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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31380 on: October 08, 2022, 07:29:56 AM »
Why not just ban racial slurs altogether :elon
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31381 on: October 08, 2022, 07:31:28 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/biden-armageddon-threat-is-back.640770/page-6#post-94510269

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I am having a panic attack over this, cool

Try growing up in the 80s. Bunch of sissies.
? ? ? This user makes a lot of suicidal threads

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31382 on: October 08, 2022, 07:47:28 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/tri-ace-is-in-trouble-and-im-worried.639930/page-5#post-94369161

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The two dollar and thirty five cents budget sure didn't help.
Duckroll I've lurked from gaf to here for years so I know you know jrpgs.

You really don't see them as salvageable at this point? I mean, this was the sentiment around Monolith at one point in time

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31383 on: October 08, 2022, 08:11:12 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/kanye-west-launches-white-lives-matter-line-for-yeezys-brings-out-candace-owens-at-show-up-claims-hes-being-threatened-in-antisemitic-texts.639399/post-94531533

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There is no excuse. There will be no quarter.

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Also, dumbest analogy I've seen on Reset to date lmao.

Of course there is an excuse. “No, that poster is black, they can sling all the slurs they like, racial or otherwise.”

Fuck that crazy ass and their quarters.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31384 on: October 08, 2022, 08:48:53 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/guillermo-del-toro-defends-scorsese-after-%E2%80%98cruel%E2%80%99-essay-calls-him-%E2%80%98uneven-talent%E2%80%99.641139/#post-94521489
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Scorsese recently slammed the Marvel Cinematic Universe, asserting that its component films are sensationalist and empty. In fact, thoughtfulness and rationalism suffuse every single one of them. In Captain America: Civil War, the vigilante nature of superheroes and costumed crime fighters is subject to profound questioning.
lmao this was his motivation for writing the article in the first place wasn't it? He's still sore about the whole MCU/Scorsese thing.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/guillermo-del-toro-defends-scorsese-after-%E2%80%98cruel%E2%80%99-essay-calls-him-%E2%80%98uneven-talent%E2%80%99.641139/#post-94521594
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Oh wow... what's Sean Egan's era handle?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31385 on: October 08, 2022, 09:39:49 AM »
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31386 on: October 08, 2022, 09:50:58 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/hellraiser-2022-ot-we-have-such-sites-to-stream-you-open-spoilers.638859/page-5

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Does anyone know why Colin Moriarty got a special thanks in the end credits?

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Anyone know why Colin Moriarty of all people got a Special Thanks in this?

I'm hoping there's just someone different in the film world with that name, otherwise it's a real bummer.

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Anyone...?

Querying this one more time in case anyone here might know, but could be evidence that peeps on this side of the forum either don't know of Colin or particularly care, but I think it's a real bummer if actually him.

 This same poster tries to stir up shit three fucking times....
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someone finally bites...
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This was the KindaFunny guy who made the NoWomanDay tweet or whatever, right? Yeah, I have no idea why he’d be on the credit. Maybe someone with the same name?


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Yeah, that guy.

The forum very staunchly, and very rightly doesn't give him a platform because he's an abhorrent individual.

Finally he gets his dopamine rush of attention and self-righteousness while effectively bringing more attention to Moriarty than he would have had otherwise.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31387 on: October 08, 2022, 10:48:53 AM »
 :lol

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31388 on: October 08, 2022, 11:12:41 AM »
A SPECIAL THANKS

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31389 on: October 08, 2022, 11:21:25 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/right-now-in-east-jerusalem-israeli-settlers-are-forcing-palestinians-out-of-their-own-homes-this-is-ethnic-cleansing-before-our-eyes-happening-now.421892/page-94#post-94541619

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31390 on: October 08, 2022, 11:25:01 AM »
Joke is on Colin though. Movie is absolute trash.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31391 on: October 08, 2022, 11:25:29 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/chlo%C3%AB-grace-moretz-became-a-recluse-because-of-people-body-shaming-her-with-a-family-guy-meme.641253/#post-94543014

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Ah feck off, dry your tears with all your money and pay someone to toughen you up a bit!
Between this and the Try Guys saying they felt trauma because their friend cheated on his wife, I am for the first time in my life seeing what conservatives mean when they say people are "too soft"

This you?

