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[Taco Bell Tower]

 

[BIONIC]

Now NepNep wants to get paid?

Yes

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[Daffy Duck]

Independent thought alert

https://www.resetera.com/threads/do-you-like-isaac-new-face-in-the-dead-space-remake.664651/page-4#post-98162146

I don‘t get why talk about men being ugly/generic/whatever is tolerated on this forum, when it is so strict in many other cases (objectification of women etc.). Either shut talk like that down in general or you will have to let people be able to talk shit about the looks of other genders too, you cannot have both.

For as much as Era likes to swagger about not painting with a broad brush, there are definitely topics that the mods are happy to let get painted that way because it’s either so ingrained or they only see the worst aspects of a thing and don’t care who gets swept up in it.

It's similar with sexualization, it's OK to post about wanting Chris Redfield to break your back in those thirst threads but mention a female character's provocative clothing and you get banned

Bets on ban length?

There was a few more peeps like that too! They on the watch lists now

[Daffy Duck]

And this thread is great too

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gary-lineker-on-2026-world-cup-were-off-to-america-which-is-an-extraordinarily-racist-country.664675/page-3

[Averon]

Funny how Nep and all are all in on letting artists get paid but ran interference for Cerium to sell the joint and run away will millions. Worse yet, they defended him not giving the mods anything and were antagonistic toward users that said "Hey, maybe you mods should get something as well."

[Raist]

Piss off.

We're reducing coal mining jobs because fossil fuels are making the planet uninhabitable, and much of the protest is because the government has yet to provide assurance and protection to people in these fields that they can do something else to support themselves and their families in a capitalist reality. Like, plenty of coal miners know it's bad for the environment but want assistance to get into another comparable line of work and they just aren't receiving it; they're being left to stave.

These AI tools came out of corporate and techbros' asses specifically to just get around the idea of having to pay and credit the humans who produce the work their bots are trained off of because the artist doesn't matter, only the ability to produce shit to consume. Billionaires like Elon Musk and creatively bankrupt, thieving assholes on Reddit are literally admitting to this in the open, plain as day, and people who have never put pencil to paper and will never commit to putting in the work to be able to draw (but will call us lucky nonetheless) still keep coming in these threads with these takes that the bots are somehow necessary for a better world. Just ignorant nonsense.

This is what people mean when they say proponents of these bots hate visual artists. No idea about the situation at hand but quick to shit on us. Just say you're glad you don't actually have to pay us anymore for the content you want and get to the point faster.

ctrl+f "white"

Is... is Nepenthe OK?

[Taco Bell Tower]

Too bad Ree doesn't have signatures like thebire cuz she could have linked her kofi

[NegativeCrepe]

its totally normal for a mod to insult a user and ban them when they come back at the mod right

[Daffy Duck]

its totally normal for a mod to insult a user and ban them when they come back at the mod right

Totally normal Era behaviour

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/artstation-artists-protest-against-ai-art.664633/page-4#post-98158213

User Banned (Permanent): Troll account

Yes.

Can you stop trying to turn people interested in this stuff into the new bitcoiners? It’s very tiresome and clearly just because dems have become very deranged about tech at the moment.

 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

nep somehow got overshadowed by new paradigms, BEFORE the lease was up.

[Averon]

B-Chud's too much of a whipped boy to finally yank Nep's admin privileges. It's obvious she abuses her ability to ban people. Hell, he doesn't even need to yank her admin status. Just stop her from being able to dish out bans.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/artstation-artists-protest-against-ai-art.664633/page-4#post-98158213

User Banned (Permanent): Troll account

Yes.

Can you stop trying to turn people interested in this stuff into the new bitcoiners? It’s very tiresome and clearly just because dems have become very deranged about tech at the moment.

 

There is absolutely nothing about that account suggesting it's a troll. Just completely made up shit but the whole community is already so battered they wouldn't even dream of bringing it up. (and of course anyone who does risks getting banned)

[Boredfrom]

B-Chud's too much of a whipped boy to finally yank Nep's admin privileges. It's obvious she abuses her ability to ban people. Hell, he doesn't even need to yank her admin status. Just stop her from being able to dish out bans.

I imagine he is afraid that Nephente makes a shitshow, specially since she is the black trans woman furry moderator of RE.

