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[Nintex]

My favourite thing about Pachter's show was how easy he was to piss off. Him bragging about his car was literally in response to people making fun of his distinguished mentally-challenged predictions.

"Good to have you Michael"

"Hello fellow Babies"

"You keep saying that..."

"Yeah, that's just a thing I say"

"So today's topic, Square Enix. They've made some interesting moves making Final Fantasies and other big games. When they got Tomb Raider that was a pretty big deal. Are you excited Michael?"

"Well Geoff, to tell you the truth in 2 years Ubisoft will buy Square Enix and Final Fantasy will have a tough time to compete with Dragon Quest"

"Dragon Quest is also from Square Enix Motherfucker, fuck shit piss fuck"

"All right folks, look like David Jaffe has something to say about Square Enix"

"We worked with them when I was at Sony and we did God of War and they were still doing this turned based shit and my games were actually good and they just kept releasing outdated trash, no offense Michael"

"Yeah I think Japan is over Geoff, Jaffe is right. If you look at Dragon Quest like that only did 10 million units on Nintendo DS, Call of Duty does like 50 million units a day, they just can't keep up. So I'm saying Ubisoft buys them they update the gameplay to be more like Prince of Persia"

"You mean Assassins Creed?"

"Yeah that one with the swords on the Xbox"

"I don't think that's going to happen Michael but we'll see"

The midget with the squeeky voice (I forgot his name): "WELL YEAH I THINK SONY IS GOING TO BUY SQUARE NEXT THEY HAVE ALL THE MONEY AND GAMES ON PLAYSTATION YOU HAVE THIS REALLY EXCITING GAME IT'S CALLED FINAL FANTASY IT'S A REAL SYSTEM SELLER ON PLAYSTATION I'M JUST SUPER HAPPY WITH WHAT SONY IS DOING ON PLAYSTATION"

"But Xbox is pretty cool too right?"

"Yeah I love Fucking HALO man, I mean HALO that's like not as good as God of War but pretty good"

The midget with the squeeky voice (I forgot his name): "YEAH BUT HALO LIKE DID YOU PLAY KILLZONE SONY HAS KILLZONE LIKE THAT'S THE NEW HALO NOW"

"You know, maybe Final Fantasy should be more like HALO. Add some guns and it would sell more than 5 copies"

*all laugh*

"All Right folks, times up. that was another exciting episode of the Bonus Round, your expert industry analysis with me Geoff Keighly, Michael Pachter always a pleasure!"

[Pissy F Benny]

https://twitter.com/imranzomg/status/1570511655267860483

You shouldn't sleep on the job bud

you don't even need evil racist alt right sources to pinpoint the moment they lost viewers

https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/g4tv

(Image removed from quote.)


but you know what he would say, if he was smart?

There is absolutely zero proof that they lost viewers that they were then "desperate to get back" after that Frosk moment.

"I didn't say they didn't lose viewers, I said they weren't desperate to get them back, because the only viewers they lost were the misogynists"

 

I don't think this is even about any of the issues she ranted about. Gamers just want their Xenoblades, Zelda's and Call of Duty's they don't want your personal grievances.

This has been proven time and time again. Remember when GameTrailers started to sniff their own farts by having a Wall Street guy show his Porsche and mansion?
The moment they jumped the shark and fell off a cliff.

Hasn't that Imran guy been fired/let go from multiple gaming outlets now. He must fucking suck at being a games journo or have the some terrible luck.

[joeboy101]

https://twitter.com/imranzomg/status/1570511655267860483

You shouldn't sleep on the job bud

you don't even need evil racist alt right sources to pinpoint the moment they lost viewers

https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/g4tv

(Image removed from quote.)


but you know what he would say, if he was smart?

There is absolutely zero proof that they lost viewers that they were then "desperate to get back" after that Frosk moment.

"I didn't say they didn't lose viewers, I said they weren't desperate to get them back, because the only viewers they lost were the misogynists"

 

I don't think this is even about any of the issues she ranted about. Gamers just want their Xenoblades, Zelda's and Call of Duty's they don't want your personal grievances.

This has been proven time and time again. Remember when GameTrailers started to sniff their own farts by having a Wall Street guy show his Porsche and mansion?
The moment they jumped the shark and fell off a cliff.

Hasn't that Imran guy been fired/let go from multiple gaming outlets now. He must fucking suck at being a games journo or have the some terrible luck.

