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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10800 on: January 04, 2022, 03:49:15 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/hundreds-of-drivers-stranded-overnight-on-i-95-in-virginia.535199/#post-79697330

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« Reply #10801 on: January 04, 2022, 03:53:06 PM »
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Oh my god, are you seriously not getting the point? They ass fuck you by getting you to pay for more shit whilst advertising more shit. This won’t stop with just the little tile turning up, it’ll end up with more intrusive marketing features that get in the way of the content — my fucking games — you’re actually interested in. Why do people spend so much time defending corporations and getting butthurt at criticism of their marketing practices that without scrutiny, would result in more egregious shit like Xbox.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-does-sony-persist-in-pushing-advertisements-of-psn-sales-on-the-playstation-4-dashboard.535007/page-2#post-79696808

Whole thread is OP having a mega meltdown 🤣

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« Reply #10802 on: January 04, 2022, 03:57:13 PM »
I really hate the conservative "kids today are too soft" bullshit that they're always spewing... but in this case it fits. Look, I get that we're all going through different things and that in general we should all be more accepting to one another...

But come the fuck on.

If you're so sensitive that after a comedian makes a couple jokes that anyone ever seen in public with them must be permanently banished from your life because seeing them just causes you so much pain... maybe you really are too soft.

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« Reply #10803 on: January 04, 2022, 04:06:38 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-and-your-so-go-to-bed-together.535187/#post-79695962
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We usually head to bed at the same time, but we'll be on our phones with the TV on for some time still after that. During this period I will usually go to sleep first because I wake up 2 hours earlier.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10804 on: January 04, 2022, 04:06:40 PM »
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They ass fuck you by

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« Reply #10805 on: January 04, 2022, 04:09:39 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-and-your-so-go-to-bed-together.535187/#post-79695962
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We usually head to bed at the same time, but we'll be on our phones with the TV on for some time still after that. During this period I will usually go to sleep first because I wake up 2 hours earlier.
He has a SO? :pika



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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10807 on: January 04, 2022, 04:12:24 PM »

who is ted danson?

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« Reply #10808 on: January 04, 2022, 04:24:38 PM »
This thread is great, because it let me know about Doug Ford's technology struggles  :lol :lol :lol

Ontario Premier Doug Ford’s efforts to adapt to working remotely at home are reportedly not going so well.

According to The Toronto Star, Ford — who’s currently self-isolating at his late mother’s home after an aide tested positive for COVID-19 — is having some tech problems.

In particular, The Star reports that Ford’s aides had to scramble to get him a personal laptop and teach him how to use it. The aides note that while Ford has grown accustomed to doing remote meetings via Microsoft Teams and Zoom in his Queen’s Park office, the premier has tech support handy there.

What’s more, Ford’s aides say the premier doesn’t even have a modern cellphone, as he’s still using a 2014 BlackBerry Classic that runs BB10 for calls, texts and emails. This has presented a problem since the device is so old that it struggles to download attachments and perform other basic functions.

The Star says Ford is so used to the Classic that he has a stack of refurbished models that he purchases from a Mississauga electronics shop for about $150 each.

Overall, Ford is facing intense scrutiny over Ontario’s massive number of COVID-19 cases, with the province reporting 4,212 new cases on Wednesday. The premier has come under fire for inconsistent lockdown procedures and failing to listen to healthcare experts’ advice.

Calls for Ford to resign have since circulated online, including in a recent Washington Post op-ed, which was one of the site’s most-read stories over the weekend.

For now, the Ontario government is planning an “imminent” announcement pertaining to paid sick leave, which is one of the initiatives that health experts have asked to be implemented in the province.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10809 on: January 04, 2022, 05:01:48 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/its-amazing-how-much-shit-you-accumulate-clearout-thread.535220/

Does OP know they are breaking up?

Not shockingly, most of the replies are from hoarders, oh I mean "collectors".

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10810 on: January 04, 2022, 05:16:11 PM »
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Homie looks like he has a cross tattooed on his arm too.

Disgusting behavior. Twitch should ban.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/destiny-2-twitch-streamer-gxsrclyde-under-fire-for-animal-abuse-on-stream.534959/post-79670867

Dude was trying to be slick and hide that he was a christian.  Nah fam, we see you.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10811 on: January 04, 2022, 05:24:18 PM »
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Homie looks like he has a cross tattooed on his arm too.

Disgusting behavior. Twitch should ban.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/destiny-2-twitch-streamer-gxsrclyde-under-fire-for-animal-abuse-on-stream.534959/post-79670867

Dude was trying to be slick and hide that he was a christian.  Nah fam, we see you.