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Video games and movies use people with birth defects as villains all the time and it sucks so much. As if they aren't facing enough in their lives without people looking at them and thinking they would make a good Bond Villain.
Here's a great article from Polygon about this exact issue!

You feel more for fictional characters than real people, I guess.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31392 on: October 08, 2022, 11:30:17 AM »
In case anyone wants to know what that thread is about.



I found this youtube video explaining it.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31393 on: October 08, 2022, 11:31:46 AM »
imdb doesn't list the horrific special thanks of C*lin M*riarty but it does list this:
CJ Kitten Miller   ...   Gender & Sexuality Consultant
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CJ Kitten Miller is a Gender & Sexuality Consultant, a certified Intimacy Coordinator, and a multidisciplinary artist residing in Los Angeles/Tucson. She received her training and certification for Intimacy Coordination through the SAG accredited Centaury Co. where she also designed the Gender curriculum and serves as a guest instructor. Her most recent film contribution as a Gender & Sexuality Consultant was on Hellraiser (2022, dir. David Bruckner). She is a guitarist and frontperson for the LA based art/pop band dimber. Her multifaceted work as a dancer, poet, critical theorist, illustrator, musician, actor, and organizer all collectively focus on themes of trans, non-binary, GNC, and intersex liberation.
- IMDb Mini Biography By: CJ Kitten Miller
As the nation grapples with unjust systems of oppression — on top of the coronavirus pandemic — this performer and poet calls on us to be more compassionate.

CJ Miller is the riot grrrl L.A. — and our country — desperately needs right now. The Southern California native is a musician, songwriter, poet and performer. At the center of her work is a call for igniting empathy and socio-political awareness. In her punk band dimber, which she describes as “upbeat music for downbeat people,” Miller aims for her music to push back on white supremacy, rampant widespread transphobia and global capitalism. “Our songs are about the ways in which we can all do better to uncover the ways we support these oppressive systems,” she says. “We make happy sounding songs about supremely upsetting topics.”
There are so many things I may reach for to explain how I know I am a femme or an intersex non-binary woman but these words and concepts themselves are devised and constructed. My intersex body demonstrates itself physiologically and externally, even outside of any cultural placement. My transness may be more or less visually obvious depending on your perception. Recent endocrinological studies have demonstrated evidence that seem to indicate trans specific brain chemistry, inherent physiological and chemical demonstrations of transness that have discernible corollaries to our genders, but even then these evidences are mostly approached from a binary framework and one of a specific cultural construction. And most of this evidential framing of trans and non-binary existence, the desire for some biological “proof” of our actuality, is fodder for transphobes and all too often devised from a US/Eurocentric scientific/medical origin which has hxstorically been used to transphobic ends. This is also a system that constructed and employed eugenics as a dominant practice. We do not need to justify our existence, in ANY capacity, and certainly not within a system that has been used to harm us. There is widespread evidence of transness and non-binary existence across a great many human cultures and many of them have vast hxstorical depth.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31394 on: October 08, 2022, 11:35:16 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/guillermo-del-toro-defends-scorsese-after-%E2%80%98cruel%E2%80%99-essay-calls-him-%E2%80%98uneven-talent%E2%80%99.641139/#post-94521489
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Scorsese recently slammed the Marvel Cinematic Universe, asserting that its component films are sensationalist and empty. In fact, thoughtfulness and rationalism suffuse every single one of them. In Captain America: Civil War, the vigilante nature of superheroes and costumed crime fighters is subject to profound questioning.
You really want to go with "profound" there? It's like two minutes of the movie.