Bit of Column A... Bit of Column B

 

[BIONIC]

Also ousted from his position of Prime Minister of Pakistan

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/imranzomg/status/1570516429103075328

I think he's just not very good at his job?

He started at GameInformer, then he moved to one of their subsites: "Fanbyte".

His content is the most cookie cutter shit you can find anywhere
https://www.fanbyte.com/games/news/what-could-a-september-nintendo-direct-announce/
https://www.fanbyte.com/games/features/i-am-already-fatigued-by-regional-pokemon-variants/
https://www.fanbyte.com/games/features/fanbyte-staff-guesses-the-subtitle-for-final-fantasy-remake-part-iii/

There's no engagement, no originality.

Before you know it publishers start to pass you over for review copies
https://www.fanbyte.com/games/news/where-is-our-saints-row-review/

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://twitter.com/imranzomg/status/1570511655267860483

You shouldn't sleep on the job bud

you don't even need evil racist alt right sources to pinpoint the moment they lost viewers

https://socialblade.com/youtube/user/g4tv

(Image removed from quote.)


but you know what he would say, if he was smart?

There is absolutely zero proof that they lost viewers that they were then "desperate to get back" after that Frosk moment.

"I didn't say they didn't lose viewers, I said they weren't desperate to get them back, because the only viewers they lost were the misogynists"

 

I don't think this is even about any of the issues she ranted about. Gamers just want their Xenoblades, Zelda's and Call of Duty's they don't want your personal grievances.

This has been proven time and time again. Remember when GameTrailers started to sniff their own farts by having a Wall Street guy show his Porsche and mansion?
The moment they jumped the shark and fell off a cliff.

Maybe Neoxon can take that position

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/xbox-game-studios-bethesda-softworks-otxx-grounded-until-2023.607947/page-311#post-93093914

User Banned (1 Month): Insensitive Commentary. Account in Junior Phase.

Thank FUCK, now put Joseph Staten as head of 343

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/XboxP3/status/1570537237783408642

lol what is this corpo ball washing, they're doing the bare minimum.
Peter Moore got the goods way back on the Xbox 360.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/azerbaijan-has-launched-artillery-strikes-on-armenia-outside-of-any-disputed-areas.631064/page-4#post-93337133

Putin is literally going to let Azerbaijani commit all kinds of ethnic cleansing if not outright genocide just to appease Erdogan and keep him in his orbit. Fucking hell, Armenians don't deserve this.

  Turkey is in NATO. Armenia is in CSTO.
 

[Yulwei]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-feb-2023-is-stacked-with-games.632639/

  dude is trolling and i approve!

[benjipwns]

I think he's just not very good at his job?

He started at GameInformer, then he moved to one of their subsites: "Fanbyte".

This wasn't entirely his fault, Game Informer had to shed a shitload of jobs and I believe they did it by reverse seniority.

Fanbyte isn't a subsite of Game Informer, it's a weird Tencent company.

[Potato]

Also ousted from his position of Prime Minister of Pakistan

Great cricketer though

[Boredfrom]

https://twitter.com/imranzomg/status/1570512993473171458

https://twitter.com/imranzomg/status/1570516429103075328

https://twitter.com/imranzomg/status/1570530176370618368

Jesus, dude... 

[Nintex]

If you can't code there's always OnlyFans

[Boredfrom]

Obviously, I’m not laughing about him losing his job but how uppity he is acting, specially since it sounds like he wants to say “I was forced to crunch” because he voluntarily worked until late night in a press release news story.

Also, believing he can go to Patreon because he was….?

For all his faults and shitty behavior, at least Jason Schreier  at least have some sort of relevance.

[Propagandhim]

Game Informer still exists?  What is it, a charity case?  I can't imagine anyone willingly buying gaming magazines today unless it's like a patreon type of thing for collectors.

[benjipwns]

Obviously, I’m not laughing about him losing his job but how uppity he is acting, specially since it sounds like he wants to say “I was forced to crunch” because he voluntarily worked until late night in a press release news story.

No, no, let's rub salt in the wound and look at the news he stayed up late for:

Though Ryu Ga Gotoku Ishin was praised heavily by Japanese fans when it released in 2014, Sega and RGG Studio were not exactly confident it would do well in the west. It was, to begin with, a massive localization task for a series where even the mainline titles weren’t doing gangbusters. That it was a spinoff complicated the situation more and that the spinoff was about a historical Japanese time and place, which the developers assumed would seem alien outside of the country, was enough for Sega to focus their attention more on the upcoming Yakuza 5 and Yakuza 0 localizations instead.