Probably drinks non-alcoholic beer as well  :social2
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10812 on: January 04, 2022, 06:57:27 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-and-your-so-go-to-bed-together.535187/#post-79695962
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We usually head to bed at the same time, but we'll be on our phones with the TV on for some time still after that. During this period I will usually go to sleep first because I wake up 2 hours earlier.
He has a SO? :pika

Even Hitler had a girlfriend

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10813 on: January 04, 2022, 07:12:42 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-and-your-so-go-to-bed-together.535187/#post-79695962
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We usually head to bed at the same time, but we'll be on our phones with the TV on for some time still after that. During this period I will usually go to sleep first because I wake up 2 hours earlier.
He has a SO? :pika

Even Hitler had a girlfriend

Just like Hitler, the more I hear about Finale HarassACoworker the less I care for him. Guy’s a real jerk.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10815 on: January 04, 2022, 09:53:58 PM »
Just noticed my man k-swill deleted his account. Where am I going to get my Baltimore news feed now? :fbm
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10816 on: January 04, 2022, 11:06:23 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/days-after-lamenting-his-plight-nascar-driver-at-center-of-lets-go-brandon-chooses-to-embrace-viral-slogan.533339/
Ree: Bunch of conservation cowards who are too chicken to say fuck Joe Biden!
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Dude drives for his underfunded family team and his sponsorships were drying up over something he didn't do or have any control over, so good for him trying to make lemonade from lemons, I guess. I am skeptical that this deal will work for the entire season.

It's not happening. Nascar didn't approve the sponsorship. It was more of a publicity stunt than anything else.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10817 on: January 04, 2022, 11:20:19 PM »
Guys, I'm starting to think "agree completely with my framing of reality or you're a bad person with worse morals" isn't the airtight argument we may have thought it was.

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« Reply #10818 on: January 04, 2022, 11:25:37 PM »
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I think that's a good approach on paper considering the harmful aspects of those games and the situations/people around them, though I think it was somewhat undermined by allowing separate negative threads on the game to exist
The only people that were confused about this were being wilfully obtuse in order to try and make a point, when anyone with more than a handful of brain cells to rub together could understand why it was the way it was.
The reason being that people predisposed against a game they were going to New Game+ didn't want anything negative about that game being buried in the single thread they demanded as a "compromise" or else TransEra, the most important backbone of the forum, would leave in droves of caravans. And the staff being idiots who can't stick to anything except a reflexive defense of themselves complied because they're idiots.

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« Reply #10819 on: January 04, 2022, 11:52:52 PM »
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I think that's a good approach on paper considering the harmful aspects of those games and the situations/people around them, though I think it was somewhat undermined by allowing separate negative threads on the game to exist
The only people that were confused about this were being wilfully obtuse in order to try and make a point, when anyone with more than a handful of brain cells to rub together could understand why it was the way it was.
The reason being that people predisposed against a game they were going to New Game+ didn't want anything negative about that game being buried in the single thread they demanded as a "compromise" or else TransEra, the most important backbone of the forum, would leave in droves of caravans. And the staff being idiots who can't stick to anything except a reflexive defense of themselves complied because they're idiots.

The reason Kyuji hates that question so much it because it blatantly reveals that the ban of threads had nothing to do with causing "harm" or "mental anguish" to the trans community but just that Kyuji and co wanted to punish CDPR and be mad at anyone who enjoys the game.

(And then of course Kyuji was so obsessed with it that they new game plussed it and even used the New Zealand timezone trick to play the game a couple of hours early. Another fact Kyuji gets really pissed about anytime someone is surprised by this.)

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10820 on: January 05, 2022, 12:55:30 AM »
She was doing research.  Stop victim blaming.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10821 on: January 05, 2022, 01:00:11 AM »
Even though kyuuji is white my Nepenthe decoder ring says the real victims were black trans.  And the bad people were the white liberals.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10822 on: January 05, 2022, 01:20:31 AM »
Is no one concerned about Sabrina though?
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« Reply #10823 on: January 05, 2022, 02:13:19 AM »
In today's most unsurprising news, former NeoGoof and Reeeeeeesetera poster illustrates complete failure to launch as a functioning adult.

https://famiboards.com/threads/taco-bell-is-adding-wings-the-bad-bone-in-kind-to-their-menu-on-january-6th-2022.1426/

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Bone-in wings are a complete waste of food, the bones take over a solid chunk of the meat, meaning you lose a bunch of food that you could save by getting boneless.
These ones are a bit cleaner to eat than standard bone-in ones, though. as they're using a Queso seasoning rather than a sauce.
You also only have one week to try them, presumably because they want to avoid another McDonalds disaster.
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« Reply #10824 on: January 05, 2022, 02:59:40 AM »
this what we accept now for not a bad film? When 2 and 3 exist? (Which I love by the way) My how our standards have fallen.
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You really gonna be elitist in the OT after slinking away from the other thread without addressing any criticism towards your initial take?
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I think the critical and user reviews have spoken for me. We share the same thoughts about how bad this film is.