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/iran-ousted-from-u-n-womens-commission-after-u-s-campaign.664843/

The Taliban's government should not be there either. It'd be nice if countries had to at least meet some rudimentary baseline in rights and something even resembling equality before they could be part of such a commission.

Agreed. Iran, Afghanistan shouldnt be there at all. America doesn't meet this baseline either and should be kicked off.

The most chicken shit nou.jpg I have seen.

“I agree but fuck you… I mean, fuck America.”

[Pissy F Benny]

idk that dude seems like the kind of guy I'd want to find a reason to ban from my website

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/artstation-artists-protest-against-ai-art.664633/#post-98152639

They can protest but it won’t do shit. It’s out there, the technology exists and it’s done. We can lament and cry and talk about ethics but it won’t matter. This kind of tech will not disappear and artists should learn to live with it. And yes this will shrink the market for digital artists and yes that sucks for them. But artists aren’t special, they are just like any other worker and should retrain if their job disappears due to technology, like millions before them.

If anything artists should fight against capitalism and for better welfare and basic income and all that. That’s the real issue, not someone generating a description of an item from Dwarf Fortress or whatever.

I can agree with this.
I can see where professional artist are coming from, but can also recognize that if you’re making it in a creative field then you are very lucky. There’s lots of people that would love to be in that position but never got the breaks to get there. Also, I think about people that can’t afford to hire an artist for work or people that want to get into some creative venture but can’t because they can’t draw. This can be a tool to at least get their foot in the door.
This is just my POV, but artist are sounding a lot like people that are pushing back in other industries because things are changing. That lone coal miner that’s upset because his livelihood is being taken away by the move toward green energy - artist, that’s you.
Just art is held on this pedestal when it’s really something that everybody can do and should engage with but since we live in a society where it’s not really valued except in certain instances and from certain outlets within specific context, most regular people aren’t engaging in creativity for fun or expression let alone being able to support themselves financially with it.
A lot of typewriter keyboardist had their worlds crushed when somebody came through to their office with a PC, but some adapted rather than get left behind. I dunno, if I was in art professionally and wanted to stay there, I’d be figuring out how to move in the new system rather than just be upset that the robots are taking my job. If AI doesn’t do something properly - you’re an artist, you can do tweaks & adjustments.
I make stuff, music is my main thing and visual artist might say “What if a robot did this thing you’re passionate about?”
Well, I too have watched “Carole & Tuesday”. Robots can make all the songs that they want and I’m sure people will enjoy them, but that doesn’t stop me from writing and recording what I want. I might not go platinum with it, but I’ve decoupled creative expression with economics a while ago so it’s not a problem for me.
I guess something more on point with this situation would be - guitarist don’t have to be too upset that samplers exist. It’s just another tool that exist and will make things easier for some people and change the process.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/artstation-artists-protest-against-ai-art.664633/page-2#post-98153269

User Banned (Permanent): Troll account

Piss off.

We're reducing coal mining jobs because fossil fuels are making the planet uninhabitable, and much of the protest is because the government has yet to provide assurance and protection to people in these fields that they can do something else to support themselves and their families in a capitalist reality. Like, plenty of coal miners know it's bad for the environment but want assistance to get into another comparable line of work and they just aren't receiving it; they're being left to stave.

These AI tools came out of corporate and techbros' asses specifically to just get around the idea of having to pay and credit the humans who produce the work their bots are trained off of because the artist doesn't matter, only the ability to produce shit to consume. Billionaires like Elon Musk and creatively bankrupt, thieving assholes on Reddit are literally admitting to this in the open, plain as day, and people who have never put pencil to paper and will never commit to putting in the work to be able to draw (but will call us lucky nonetheless) still keep coming in these threads with these takes that the bots are somehow necessary for a better world. Just ignorant nonsense.

This is what people mean when they say proponents of these bots hate visual artists. No idea about the situation at hand but quick to shit on us. Just say you're glad you don't actually have to pay us anymore for the content you want and get to the point faster.

Be mad at me all you want. Doesn’t change what’s happening. And, im not saying I want to get to the point faster. That’s you being in your feelings and I totally understand. If something was going to take my position away I’d have some sort of feelings too. I’m not even saying that you don’t have the right to feel a certain way, but in a position where it’s a job to make things for consumption then it’s adapt or get left behind.
But you know what, I’m going to let you be upset on the internet and go fuck off like you requested.