In an interview with Masayoshi Yokoyama, the RGG Studio chief and Executive Producer told Fanbyte that there were a number of factors involved with finally bringing the game to the west. One surprising key, however, was the 2020 open-world samurai title Ghost of Tsushima from PlayStation studio Sucker Punch.

“We saw how well Ghost of Tsushima did, and how it was about this very Japanese setting made by Americans, so that gave us confidence Ishin could do well in America too,” Yokoyama said.

It may seem easy enough to think that of course the Edo-period setting of Like A Dragon: Ishin would do well in America, which has never really shied away from swordfights and drama, but the Yakuza series was in a very tenuous place at the time. It took PlayStation’s intervention to even bring Yakuza 5 —a mainline title — to the west in English, Ishin might have seemed like a bridge way too far at the time.

Ghost of Tsushima was not the only factor, of course. Yokoyama also said the timing was simply right, with Yakuza: Like a Dragon opening up the audience to many new fans who never got a chance to play the critically-acclaimed Ishin. The game, much like its protagonist Sakamoto Ryoma, has simply been lying in wait and waiting for its chance to strike.

When Street Fighter 6’s newest challenger Kimberly was revealed, fans across the world celebrated with enthusiasm and joy that is characteristic of Kimberly herself. The ninja character seemed by all accounts to be a win for representation, as a positive and undeniably cool portrayal of a subset of black culture, which come rarely in fighting games. The reason for this successful depiction? Bringing in people that knew what they were talking about.

In Fanbyte’s interview with Street Fighter 6 Director Takayuki Nakayama and Producer Shuhei Matsumoto, the pair mentioned that they enjoy the process of creating new characters and Kimberly is the foremost example of what a difference that makes.

“A lot of people on the team are fans of Black culture,” Nakayama said. “In order to make her as authentic as possible, we spoke with many Black employees within the company. We also hired consultants to help us design the character and her mannerisms.”

Nakayama mentioned that one of the things that defines Street Fighter to him is a diverse set of characters from all over the world and ensuring that they are real and authentic is an important part of development. Both Nakayama and Matsumoto repeatedly emphasized that “open communication” is a priority for them in Street Fighter 6 —a lesson they learned while working on Street Fighter V — and believe that designing characters authentically is part of that ethos.

While much of the roster of Street Fighter 6 has leaked at this point, the actual reveals of the characters have thus far lead to huge reactions. Even stalwarts like Ryu and Chun-Li have people excited. There’s still a fair few characters left to show, including both newcomers and veterans, before the game’s marketing wraps up. Hopefully they’re all received as well as the roster so far.

Street Fighter 6 releases in 2023 on PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox Series S|X, and PC.

Neither story links to the remainder of the "interviews" that were supposedly conducted. The entire content from the "interview" for the first story is a single sentence.

[PogiJones]

Game Informer still exists?  What is it, a charity case?  I can't imagine anyone willingly buying gaming magazines today unless it's like a patreon type of thing for collectors.

In all seriousness, my brother with Asperger‘s still gets them. He very much still lives as a child, through no fault of his own. The gaming industry tends to be home to a lot of underdeveloped minds. Not saying magazines are inherently bad, I just mean that a lot of gamers very much live in the past.

[benjipwns]

Game Informer still exists?  What is it, a charity case?  I can't imagine anyone willingly buying gaming magazines today unless it's like a patreon type of thing for collectors.

Game Informer is owned by GameStop, it's actually one of the highest subscribed magazines in the United States. At one point it had the highest number of subscribers for any non-AARP magazine.

[Propagandhim]

With more than 6 million monthly paid subscribers (December 2019, Alliance for Audited Media), Game Informer is the industry's leading publication and maintains its ranking as the 5th largest consumer magazine in the United States and the largest digital publication in the world.

lol what the fuck

[Potato]

Obviously, I’m not laughing about him losing his job but how uppity he is acting, specially since it sounds like he wants to say “I was forced to crunch” because he voluntarily worked until late night in a press release news story.