My issues with this movie are The same that you will find in the IMDB Review section, the rotten tomatoes score and reviews, The Metacritic score and in the majority of the reviews I’ve seen on YouTube by the ones who have a good reputation for doing reviews.
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So write them out.

Tell me your problems with the film, don't just insult someone for having a different opinion and hide behind aggregation.

You are the aggressor here, prove your worth.
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What the fuck is this supposed to be?

Reads like placeholder content for a troll post.

Edit:

It's such a perfectly worthless piece of written content on a message board... It's kinda growing on me.
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They could literally just copy and paste random snippets of IMDB and Reddit reviews with no regard to structure or coherence and it would come off better.
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Aggressor?
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This is a direct response to a person, so yes.

EDIT: Also, you still have have not actually said what you don't like about the movie.
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The more I think about it this movie is actually the greatest shitpost ever created.

A Hollywood blockbuster flat out pissing in the face of the funders and the piss babies who wanted to revolutionize gaming again while completely reclaiming The Matrix.

This is pure Art.
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So much of The Matrix is a personal expression from the Wachowski's. Their views, their lives, their beliefs, their feelings, etc. The Matrix isn't a sandbox for different creators to play in. It's a personal statement from two (or one) very specific artists.

Remove that and you gut the piece of all meaning and purpose.
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I disagree. In fact, I would say the Wachowski's are one of the few mainstream blockbuster directors who can within the studio system to produce deeply personal works. All of their film, including (especially?) the Matrix sequels feel like deeply personal statements from the directors. They put so much of themselves into them.

There is something to be said for how the Wachowski's were forced to work on Matrix sequels even if they would have preferred not to, but they used that opportunity to really express something. It may have been commercial for the studio but for the Wachowski's it always feels personal.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10825 on: January 05, 2022, 04:22:16 AM »
Besides, moralism and hypocrisy are profoundly bipartisan and cross-ideological. Social conservatives are the OG public moralists. You can see a bit of this in the absurd, hypocritical, utterly unAmerican efforts by the right to ban books in public schools and other places. Social conservatism is essentially dead in American life, as crazy as that sounds; the church ladies and scolds of the right have ceded the ground to bizarre techno-reactionaries, conspiracy theorists, anti-politicians, and crypto-utopians. But there are still a lot of people out there who endorse a bitter and provincial moral vision carved out of folk Christianity and American exceptionalism. The issue is that those people have no presence whatsoever in our culture industries, certainly not in the mainstream media and increasingly little in the conservative media, which is increasingly made up of shmucks trying to get “Intellectual Dark Web” cred who don't even pretend to care about Jesus. So it’s just easier to see the preening moralism and hypocrisy in people like Oswalt. But the addiction to unapologetic and proud judgment is a nearly universal element of contemporary life. And there’s a prisoner’s dilemma element here, too - nobody wants to unilaterally disarm. Everyone prefers mutually assured destruction.

You might consider writer and video essayist Lindsay Ellis. She was cancelled awhile back for, uh, comparing a show to a movie, I think. The controversy is honestly so fucking absurd, so existentially Tumblr, that it’s hard to believe that anyone could take it seriously, but there it is. It’s also hard to have sympathy, as Ellis has gleefully participated in cancellations in the past. Precisely because the scenario is so ridiculous, it’s easy for the usual suspects to dismiss it as marginal. The trouble is that the ratchet only goes in one direction - the moral expectations only become more exacting over time, more restrictive. There’s never a loosening. Ten years ago even the most dedicated offense detective would not have thought to produce this list of supposedly “ableist” language, but now it appears in Harvard Business Review, and from there surely it has been integrated by some HR apparatchik into a corporate rulebook that will then be used to get rid of an employee the manager didn’t like for entirely different reasons. And so the wheel spins on.

To try and stick to lists of rules like that in HBR is a fool’s errand, though. You can’t be good enough. That’s the point of all of this, if this post is too long and complex for you. You can’t be good enough. They will come to you soon enough. Chappelle was once held up as an idol for the racial radicalism of his show by the people who now reject him. Louis CK was beloved of the woke, until… something happened. Amy Schumer was a hero until she wasn’t. There are others and there will be more. (Your heel turn is coming, Lil Nas X. I can feel it.) Offense is a market, and as long as there’s demand, there will be supply. We’re so desperate for targets of offense that they canceled Norman Mailer yesterday, and he’s been dead for 15 years. And it’s a great case because no one could be so deluded as to think that any actually-existing human being could be helped by this action. Ostensibly the marginalized group being protected is Black people, and what Black people get by this book being blocked from publication is… well, no one cares. We’ve reached a really remarkable postmodern state of affairs in the cancellation game. It’s cargo cult politics, going through the motions in a ritual that no one thinks has any real political content at all. A year ago we were still talking about changing the fundamental reality of America’s race politics, tearing it up from the roots. Now we perform a perfunctory condemnation of a dead guy whose literary reputation has been even more dead for decades.

