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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13440 on: February 16, 2022, 07:10:48 AM »
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Like, no offense, but this game has some serious issues with depictions of gender. I've been playing for 45 hours, and . . .

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kotaku-lost-arks-depiction-of-female-characters-feels-a-decade-out-of-date.553294/post-82182757

And someone tries to out, "i'm so tired," morrigan.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/kotaku-lost-arks-depiction-of-female-characters-feels-a-decade-out-of-date.553294/post-82181791




Unrelated.  https://www.resetera.com/threads/rich-people-don%E2%80%99t-sleep.553051/

Why does this game from Korea not exactly follow our moral standards  :maf

We Americans have been having this conversation for over a decade now  :maf

It's also funny because they already toned down some of the outfits for the western release (thank you Lord Amazon Games)

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13441 on: February 16, 2022, 07:15:59 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/kotaku-lost-arks-depiction-of-female-characters-feels-a-decade-out-of-date.553294/#post-82180852
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The walk/run animation is garbage, the rest is fine.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kotaku-lost-arks-depiction-of-female-characters-feels-a-decade-out-of-date.553294/#post-82180876
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Quote from: May
While this is ridiculous and sexist and tbh I wish Amazon would've changed a lot of it (like how they changed some of the more skimpy outfits), this article does smell a little like "americans pretending that everyone is an american".

"Now in 2022, it's not only bad, it seems as if the folks making this game just ignored the last decade or so of discussions and debates surrounding representation of women and non-masculine characters in games."

Like yeah, no shit that Koreans probably aren't keeping up on the social issues in America. Clearly. Otherwise this stuff would, sadly, not be so prevalent in Korean games. I mean just look at Black Desert for another ridiculous example. I'd love to be proven wrong but I think this sort of conversation has not quite reached Korea yet.

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/kotaku-lost-arks-depiction-of-female-characters-feels-a-decade-out-of-date.553294/#post-82181170
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Quote from: VaanXSnake
The walk/run animation is garbage, the rest is fine.

Gender-locked classes and sexist armour is "fine"?

Quote from: May
While this is ridiculous and sexist and tbh I wish Amazon would've changed a lot of it (like how they changed some of the more skimpy outfits), this article does smell a little like "americans pretending that everyone is an american".

"Now in 2022, it's not only bad, it seems as if the folks making this game just ignored the last decade or so of discussions and debates surrounding representation of women and non-masculine characters in games."

Like yeah, no shit that Koreans probably aren't keeping up on the social issues in America. Clearly. Otherwise this stuff would, sadly, not be so prevalent in Korean games. I mean just look at Black Desert for another ridiculous example. I'd love to be proven wrong but I think this sort of conversation has not quite reached Korea yet.

Good job on making excuses for misogyny by blaming it on the fact that they are... Korean?

Interesting that both of them got banned after Morrigan responded to their posts.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13442 on: February 16, 2022, 07:22:42 AM »
I'm starting to get the impression that you can't win with these people :titus

Only a few days ago they was bitching about western studios making games about other cultures, now they want a western mega corp to make changes to a Korean game :mindblown
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13443 on: February 16, 2022, 07:23:50 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/kotaku-lost-arks-depiction-of-female-characters-feels-a-decade-out-of-date.553294/#post-82181215

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Good job on making excuses for misogyny by blaming it on the fact that they are... Korean?
What the hell is wrong with you, none of that was an "excuse". I literally said that I'd personally want it changed because it's super sexist.

I'm just taking issue with the phrasing of the Kotaku article.
Quote from: Morrigan
"Like yeah, no shit that Koreans probably aren't keeping up on the social issues in America."
"I think this sort of conversation simply has not quite reached Korea yet"

This is kinda making excuses IMO. It's also not really true and erases Korean feminism.

But sure, something is wrong with me 🙄
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I'm so tired, literally everything I say on this forum gets twisted and what-not just because I'm horrible at expressing myself.

I was -not- trying to -excuse- this behaviour. Not what I intended to do, not what I meant. And I'm not "erasing" anything because I literally said that I'd love to be proven wrong. Educate me then, instead of just being rude to me for no reason.
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OK. Sorry you're so tired. I'm tired of all these incredibly exhausting topics about gender and feminism myself and having to constantly "educate" dudes about basic feminism too. Been doing it for like... a decade now?