No, no, let's rub salt in the wound and look at the news he stayed up late for:

Though Ryu Ga Gotoku Ishin was praised heavily by Japanese fans when it released in 2014, Sega and RGG Studio were not exactly confident it would do well in the west. It was, to begin with, a massive localization task for a series where even the mainline titles weren’t doing gangbusters. That it was a spinoff complicated the situation more and that the spinoff was about a historical Japanese time and place, which the developers assumed would seem alien outside of the country, was enough for Sega to focus their attention more on the upcoming Yakuza 5 and Yakuza 0 localizations instead.

In an interview with Masayoshi Yokoyama, the RGG Studio chief and Executive Producer told Fanbyte that there were a number of factors involved with finally bringing the game to the west. One surprising key, however, was the 2020 open-world samurai title Ghost of Tsushima from PlayStation studio Sucker Punch.

“We saw how well Ghost of Tsushima did, and how it was about this very Japanese setting made by Americans, so that gave us confidence Ishin could do well in America too,” Yokoyama said.

It may seem easy enough to think that of course the Edo-period setting of Like A Dragon: Ishin would do well in America, which has never really shied away from swordfights and drama, but the Yakuza series was in a very tenuous place at the time. It took PlayStation’s intervention to even bring Yakuza 5 —a mainline title — to the west in English, Ishin might have seemed like a bridge way too far at the time.

Ghost of Tsushima was not the only factor, of course. Yokoyama also said the timing was simply right, with Yakuza: Like a Dragon opening up the audience to many new fans who never got a chance to play the critically-acclaimed Ishin. The game, much like its protagonist Sakamoto Ryoma, has simply been lying in wait and waiting for its chance to strike.

When Street Fighter 6’s newest challenger Kimberly was revealed, fans across the world celebrated with enthusiasm and joy that is characteristic of Kimberly herself. The ninja character seemed by all accounts to be a win for representation, as a positive and undeniably cool portrayal of a subset of black culture, which come rarely in fighting games. The reason for this successful depiction? Bringing in people that knew what they were talking about.

In Fanbyte’s interview with Street Fighter 6 Director Takayuki Nakayama and Producer Shuhei Matsumoto, the pair mentioned that they enjoy the process of creating new characters and Kimberly is the foremost example of what a difference that makes.

“A lot of people on the team are fans of Black culture,” Nakayama said. “In order to make her as authentic as possible, we spoke with many Black employees within the company. We also hired consultants to help us design the character and her mannerisms.”

Nakayama mentioned that one of the things that defines Street Fighter to him is a diverse set of characters from all over the world and ensuring that they are real and authentic is an important part of development. Both Nakayama and Matsumoto repeatedly emphasized that “open communication” is a priority for them in Street Fighter 6 —a lesson they learned while working on Street Fighter V — and believe that designing characters authentically is part of that ethos.

While much of the roster of Street Fighter 6 has leaked at this point, the actual reveals of the characters have thus far lead to huge reactions. Even stalwarts like Ryu and Chun-Li have people excited. There’s still a fair few characters left to show, including both newcomers and veterans, before the game’s marketing wraps up. Hopefully they’re all received as well as the roster so far.

Street Fighter 6 releases in 2023 on PlayStation 4, PlayStation 5, Xbox Series S|X, and PC.

Neither story links to the remainder of the "interviews" that were supposedly conducted. The entire content from the "interview" for the first story is a single sentence.

He stayed up late writing what are essentially Resetera posts
 


Remind me why he has been fired twice?

[Boredfrom]

https://www.fanbyte.com/games/features/genshin-impact-has-too-much-dialogue/

Oh, brother… 

I kind of get it, but Genshin is not exactly the worst in that regard (not mention a lot of people play for the story, for better or worse). Fate Grand Order is the biggest offender to me, even if you can skip scenes (no, we don’t need a 10-15 minute VN chapter for 2 minutes of gameplay).

In the second act of Hamlet, Polonious is talking to the king and queen and trying to convince them that their son’s gone mad. It would be easy, he argues, to do all the pleasantries and flowery language and complicate the message by telling them at length every possible thing that could be said. Instead, he insists it’s better to be brief, because “brevity is the soul of wit.” If you have something to say, boil it down to what needs to be said, because saying too much sometimes harms the message.

That lesson was imparted in 1603. Here we are, 419 years later and I don’t think Genshin Impact developers Hoyoverse have really grasped it.