 

Three mods definitely signed off on that perm.

 


And this one too

https://www.resetera.com/threads/artstation-artists-protest-against-ai-art.664633/page-4#post-98158213

User Banned (Permanent): Troll account

Yes.

Can you stop trying to turn people interested in this stuff into the new bitcoiners? It’s very tiresome and clearly just because dems have become very deranged about tech at the moment.

 

If it wasn't for the weaponised autism that keeps the gaming side ticking over as a news aggregator, that place would have been dead a long time ago.

[Nintex]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/iran-ousted-from-u-n-womens-commission-after-u-s-campaign.664843/

The Taliban's government should not be there either. It'd be nice if countries had to at least meet some rudimentary baseline in rights and something even resembling equality before they could be part of such a commission.

Agreed. Iran, Afghanistan shouldnt be there at all. America doesn't meet this baseline either and should be kicked off.

The most chicken shit nou.jpg I have seen.

“I agree but fuck you… I mean, fuck America.”

For some reason folks have forgotten that the UN was founded on a principle of "keep your friends close but your enemies closer."
If Russia, France, Germany, England, Japan and all would hang out at the UN, they would settle their differences diplomatically instead of fighting wars. If smaller African and Arab nations had a seat at the UN, they would have some say in world and geopolitics instead of Monsieur Philipe and Colonel John Liverpool drawing up some new maps over a bottle of scotch and French cheese.

The US imposing their own values, views and politics on the UN is one of the reasons why things are going tits up right now.
It hardly worked wonders for the Arab spring.

[HaughtyFrank]

Funny how Nep and all are all in on letting artists get paid but ran interference for Cerium to sell the joint and run away will millions. Worse yet, they defended him not giving the mods anything and were antagonistic toward users that said "Hey, maybe you mods should get something as well."

The biggest scandal they all just ignored for some reason is still how "Era clear" money seemingly only went into Cerium's pocket

[benjipwns]

When the women of Ree -

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see a woman like this -

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It's most definitely her politics they're mad about

Look at this fucking IDF BITCH, she doesn't even do the twirl from the original show right for skirtgospinny and she has the ARROGANCE to call herself a woman?

[benjipwns]

Piss off.

We're reducing coal mining jobs because fossil fuels are making the planet uninhabitable, and much of the protest is because the government has yet to provide assurance and protection to people in these fields that they can do something else to support themselves and their families in a capitalist reality. Like, plenty of coal miners know it's bad for the environment but want assistance to get into another comparable line of work and they just aren't receiving it; they're being left to stave.

What "assurance" and "assistance" does she think could get coal miners into "another comparable line of work"?

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/iran-ousted-from-u-n-womens-commission-after-u-s-campaign.664843/

The Taliban's government should not be there either. It'd be nice if countries had to at least meet some rudimentary baseline in rights and something even resembling equality before they could be part of such a commission.

Agreed. Iran, Afghanistan shouldnt be there at all. America doesn't meet this baseline either and should be kicked off.

Would be great to see him make a baseline and the list of the countries that meet it.

 

[BikeJesus]

Yes, America is just as bad as places where women can't go outside with their hair exposed. I think being able to leave the house without an escort is a pretty good baseline.

[Potato]

"People who live in places that are nowhere near me said something mean online about people like me once. It's basically Afghanistan!"

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/5-years-ago-today-disney-announced-it-was-set-to-buy-most-of-fox-corporation-assets-nat-geo-fx-simpsons-20th-century.664795/

Making anniversary threads for corporate buyouts 

[Taco Bell Tower]

Speaking of Marvel
https://www.resetera.com/threads/james-gunn-writing-superman-movie.664972/

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/elon-musk-twitter-drama-ot-let’s-keep-it-here-parody-🔵-official-ꕤ-up-musk-exposes-that-twitter-censored-stolen-naked-pictures.649272/page-453#post-98199124

He still tried to play it off as “unhinged SF leftists” but has to rationalize that with the fact that they paid money to attend a bigot’s show. That can’t be easy to square.

It was Trump rally or what?

At worst, they are a not woke audience… but is still SF (that should tell you how little Chapelle imaginary bigotry matters while Elon fucking with a “local” company).