So, I guess we're even.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13444 on: February 16, 2022, 07:26:16 AM »
I also find it amusing that they're mad at genderlocked classes when this actually results in there being more female than male characters. So you're mad at playing a woman?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13445 on: February 16, 2022, 07:27:53 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/kotaku-lost-arks-depiction-of-female-characters-feels-a-decade-out-of-date.553294/#post-82181902
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I fired up Lost Ark last night and cringed so hard during that character creator. Then, once I made my character I cringed again at the walk animation.

And yet you went right for the "cringe" female character with the "cringe" walking animation?
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Holy shit its bad. I think i'd be embarrassed if my wife walked in on me playing this.

I got news for you: Your wife thinks all of the silly little video games you play are childish and stupid.  Safe bet that she also thinks it's "cringe" that you call yourself "Scarface" online and use a gopnik avatar.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13446 on: February 16, 2022, 07:32:30 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/kotaku-lost-arks-depiction-of-female-characters-feels-a-decade-out-of-date.553294/page-4#post-82192492
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I really do wonder if having hot chicks (tm) as protagonists in your live-service games exponentially increases revenue. Must be, right?  I have this lingering feeling that if Anthem had waifus instead of mechs as its characters, it would still be around today...

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13447 on: February 16, 2022, 07:35:06 AM »
I also find it amusing that they're mad at genderlocked classes when this actually results in there being more female than male characters. So you're mad at playing a woman?

https://www.vox.com/2016/4/17/11442730/rust-experimental-race-gender-random
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A popular video game now randomizes your race and gender — and many white men are furious

2016 - people are forced to play as a woman: "lol die mad, embrace the diversity forced on you"  :smug

2022 - people are forced to play as a woman: "this is so limiting, why can't we just choose who we want to be"  :social
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13448 on: February 16, 2022, 08:15:11 AM »
So white-adjacent people are still allowed to make things, and women are still being dirty whores?

Man, I'm just so tired.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13449 on: February 16, 2022, 08:43:17 AM »
This is why they should've never started to pander to these nutjobs and just kept in all the T&A that was needlessly censored over the last 2 decades.

After all they get all giddy and excited when Street Fighter man has his dick hanging out :trumps
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13450 on: February 16, 2022, 08:54:13 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/kotaku-lost-arks-depiction-of-female-characters-feels-a-decade-out-of-date.553294/page-4#post-82194550

Quote from: Axon
I mean its not just men/boys, either. These games are starting to get wise and target horny girls too with male designs catered to those audiences.

Someone needs to tell Helen Lovejoy here about homosexuality.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13451 on: February 16, 2022, 09:02:05 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/kotaku-lost-arks-depiction-of-female-characters-feels-a-decade-out-of-date.553294/page-4#post-82194550

Quote from: Axon
I mean its not just men/boys, either. These games are starting to get wise and target horny girls too with male designs catered to those audiences.

Someone needs to tell Helen Lovejoy here about homosexuality.

The martial artist class default male character is so specifically laser targeted at the "I love kdrama actors" crowd it was kinda jarring to see in a game.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13452 on: February 16, 2022, 09:31:32 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/kotaku-lost-arks-depiction-of-female-characters-feels-a-decade-out-of-date.553294/page-4#post-82194550

Quote from: Axon
I mean its not just men/boys, either. These games are starting to get wise and target horny girls too with male designs catered to those audiences.

Someone needs to tell Helen Lovejoy here about homosexuality.

It's almost as if sex sells and people like to look at attractive characters, no matter what their gender or sexual orientation is!  REEE can't believe it!

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13454 on: February 16, 2022, 09:38:24 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/kotaku-lost-arks-depiction-of-female-characters-feels-a-decade-out-of-date.553294/page-4#post-82194550

Quote from: Axon
I mean its not just men/boys, either. These games are starting to get wise and target horny girls too with male designs catered to those audiences.

Someone needs to tell Helen Lovejoy here about homosexuality.

The martial artist class default male character is so specifically laser targeted at the "I love kdrama actors" crowd it was kinda jarring to see in a game.