>Sir, this is a Wendy’s

[benjipwns]

lol what the fuck

I haven't read it in a couple years but it actually was not a bad magazine, nothing amazing but consistently well written, large variety of topics at reasonable depth and better editorial standards that a lot of more prestigious publications on more serious topics. Being tied to GameStop got them plenty of access. Obviously the reviews could be like any game reviews but their standards at least made them actually readable.

This may have changed since the original and once only Editor-in-Chief finally retired after running the magazine from 1991 to I think 2020. Though I believe the second-in-command who had been there since like 1995 is who took over so it probably has not changed too much. IIRC, Dan and Jason (who were both there before Giant Bomb) both said those long time editors helped teach them how to write more clearly. Rarely seen much if any negative stories about those editors too.

Game Informer's infamous thing is probably still that Paper Mario 2 review where they defended themselves online by saying they scored it based on what they thought their readers would think the score should be rather than if they actually liked it. The actual numerical scores always seemed weird and sometimes disconnected from the text and at times they seemed to indicate the scores were determined by committee. Which considering what most every other games journalism outlet gets up to regularly is probably pretty small potatoes.

The stuff on their website has always looked to be more standard games journalism content.

[Snoopycat_]

"My boyfriend and I have been talking for a month now, video chatting every day, and a couple of days ago, we both confirmed we wanted to go to the next level and be in a relationship with each other."

Without looking, can you guess who will be all over this thread?

[Potato]

Did the burka brigade    over the swimsuits in the Xenoblade Chronicles 3 expansion pass?

[Polident Hive]

I’d ask how games journalism is sustainable in 2022. But maybe it isn’t.

[Yulwei]

I’d ask how games journalism is sustainable in 2022. But maybe it isn’t.

From what I've seen modern games journalism seems to exist solely so you can get your name out there after which you can join the big leagues (patreon bucks).

[benjipwns]

Freddie wrote about ResetERA.com again (not really...but perhaps?):

Aesthetic concerns are buried beneath the demand to be political first. If you aren’t actively singing the praises of worthless shlock that’s vaguely associated with progressive politics, you’re one of them. My god, that She-Hulk show is fucking dreadful, and its feminist politics are warmed-over Sheryl Sandberg tripe, but people are like “actually the CGI is supposed to look like dogshit, it’s artistic” because they think defending Disney’s latest blast of entertainment Soylent Green is the same as storming the Bastille. Conservatives freak about diversity, liberals defend art without any reference to artist, rinse and repeat. I could be talking about 2016’s Ghostbusters, or I could be talking about the upcoming Little Mermaid remake. Nothing ever changes, and it is all so, so tiresome.

You people get that showrunners and filmmakers know all about this now, right? You get why they’re including the part where She-Hulk looks directly into the camera and recites a slogan stolen from a sign from the first Women’s March written by a junior from Vassar, right? It makes the stuff they make exempt from criticism. These are no longer shows or movies but rather volleys in the culture war, which makes ignoring their immense flaws not just permissible but a duty for all right-thinking people. We’re already living in the hell of TV shows essentially written by Twitter; nothing is more depressing to me than pointing out all the moments that showrunners stick in their work that’s designed entirely to elicit squeals from social media. (Remember Peggy Olson walking down the hallway? Meaningless! She’s back at Sterling Cooper a few episodes later! Ah, but the gif, man, the gif!) When characters deliver awkward, stilted political speeches to camera because they know it will guarantee positive reviews and manufactured virality, it makes me feel like hope is lost. And at present, in terms of this cultural moment, hope is lost - there’s no way I can fight this tide.

The bigger thing for me, beyond the death of art and criticism I mean, is just how easy it is to inspire identitarians, just what they’re willing to consider a major political success. They are the cheapest dates imaginable.

Disney's black Ariel isn't just about diverse representation. It's also about undoing past wrongs.

… is it? Is it really? The article is profoundly unconvincing on this score. Yes, Disney did some racist portrayals in the past. That’s bad. I don’t see how you’re evening up the score by putting more Black people in your films, really; history doesn’t work that way. Also, why does an almost all-Black film like (the deeply underrated) The Princess and the Frog not right that wrong? What’s the conversion rate, here? Six Black Disney princesses for every one Song of the South? Or maybe, sometimes, pop culture is just a fun diversion, and we shouldn’t constantly go around hanging immense political consequences on it.