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/elon-musk-twitter-drama-ot-let’s-keep-it-here-parody-🔵-official-ꕤ-up-musk-exposes-that-twitter-censored-stolen-naked-pictures.649272/page-453#post-98199124

He still tried to play it off as “unhinged SF leftists” but has to rationalize that with the fact that they paid money to attend a bigot’s show. That can’t be easy to square.

Not that hard to square SF leftists not being as unhinged as ResetERA.com members, for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_San_Francisco_Board_of_Education_recall_elections

[BrokenVerses]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/elon-musk-twitter-drama-ot-let’s-keep-it-here-parody-🔵-official-ꕤ-up-musk-exposes-that-twitter-censored-stolen-naked-pictures.649272/page-453#post-98199124

He still tried to play it off as “unhinged SF leftists” but has to rationalize that with the fact that they paid money to attend a bigot’s show. That can’t be easy to square.

Not that hard to square SF leftists not being as unhinged as ResetERA.com members, for example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_San_Francisco_Board_of_Education_recall_elections

And Chesa Boudin getting toppled of course.

[benjipwns]

That was what I was first going to go with but I had two reflections about it:
1. Only 55% voted to recall him unlike the 67-75% that did the school board. I think it's funnier that "the right side of history" who constantly claims non-bigot-fascists (aka The People) are actually on their side are only like 33% of San Francisco voters at best.
A. Boudin was/is pretty true to a number of ACAB principles no matter the political consequences, ResetERA.com only supported him out of hive mentality. If Boudin had tried to save his skin by saying something meaningless like "I will listen to the people and thanks to my reforms we now have the resources to be flexible and redirect to the concern areas that inspired this effort" rather than trying to claim the entire thing was a right-wing plot against him they would have turned on him in a heartbeat even though this would be in line with the exact purported reasoning behind the Defund The Police movement ResetERA.com claims to support.

[benjipwns]

That was what I was first going to go with but I had two reflections about it:
1. Only 55% voted to recall him unlike the 67-75% that did the school board. I think it's funnier that "the right side of history" who constantly claims non-bigot-fascists (aka The People) are actually on their side are only like 33% of San Francisco voters at best.
A. Boudin was/is pretty true to a number of ACAB principles no matter the political consequences, ResetERA.com only supported him out of hive mentality. If Boudin had tried to save his skin by saying something meaningless like "I will listen to the people and thanks to my reforms we now have the resources to be flexible and redirect to the concern areas that inspired this effort" rather than trying to claim the entire thing was a right-wing plot against him they would have turned on him in a heartbeat even though this would be in line with the exact purported reasoning behind the Defund The Police movement ResetERA.com claims to support.

Thanks for explaining the joke, this is why we trust you.

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/christopher-nolans-oppenheimer-trailer-leak-cam.665014/

Period piece with pensive looking white people

 

What you wish to this be?

[SmokyDave]

“Meet Adam Bomb. A mild mannered BLACK scientist who, after an experiment goes wrong…..”

[Polident Hive]

Didn’t that happen? Could’ve been a joke people ran with, but something about marvels immortals having the gay black guy played by paper boi causing Hiroshima. It sounds fake. That’s too stupid.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Speaking of Marvel
https://www.resetera.com/threads/james-gunn-writing-superman-movie.664972/

They gave cavill and out and all these suckers are eating it up.

Good on henry for playing it up. that paycheck must be nice.

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/christopher-nolans-oppenheimer-trailer-leak-cam.665014/

Period piece with pensive looking white people

 

What you wish to this be?

They could at least gender swap the lead and maybe make them trans or non-binary. Would it be that much to ask that they also make her non-Jewish because Israel is a fascist apartheid state and it triggers my OCDPTSDLGBTQI

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/christopher-nolans-oppenheimer-trailer-leak-cam.665014/

Period piece with pensive looking white people

 

What you wish to this be?

Yes.