The first proper companion you run into also has the most K-pop of K-pop hairdo where he's basically blind but all the "High heels are too impractical!!" people don't care about that


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« Reply #13455 on: February 16, 2022, 09:46:23 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/kotaku-lost-arks-depiction-of-female-characters-feels-a-decade-out-of-date.553294/page-4#post-82194550

Quote from: Axon
I mean its not just men/boys, either. These games are starting to get wise and target horny girls too with male designs catered to those audiences.

Someone needs to tell Helen Lovejoy here about homosexuality.

The martial artist class default male character is so specifically laser targeted at the "I love kdrama actors" crowd it was kinda jarring to see in a game.

The first proper companion you run into also has the most K-pop of K-pop hairdo where he's basically blind but all the "High heels are too impractical!!" people don't care about that

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13456 on: February 16, 2022, 10:03:09 AM »
why does anyone care about a random korean mmo, I don't think I've ever heard anything about it before controversy  ???
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13457 on: February 16, 2022, 10:14:17 AM »
why does anyone care about a random korean mmo, I don't think I've ever heard anything about it before controversy  ???

1) Diablo 4 isn't out yet and PoE is wearing out it's welcome
2) It has super flashy combat animation
3) Kpop/kdrama style

It's extremely popular outside of the US and now that it's officially released in the US it's already one of the most played steam games.

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« Reply #13458 on: February 16, 2022, 10:19:14 AM »
why does anyone care about a random korean mmo, I don't think I've ever heard anything about it before controversy  ???

The only thing I saw were people on the other side bitching about them censoring outfits.   :P
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13459 on: February 16, 2022, 10:21:31 AM »
https://twitter.com/WayForward/status/1493740504550305793

"Controversy" over River City Girls including two translations- one that was a literal translation (hence "Literal") with some harsher, less-PC words, and a localized one that is 'softer.' 

https://twitter.com/DJ_Fakie/status/1493742965251993604

People actually got upset that they called it a "Literal" translation.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13460 on: February 16, 2022, 11:02:19 AM »
I'm literally shocked.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13461 on: February 16, 2022, 11:14:25 AM »
I'm literally shocked.

Please use the more appropriate term "originally".

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13462 on: February 16, 2022, 11:40:43 AM »
Figuratively, fuck 'em.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13463 on: February 16, 2022, 11:41:25 AM »
So the slippery slope of fan service designs has gone from “sexualized” to “sexist”. I imagine “sexual assault” will be the next step and then “literal rape”
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13464 on: February 16, 2022, 11:58:28 AM »


I'm just so tired....

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13465 on: February 16, 2022, 12:04:20 PM »
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13466 on: February 16, 2022, 12:21:32 PM »
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« Reply #13467 on: February 16, 2022, 12:27:52 PM »
why does anyone care about a random korean mmo, I don't think I've ever heard anything about it before controversy  ???

It's pretty big, Papa Bezos is publishing it.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13468 on: February 16, 2022, 12:45:22 PM »
https://twitter.com/Bloodyroarxx/status/1493984765439057921

*Sony ignores the original female creator of Uncharted*

Kotaku and RE = *yawn*

*High Heels in a Korean MMO*

Kotaku and RE = To the battlestations!
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13469 on: February 16, 2022, 03:13:41 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/kotaku-lost-arks-depiction-of-female-characters-feels-a-decade-out-of-date.553294/#post-82180852
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User Banned (1 Month): Excusing sexism, history of severe infractions
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The walk/run animation is garbage, the rest is fine.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kotaku-lost-arks-depiction-of-female-characters-feels-a-decade-out-of-date.553294/#post-82180876
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User Banned (Permanent): Excusing sexism, history of severe infractions

Quote from: May
While this is ridiculous and sexist and tbh I wish Amazon would've changed a lot of it (like how they changed some of the more skimpy outfits), this article does smell a little like "americans pretending that everyone is an american".

"Now in 2022, it's not only bad, it seems as if the folks making this game just ignored the last decade or so of discussions and debates surrounding representation of women and non-masculine characters in games."

Like yeah, no shit that Koreans probably aren't keeping up on the social issues in America. Clearly. Otherwise this stuff would, sadly, not be so prevalent in Korean games. I mean just look at Black Desert for another ridiculous example. I'd love to be proven wrong but I think this sort of conversation has not quite reached Korea yet.