This relentless drive to celebrate diversity compels people to say things that just aren’t true. When Black Panther came out, people said it was the first Black superhero movie (nope) or the first Black Marvel movie (wrong again), in an effort to give it laurels it never needed, given that it’s just a really good movie. (Imagine that, a movie getting praised for being good!) Wonder Woman (2017) and Captain Marvel (2019) both, somehow, got tons of press as pioneering movies for women superheroes, despite the fact that Supergirl came out in 1984. A part of me feels that we have to be running out of “First X to Y!” More and more of these boxes are getting checked, and so you’d think the number of “First This Type of Person to Star in an Overlong Shitty CGI Spectacle with a Dissatisfying Ending!” headlines would have a shelf life. But the takes industry finds a way. How many more “First South Asian Polyamorous Rural Taoist Family in a Hulu Series!” headlines are we going to get? Apparently many many more!

None of this means that diverse casting and stories about different kinds of people are bad; they’re good. They’re cool. I’m in favor. But these choices in casting and storytelling are not racial justice.

I don’t know that the actual left can’t take a W. But the “left,” what passes for the left, can’t take a W because it’s not a political movement. It’s not a sincere attempt to positively change the world. Instead, the “left” is a) a social culture of frustrated post-college urbanites who know little about left theory or practice and who use left politics as just another way to wage petty little wars of social status with their peers, and b) a set of ambitious entrepreneurs who milk that community for all its worth in the form of podcasts, newsletters, and Twitch. The professionals sell their precious disaffection and their endlessly-workshopped little bon mots and (credit where due) wring out income streams like they’re squeezing water out of a towel. And what they know is that their audience of email-job rageaholics, that army of frustrated would-be filmmakers/musicians/social media stars, doesn’t demand constructive insight but rather anger, formless and pointless and directionless, that then gets packaged as anticapitalist politics. The “left” can’t take a W because positivity is inimical to everything that defines their culture.

[mormapope]

How to be THE videogame journalist.

1. Obtain credentials.
2. Login here using company credentials https://www.gamespress.com/en-US#?subject=43&filetype=&event=&itemtype=&country=
3. Post article using readily available resources and quotes.

Example:

Chrono Trigger 3, an unexpected sequel that has sent RPG fans into a fury, has been announced exclusively for the Poonbox 720. We reached out to director Hayate Nyshki regarding the release date. "This will be a story of time, fluid and static. It's something we hope the player will feel throughout our game."

[Snoopycat_]

How to be game journalist -

1. Go on Reddit

2. Turn some random post into 6 paragraph article.

3. Make sure to claim article is based on top secret leak you've received from insiders

4. Get super buttraged when some other guy Tweets the same Reddit info before your article comes out.

5. Stay relevant at all times by claiming you knew about every leak at least a year ago, but were waiting for confirmation

[Potato]

How to be THE videogame journalist.

1. Obtain credentials.
2. Login here using company credentials https://www.gamespress.com/en-US#?subject=43&filetype=&event=&itemtype=&country=
3. Post article using readily available resources and quotes.

Example:

Chrono Trigger 3, an unexpected sequel that has sent RPG fans into a fury, has been announced exclusively for the Poonbox 720. We reached out to director Hayate Nyshki regarding the release date. "This will be a story of time, fluid and static. It's something we hope the player will feel throughout our game."

You don't even need credentials. Free-tier access gives you all the press releases you need

[benjipwns]

You guys are making this sound like work. What if we go with:

1. Make up bullshit.
2. Get others to repeat your bullshit.
3. If someone objects to the fact that you just make up bullshit, accuse them of wanting to murder you for "sometimes getting faulty information from sources" and get others to help spread this accusation against any critics.
4. Cash dem checks.

[wsippel]

I’d ask how games journalism is sustainable in 2022. But maybe it isn’t.

It probably isn't. Fanbyte is mostly known for their guides though, and that's what Tencent wants to focus on going forward. I honestly didn't even know they had any editorial content, I don't remember ever seeing them mentioned on Reddit or anywhere else. It was evidently so irrelevant that I can't really blame Tencent shedding dead weight and doubling down on what worked.

[Uncle]

https://twitter.com/imranzomg/status/1570516429103075328

I think he's just not very good at his job?

He started at GameInformer, then he moved to one of their subsites: "Fanbyte".