Actually, idk wtf he means lol

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/south-korea-is-making-every-citizen-a-year-younger.663868/

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/south-korea-is-making-every-citizen-a-year-younger.663868/#post-98032645

User Banned (2 Weeks): Dismissive Commentary and Antagonizing Minority Members

ou realise it’s South Korea themselves that are changing this, right? Some of the reactions in here are so over the top it’s hilarious. Apparently 80% of South Koreans also support the change. Weird behaviour altogether in here.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/south-korea-is-making-every-citizen-a-year-younger.663868/page-2#post-98034016

User Banned (1 Week): Inflammatory False Equivalence Around Cultural Differences

A1/4 of Era threads consist of some variant of "why do Americans do (literally anything) different than other countries? Fucking idiots lol!!!", but whoooa don't question why South Korea is doing something differently.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/south-korea-is-making-every-citizen-a-year-younger.663868/page-3#post-98057092

User Banned (Duration Pending Further Admin Review): Dismissive Commentary Around Cultural Differences; Numerous Prior Severe Bans for Dismissive Behavior

I don't know for South Korea, but some cultures believe you can't be zero years old, since zero would mean you don't exist. So at birth, you are 1.

This is so dumb. "If you don't have a full cake, it doesn't exist"

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/artstation-artists-protest-against-ai-art.664633/page-11#post-98189107

User Banned (1 Month): Drive-by trolling, a history of trolling and inflammatory posting

Learn 2 Code

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Can't wait until MOBA uses AI for mods.


RIP NEP

[Joe Molotov]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/christopher-nolans-oppenheimer-trailer-leak-cam.665014/

Period piece with pensive looking white people

 

What you wish to this be?

I read this as "expensive looking white people"

[BIONIC]

Can't wait until MOBA uses AI for mods.


RIP NEP

You think nepnep isn’t an AI construct? 

[BrokenVerses]

That was what I was first going to go with but I had two reflections about it:
1. Only 55% voted to recall him unlike the 67-75% that did the school board. I think it's funnier that "the right side of history" who constantly claims non-bigot-fascists (aka The People) are actually on their side are only like 33% of San Francisco voters at best.
A. Boudin was/is pretty true to a number of ACAB principles no matter the political consequences, ResetERA.com only supported him out of hive mentality. If Boudin had tried to save his skin by saying something meaningless like "I will listen to the people and thanks to my reforms we now have the resources to be flexible and redirect to the concern areas that inspired this effort" rather than trying to claim the entire thing was a right-wing plot against him they would have turned on him in a heartbeat even though this would be in line with the exact purported reasoning behind the Defund The Police movement ResetERA.com claims to support.

Thanks for explaining the joke, this is why we trust you.

Kinda feel like you missed the easy lay-up of Boudin's "temper tantrum" comment and ResetEra mods opining on boys will be boys causing chaos beating an elderly man to death in the street.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Can't wait until MOBA uses AI for mods.


RIP NEP

You think nepnep isn’t an AI construct? 

An AI would have asked for a raise by now.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2022-ot-3-dark-brandons-revenge.653901/page-76#post-98190619

im not here to play inside baseball like everyone else in the thread, there's consequences to inside baseball talk and no one ever does anything about it

im not here to play inside baseball and any of that sorta thing, im here because there's gotta be consequencies for words buddy

 

[joeboy101]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2022-ot-3-dark-brandons-revenge.653901/page-76#post-98190619

im not here to play inside baseball like everyone else in the thread, there's consequences to inside baseball talk and no one ever does anything about it

im not here to play inside baseball and any of that sorta thing, im here because there's gotta be consequencies for words buddy

 

Dafuq does this even mean? Aside from showing their obsession with the phrase ‘inside baseball’.

[Joe Molotov]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2022-ot-3-dark-brandons-revenge.653901/page-76#post-98190619

im not here to play inside baseball like everyone else in the thread, there's consequences to inside baseball talk and no one ever does anything about it

im not here to play inside baseball and any of that sorta thing, im here because there's gotta be consequencies for words buddy

 

Dafuq does this even mean? Aside from showing their obsession with the phrase ‘inside baseball’.

It means that consequences will never be the same (for inside baseball).

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/artstation-artists-protest-against-ai-art.664633/#post-98152639

They can protest but it won’t do shit. It’s out there, the technology exists and it’s done. We can lament and cry and talk about ethics but it won’t matter. This kind of tech will not disappear and artists should learn to live with it. And yes this will shrink the market for digital artists and yes that sucks for them. But artists aren’t special, they are just like any other worker and should retrain if their job disappears due to technology, like millions before them.

If anything artists should fight against capitalism and for better welfare and basic income and all that. That’s the real issue, not someone generating a description of an item from Dwarf Fortress or whatever.