...

https://www.resetera.com/threads/kotaku-lost-arks-depiction-of-female-characters-feels-a-decade-out-of-date.553294/#post-82181170
Quote from: Morrigan
Quote from: VaanXSnake
The walk/run animation is garbage, the rest is fine.

Gender-locked classes and sexist armour is "fine"?

Quote from: May
While this is ridiculous and sexist and tbh I wish Amazon would've changed a lot of it (like how they changed some of the more skimpy outfits), this article does smell a little like "americans pretending that everyone is an american".

"Now in 2022, it's not only bad, it seems as if the folks making this game just ignored the last decade or so of discussions and debates surrounding representation of women and non-masculine characters in games."

Like yeah, no shit that Koreans probably aren't keeping up on the social issues in America. Clearly. Otherwise this stuff would, sadly, not be so prevalent in Korean games. I mean just look at Black Desert for another ridiculous example. I'd love to be proven wrong but I think this sort of conversation has not quite reached Korea yet.

Good job on making excuses for misogyny by blaming it on the fact that they are... Korean?

Interesting that both of them got banned after Morrigan responded to their posts.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13470 on: February 16, 2022, 05:00:03 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/new-xbox-sales-cyberpunk-2077-29-99-life-is-strange-true-colours-35-99-crysis-remastered-trilogy-35-max-payne-3-8-99-and-more.552796/post-82117036
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13471 on: February 16, 2022, 05:10:05 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-steam-just-lets-racist-post-their-shitposts-on-steam-now.553597/

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« Reply #13472 on: February 16, 2022, 05:32:16 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/kotaku-lost-arks-depiction-of-female-characters-feels-a-decade-out-of-date.553294/#post-82181170
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The walk/run animation is garbage, the rest is fine.

Gender-locked classes and sexist armour is "fine"?
It is in fact, fine.

Happy to help.

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« Reply #13473 on: February 16, 2022, 06:11:30 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/kotaku-lost-arks-depiction-of-female-characters-feels-a-decade-out-of-date.553294/#post-82181215

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Quote from: Morrigan
Good job on making excuses for misogyny by blaming it on the fact that they are... Korean?
What the hell is wrong with you, none of that was an "excuse". I literally said that I'd personally want it changed because it's super sexist.

I'm just taking issue with the phrasing of the Kotaku article.
Quote from: Morrigan
"Like yeah, no shit that Koreans probably aren't keeping up on the social issues in America."
"I think this sort of conversation simply has not quite reached Korea yet"

This is kinda making excuses IMO. It's also not really true and erases Korean feminism.

But sure, something is wrong with me 🙄
Quote from: May
I'm so tired, literally everything I say on this forum gets twisted and what-not just because I'm horrible at expressing myself.

I was -not- trying to -excuse- this behaviour. Not what I intended to do, not what I meant. And I'm not "erasing" anything because I literally said that I'd love to be proven wrong. Educate me then, instead of just being rude to me for no reason.
Quote from: Morrigan
OK. Sorry you're so tired. I'm tired of all these incredibly exhausting topics about gender and feminism myself and having to constantly "educate" dudes about basic feminism too. Been doing it for like... a decade now?

So, I guess we're even.
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I know this is redundant, but christ what a miserable fucking cunt she is.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13474 on: February 16, 2022, 06:13:03 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-steam-just-lets-racist-post-their-shitposts-on-steam-now.553597/#post-82219522

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13475 on: February 16, 2022, 06:14:17 PM »
Which kind of rape porn should I absolutely avoid out there? Send me search querys I should never ever use.

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« Reply #13476 on: February 16, 2022, 06:21:03 PM »
Glamour Magazine investigates the boys club:
When I was growing up in the ‘90s and ’00s, gaming was part of everyday life. And although my girlfriends and I would happily spend the summer inside playing videos games like Spyro, The Sims or Worms, we were frequently underestimated by our male peers.

I'd be accused of cheating at Tekken 2 because I was repeatedly winning. And it was assumed that I only played the easy modes because there was no way a girl could be good at a game. My secret to always winning Tekken 2 was to play as Jun, a female character with a powerful, feminine, cartwheel kick (the boys would rarely pick a female character, unknowingly giving me the advantage). The first time I joined a Call of Duty voice chat, I was met with disgust at a woman entering a man’s space. “Urgh, there's a f*cking lassie in here,” one of them said.

