 2022, 05:22:10 PM »
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Did I stutter? Knock off the derail.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10638 on: January 02, 2022, 05:30:20 PM »
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Did I stutter? Knock off the derail.

Is this ableism?

It ain't the first time.

Speech Impediment summit w-w-w-w-when?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10639 on: January 02, 2022, 06:23:27 PM »
I think era is mature enough to begin a conversation about how in spite of the harmful effects of power usage in cryptocurrency and the idiocy of NFT, there is value in being the one moderately mass-market alternative to the American hegemony of international finance, the one way to execute major transactions in a way that cannot be scrutinized by totalitarian capitalism 🙏
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« Reply #10640 on: January 02, 2022, 06:40:46 PM »
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.  I mean, they could just stop peddling their shit in every one of these threads with dumb whataboutisms. Will someone think of the poor cryptoevangelists lmao

I’m not the biggest fan of crypto, but is not shitty that every single crypto thread is just whining and angst about crypto? 

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They're being unfairly targeted! Yet they themselves put the target on their backs by entering threads to defend a currently useless world destroying scam and trying to convince others they're wrong about it and should join in.
 

“Discussion forum”.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10641 on: January 02, 2022, 06:49:25 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/does-anyone-else-not-comprehend-how-a-84-year-old-ridley-scott-and-a-91-year-old-clint-eastwood-direct-movies.534512/

Bitching about old people and rich people.

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Hahahahaha oh boy.


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« Reply #10642 on: January 02, 2022, 07:21:02 PM »
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.  I mean, they could just stop peddling their shit in every one of these threads with dumb whataboutisms. Will someone think of the poor cryptoevangelists lmao

I’m not the biggest fan of crypto, but is not shitty that every single crypto thread is just whining and angst about crypto? 

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They're being unfairly targeted! Yet they themselves put the target on their backs by entering threads to defend a currently useless world destroying scam and trying to convince others they're wrong about it and should join in.
 

“Discussion forum”.
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Love the irony of using a childish insult to label somebody else as a child.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10644 on: January 02, 2022, 08:29:38 PM »
Fuck off fur cigarillos don't taint one of the few good reboot/sequel of any franchise with your degeneracy.  :kobeyuck :nope

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10645 on: January 02, 2022, 08:31:56 PM »
Pretty sure that poster is talking about pets, but it’s 2022 on resetera so maybe not.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10646 on: January 02, 2022, 09:17:05 PM »


 :lol
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« Reply #10647 on: January 02, 2022, 09:27:40 PM »
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« Reply #10648 on: January 02, 2022, 10:30:54 PM »
Crypto thing leaked over into constructive and Morrigan is now insinuating that moderation is not as fair and equal as B-dubs claims:
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The way this thread was handled is honestly a joke. Scientific studies showing how harmful things are getting with Crypto and 1 week bans to everyone who even suggests that Era shouldn't have a Crypto community.

Maybe when the entire world is literally on fire we'll have new guidelines banning Crypto discussion.

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At the very least, there’s a pattern in these threads of evangelists coming into them, derailing them, people getting annoyed by their farcical level of disdain for the issue at hand and losing their cool, getting banned while the thread dies down or gets closed, while the same bad faith actors will come out unscathed and push the same thing the next week.

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the moderators have been very clear that they are tired of people derailing threads with demands they ban x topic from the forum
That would make a lot more sense if the people systematically derailing these threads weren’t given so much leeway.
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It's honestly been pretty weird. You can just spread misinformation and lie about your ponzi scheme if you're not hostile about it. And tbh I don't see why people shouldn't be hostile to ponzi schemes, scams are inherently hostile in how they function.

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We're not talking about throwing an entire community off the forum just because some of us think it's stupid and harmful. You can check my post history, I think crypto is stupid as hell and have been posting to that effect for years now. Everything you guys are saying I've been saying for longer. That said, the constant "ban this topic mods" stuff is a derail from the actual topic being discussed. We're not doing that anymore, on any topic.