Pissy F Benny

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31395 on: October 08, 2022, 11:37:20 AM »
Gotta respect the hustle of getting your specific brand of grift nonsense into the Hollywood/corporate buraucracy :money
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31396 on: October 08, 2022, 11:41:21 AM »
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scientific/medical origin which has hxstorically been used to transphobic ends.

Don't tell me she's mad that it's spelled history  :dead

Intimacy coordinators on a film set actually make sense to me, you can choreograph the scene like not unlike a fight scene so everyone already knows what's going to happen and where it's going, but I'd probably feel less comfortable if it was a loony giving the instructions

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31397 on: October 08, 2022, 11:52:30 AM »
Intimacy coordinators on a film set actually make sense to me, you can choreograph the scene like not unlike a fight scene so everyone already knows what's going to happen and where it's going, but I'd probably feel less comfortable if it was a loony giving the instructions
Hellraiser had a different person with more than one film credit for intimacy coordinator: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0615262/
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Samantha Murray   ...   Intimacy Coordinator
CJ Kitten Miller seems to have been there purely to share their... theories... about gender and sex.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31398 on: October 08, 2022, 12:06:44 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/poker-cheating-accusation-player-takes-money-back.638805/page-16#post-94496142
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The misogyny in this topic is getting unreal. Literally posting conspiracy theory vids they found on YouTube about vibrating chairs and trying to say she is like trump and not the people believing in crazy theories. And now her having money stolen from here was all apart of her master plan to cheat it all on a 5050 chance.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/poker-cheating-accusation-player-takes-money-back.638805/page-18#post-94543596
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Funny how he uses not wanting to take a polygraph as evidence against someone when people here were saying what does a Polly prove when she said she would take one. Reads like body language experts telling people why everyone in the MCU hates bri Larson.

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Pissy F Benny

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31399 on: October 08, 2022, 12:09:17 PM »
Intimacy coordinators on a film set actually make sense to me, you can choreograph the scene like not unlike a fight scene so everyone already knows what's going to happen and where it's going, but I'd probably feel less comfortable if it was a loony giving the instructions
Hellraiser had a different person with more than one film credit for intimacy coordinator: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0615262/
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Samantha Murray   ...   Intimacy Coordinator
CJ Kitten Miller seems to have been there purely to share their... theories... about gender and sex.

Probably there to scream at some kid working as a runner who turned up wearing a Harry Potter backpack or t shirt :rash
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31400 on: October 08, 2022, 12:09:56 PM »




I found this youtube video explaining it.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31401 on: October 08, 2022, 12:27:50 PM »
Getting shamed and feeling shamed because you got long legs definitely is a new one. Guess everyone can have body image issues.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31402 on: October 08, 2022, 12:32:39 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/chlo%C3%AB-grace-moretz-became-a-recluse-because-of-people-body-shaming-her-with-a-family-guy-meme.641253/#post-94541568

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Ah feck off, dry your tears with all your money and pay someone to toughen you up a bit!
Between this and the Try Guys saying they felt trauma because their friend cheated on his wife, I am for the first time in my life seeing what conservatives mean when they say people are "too soft"
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31403 on: October 08, 2022, 12:39:57 PM »
Getting shamed and feeling shamed because you got long legs definitely is a new one. Guess everyone can have body image issues.

she said it was body dysmorphia, shitlord

that means it might be trans related somehow and there will be no quarter for anyone who questions it!


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« Reply #31404 on: October 08, 2022, 12:40:08 PM »
Is mostly because it is easier to celebrities to get pity points bully claiming they got traumatized by the internet. Like the people throwing PTSD at every stressful event.

Then again, a supermodel without body image issues is kind of rare. :yeshrug

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« Reply #31405 on: October 08, 2022, 01:15:47 PM »
Poor girl. She was great in The Equalizer and a bunch of other movies.
Of course the 'comedians' would come after her and run a funny meme into the ground :yeshrug
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31406 on: October 08, 2022, 01:16:47 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/right-now-in-east-jerusalem-israeli-settlers-are-forcing-palestinians-out-of-their-own-homes-this-is-ethnic-cleansing-before-our-eyes-happening-now.421892/page-94#post-94541619

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Thread has been stickied for over a year. I'll ask the mods to un-sticky it. We can bump it as needed or new news=new threads.