Nowadays, we’re departing from the idea that women who play video games are invading the male territory. Video games have undergone a reputational change, as the extensive benefits of gaming – escapism, a sense of achievement and community, and social connectivity – are becoming more and more apparent.

Gaming has a unique storytelling method that invites people to live out an adventure rather than just observe. Where film and TV create voyeurs, video games create active participants. And with research proving that gaming is beneficial to mental health – relieving stress, stimulating the brain, and teaching coping mechanisms – it’s no wonder that women make up around 43% of all gamers.

From a consumer perspective, gaming is no longer an exclusive boy's club. But what of the rampant sexism that has long plagued the industry? Has it finally been stamped out?

...

Back in 1988, the first Metroid Dread game subverted expectations by revealing that the space-suit donning protagonist, Samus, was a woman all along. This was considered very forward-thinking for the time. The character was programmed, designed and treated just like any other male character… until the reveal.

The better you played, the more clothing came off, so your gaming abilities dictated whether you were rewarded with the character wearing a spacesuit, a leotard or a bikini. Young girls who saw this moment play out were learning that even when women get to be the hero, they are objectified.

The impact that the original game had in the '80s was so groundbreaking that it has a videogame sub-genre named after it: Metroidvania, and has spawned 14 sequels with another on the horizon. The latest game in the series was released last year and, thankfully, doesn’t strip the character down to her underwear.

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However, there are still modern depictions of women that uphold an objectifying culture. You’ll find large-chested bikini-clad fantasy women in the Japanese spin-off franchise Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball. The backstory of the series is that the female characters of Dead or Alive, a fighting game series, are playing mini-games on a private island resort. It’s largely understood that the series is closer to playable soft porn than to an actually entertaining video game.

Gamespot called out the Dead or Alive developers for having “set the game industry back about 5 years.” But with the latest iteration released in 2019, I’d say it’s set us back even further. Any franchise that uses jiggle physics – a specific feature that makes a woman’s breasts exaggeratedly bounce when she moves – is crossing the line from realistic to creepy.

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« Reply #13477 on: February 16, 2022, 06:22:56 PM »
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Nintex

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13478 on: February 16, 2022, 06:33:27 PM »
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Lara’s journey has been in survival mode for almost a decade now, but the developers plan to jump ahead for their next game and show her as a seasoned adventurer. A change that may reflect progression in gaming, as we move into an era with more diverse female narratives. 
Where is this new Tomb Raider game and the 14 Metroid sequels?

What universe is this Ashley living in and can I join her?

She's written exactly one article is it even a real person or an AI?  :dizzy
https://www.glamourmagazine.co.uk/profile/ashley-dick
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13480 on: February 16, 2022, 07:21:33 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/in-forbidden-america-louis-theroux-eviscerates-the-far-right-new-documentary-series.553354/

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I wondered if Theroux should even be giving them a platform, given they're banned from most social media and video websites now.

So I made a thread about it.


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In America, you won't challenge racist far-right groups until white people start challenging their friends and family. Shit like "We just don't talk politics" or "That's just how racist Uncle Johnny is" are the reason why this shit festers. Making them look stupid isn't going to convince racist Uncle Johnny that he was wrong.

No progress will be made in America on this front until white people put skin in the game. Shit like typing "#BLM!" and calling it a day is all white people think they have to do. Racist hate will start to be dismantled when white people begin to challenge their family, friends, and other white people.

This always has been such buck passing.  It's not my fault there is racism!  It's theirs for not talking to racist family members. 

OK, you don't have racist family members so you helped solve racism? 

And "just talk to racists," is their solution?  Isn't that what they hate personally doing, (not my job to educate you) and they hate other people doing it, (coons, uncle toms, and other self-policing terms?)
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13482 on: February 16, 2022, 07:47:35 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-steam-just-lets-racist-post-their-shitposts-on-steam-now.553597/
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Is this a common thing? I am frankly baffled by this. Can we do anything about this?
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I guess I've just been ignorant on how many racist Steam games there are on the store. I knew the forums were full of geniuine racists, see all the "censorship" threads or "anti-sjw" threads you see on the forums. I just didn't know Valve was making money off bigotry like this.
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Yeh... Steam has been a cesspool forever.