So there’s no hope that you can be good enough to not be targeted; when outrage goes meta, there’s no such thing as good enough. You’ve got to keep your head down and hope the roulette wheel never pulls your name, or else you have to unilaterally decline the whole enterprise. Chappelle can’t be canceled. Joe Rogan can’t be canceled. Conservative media bad boys can’t be canceled. (It only feeds their brand.) And I can’t be canceled. Certainly this recent career success can evaporate, and I can be back applying to jobs as a busboy, but I would enjoy that life and I have slipped the bonds and can’t be canceled. The dead don’t die. The trouble is that most people have regular jobs in a corporate America that wants only to avoid bad PR, and they also have mortgages, children, and student loan debt. Of course many now shrug off cancelation or come back from it, which for some reason the most enthusiastic cancelers treat as some sort of gotcha. (If a tactic doesn’t work, maybe stop using it, dumbass.) But that fickle and random character only makes the fear greater, for most people.

All of this is related, somehow, to a particular turn in public life that I can’t quite put my finger on. (I consider myself someone who puts his finger on things professionally, so this is hard to admit.) It’s a flight from any sincere values except those that are the most unapologetically moralist and self-righteous, a culture of meaninglessness that corrodes all beliefs authentically held except those that most violate the ancient tradition of minding your own damn business. The top portion of this essay will surely be mocked by some of the usual suspects - your typical disaffected sarcasm-soaked overeducated members of the aspirational class who are not themselves enthusiastic cancelers but who maintain the present order by ridiculing arguments against canceling without really arguing at all. It’s absurd to invoke the great philosophical traditions of the past to talk about Dave Chappelle and Lindsay Ellis, they’ll no doubt think. (There’s a species of vaguely-left aligned person now who’s too cool to be woke but finds any criticism of such politics terribly lame.) What I would ask, though, is why it would be any more embarrassing to consider moral trends in historical context than it would be to turn the internet into the pulpit from which you daily deliver sermons on who is to ascend to the better place and who will be cast down. Because people do that every day. For some people, it’s all they have.

I am convinced that the recent spasm of enraged but directionless moralism within our aspirational classes is connected to some greater lack of meaning. They live lives that are not the ones they imagined and they grind for goals they can’t define and don’t particular want to achieve. They have grown up into a chaos of meaning and are compelled by communal decree to ironize all values and ridicule all sincerity. All they can cling to now is their desperate sense that everything is wrong and that someone, somewhere, must pay.
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   Carina18 hr ago
Great post. Calls to disown problematic friends and family are the most repugnant part of the “social justice” movement.

We just got done with the holidays, where as usual a bunch of tools racked up likes on Twitter condemning anyone who eats dinner with Republican relatives. As if boycotting family events over politics will help a single person anywhere.

No wonder the movement is so unpopular, when everything people value can be construed as literal violence. America, your family, the holidays themselves (colonialism). Just stay home in the dark and tweet correct opinions, for justice.
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   Pete15 hr ago·edited 15 hr ago
Great post.

I struggle to put my finger on exactly what changed, in our culture and politics, from my initial awakening (2004, Bush re-election campaign) to the present day. It's clear to me that *so* much is different, and it's also clear to me that "wokeness" or "social justice" or "Twitter progressivism" or *whatever you want to call it* is an essential part of it. That particular movement, whether I agree with its ideas or not, dominates my intellectual life. And I think a key part of what I struggle with is that it's hard for me to clearly articulate my issues with it.

Partially, this is because there is a motte-and-bailey dynamic happening here, where stated one way, the ideas underpinning Twitter progressivism are uncontroversial, but then, stated another way, they require me to renounce, I don't know, my brother for voting for Trump, or the traditional liberal defense of free speech, or any number of things that I am pretty sure I am never going to renounce.

The other reason why it's hard to clearly state an opposition to Twitter progressivism is that what I am against is less a set of ideas, and more a particular critical orientation. An orientation that I wouldn't call wrong, but I would, echoing many of the commenters here, call joyless. Seeking the most negative, provocative, inflammatory interpretations of everyday life and culture, rubbing everyone else's faces in the grossness and misery of life, and using all of that to elevate oneself in competitive social, cultural, and political circles. There is a high-minded cruelty to all of this, exacerbated by social media, and I think it haunts all of us, whether we buy into the movement or not. And the critical voice of the movement, the one that finds fault with everything, that voice, once it found me, I was never able to get rid of it. There is some sort of memetic poisoning that happened when I discovered Twitter progressivism, and I'm not sure much can be done to cure me of it. I can't really turn the voice off, even if I think it's toxic bullshit. Even calling it "toxic" shows just how thoroughly it has already defeated me :).
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Gnoment16 hr ago
It seems like the thought process of movement adherents goes like this:

1) Why am I so depressed?

2) If you are happy, you have your head buried in the sand, are unempathetic, or are racist.

3) I feel bad being happy when there are so many people suffering in the world.