You can hate crypto all you want, just lay off the actual members of the forum. We're not going to put up with people who say they're actively looking to chase other users off the forum (and, yes, people have said as much about their goals here). If somebody says something that warrants them being removed from the community, that's our job. If someone breaks the ToS report them and we'll ban them.

At the same point, you're allowed to be pro-crypto. What you're not allowed to do is dismiss threads that bring up concerns with it with hostilities and whataboutisms. If you think people are doing that report them and we'll take a look.

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the moderators have been very clear that they are tired of people derailing threads with demands they ban x topic from the forum
And I completely understand them, it's always a very annoying derail and counter-productive. That said, threadbans seem way more appropriate for that kind of thing than week-long bans IMO, especially since some people who took part in this derail (but from the "other side" of the argument) weren't hit.

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What you're not allowed to do is dismiss threads that bring up concerns with it with hostilities and whataboutisms. If you think people are doing that report them and we'll take a look.
I don't know man. Weeks ago I reported someone who was being highly disruptive and who used extremely manipulative language. Same poster used the "what about PC gaming" whataboutism regarding environmental concerns (I don't recall if I reported that one post or not, but it was in the same thread, and I would hope that my other report would have at least incentivized staff to scrutinize that poster a bit...). Nothing happened to this poster so far as I know, though everyone attacking them (even with mild jokes) got hit with long bans.  Not here to contest the bans, mind you, only challenging this "please report, we're not one-sided" narrative.

(As an aside, at least two of those banned members have since deleted their accounts, so clearly, some people are getting chased off... 🤷‍♀️ )

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One of the two bans you're referencing is literally the guy I'm talking about. You don't get to tell other users they aren't welcome on Era, straight up. And the guy who's account was deleted literally had prior bans for directly attacking other posters in these threads.

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One of the two bans you're referencing is literally the guy I'm talking about. You don't get to tell other users they aren't welcome on Era, straight up.
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Not here to contest the bans, mind you, only challenging this "please report, we're not one-sided" narrative.
I will repeat that all I'm saying is that I reported a poster who broke the rules you said are actionable, and that nothing happened to this poster.



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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10649 on: January 02, 2022, 10:43:44 PM »
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That said, the constant "ban this topic mods" stuff is a derail from the actual topic being discussed. We're not doing that anymore, on any topic.

I see the MOBA mail arrived

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10650 on: January 02, 2022, 10:48:37 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/does-anyone-else-not-comprehend-how-a-84-year-old-ridley-scott-and-a-91-year-old-clint-eastwood-direct-movies.534512/

Bitching about old people and rich people.

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Hahahahaha oh boy.



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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10651 on: January 02, 2022, 10:49:28 PM »
The Matrix 4 is turning into the next Last Jedi when it comes to online discourse. Some people will really dislike the movie, but our favourite forum will declare those people alt-right heretics for daring to question the brilliance of the most important work in cinematic history.

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« Reply #10652 on: January 02, 2022, 10:55:58 PM »
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Same poster used the "what about PC gaming" whataboutism regarding environmental concerns

once again

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Whataboutism is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy, which attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving the argument.

...

Edward Lucas's 2008 Economist article associated the tactic specifically with the Soviet Union, stating "Soviet propagandists during the cold war were trained in a tactic that their western interlocutors nicknamed 'whataboutism'. Any criticism of the Soviet Union (Afghanistan, martial law in Poland, imprisonment of dissidents, censorship) was met with a 'What about...' (apartheid South Africa, jailed trade-unionists, the Contras in Nicaragua, and so forth)."

it is a non sequitur distraction

so if you say "crypto is bad for the environment, but yet you also allow threads promoting anime sexualizing young girls," that would be a completely different topic and a whataboutism

saying:

  • Crypto is bad for the environment
  • We should ban enthusiast threads about topics which are bad for the environment
  • High end gaming is bad for the environment
  • Therefore threads about high end gaming should also be banned

is the complete opposite of a logical fallacy

rather than screaming "wHaTaBoUtIsM" maybe actually provide some examples as to why you believe it's so different

oh wait you won't because in your heart you know gaming is frivolous entertainment and any defense will make you look hypocritical, or leave ammo for your perceived forum enemies to throw in your face
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« Reply #10653 on: January 02, 2022, 11:28:32 PM »
Morrigan seething that her reports are being ignored by the mods