If you're ever brave enough to venture into the discussion pages of any game that has a the vaguest hint of a progressive theme, or some kind of representation, etc... you'll notice a lot of vile shit. Check the profiles of the people speaking and you'll likely notice more in their comments section.

I reported a profile a few years ago that had a tonne of super overt racism in the comments: images of swastikas, racism toward Jews, n-word everywhere and it was still untouched months later. I saw another profile like it last week.

They are lenient to this stuff, for whatever reason...
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A very explicit reminder that when Hatred was banned on steam for you know, being Hatred not only did Valve revoke that ban but Gabe Newell himself personally issued an apology. Steam is actual garbage in that regard.
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I don’t think Steam has even had a black history month sale to promote black creators or games with black stories / protagonists.
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This is depressing. I guess morality is meaningless if you can make money off it and it doesn't affect your optics.
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Yeah, that’s Steam alright. Remember when they couldn’t even muster any kind of BLM support when everyone else did it?
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Yup, and so many hypocrites on this forum constantly praise and promote Steam. It’s always been an incredible cesspool of racism, sexism, and disgusting things, and they aren’t even that hidden. But oooh the deals! And the launcher lets me do X thing that the other launchers don’t! Imagine how this would look if MS, Sony, or Nintendo allowed this type of racist bullshit like that and rape simulators all of a sudden (I’m aware there are problematic games on all platforms, but not to THIS degree). It would be absolutely insane. Yet it’s cool for Valve because Valve is “so open and understands PC gamers so well.” Fuck that, they shouldn’t be let off the hook for ignoring this type of shit.
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Yup. Steam don't care about racism, sexism, nazis or, well, anything until it brings them too much heat.
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I rarely browse Steam anymore, has this been more of a recent thing?
Doesn't seem to hurt them very much, says a lot about their userbase.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13483 on: February 16, 2022, 08:29:17 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-have-switched-to-a-more-discreet-phone-case-and-its-stressing-me-out.552994/
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When I got an iPhone as a teen there was something very common that I was used to seeing all over the place: broken iPhones.

Probably half of all the iPhones I saw from 2007-2012 were broken. It was just a fact of life. Kids and adults alike had smashed screens, water damage, bent frames, and the horror of using a broken iPhone until your contract was up was a very real phenomenon. The relative ease your iPhone would be destroyed produced a super lucrative business model for really resilient phone cases - an era where big bulky Otterboxes and trendy Lifeproof cases defined the aesthetic of the iPhone just as much as the device itself.

I had one on every iPhone I ever owned and they did a great job at preserving the device. Every iPhone I traded in at the end of its lifecycle was like new. At no point have I ever damaged my iPhone and I always credited the protection afforded by the waterproof, shockproof, drop-proof cases I'd become accustomed to. I became very reliant on these cases because I beat the hell out of my phones. For one of my jobs I worked outside and constantly dropped my phone on dirt and concrete. I had the tendency to eject my phone from my lap accidentally as I stood up out of the car, sending it flying onto the pavement. I'd be balancing my phone on a stack of laundry and drop it down the hardwood stairs of my parents' house. I'd drop my phone in the snow, I'd use my phone in the shower, and as the years went by I became extremely comfortable with not having to be careful with my phone. There was no reason to. In these cases, they were indestructible.

But it is not 2010 anymore. The construction of the iPhone, allegedly, has come a long way. They're innately waterproof now. They're made with stronger glass. They frame won't bend in your pocket anymore. And today in this year of our Luigi 2022 I don't see a lot of bulky armored iPhone cases. At most, people will have a thin little plastic shell that covers the back of the phone. Some don't even use that. Phone cases are not fashionable and a lot of people don't use them.


As a result I am trying to "get with the times." I replaced my resilient all-encapsulating phone case with a regular plastic shell that goes on the back of the device. And... I feel like my phone is so vulnerable. It feels so delicate. I'm afraid to put it in my pocket lest my keys gauge the glass. I'm afraid to drop it in the driveway and crack the screen in half. I hesitated before bringing it in the shower this morning afraid of what would happen. For me, it is still 2010. If I drop my iPhone it will explode and my parents will kill me.