I can agree with this.
I can see where professional artist are coming from, but can also recognize that if you’re making it in a creative field then you are very lucky. There’s lots of people that would love to be in that position but never got the breaks to get there. Also, I think about people that can’t afford to hire an artist for work or people that want to get into some creative venture but can’t because they can’t draw. This can be a tool to at least get their foot in the door.
This is just my POV, but artist are sounding a lot like people that are pushing back in other industries because things are changing. That lone coal miner that’s upset because his livelihood is being taken away by the move toward green energy - artist, that’s you.
Just art is held on this pedestal when it’s really something that everybody can do and should engage with but since we live in a society where it’s not really valued except in certain instances and from certain outlets within specific context, most regular people aren’t engaging in creativity for fun or expression let alone being able to support themselves financially with it.
A lot of typewriter keyboardist had their worlds crushed when somebody came through to their office with a PC, but some adapted rather than get left behind. I dunno, if I was in art professionally and wanted to stay there, I’d be figuring out how to move in the new system rather than just be upset that the robots are taking my job. If AI doesn’t do something properly - you’re an artist, you can do tweaks & adjustments.
I make stuff, music is my main thing and visual artist might say “What if a robot did this thing you’re passionate about?”
Well, I too have watched “Carole & Tuesday”. Robots can make all the songs that they want and I’m sure people will enjoy them, but that doesn’t stop me from writing and recording what I want. I might not go platinum with it, but I’ve decoupled creative expression with economics a while ago so it’s not a problem for me.
I guess something more on point with this situation would be - guitarist don’t have to be too upset that samplers exist. It’s just another tool that exist and will make things easier for some people and change the process.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/artstation-artists-protest-against-ai-art.664633/page-2#post-98153269

User Banned (Permanent): Troll account

Piss off.

We're reducing coal mining jobs because fossil fuels are making the planet uninhabitable, and much of the protest is because the government has yet to provide assurance and protection to people in these fields that they can do something else to support themselves and their families in a capitalist reality. Like, plenty of coal miners know it's bad for the environment but want assistance to get into another comparable line of work and they just aren't receiving it; they're being left to stave.

These AI tools came out of corporate and techbros' asses specifically to just get around the idea of having to pay and credit the humans who produce the work their bots are trained off of because the artist doesn't matter, only the ability to produce shit to consume. Billionaires like Elon Musk and creatively bankrupt, thieving assholes on Reddit are literally admitting to this in the open, plain as day, and people who have never put pencil to paper and will never commit to putting in the work to be able to draw (but will call us lucky nonetheless) still keep coming in these threads with these takes that the bots are somehow necessary for a better world. Just ignorant nonsense.

This is what people mean when they say proponents of these bots hate visual artists. No idea about the situation at hand but quick to shit on us. Just say you're glad you don't actually have to pay us anymore for the content you want and get to the point faster.

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Be mad at me all you want. Doesn’t change what’s happening. And, im not saying I want to get to the point faster. That’s you being in your feelings and I totally understand. If something was going to take my position away I’d have some sort of feelings too. I’m not even saying that you don’t have the right to feel a certain way, but in a position where it’s a job to make things for consumption then it’s adapt or get left behind.
But you know what, I’m going to let you be upset on the internet and go fuck off like you requested.

 

Nepenthe mad at someone saying that to some extent 'being an artist' comes from a place of privilege.

Also Nepenthe:

People complain about other people's lack of awe at high donation amounts all the time, and the refutation is usually "They're doing more than you are!"

Do people who throw out this thought-terminating cliche ever stop to think that volunteering for a charity is actually a luxury? Even the time needed to be spent on volunteering is dependent upon your occupation, your able-bodied mess, your income, access to reliable transportation, if you have any dependents, etc.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/iran-ousted-from-u-n-womens-commission-after-u-s-campaign.664843/

The Taliban's government should not be there either. It'd be nice if countries had to at least meet some rudimentary baseline in rights and something even resembling equality before they could be part of such a commission.

Agreed. Iran, Afghanistan shouldnt be there at all. America doesn't meet this baseline either and should be kicked off.

Would be great to see him make a baseline and the list of the countries that meet it.

 

Well, they can't be COLONIZERS like THE WEST and they can't OBJECTIFY WOMEN THROUGH RELIGION like THE WEST, or ATTACK OTHERS IN HOLY WARS like THE WEST, so I guess.... Afghanistan? Syria?