In response to the Iran protest thread being un-stickied. :lol
Watch once it gets unstickied he's gonna bitch why it was lol

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31407 on: October 08, 2022, 01:26:16 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-support-breed-specific-legislation.640734/page-7#post-94531479

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I’ve always been pretty suspicious of people presenting pit bull violence as a simple biotruth, but damn.
You can almost always- without fail- trace the sudden despising of something that was once beloved by white culture to that thing's association with Black and Brown people.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31408 on: October 08, 2022, 01:35:27 PM »
Is mostly because it is easier to celebrities to get pity points bully claiming they got traumatized by the internet. Like the people throwing PTSD at every stressful event.

Then again, a supermodel without body image issues is kind of rare. :yeshrug

I'm sure a lot of celebrities consider their appearance to be the most important aspect of themselves (and for their career, it usually is) so being even mildly ribbed probably makes them feel unusually defensive since they see it as affecting their employability as well as their sense of self-worth.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31409 on: October 08, 2022, 01:36:45 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-support-breed-specific-legislation.640734/page-7#post-94531479

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I’ve always been pretty suspicious of people presenting pit bull violence as a simple biotruth, but damn.
You can almost always- without fail- trace the sudden despising of something that was once beloved by white culture to that thing's association with Black and Brown people.

Just how can she be so dumb? People in Europe have the exact same concerns regarding pitbulls and there's no cultural connection between black people and pitbulls here. Just a hint, maybe it's the news stories of tiny kids getting mauled that made people turn on them

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« Reply #31410 on: October 08, 2022, 01:44:53 PM »
She's such a one-track-mind imbecile.  My god.


Anyway, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_dog_attacks_in_the_United_States

Ctrl + F "Pit Bull" 
This is just 2020 to 2022, and these are fatalities.  Many more of these dogs maim and disfigure people.

Feels like when Hitler would respond "The Jews" to every single social and economic problem in existence, no matter how ridiculous -- for example, "why do people ban certain dog breeds?"   And similarly, nobody's there to tell them they need to take meds.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31411 on: October 08, 2022, 02:04:35 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/kanye-west-launches-white-lives-matter-line-for-yeezys-brings-out-candace-owens-at-show-up-claims-hes-being-threatened-in-antisemitic-texts.639399/post-94531533

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This shouldn't need to be said, but here we are. Regardless of your disdain for Kanye, if you aren't Black you will be severely punished if you use slurs such as Coon and Uncle Tom. The world has not changed in ways that allow non-Black members to throw these slurs around just because we've finally found a Black person whom everyone seems to dislike equally. It's akin to when they used to say, "oops I just got caught up in the swell of the lynch mob".

There is no excuse. There will be no quarter.

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Also, dumbest analogy I've seen on Reset to date lmao.


I love how casually he drops that bullshit.  People still say lynch mob because it's not some code word against black people unless Mike Pence suddenly has a grandmother we don't know about.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31412 on: October 08, 2022, 02:06:02 PM »
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No one here is making the argument that certain breeds do not exhibit similar characteristics within the breed itself at all. What the argument is is whether or not you can ascertain from genetic similarity a "personality" of the breed as a whole, and then go on to make legisliation based upon the determination that certain breeds are significantly and predictably predisposed to aggression from a "personality" standpoint. Not even the creators of the study agree with you:

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In general, heritability is not necessarily a concept limited to just genetics; all it means is that a trait occurs across a group. Women have a higher heritability of wearing earrings than men. That doesn't mean women come out of the womb with earrings already in their ears, nor does it mean that a woman without earrings is some sort of genetic weirdo. Environment and sociology play a role in why group differences exist as well. This gets more into the weeds when you also consider that a "pit bull" is not actually a single fucking breed.