So folks with no cases or minimal cases on your expensive phones - how do you live? Am I making the right decision? Please comfort me in my time of great anxiety. I have never used my phone with a naked screen like this before. It feels like it will melt like chocolate from my fingertips. Maybe I should go back to the armor!

Next Day Update:

I took a bunch of advice from this thread and have a bunch of different but similarly-styled slim cases on their way to weigh my options.

I also ordered a tempered glass screen protector but I am wondering: do I really need it? There seems to be this enlightened fringe where people claim modern cellphones do not need screen protectors anymore and the compulsion to buy them is all part of the conditioning by Big Screen Protector. How do people feel about that?
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damn you really just wrote 500 words about a phone case huh

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13484 on: February 16, 2022, 08:52:20 PM »
CP2077 thread, from a mod:

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I remember this game. Spend 30 minute playing, and 5 hours in the menus.

How fucking dumb do you have to be? Even if you are brain-dead, watch the digital foundry video and use those settings, otherwise, choose medium, does it run ok? Yes? Turn things up. No? Turn things down. Done.

Almost as bad as the mod who admitted to taking an hour to learn to tie their shoes.

Edit: top of page cyberslut

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I don't like cosplay shit, but this has been one of the hottest photoshoots I've ever seen.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13485 on: February 16, 2022, 10:36:55 PM »
Russia-Ukraine thread getting attacked by pro-Russian invasion trolls again:
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If we're citing shit that happened in the 19th century then we've lost the plot.

Let's at least stick to comparisons involving the geopolitical reality of a post WW2 and post founding of the United Nations world.
Well, there's Iraq. Which much like this fast approaching war, the media also lied us into a frenzy in order to support.

I think it was after ww2, but maybe I have my dates off.

Edit: And Syria, and Yemen, and several other military adventures throughout the middle east enacted by the ruling class in America not to help Americans (voting rights? education? infrastructure?) or the countries these conflicts occur in, but to line the pockets of private defense contractors.

Edit 2: Oh, and the unnecessary extra decade+ we spent using up billions of tax payer dollars in Afghanistan.

BUT AGAIN- I'm not sure these all happened post ww2, so please disregard if I have my dates off and America has actually been nothing but a positive military actor in the last few decades.

Or literally ever except for a few years in the 40's.
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This whole narrative that the western news agencies are just pushing needless fear mongering is ridiculous and it needs to stop.
I really don't know what you expect us to do when we have quotes from Zelensky's party, among others, saying that Western news agencies are escalating the situation.

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Well, there's Iraq. Which much like this fast approaching war, the media also lied us into a frenzy in order to support.
There are strong "if you aren't with us, you're against us" vibes when it comes to any remotely critical or dissenting voice.
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Here you go

TIL Al Jazeera is Russian propaganda. We can drop it here, though, I don't want to contribute to more derailing. I would ask that people take more consideration when responding to criticism--calling Al Jazeera and other reporters "Russian propaganda" is super weird.

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I'm not engaging with you. I'm not going to get thread banned just because you want to troll.

I literally posted a tweet/quote from Navalny, Putin's opponent, that I agree with. I do not understand how this is trolling.
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So many western leftists showing their assholes throughout this entire ordeal has been very eye opening...
The "America Bad" contingent never actually cared about other people's rights or imperialism.

This entire event has shown how accurate my assessment was of them.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13486 on: February 16, 2022, 10:38:55 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-steam-just-lets-racist-post-their-shitposts-on-steam-now.553597/
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Yup, and so many hypocrites on this forum constantly praise and promote Steam. It’s always been an incredible cesspool of racism, sexism, and disgusting things, and they aren’t even that hidden. But oooh the deals! And the launcher lets me do X thing that the other launchers don’t! Imagine how this would look if MS, Sony, or Nintendo allowed this type of racist bullshit like that and rape simulators all of a sudden (I’m aware there are problematic games on all platforms, but not to THIS degree). It would be absolutely insane. Yet it’s cool for Valve because Valve is “so open and understands PC gamers so well.” Fuck that, they shouldn’t be let off the hook for ignoring this type of shit.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13489 on: February 17, 2022, 01:44:11 AM »
https://steamcommunity.com/app/1853200/discussions/0/3192492886084465615/
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Don't listen to the fascists on Recet Era, they are all just pro cop white supremacists who want to censor anything that highlights the injustices faced by the black community.
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this, incelera is just filled with crypto fascists and black women hating people.
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ResetEra have direct ties to Russia and the canadian truck convoy. They must be ignored. hate cannot win.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13490 on: February 17, 2022, 02:02:05 AM »
I'm glad some are brave enough to speak the truth about Era.  We just sarcastically mock it from afar but avoid touching on it's real crimes.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13491 on: February 17, 2022, 04:11:16 AM »
The fact that the ree's get games like that and trash smut  recommended to them says more about them than Steam
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13492 on: February 17, 2022, 04:39:29 AM »
Fuck that.
Am I just supposed to fucking guess at Royalan's waistline, or are you going to step up and do your job?