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I can't NOT believe the writer of this review is an era member and also one of the "RLM are alt-right" posters

https://www.eurogamer.net/high-on-life-review-a-mediocre-shooter-with-an-unfunny-attitude-problem

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Also, what's eras backlash against recent AI developments?
It seems like just the other day they were praising AI chatbots as being possible replacements for doctors when they would give the affirming diagnosis they wanted after multiple attempts to corroborate their self diagnoses.

[joeboy101]

Funky Dude Sparks dude, why do you keep double and triple posting like this is a text conversation

?

because every time there's """""debt ceiling crisis""" it honest to god feels like a personal attack upon me and other disabled people and I have nowhere else to post my stuff at

Someone missed their medication this morning.

 

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/james-cameron-in-conversation-with-robert-rodriguez-explains-his-pov-on-female-empowerment.665140/
Incelsiorlef backfired thread and of course some people who never read articles before throwing in their hot takes.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/james-cameron-in-conversation-with-robert-rodriguez-explains-his-pov-on-female-empowerment.665140/
Incelsiorlef backfired thread and of course some people who never read articles before throwing in their hot takes.

I promise you Excel is secretly mad because she thinks that calling pregnancy and motherhood the most feminine experience possible is transphobic.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Incelsiorlef

This is another excel backfire. I love her regardless

Nah I'm right lol

And I was very conciliatory to his position up to a certain point

https://www.resetera.com/threads/james-cameron-in-conversation-with-robert-rodriguez-explains-his-pov-on-female-empowerment.665140/page-2#post-98223514
Couple posts later incelsiorlef replies to that same post
https://www.resetera.com/threads/james-cameron-in-conversation-with-robert-rodriguez-explains-his-pov-on-female-empowerment.665140/page-2#post-98224213

Also if I was worried about significant disagreement I wouldn't make a thread that's not conciliatory towards James Cameron

You're kidding me if you think I wrote this thread expecting a choir.

Polite conversation and debate is good.

Shit my thread title was completely snark free.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/‘nepo-babies’-and-the-trouble-with-acting-families.665065/page-5#post-98236009

Did half this forum get jobs from who their parents are or something? Lol

Nope my parents helped me through acting school financially but I wthdrew from trying to break in for the exact reasons I've argued here. It's extremely difficult to do everything that needs to be done and provide for yourself so I chose to appreciate the experiences i got from school and just work a basic job that keeps me fed and clothed with a roof over my head and with entertainment to enjoy (and both my sojourns into acting and film school have given me a really fun understanding of things that enhance my critical viewing)

Fresh off the doxxing press.

And at the bolded

[Boredfrom]

Also, what's eras backlash against recent AI developments?
It seems like just the other day they were praising AI chatbots as being possible replacements for doctors when they would give the affirming diagnosis they wanted after multiple attempts to corroborate their self diagnoses.

Porn artists and influencers are probably bitching about it at social media, not that I totally blame them. ERA obviously has no nuance to talk about or not sound like total hypocrites given people still speaking positively of AI Chatbox elsewhere in the site (and probably by the same users bitching about AI art).

AI talk and discourse in general seems to be pretty abysmal since there is no middle ground of “AI replacing writers and artists” to “AI being a glorified copy paste program”.

[PogiJones]

• Every human artist is also "stealing" (i.e. learning) from others' art; otherwise you'd all still be doing cave paintings. You take what others do and transform it.
• No, typing a prompt into an AI doesn't make you an artist, any more than paying a human artist to draw your fetish makes you an artist.
• Yes, it sucks when your industry starts replacing you with automated machines. It's happened for over a hundred years, you'll get over it.

It's really not complicated.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/artstation-artists-protest-against-ai-art.664633/#post-98152639

They can protest but it won’t do shit. It’s out there, the technology exists and it’s done. We can lament and cry and talk about ethics but it won’t matter. This kind of tech will not disappear and artists should learn to live with it. And yes this will shrink the market for digital artists and yes that sucks for them. But artists aren’t special, they are just like any other worker and should retrain if their job disappears due to technology, like millions before them.

If anything artists should fight against capitalism and for better welfare and basic income and all that. That’s the real issue, not someone generating a description of an item from Dwarf Fortress or whatever.