4) I'm feel so alone and am so disappointed in people.

5) Why at I so depressed?
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   Penny M13 hr ago
I know a fair number of people for whom social justice activism is a form of self-harm. They're all people I've known for decades and people I know well enough to know what mental health issues they have and what maladaptive coping mechanisms they've used in the past. Unlike previous maladaptive coping mechanisms, where you could gently remind them that what they were doing was counterproductive (again, these are people I'm close to, so mental health check-ins have been something we've done for each other for ages), there is no socially acceptable way to push back on their current behavior, as to do so would mean you're complicit in the injustice they truly believe they're fighting and would get you unpersoned.
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   laelito18 hr ago
When I used to twitter, I followed both Ellis and Oswalt, and I saw them transform from clever, kind, reasonable people into petty, virtue chasing, unhinged moral maniacs in real time and it really bummed me out. Their gradual mental putrefaction due to exposure to that platform was just one of the many reasons I hopped off the twitter hate-bus. Like Freddie says, it’s no surprise that the leopards eventually came for their faces, but it doesn’t make it any less useless, tragic or pointless. I used to really enjoy their faces.
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Gin Fein17 hr ago
Yes! Your first point finally articulates something that has long bothered me. Certain things are declared to be racist/sexist/transphobic etc. because, when they are described in a vacuum, they’re interpreted as having the same shape or symbolic valence as something that is racist/sexist. Or they have a tie to something racist/sexist in history (never mind that literally everything in history is deeply racist/sexist/etc.) The question “what nonsymbolic harm will this cause for Black people/women/trans people/etc.?” is never answered. I think symbolic/thematic/associative thinking has its place, but “deciding what things are harmful” is not that place.
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Alex14 hr ago
I was having an earnest conversation with friends over Christmas dinner about this very issue. I believe my line was something about how I doubt any Black auto mechanics care about the fact that hydraulic brakes have a master and slave cylinder. However, we concluded that all this language policing is basically the result of PMC progressives wanting desperately to do *something* to help people they are convinced are oppressed; they can't do anything (directly) about blue-collar workers' casual racism on the job, or police brutality, or generational wealth gaps...but they sure can yell at their peers on Twitter and Slack for not keeping up with the most current progressive language updates.
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   SlawWrites Slaw’s Newsletter ·18 hr ago
"And because he’s Patton Oswalt and he’s a huge weenie..."

Yup. What I found particularly objectionable was that he repeatedly invoked his many years of friendship with Chappelle as a defense. What difference does that make? "I've known Hitler since high school, that should surely count for something."

If Chappelle had engaged in Holocaust denial there is no way that Oswalt would have taken his phone call. The obvious truth is that Oswalt does not consider Chappelle's "anti-trans" sentiments to be disqualifying in the same sense that something such as antisemitism or racism would be. Everything else is just desperate obfuscation.
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   Gin Fein17 hr ago
Great post!

Most cancellation discourse concerns judgment of public figures, and I do think the public has a right to judge public figures as public figures (though not as humans before God.) The reason public figures are notable at all is because the rest of us pay attention to them. As a person who creates public figures with your attention, the decision that you no longer want a given person to be a public figure seems like an appropriate place for judgment. I do agree with the pro-canceling arguments up to this point.

But aggressive judgment of public figures qua public figures doesn't usually stay confined to that realm--most condemnation of public figures describes them as morally unworthy human beings, and people who are not public figures are increasingly treated with the same degree of scrupulosity as public figures. Plus, as this post points out, the degree of moral judgment eventually becomes so high that *no one* can be, or remain, a public figure. At the same time, the condemnation doesn't really *work*--the only way for a public figure to stop being a public figure is if people stop paying attention to them, and "aggressive condemnation" is not "no more attention." The end point appears to be just as many public figures as before, every bit as famous and every bit as morally compromised, but now huge swaths of the public also hates them, whether for a mortal sin or a minor absurdity. And the process also trickles down to non-public figures.

A lot of defenders of cancellation think they're defending the exercise of democratic power to decide who gets to be a public figure--and I think that's a good thing. I think celebrities have way too much power in our society and that the people who make them celebrities should execute their check on that power. But just looking at the sheer bloodlust of, say, Reddit comments arguing that a drag queen said something offensive and should be cancelled indicates that this is motivated by something else.
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The things with all this kind of textual analysis is that it's always absurd if you really apply it. For example, using that framework, the word 'ableist' is definitely ablist – racism is discrimination against people of different race, therefore ableism is discrimination against people of different ability, which implies that they DO have different ability. A lot of these things are usually this kind of non-rigorous etymological analysis, the point is to create new rules which you can accuse people of breaking.
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Let me see if I can finger the thing that Freddie can't finger.