I know what the projections looked like, but I need to know for sure.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13493 on: February 17, 2022, 04:53:54 AM »
Oh Jeez. Someone's made a stealth Harry Potter thread -

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So, I've had a longstanding fascination with ceremonial and ritual magic. Initially born out of curiosity with secret occult societies like the Golden Dawn and the O.T.O., and later bleeding over into my personal experiences with the writings those such as Alan Moore and Grant Morrison.

For years now I've danced around turning said curiosity into practice. I've read various books on the subject, collected assorted magickal accoutrements, waited for the goddamn release of Alan Moore's Bumper Book of Magic...

And yet I've still never pulled the trigger on actually attempting any such rituals myself. So, out of random curiosity, I was wondering if anyone here on Era had any experience in the realm of the occult or perhaps advice for a neophyte looking to delve into the realm of ceremonial magic?


https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-anyone-here-into-ceremonial-magic.553780/




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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13494 on: February 17, 2022, 05:00:50 AM »
More phobic crimes...

https://www.resetera.com/threads/monark-jrpg-by-former-smt-devs-contains-transphobic-content.553717/

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Still gonna get it, none of this is remotely shocking at this point.

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Seriously. That example quoted in the RPGFan review? That's something that actually happens to trans people. It's happened to me, and it's why I never allow anyone to learn my deadname anymore. Not your typical anime tropes in play, but straight up transphobia.

Coming into a thread like this, where a number of trans people are rightfully justified in their concern, anger, and disgust, and just dismissing everything to say you're still support the game is beyond disrespectful.

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I'm trans too you absolute dweeb

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13495 on: February 17, 2022, 05:42:56 AM »
There's a subtle savagery to 'you absolute dweeb' that has me fucking rolling  :lol

Sophia must've deflated with an audible groan. The absolute dweeb.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13496 on: February 17, 2022, 06:05:35 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-are-monarchies-still-a-thing-in-the-world.553765/

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Saudi Arabia is an absolute monarchy. And Russia, North Korea, and a few other counties are absolute monarchies in everything but name

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Because, for better or worse, they actually work. I personally favor them over democracy.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13497 on: February 17, 2022, 06:37:17 AM »
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I haven't even been on a date in like three years. How the fuck are you supposed to meet new people during a global pandemic?

As everyone who's studied dating professionally knows, the secret to not landing a dud is never dating down

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13498 on: February 17, 2022, 06:45:53 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-steam-just-lets-racist-post-their-shitposts-on-steam-now.553597/
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Yup, and so many hypocrites on this forum constantly praise and promote Steam. It’s always been an incredible cesspool of racism, sexism, and disgusting things, and they aren’t even that hidden. But oooh the deals! And the launcher lets me do X thing that the other launchers don’t! Imagine how this would look if MS, Sony, or Nintendo allowed this type of racist bullshit like that and rape simulators all of a sudden (I’m aware there are problematic games on all platforms, but not to THIS degree). It would be absolutely insane. Yet it’s cool for Valve because Valve is “so open and understands PC gamers so well.” Fuck that, they shouldn’t be let off the hook for ignoring this type of shit.
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This caught a permaban?

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Yeah what the fuck is going on here

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Strange indeed.

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Makes no sense.

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whats up with that ban

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #13499 on: February 17, 2022, 06:55:17 AM »
I hate games made by politicians

         "I just want games without any politics in" bad faith alt right GG chud dog whistle?
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