I can agree with this.
I can see where professional artist are coming from, but can also recognize that if you’re making it in a creative field then you are very lucky. There’s lots of people that would love to be in that position but never got the breaks to get there. Also, I think about people that can’t afford to hire an artist for work or people that want to get into some creative venture but can’t because they can’t draw. This can be a tool to at least get their foot in the door.
This is just my POV, but artist are sounding a lot like people that are pushing back in other industries because things are changing. That lone coal miner that’s upset because his livelihood is being taken away by the move toward green energy - artist, that’s you.
Just art is held on this pedestal when it’s really something that everybody can do and should engage with but since we live in a society where it’s not really valued except in certain instances and from certain outlets within specific context, most regular people aren’t engaging in creativity for fun or expression let alone being able to support themselves financially with it.
A lot of typewriter keyboardist had their worlds crushed when somebody came through to their office with a PC, but some adapted rather than get left behind. I dunno, if I was in art professionally and wanted to stay there, I’d be figuring out how to move in the new system rather than just be upset that the robots are taking my job. If AI doesn’t do something properly - you’re an artist, you can do tweaks & adjustments.
I make stuff, music is my main thing and visual artist might say “What if a robot did this thing you’re passionate about?”
Well, I too have watched “Carole & Tuesday”. Robots can make all the songs that they want and I’m sure people will enjoy them, but that doesn’t stop me from writing and recording what I want. I might not go platinum with it, but I’ve decoupled creative expression with economics a while ago so it’s not a problem for me.
I guess something more on point with this situation would be - guitarist don’t have to be too upset that samplers exist. It’s just another tool that exist and will make things easier for some people and change the process.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/artstation-artists-protest-against-ai-art.664633/page-2#post-98153269

User Banned (Permanent): Troll account

Piss off.

We're reducing coal mining jobs because fossil fuels are making the planet uninhabitable, and much of the protest is because the government has yet to provide assurance and protection to people in these fields that they can do something else to support themselves and their families in a capitalist reality. Like, plenty of coal miners know it's bad for the environment but want assistance to get into another comparable line of work and they just aren't receiving it; they're being left to stave.

These AI tools came out of corporate and techbros' asses specifically to just get around the idea of having to pay and credit the humans who produce the work their bots are trained off of because the artist doesn't matter, only the ability to produce shit to consume. Billionaires like Elon Musk and creatively bankrupt, thieving assholes on Reddit are literally admitting to this in the open, plain as day, and people who have never put pencil to paper and will never commit to putting in the work to be able to draw (but will call us lucky nonetheless) still keep coming in these threads with these takes that the bots are somehow necessary for a better world. Just ignorant nonsense.

This is what people mean when they say proponents of these bots hate visual artists. No idea about the situation at hand but quick to shit on us. Just say you're glad you don't actually have to pay us anymore for the content you want and get to the point faster.

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Be mad at me all you want. Doesn’t change what’s happening. And, im not saying I want to get to the point faster. That’s you being in your feelings and I totally understand. If something was going to take my position away I’d have some sort of feelings too. I’m not even saying that you don’t have the right to feel a certain way, but in a position where it’s a job to make things for consumption then it’s adapt or get left behind.
But you know what, I’m going to let you be upset on the internet and go fuck off like you requested.

 

Nepenthe mad at someone saying that to some extent 'being an artist' comes from a place of privilege.

Also Nepenthe:

People complain about other people's lack of awe at high donation amounts all the time, and the refutation is usually "They're doing more than you are!"

Do people who throw out this thought-terminating cliche ever stop to think that volunteering for a charity is actually a luxury? Even the time needed to be spent on volunteering is dependent upon your occupation, your able-bodied mess, your income, access to reliable transportation, if you have any dependents, etc.

Just banning people because they dare to disagree, nothing to see here. (If Nepenthe wasn't drawing herself she'd probably call everyone racist because they want to deny PoC those AI tools)

[Boredfrom]

• Every human artist is also "stealing" (i.e. learning) from others' art; otherwise you'd all still be doing cave paintings. You take what others do and transform it.
• No, typing a prompt into an AI doesn't make you an artist, any more than paying a human artist to draw your fetish makes you an artist.
• Yes, it sucks when your industry starts replacing you with automated machines. It's happened for over a hundred years, you'll get over it.

It's really not complicated.