I think the basic problem may be that with the development of the internet, the cost of speech has fallen through the floor while the cost of action has stayed the same. Speaking righteously is pointless unless it leads to righteous action, but it's easy to forget that: we're hard-wired to believe that expressing a moral judgment is *in itself* beneficial, because in a small band of hunter-gatherers it really does have a powerful practical effect. That's no longer true, but the quantity of righteous speech just keeps increasing anyway.
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   Klaus Kinski18 hr ago
It's the Streetlight effect. Guy looks for his keys under the streetlight. The keys aren't there, but that's where the light is.

The social justice movement can't materially help black/trans/gay/etc people people, but boy can they hurt Lindsay Ellis.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10826 on: January 05, 2022, 04:52:18 AM »
"Seeking the most negative, provocative, inflammatory interpretations of everyday life and culture, rubbing everyone else's faces in the grossness and misery of life, and using all of that to elevate oneself in competitive social, cultural, and political circles."

....nah, not ringing any bells.

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« Reply #10827 on: January 05, 2022, 08:22:14 AM »
No one read that benji
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« Reply #10828 on: January 05, 2022, 08:26:47 AM »
On a side note, I’d like to wish everyone in this holy thread a belated happy new year.  Fifteen years of laughing at NeoGAF and Resetera. Time flies, man. Much love to demi-kun for keeping it afloat.

God bless The Bire and god bless the United States of America.
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« Reply #10829 on: January 05, 2022, 09:35:51 AM »
On a side note, I’d like to wish everyone in this holy thread a belated happy new year.  Fifteen years of laughing at NeoGAF and Resetera. Time flies, man. Much love to demi-kun for keeping it afloat.

God bless The Bire and god bless the United States of America.
:insane :insane :insane

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10830 on: January 05, 2022, 09:56:39 AM »
RE finally reaching the point of actually kind of liking state mandated censorship if it falls within their puritan mindset

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State-mandated alterations notwithstanding, I like the revised costumes a whole lot more across the board.

Yeah. The state literally mandating character designs is a slippery slope that could get pretty dangerous, but these designs are basically all improvements.

I still think Mona looks like an idiot, though. The design concept of her clothing is just laughable.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/genshin-impact-altered-censored-characters-to-appease-ccp.535484/

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« Reply #10831 on: January 05, 2022, 10:18:01 AM »
RE finally reaching the point of actually kind of liking state mandated censorship if it falls within their puritan mindset
I don’t have a strong opinion about this at the moment. I’ll need to think where I stand on this but many publishers clearly don’t give a fuck. They’re not trying to improve their female designs. In many instances, it has become even worse. If this is the only way to get some of them to care about other demographics, then it might be worth it.

Tee hee.

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« Reply #10832 on: January 05, 2022, 10:47:33 AM »
imagine a world where some horny foreign government refuses to allow certain media unless there is prominent cleavage and exposed titflesh, and the company sighs and acquiesces and makes the boobage standard worldwide just so they don't have to fracture their audience

 :dsp
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« Reply #10833 on: January 05, 2022, 10:59:36 AM »
RE finally reaching the point of actually kind of liking state mandated censorship if it falls within their puritan mindset

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State-mandated alterations notwithstanding, I like the revised costumes a whole lot more across the board.

Yeah. The state literally mandating character designs is a slippery slope that could get pretty dangerous, but these designs are basically all improvements.

I still think Mona looks like an idiot, though. The design concept of her clothing is just laughable.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/genshin-impact-altered-censored-characters-to-appease-ccp.535484/
I don’t have a strong opinion about this at the moment. I’ll need to think where I stand on this but many publishers clearly don’t give a fuck. They’re not trying to improve their female designs. In many instances, it has become even worse. If this is the only way to get some of them to care about other demographics, then it might be worth it.

Tee hee.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10834 on: January 05, 2022, 11:38:54 AM »
RE finally reaching the point of actually kind of liking state mandated censorship if it falls within their puritan mindset
I don’t have a strong opinion about this at the moment. I’ll need to think where I stand on this but many publishers clearly don’t give a fuck. They’re not trying to improve their female designs. In many instances, it has become even worse. If this is the only way to get some of them to care about other demographics, then it might be worth it.

:teehee.

You can make a link using an emoji!  That’s awesome.

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« Reply #10835 on: January 05, 2022, 11:48:50 AM »
RE finally reaching the point of actually kind of liking state mandated censorship if it falls within their puritan mindset
I don’t have a strong opinion about this at the moment. I’ll need to think where I stand on this but many publishers clearly don’t give a fuck. They’re not trying to improve their female designs. In many instances, it has become even worse. If this is the only way to get some of them to care about other demographics, then it might be worth it.

Tee hee.

It's legit hilarious to me considering how often they spouted the "it's not censorship if it's not from the government!!!" line, which isn't exactly true either, but now it slowly shifts into "actually we don't mind censorship" and in the case of your quote "actually it's awesome"

Also what the fuck kind of planet do they live on if they think female designs have become worse? I really don't get it. Are they only playing japanese hentai games?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10836 on: January 05, 2022, 11:53:50 AM »
State mandated censorship is good only if it makes male feminists feel better about playing video games.