Why do all these experts on genetics and heritability always end up stacking shelves at CVS?  Nepenthe has been doing linear regression models of phenotypical trait variation in sample populations her whole life - she's debunked the whole system.  She discovered that certain dog breeds don't actually inherit genes that create a proclivity toward average differences in behavior, despite the conventional understanding.   She cracked the code.  She's fucking brilliant, why does nobody listen to them and give them a chance at a real professional job?!  Either everyone on earth discovered they're an idiot or........ the whole world is in on a giant jewish white conspiracy against them.   


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a "pit bull" is not actually a single fucking breed

It's funny, because rational people went ahead and did what your pedant mind couldn't do - grouped all these dogs into the same family based on average phenotypical and behavioral similarity.
 
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31413 on: October 08, 2022, 02:07:00 PM »
To be fair Pitbull literally killed Africa

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31414 on: October 08, 2022, 02:18:02 PM »
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In general, heritability is not necessarily a concept limited to just genetics; all it means is that a trait occurs across a group. Women have a higher heritability of wearing earrings than men.
No, no, they don't. Earrings are not a genetic trait.

Does she think women wear earrings because their father's mother may have wore earrings?

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« Reply #31415 on: October 08, 2022, 02:19:27 PM »
Quote from: Nepenthe
No one here is making the argument that certain breeds do not exhibit similar characteristics within the breed itself at all. What the argument is is whether or not you can ascertain from genetic similarity a "personality" of the breed as a whole, and then go on to make legisliation based upon the determination that certain breeds are significantly and predictably predisposed to aggression from a "personality" standpoint. Not even the creators of the study agree with you:

Quote from: Nepenthe
In general, heritability is not necessarily a concept limited to just genetics; all it means is that a trait occurs across a group. Women have a higher heritability of wearing earrings than men. That doesn't mean women come out of the womb with earrings already in their ears, nor does it mean that a woman without earrings is some sort of genetic weirdo. Environment and sociology play a role in why group differences exist as well. This gets more into the weeds when you also consider that a "pit bull" is not actually a single fucking breed.

Why do all these experts on genetics and heritability always end up stacking shelves at CVS?  Nepenthe has been doing linear regression models of phenotypical trait variation in sample populations her whole life - she's debunked the whole system.  She discovered that certain dog breeds don't actually inherit genes that create a proclivity toward average differences in behavior, despite the conventional understanding.   She cracked the code.  She's fucking brilliant, why does nobody listen to them and give them a chance at a real professional job?!  Either everyone on earth discovered they're an idiot or........ the whole world is in on a giant jewish white conspiracy against them.

Also interesting argumentation by Nepenthe to first claim that Pitbulls have been adopted into the culture of black and brown people, to the point that if you attack pitbulls you just want to attack black people cutlure, and then also argues that it's the environment they're raised in that makes Pitbulls violent...

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« Reply #31416 on: October 08, 2022, 02:22:00 PM »
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In general, heritability is not necessarily a concept limited to just genetics; all it means is that a trait occurs across a group. Women have a higher heritability of wearing earrings than men.
No, no, they don't. Earrings are not a genetic trait.

Does she think women wear earrings because their father's mother may have wore earrings?

No, i'm with Nepenthe.  Let's just get rid of sociologists once and for all.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31417 on: October 08, 2022, 02:22:21 PM »
Overheard genocide at the library today. These two high school girls (one of whom was Black smh) were talking about how the "transgenders" should get their own leagues instead of playing in women's sports. It took all my strength to resist screaming at them for listening to Joanne's fascist lies and calling the police and FBI on them.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31418 on: October 08, 2022, 02:23:53 PM »
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In general, heritability is not necessarily a concept limited to just genetics; all it means is that a trait occurs across a group. Women have a higher heritability of wearing earrings than men.
No, no, they don't. Earrings are not a genetic trait.

Does she think women wear earrings because their father's mother may have wore earrings?