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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10654 on: January 02, 2022, 11:31:06 PM »
rather than screaming "wHaTaBoUtIsM" maybe actually provide some examples as to why you believe it's so different

oh wait you won't because in your heart you know gaming is frivolous entertainment and any defense will make you look hypocritical, or leave ammo for your perceived forum enemies to throw in your face
I have it on good authority, though I don't remember where I saw this, that gaming hardware is linked to slave labor, concentration camps and genocide.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10655 on: January 03, 2022, 12:44:29 AM »
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That said, the constant "ban this topic mods" stuff is a derail from the actual topic being discussed. We're not doing that anymore, on any topic.

I see the MOBA mail arrived

I wonder if some of the mods hate how much they screwed themselves out by abiding to TransERA complaining of Cyberpunk

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10656 on: January 03, 2022, 12:52:17 AM »
Morrigan being told she’s a bully and that shit wont fly anymore. Beautiful

Now ban her ass permanently to really send a message. Seems the writers found just enough new material to kick off the 2022 season with a bang  :rejoice

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10657 on: January 03, 2022, 05:44:40 AM »
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That said, the constant "ban this topic mods" stuff is a derail from the actual topic being discussed. We're not doing that anymore, on any topic.

I see the MOBA mail arrived

I wonder if some of the mods hate how much they screwed themselves out by abiding to TransERA complaining of Cyberpunk

They let Kaiju become the almighty arbiter of all things Trans on the board, so now she can declare what is transphobic and what is trans media without having to make any kind of case or argument. To disagree is bannable.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10658 on: January 03, 2022, 07:39:27 AM »
Morrigan got her crypto scalp.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/bitcoins-power-usage-in-2021-roughly-doubled-from-last-year.534431/page-4#post-79609235
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I'd rather the cryptolords be banned, but if that's not happening, incessant dog piling is a decent compromise

Well I find it odd how a forum clearly allows discussion (they have an official thread), while at the same time allow those same users to just be targets in threads like these.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10659 on: January 03, 2022, 07:51:35 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/singles-inferno-korean-dating-show-on-netflix-is-the-best-dating-show.534281/#post-79586075
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Is it just a lot of orgies? Because I do dig Korean ladies
Found that one guy who hooked up with a Korean escort alt.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/china-harvests-masses-of-data-on-western-targets.534269/#post-79583891
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Well can see who is earning their social credits in this thread. Winnie the Pooh would be so proud.

Its why even though I do significant work with Chinese and Russian Game Development companies and having been invited to come visit the studios several times I have always turned them down. I have been very vocal on the abuses of both Governments and I have no desire to become some political hostage or other bullshit.

They are essentially taking family members hostage and then contacting Nationals overseas to threaten them to behave all while making sure they know hey we have your family here.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10660 on: January 03, 2022, 08:43:04 AM »
And so, all of a sudden, art was all about the author's intent!  :doge

This is a pretty great meta-ruling, that you can't say shit about a minority groups art or it makes you phobic about that group, because the extended implication is that 90% of the whoreswhoreswhores thread (and also all of neoxons all japanese characters are actually wypipo) are now objectively racist.

:ohhh

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10661 on: January 03, 2022, 08:50:16 AM »
I mean, how and why do trans or black people even want to be a part of Era?  Are Nep and Excel so excluded from their own normal network groups that they have to go to Era?

I imagine it's a combination of being excluded from normal trans communities and power. In real life these two probably have very little say about the day to day happenings around them, so they've carved this little kingdom for themselves where they feel in control.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10662 on: January 03, 2022, 08:54:11 AM »
Capcom & Juri huh, I probably shouldn't be as shocked as I am they just tweeted it out:

https://twitter.com/StreetFighterJA/status/1474289646855397377

The suggestions in this thread are embarrassing.

How do we make Streetfighter better? By bring in a bunch of cis white men.