His content is the most cookie cutter shit you can find anywhere
https://www.fanbyte.com/games/news/what-could-a-september-nintendo-direct-announce/
https://www.fanbyte.com/games/features/i-am-already-fatigued-by-regional-pokemon-variants/
https://www.fanbyte.com/games/features/fanbyte-staff-guesses-the-subtitle-for-final-fantasy-remake-part-iii/

There's no engagement, no originality.

Before you know it publishers start to pass you over for review copies
https://www.fanbyte.com/games/news/where-is-our-saints-row-review/

You cookie cutter mother fucker, you're just like the rest of these dudes safe moist as dudes.

[Uncle]

You guys are making this sound like work. What if we go with:

1. Make up bullshit.
2. Get others to repeat your bullshit.
3. If someone objects to the fact that you just make up bullshit, accuse them of wanting to murder you for "sometimes getting faulty information from sources" and get others to help spread this accusation against any critics.
4. Cash dem checks.

[Potato]

You guys are making this sound like work. What if we go with:

1. Make up bullshit.
2. Get others to repeat your bullshit.
3. If someone objects to the fact that you just make up bullshit, accuse them of wanting to murder you for "sometimes getting faulty information from sources" and get others to help spread this accusation against any critics.
4. Cash dem checks.

That's the gaming YouTuber playbook, not the gaming journalist playbook

[NekoFever]

In the second act of Hamlet, Polonious is talking to the king and queen and trying to convince them that their son’s gone mad. It would be easy, he argues, to do all the pleasantries and flowery language and complicate the message by telling them at length every possible thing that could be said. Instead, he insists it’s better to be brief, because “brevity is the soul of wit.” If you have something to say, boil it down to what needs to be said, because saying too much sometimes harms the message.

That lesson was imparted in 1603. Here we are, 419 years later and I don’t think Genshin Impact developers Hoyoverse have really grasped it.

>Sir, this is a Wendy’s

116 words to say “Shakespeare said brevity is the soul of wit” is some meta shit.

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-the-fuck-is-dhalsim-not-voiced-by-an-indian-person.632711/

The Woke Squad is at it again. 

“Thank you Capcom for caring about black culture… now fuck off because Dhalshim is still played by a YT, you fucks”.

Makes me wonder if Japanese companies just don't think much about voice actor's ethnicities because of very homogenous Japanese voice acting talent pool, where they take every ethnicity played by natively Japanese people as granted. Still, they really shouldn't neglect the fact that English language dubs are aimed at global audiences at large even if that diversity is lost in other dubs or isn't there in original voices.

 

This was true like 10-15 years ago, but right now most mayor AAA games game a ton of different dub options. And I bet you that those countries dubs could care less about matching ethnicity with the voice actor. Hell, most people from different countries were majority don’t speak English could care less about it 10 - 15 years ago.

[Propagandhim]

Remember when Fisher Stevens played an Indian in brown face in both Short Circuit one and two? I never 0knew that when I was young and really enjoyed the movies at the time. I fucking hate them now.

i have no idea what those movies are but yikes. upon googling that though, it seems like he regrets, or at least says he does, so i guess that's something?

40 year old movie

[Propagandhim]

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[Propagandhim]

My fucking god.  What hath I done.

[D3RANG3D]

He also played a cholo in some other 80's movie brown face was his bread and butter. 

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I'd still watch Short Circuit though. 

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[Propagandhim]

You would think especially a game that has characters that are basically global pride representatives for their individual countries of origins as such a forward theme; it would make a lot of sense. Fully agreed, it's a missed opportunity.

I must have missed when Street Fighter was about touting ethnic pride and race consciousness.  Maybe Stormfront has an editorial on why Hugo is the perfect Saxon man.

[D3RANG3D]

I'm sure reverse stormfront aka resetera does.

[Propagandhim]

Is it sad that I take Dhalsim's inclusion in the game as a major victory by itself?

Did these people just discover Street Fighter?

[Uncle]

Remember when Fisher Stevens played an Indian in brown face in both Short Circuit one and two? I never 0knew that when I was young and really enjoyed the movies at the time. I fucking hate them now.

i have no idea what those movies are but yikes. upon googling that though, it seems like he regrets, or at least says he does, so i guess that's something?