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« Reply #10837 on: January 05, 2022, 12:01:34 PM »
So now that they no longer have the shield of "It's not censorship if it isn't government mandated," they now switch to a "the greater good" argument. It is almost like them denying they are authoritarian prudes was all lies. Imagine that!

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10838 on: January 05, 2022, 12:11:10 PM »
Uh, does it make me an authoritarian prude if I want the government to have extremely granular control over the art and media citizens consume? Heh heh, I didn't think so buster.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10839 on: January 05, 2022, 12:17:48 PM »
In today's most unsurprising news, former NeoGoof and Reeeeeeesetera poster illustrates complete failure to launch as a functioning adult.

https://famiboards.com/threads/taco-bell-is-adding-wings-the-bad-bone-in-kind-to-their-menu-on-january-6th-2022.1426/

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Bone-in wings are a complete waste of food, the bones take over a solid chunk of the meat, meaning you lose a bunch of food that you could save by getting boneless.
These ones are a bit cleaner to eat than standard bone-in ones, though. as they're using a Queso seasoning rather than a sauce.
You also only have one week to try them, presumably because they want to avoid another McDonalds disaster.

Imagine stanning  do hard for such a terrible, terrible movie. It didn't have I've single redeeming quality, and I say that as someone with very low standards who can usually enjoy most shit.

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« Reply #10840 on: January 05, 2022, 12:26:31 PM »
In today's most unsurprising news, former NeoGoof and Reeeeeeesetera poster illustrates complete failure to launch as a functioning adult.

https://famiboards.com/threads/taco-bell-is-adding-wings-the-bad-bone-in-kind-to-their-menu-on-january-6th-2022.1426/

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Bone-in wings are a complete waste of food, the bones take over a solid chunk of the meat, meaning you lose a bunch of food that you could save by getting boneless.
These ones are a bit cleaner to eat than standard bone-in ones, though. as they're using a Queso seasoning rather than a sauce.
You also only have one week to try them, presumably because they want to avoid another McDonalds disaster.

Imagine stanning  do hard for such a terrible, terrible movie. It didn't have I've single redeeming quality, and I say that as someone with very low standards who can usually enjoy most shit.

demolition man?
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10841 on: January 05, 2022, 12:28:53 PM »
There’s a Taco Bell movie?  :gladbron
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« Reply #10842 on: January 05, 2022, 12:44:46 PM »
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Yeah. The state literally mandating character designs is a slippery slope

imagine that being the slippery slope when it benefits you

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« Reply #10843 on: January 05, 2022, 12:54:03 PM »
There’s a Taco Bell movie?  :gladbron

I would also be interested to know the answer to this question
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10844 on: January 05, 2022, 12:57:49 PM »
Demolition Man

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10845 on: January 05, 2022, 01:00:10 PM »
I want to be allowed to see Jean and Mona’s ass.

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« Reply #10846 on: January 05, 2022, 01:05:02 PM »

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10847 on: January 05, 2022, 01:08:28 PM »
RE finally reaching the point of actually kind of liking state mandated censorship if it falls within their puritan mindset
I don’t have a strong opinion about this at the moment. I’ll need to think where I stand on this but many publishers clearly don’t give a fuck. They’re not trying to improve their female designs. In many instances, it has become even worse. If this is the only way to get some of them to care about other demographics, then it might be worth it.

Tee hee.
Some people really don't deserve their freedom, damn.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10848 on: January 05, 2022, 01:14:44 PM »
Quote from: Mesoian
The reasoning is unfortunate, but all of the new designs are superior ones.

Fuck you, Mesoian.

Stop being a pussy and say that you are happy that a government changed the outfits of characters you perceived looking like sluts. Stop pussyfooting your horrible opinions.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10849 on: January 05, 2022, 01:16:54 PM »
RE finally reaching the point of actually kind of liking state mandated censorship if it falls within their puritan mindset
I don’t have a strong opinion about this at the moment. I’ll need to think where I stand on this but many publishers clearly don’t give a fuck. They’re not trying to improve their female designs. In many instances, it has become even worse. If this is the only way to get some of them to care about other demographics, then it might be worth it.

Tee hee.
Some people really don't deserve their freedom, damn.

Yup like this guy…

I want to be allowed to see Jean and Mona’s ass.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10850 on: January 05, 2022, 01:17:12 PM »
I want to be allowed to see Jean and Mona’s ass.

China: "Best I can do is thighs."
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10851 on: January 05, 2022, 01:18:28 PM »
RE finally reaching the point of actually kind of liking state mandated censorship if it falls within their puritan mindset
I don’t have a strong opinion about this at the moment. I’ll need to think where I stand on this but many publishers clearly don’t give a fuck. They’re not trying to improve their female designs. In many instances, it has become even worse. If this is the only way to get some of them to care about other demographics, then it might be worth it.