Maybe, just maybe, Streetfighter  was not made for you. That's fine -- you can like things where you aren't the target demographic. But to argue that the one big-budget Japanese fighting franchise anywhere in Western entertainment needs to be fixed by a bunch of straight white dudes...just embaressing

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10663 on: January 03, 2022, 09:04:36 AM »
Capcom & Juri huh, I probably shouldn't be as shocked as I am they just tweeted it out:

https://twitter.com/StreetFighterJA/status/1474289646855397377

The suggestions in this thread are embarrassing.

How do we make Streetfighter better? By bring in a bunch of cis white men.

Maybe, just maybe, Streetfighter  was not made for you. That's fine -- you can like things where you aren't the target demographic. But to argue that the one big-budget Japanese fighting franchise anywhere in Western entertainment needs to be fixed by a bunch of straight white dudes...just embaressing


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10664 on: January 03, 2022, 09:04:37 AM »
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US era showing once again that even the slightest effort from themselves to help the enviroment is to much to ask.
The average young American is probably so churned over from the $7/hr wages, housing crisis, student debt, and deteriorating democracy, that they have given up all the while being told how shit their country is.

 :six: :social2 :curious :society

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10665 on: January 03, 2022, 09:10:44 AM »
Shows how much europoors know minimum wage is like $14/hr now.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10666 on: January 03, 2022, 09:13:21 AM »
Thats an american defending the other americans in that topic losing their shit about having to do some bare-minimum citizenship effort towards climate change :snob

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10667 on: January 03, 2022, 09:24:13 AM »
Fucking matrix turning into a sensitive topic

I'm going to be annoying and point out, again, that all these themes were handled better in Dark City.  The entire point was that, no matter how extensively the Strangers tried to change who you were inside, the "real" you is carried within your soul and that is impenetrable.

Fuckin' Dark City, man.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10668 on: January 03, 2022, 10:15:15 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/is-anyone-else-really-weirdly-excited-for-stranger-of-paradise-final-fantasy-origin.534629/page-2#post-79635053

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Nah. I'll play it but I'm not excited for it. I'm not excited for anything right now.

You don’t fucking say?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10669 on: January 03, 2022, 10:31:44 AM »
Capcom & Juri huh, I probably shouldn't be as shocked as I am they just tweeted it out:

https://twitter.com/StreetFighterJA/status/1474289646855397377

The suggestions in this thread are embarrassing.

How do we make Streetfighter better? By bring in a bunch of cis white men.

Maybe, just maybe, Streetfighter  was not made for you. That's fine -- you can like things where you aren't the target demographic. But to argue that the one big-budget Japanese fighting franchise anywhere in Western entertainment needs to be fixed by a bunch of straight white dudes...just embaressing

Hey, at least Capcom didn't tweeted something racist like Sakurai did with Rodin getting hosed down :bolo

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10670 on: January 03, 2022, 10:32:49 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-brother-demonically-growled-the-american-underground-how-worried-should-i-be.534626/
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Quick! I'm incredibly high, brother and his friend and I were watching Fast 5 with me and my brother high, yadda, yadda he growled "The American Underground!" what type of website am I in for?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10671 on: January 03, 2022, 10:38:02 AM »
Fucking matrix turning into a sensitive topic

I'm going to be annoying and point out, again, that all these themes were handled better in Dark City.  The entire point was that, no matter how extensively the Strangers tried to change who you were inside, the "real" you is carried within your soul and that is impenetrable.

Fuckin' Dark City, man.


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10672 on: January 03, 2022, 10:40:54 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/bitcoins-power-usage-in-2021-roughly-doubled-from-last-year.534431/

Fun thread.

Don’t point out how much energy is pointlessly wasted on things like gaming though, because reasons.

I have no dog in the crypto fight either way, but I have no doubt eras seething rage at it is jealously they missed out on its rise rather than its energy use.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10673 on: January 03, 2022, 12:23:02 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/bitcoins-power-usage-in-2021-roughly-doubled-from-last-year.534431/

Fun thread.