 :lol  A take so bad they locked the thread so nepenthe could save face.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31419 on: October 08, 2022, 02:29:03 PM »
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No one here is making the argument that certain breeds do not exhibit similar characteristics within the breed itself at all. What the argument is is whether or not you can ascertain from genetic similarity a "personality" of the breed as a whole, and then go on to make legisliation based upon the determination that certain breeds are significantly and predictably predisposed to aggression from a "personality" standpoint. Not even the creators of the study agree with you:

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In general, heritability is not necessarily a concept limited to just genetics; all it means is that a trait occurs across a group. Women have a higher heritability of wearing earrings than men. That doesn't mean women come out of the womb with earrings already in their ears, nor does it mean that a woman without earrings is some sort of genetic weirdo. Environment and sociology play a role in why group differences exist as well. This gets more into the weeds when you also consider that a "pit bull" is not actually a single fucking breed.

Why do all these experts on genetics and heritability always end up stacking shelves at CVS?  Nepenthe has been doing linear regression models of phenotypical trait variation in sample populations her whole life - she's debunked the whole system.  She discovered that certain dog breeds don't actually inherit genes that create a proclivity toward average differences in behavior, despite the conventional understanding.   She cracked the code.  She's fucking brilliant, why does nobody listen to them and give them a chance at a real professional job?!  Either everyone on earth discovered they're an idiot or........ the whole world is in on a giant jewish white conspiracy against them.

Also interesting argumentation by Nepenthe to first claim that Pitbulls have been adopted into the culture of black and brown people, to the point that if you attack pitbulls you just want to attack black people cutlure, and then also argues that it's the environment they're raised in that makes Pitbulls violent...

No, no.  She would just tell you that she's arguing that genetic similarity hasn't been ascertained to constitute a "personality" of the breed.  So you can't outlaw them because there's no way to determine a "personality."  And because you can't ascertain a "personality" you can't attach aggression as a predisposed trait to it.   Nevermind actual real-world effects, or average differences observed in behavioral research -- no.  If you can't determine a "personality" based on a distinct genetic profile of SNPs - and if you can't find the specific gene that leads to aggression, then the whole thing doesn't matter.   Hell, you can't even define what a pitbull is :smug .  No legislation can possibly be made to address all these babies being eaten.  Especially white babies.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #31420 on: October 08, 2022, 02:31:38 PM »
Not All Men Pitbulls :social

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« Reply #31421 on: October 08, 2022, 02:37:10 PM »
nepenthe: are lions dangerous to humans?

do tigers require very specialized trainers, and even then are handled extremely carefully because they can suddenly snap and maul Roy?

what about snakes? crocodiles? hippos?

are you comfortable with your neighbor taking one of these animals on walks and saying oh he's a sweetie, he's harmless?

is there a measurable tendency for these animals to be dangerous in proximity to humans which is somehow different than that tendency when it comes to pitbulls?
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« Reply #31422 on: October 08, 2022, 02:40:28 PM »
i'm starting to get the impression this nepenthe character is a complete dipshit :doge
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« Reply #31423 on: October 08, 2022, 02:44:28 PM »
Nepenthe creates more arguments for the freedom for the average person to own a volatile breed that was created purely for violence rather than the freedom to speak freely.  The limiting factor in both arguments?  White people.

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« Reply #31424 on: October 08, 2022, 02:52:06 PM »
She can't advocate against these regulations or laws purely on the grounds of freedom because she opposes it in every other instance so she has to make up some complete nonsense like how wearing earrings is a heritable trait on the sex chromosomes. (Unlike biological sex which can't be determined from genetics.)

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« Reply #31425 on: October 08, 2022, 03:11:14 PM »
edit: oh who cares
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« Reply #31426 on: October 08, 2022, 03:17:28 PM »
I think she said she now works from home as an "artist"/"animator" contractor rather than at the pharmacy.