Tee hee.
Some people really don't deserve their freedom, damn.

Yup like this guy…

I want to be allowed to see Jean and Mona’s ass.

Eh, why my dear?

You understand why people are bitching about  in that thread?

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« Reply #10852 on: January 05, 2022, 01:19:23 PM »
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I don’t have a strong opinion about this at the moment. I’ll need to think where I stand on this but many publishers clearly don’t give a fuck. They’re not trying to improve their female designs. In many instances, it has become even worse. If this is the only way to get some of them to care about other demographics, then it might be worth it.

Absolute.  Fucking.  Lunacy.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #10853 on: January 05, 2022, 01:20:30 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/keanu-reeves-reportedly-donated-70-of-his-matrix-salary-to-cancer-research.535280/

Always like Keanu. A good spirit. Even ERA’s thread is completely positive about the gu-

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If you get like 100 million and you give away 70 million, you still have 30 million left. Numbers pulled from my butt but the point is I wouldn't call anyone still getting millions as a hero.

And no I'm not saying he shouldn't keep those millions. Just that labeling a rich person giving off millions as heroic seems a bit much if you still have plenty left.

Role model sure though. More rich people need to understand they really don't need all their millions

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would be better if he gave them 88%. 30% cut is just too high.

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« Reply #10854 on: January 05, 2022, 01:27:45 PM »
I like how people praise the covering of cleavages but then get worried when it comes to their "sexy" boy character being up next

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The outfits being well done aesthetically is a separate matter than why they may have done it in the first place. They're not mutually exclusive; if anything a tip of that to miHoYo for making them REALLY dang close to what was already there if indeed this is due to arm-twisting from the government. :/

These designs aside, I'm still worried they'll do something to Venti. :(

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I said before that I'm happy with less sexualized character designs, but from seeing that CCP leak trying to remove effeminate men and force gender norms on character portrayals this is for sure a negative as this is only one step in the plot. I wish this was something coming from Mihoyo, but it's as a result of censorship

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It is possible to think that state mandated censorship is bad and that the original designs had needlessly risque elements and improvements are possible at the same time lol.

Anyway, I'm much more concerned about how they'll handle male characters.Costume changes are one thing especially since they're not being forced on international audiences but the rules will certainly influence future designs from the ground up and concerns about "effeminate men" are much more dangerous than eliminating some cleavage.

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« Reply #10855 on: January 05, 2022, 01:27:55 PM »

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« Reply #10856 on: January 05, 2022, 01:29:26 PM »
How deep does their hatred of wealth run? If someone is making 100k are they supposed to give 70-90% of their money away as well?

What's the cut off point between "hero" and "just a millionaire/billionaire trying to buy goodwill"?

Cause like... a Billionaire giving 10% of their wealth is more effective than someone with 1 million dollars giving 50% of their wealth.

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« Reply #10857 on: January 05, 2022, 01:31:32 PM »
How deep does their hatred of wealth run? If someone is making 100k are they supposed to give 70-90% of their money away as well?

What's the cut off point between "hero" and "just a millionaire/billionaire trying to buy goodwill"?

Cause like... a Billionaire giving 10% of their wealth is more effective than someone with 1 million dollars giving 50% of their wealth.

Aw come on, Marrec. You know they worship performance over impact. Intent is all that matters.

Unless its racism of course.

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« Reply #10858 on: January 05, 2022, 01:36:48 PM »
RE finally reaching the point of actually kind of liking state mandated censorship if it falls within their puritan mindset
I don’t have a strong opinion about this at the moment. I’ll need to think where I stand on this but many publishers clearly don’t give a fuck. They’re not trying to improve their female designs. In many instances, it has become even worse. If this is the only way to get some of them to care about other demographics, then it might be worth it.

Tee hee.
Some people really don't deserve their freedom, damn.

Yup like this guy…

I want to be allowed to see Jean and Mona’s ass.

Eh, why my dear?

You understand why people are bitching about  in that thread?

I don’t care about the thread at all I just think people lusting after cartoons are weird :trumps

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« Reply #10859 on: January 05, 2022, 01:40:24 PM »
RE finally reaching the point of actually kind of liking state mandated censorship if it falls within their puritan mindset
I don’t have a strong opinion about this at the moment. I’ll need to think where I stand on this but many publishers clearly don’t give a fuck. They’re not trying to improve their female designs. In many instances, it has become even worse. If this is the only way to get some of them to care about other demographics, then it might be worth it.

Tee hee.
Some people really don't deserve their freedom, damn.

Yup like this guy…

I want to be allowed to see Jean and Mona’s ass.

Eh, why my dear?

You understand why people are bitching about  in that thread?

I don’t care about the thread at all I just think people lusting after cartoons are weird :trumps

What about lusting after message board users?  :drool
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