Don’t point out how much energy is pointlessly wasted on things like gaming though, because reasons.

I have no dog in the crypto fight either way, but I have no doubt eras seething rage at it is jealously they missed out on its rise rather than its energy use.

oh it's still going on

the right wing comic stonetoss recently made a bunch of nfts and put them up for sale really cheap, completely sold out, and ended up a millionaire overnight with relatively little effort

 :stahp
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10674 on: January 03, 2022, 12:23:23 PM »
era thread when  :hyper

https://twitter.com/VitoGesualdi/status/1477912756946755584

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I saw a friend I hadn’t seen in a long time this New Year’s Eve. We’ve known each other since we’re teens. He’s a fellow comedian, the funniest I’ve ever met. I wanted to post a pic & an IG story about it — so I did. The friend is Dave Chappelle. Thirty four YEARS we’ve been friends. He’s refocused and refined ideas a lot of us took as settled about race & history & Life On Planet Earth and spun them around with a phrase or punchline. We’ve done bad & good gigs, open mikes & TV tapings. But we also 100% disagree about transgender rights & representation. I support trans peoples’ rights — ANYONE’S rights — to live safely in the world as their fullest selves. For all the things he’s helped ME evolve on, I’ll always disagree with where he stands NOW on transgender issues. But I also don’t believe a seeker like him is done evolving, learning. You know someone that long, see the struggles and changes, it’s impossible to cut them off. Impossible not to be hopeful and open and cheer them on. Also, I’ve been carrying a LOT of guilt about friends I’ve cut off, who had views with which I couldn’t agree, or changed in ways I couldn’t live with. Sometimes I wonder — did I and others cutting them off make them dig their heels in deeper, fuel their ignorance with a nitro-boost of resentment and spite? I’m an LGBTQ ally. I’m a loyal friend. There’s friction in those traits that I need to reconcile myself, and not let cause feels of betrayal in ANYONE else. And I’m sorry, truly sorry, that I didn’t consider the hurt this would cause. Or the DEPTH of that hurt. I’ve been messaging a lot on IG today, and the back and forth has really helped guide me in the writing of this. I (naively) deleted a lot of posts in the comment thread — critical ones from LGBTQ writers AND shit-posts by TERF/anti-trans orcs looking for clicks & giggles. I wanted a “nice comment thread” about the pic with my friend. Ugh. So easy to think someone ELSE needs growth and miss the need in yourself. Gonna keep trying.
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« Reply #10675 on: January 03, 2022, 12:48:30 PM »
Him sitting there with a notebook to write the apology is legit comedy

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10676 on: January 03, 2022, 12:53:47 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/price-of-the-brick-has-gone-up-little-caesars-hot-n-ready-goes-up-55-cents-but-adds-33-more-pepperoni.534674/
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Yeah this hit a few months ago here, but looks like it is official. I don't know if the added pepperoni is what they say it is.

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« Reply #10677 on: January 03, 2022, 12:54:55 PM »
 :lol

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10678 on: January 03, 2022, 01:07:21 PM »
era thread when  :hyper



I saw a friend I hadn’t seen in a long time this New Year’s Eve. We’ve known each other since we’re teens. He’s a fellow comedian, the funniest I’ve ever met. I wanted to post a pic & an IG story about it — so I did. The friend is Dave Chappelle. Thirty four YEARS we’ve been friends.



Throws his 34 yr friendship under a bus just to appease a bunch of internet strangers

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10679 on: January 03, 2022, 01:15:04 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/price-of-the-brick-has-gone-up-little-caesars-hot-n-ready-goes-up-55-cents-but-adds-33-more-pepperoni.534674/
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Yeah this hit a few months ago here, but looks like it is official. I don't know if the added pepperoni is what they say it is.
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Commenting on the downfall of the "quality" of Little Skeezer's ingredients.

 :oreilly

If you're low on cash and really want pizza, for the same $5, you can get 2 Jack's frozen pizzas.  It's still not "great" but they actually have some taste and you won't be on the toilet 10 minutes later.  But of course, that would involve them using their oven.

 :trigger