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« Reply #31427 on: October 08, 2022, 03:27:52 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/some-statistics-about-transphobia-in-uk-media.641328/

Great research that starts off by assuming that if the article isn't from PinkNews it's either trans hostile or at best trans neutral and then goes on about how shocking it is that those sites write articles about trans issues  :doge

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« Reply #31428 on: October 08, 2022, 03:36:08 PM »
Dave Chappelle personally writes 20% of the articles :rash
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« Reply #31429 on: October 08, 2022, 03:45:21 PM »
The problem with Pitbulls is their owners. It's stands as fact that the majority of the problem owners are of a particular type, i.e. poor, irresponsible and uneducated. Neopetenthe knows this and immediately goes on the offensive to make sure we know that she assumes that the majority of poor, irresponsible and uneducated people are black and brown.


Stormfront  :respect  Resetera
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« Reply #31430 on: October 08, 2022, 03:50:34 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/some-statistics-about-transphobia-in-uk-media.641328/

Great research that starts off by assuming that if the article isn't from PinkNews it's either trans hostile or at best trans neutral and then goes on about how shocking it is that those sites write articles about trans issues  :doge

https://twitter.com/mimmymum/status/1578411830221107200

oh my god that's so many articles! about only 1% of the population!

how many articles total were there over this period?

I mean for example if there were a total of 1005 articles released by all these publications in that period, that would mean that 99.9% of their articles were about 1% of the population!


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I think that an increase in article volume stating 2015 is to be expected just because the topic became mainstream relevant. Do they say anything about the differentiation between trans-positive, neutral or negative and how this is determined?

soon to be banned  :gun


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I remember reading ever since Rowling took up the anti trans position, the polls indicated public support for trans people had actually decreased, but I'd have to find a source for it.

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« Reply #31431 on: October 08, 2022, 03:56:26 PM »
why is being trans neutral bad? expecting everyone to love you and be your biggest supporter is the height of narcissism :trumps
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« Reply #31432 on: October 08, 2022, 03:56:43 PM »
The problem with Pitbulls is their owners.

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« Reply #31433 on: October 08, 2022, 03:59:21 PM »
I like the implicit statement that there are too many articles about trans people and everyone needs to just shut up about them  :doge

why is being trans neutral bad? expecting everyone to love you and be your biggest supporter is the height of narcissism :trumps

the neutral perspective:

we interviewed two experts, one says Pissy F Benny deserves the right to pursue happiness and the other thinks he should be literally yeeted into the sun
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« Reply #31434 on: October 08, 2022, 04:02:44 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/poker-cheating-accusation-player-takes-money-back.638805/page-17#post-94513503

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Can you spell out what conspiracy theory you are suggesting as it pertains to this theft?
Could be two things. He is taking chips from Robbi as a means of normal payment. She would know about it in this case. Or he is taking chips from Robbi as his cut of the money she gave back to Garrett that he believed he was entitled to. Now that he is caught, she can't really do anything about it because he would spill the beans. Hence why she wouldn't press charges. If he really is just randomly stealing chips from her and for some reason chose that night to do it, then he likely has done this before in the past. That story will come out and he will be screwed anyways. If this really was the first time he ever tried this, and he happened to do it the same night everything went down, then that is a pretty weird coincidence.

Keep in mind also, this isn't her money. She was staked in this game. She is fine giving others money way which is a little strange. If anything her willingness to give away money for no reason at every opportunity should end her ability to offer stakes in the future.
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« Reply #31435 on: October 08, 2022, 04:13:25 PM »
why is being trans neutral bad? expecting everyone to love you and be your biggest supporter is the height of narcissism :trumps
The human right to exist is not up for debate, chud.

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« Reply #31436 on: October 08, 2022, 04:16:23 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/even-if-it-don%E2%80%99t-fits-i-still-sits-chonky-cat-really-wants-to-fit-in-a-small-box.641244/#post-94538328

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« Reply #31437 on: October 08, 2022, 04:26:09 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-support-breed-specific-legislation.640734/#post-94460706
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Are you?
See? This is what I mean. OP it is posting the killing of a couple of children by these dogs and you're here bragging about donating the proliferation of this breed. How is this different from people who donate to gun organizations when there's a school shooting? At least show some respect.