40 year old movie

the kids were watching Bedtime Stories the other day and that was only a little over 10 years ago

https://twitter.com/medwardsva/status/1200658607630622722

[Snoopycat_]

This should be fine -

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-grand-tour-a-scandi-flick-special-now-out-on-amazon-prime.632774/

1st reply -

"Louder for those in the back: Fuck Jeremy Clarkson and I wish you would stop advertising this shit here"

Oh well...

[Propagandhim]

Counterpoint: Rob Schneider is half Asian and half Jewish so he is actually calling attention to the white supremacy of poc-face.

 

[jorma]

This should be fine -

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-grand-tour-a-scandi-flick-special-now-out-on-amazon-prime.632774/

1st reply -

"Louder for those in the back: Fuck Jeremy Clarkson and I wish you would stop advertising this shit here"

Oh well...

it's like two separate threads running parallel - half the posts are "yeah, fuck him to hell and back!" and the other half are weaponising the ability to ignore those concerns by instead posting "oh, hype! watching this tonight!" without even acknowleding jeremys genocidal tendencies 

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they know what they are doing!

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[NekoFever]

This should be fine -

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-grand-tour-a-scandi-flick-special-now-out-on-amazon-prime.632774/

1st reply -

"Louder for those in the back: Fuck Jeremy Clarkson and I wish you would stop advertising this shit here"

Oh well...

I love threads like that, where there are parallel conversations going on — “Claaaarrrrkson ” and “I enjoyed his surprisingly edifying show about running a farm — check it out”.

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[knux-future]

Its funny to watch those dopes basically call for segregation when it comes to acting lol.

they don't realize that their arguments are the exact same as the "chuds" they claim to hate so much.

Would it be nice that Sim is voiced by a Indian actor? Sure...but you are now also calling for the black actor to lose his job in the process.

So progressive ha

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-the-fuck-is-dhalsim-not-voiced-by-an-indian-person.632711/

The Woke Squad is at it again. 

“Thank you Capcom for caring about black culture… now fuck off because Dhalshim is still played by a YT, you fucks”.

Makes me wonder if Japanese companies just don't think much about voice actor's ethnicities because of very homogenous Japanese voice acting talent pool, where they take every ethnicity played by natively Japanese people as granted. Still, they really shouldn't neglect the fact that English language dubs are aimed at global audiences at large even if that diversity is lost in other dubs or isn't there in original voices.

 

This was true like 10-15 years ago, but right now most mayor AAA games game a ton of different dub options. And I bet you that those countries dubs could care less about matching ethnicity with the voice actor. Hell, most people from different countries were majority don’t speak English could care less about it 10 - 15 years ago.

I guess they're at least sort of consistent by now even going after a black actors job but it also highlights how it's becoming more and more race essentialist where apparently each race now needs to stick to their own lane.

[Snoopycat_]

it's like two separate threads running parallel - half the posts are "yeah, fuck him to hell and back!" and the other half are weaponising the ability to ignore those concerns by instead posting "oh, hype! watching this tonight!" without even acknowleding jeremys genocidal tendencies 

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they know what they are doing!

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That thread highlights why a like button would rip that place apart

[Propagandhim]

I honestly don't know why, & it's disappointing. This is with all due respect to Keith Silverstein, of course. The man is hella talented, & I love seeing Black VAs succeed.

If there's any sort of silver lining, at least Dhalsim isn't voiced by a white guy this time like in past Street Fighter games.

What is this reasoning?  Their point is that representation matters.   If representation matters, it matters for all people equally -- that's the point of representation.    A black guy playing an Indian dude isn't as bad as a white guy playing an Indian dude?  Why?  What is the rationale behind this?  Are they digging into their evolutionary biology books and matching haplogroups to genetic enclaves and seeing if black people are more related to Indians?  Why is this racial mismatch less bad?   What is the fucking reasoning here?!

[Pissy F Benny]

Bitching about shit because they're conditioned to bitch about it.

[Pissy F Benny]

Algo cucks

[Uncle]

the best solution is to make a video game with only white people in it and then rightfully hire only white actors to voice them

 

[Propagandhim]

the best solution is to make a video game with only white people in it and then rightfully hire only white actors to voice them

 

That's the hilarious part of all this - they don't complain that Abel isn't voiced by a Frenchman or that Rose isn't voiced by an Italian woman.  It's just "white people", and that's fine.   But in that thread they're slamming Harada for the Chinese characters voiced by and speaking Japanese in Tekken.     These people have their own rules for everything.