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I'll counter your dumbass argument with an equal but opposite dumbass argument to hopefully help you understand how dumbass it is.

Are all people in the Middle East responsible for 9/11? By your logic, exterminating an entire ethnicity because of what a few members of that ethnicity have done is the simple and obvious solution, that's the real right-wing connection isn't it?

At least in my dumbass example, you're comparing living beings to living beings instead of comparing living beings to a soulless hunk of metal that has no feelings, emotions and can't be molded by how and where it's raised.


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By deflecting my response to someone who compared a violent dog breed to Muslims/Middle-Easterners, and saying people who talk about putting down dogs are on some rightwing talking points. I am not a pet owner and I don't think an entire breed of a living animal should be killed. I am not gonna sit and accept people casually comparing a particular violent breed of dog with Muslims and also throw in 9/11 as a crutch. You don't get to do that.
The guy is literally saying it's not fair to judge people by the acts of a few individuals then why is it ok to judge other animals by breed and not as individuals. Humans are fucking mammals we are all animals. What makes us better than any other animals? Also the breed isn't particularly violent stop ignoring the data in the thread all professional data says otherwise. And I posted an article that literally shows that the alt right are using these talking points it's presented with receipts. At the end of the day everything should be treated as an individual if that offends you I don't care.


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I agree with this, hate dogs


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The thread is already littered with responses disproving these by professionals more qualified than the arguments made repeatedly in this post saying this. I'm on mobile so I'm not going to deliver them to you. Genetics account for like 9% of how a dogs behavior is.


Interesting that we're supposed to believe the professionals that you deem worthy, but it's okay if you ignore other expert opinions indicating that breed has a non-negligible influence on behavior. Like this study, which asserts something completely different to the one that I'm assuming most of you are referring to, based on the 9% stat.

I mean, it's no big secret that many dog breeds were specifically bred for specific behaviors, or does anyone want to argue that shepards historically all just really liked the color of border collies? That certain behavior traits can be inherited and eventually become part of the breed has been known for a long time. It's literally the raison d'etre for certain breeds, but now we're talking about pit bulls, so suddenly breed has no influence on behavior.

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Yep cause my dog and all animals are just automatons, no different than a robot. They only ever do what instincts tell them.

You apparently have never had a pet or been around animals. Even wild animals have their own personalities (we just don't notice cause we aren't around them everyday). Just cause hey are stupider doesn't mean they just follow instincts or can't think. How do you think they learn? Did my cat just have instincts that told him that me opening a can of cat food means food? What part of instinct would have him know by default about an human made construct containing food?

You seem to have completely missed the point. Do you think that your cat learning to associate the sound of a can opening with food places its cognition on the same level as that of a human? Maybe once your cat can ponder whether the animal flesh inside that can was ethically farmed, you might be on to something. Or if your dog decides not to shit on the carpet because it knows that its wrong, instead of being scared that its owner will be upset at it and punish it.

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Literal science deniers. Seriously. At this point it’s just sad. Might as well argue with antivaxers, flat earther, etc. all of them are doing the same type of thing: pointing to blogs and poor data in articles and ignoring the actual professionals and scientist.

Interesting how based on a single study that contradicts others that came before, we're now suddenly "science deniers" or arguing in bad faith. Y'all so transparent in your bad-faith arguing that it's not even funny, just sad. In a couple of years there will be another study contradicting your favorite study and then you'd better be quiet if you don't want to be labeled a science-denier yourself.

Also, take your comparisons to anti-vaxxers and flat earthers and shove it where the sun doesn't shine. I'm out of this dumpster-fire of a thread.
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« Reply #31438 on: October 08, 2022, 04:36:15 PM »
We seriously going to start banning people for spreading misinformation?

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« Reply #31439 on: October 08, 2022, 04:39:32 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/some-statistics-about-transphobia-in-uk-media.641328/

Great research that starts off by assuming that if the article isn't from PinkNews it's either trans hostile or at best trans neutral and then goes on about how shocking it is that those sites write articles about trans issues  :doge
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