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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #35340 on: December 17, 2022, 11:10:08 AM »
what a fucking loser :heh
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« Reply #35341 on: December 17, 2022, 11:23:33 AM »
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I think the guilt of using my privilege to leave behind folks that could use my skills / monetary donations / vote would eat at me too much. The USA is my birth country though, and my friends and family are here, so I don't think I'd leave just because of all the people I care about here anyway.

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I’d totes emigrate but Hilary needs my vote


https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-left-the-us-after-20-years-and-2-years-later-it-was-the-best-decision-i-ever-made-for-my-mental-health.665683/page-2#post-98302900

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« Reply #35342 on: December 17, 2022, 11:33:41 AM »
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I think the guilt of using my privilege to leave behind folks that could use my skills / monetary donations / vote would eat at me too much. The USA is my birth country though, and my friends and family are here, so I don't think I'd leave just because of all the people I care about here anyway.

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I’d totes emigrate but Hilary needs my vote


https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-left-the-us-after-20-years-and-2-years-later-it-was-the-best-decision-i-ever-made-for-my-mental-health.665683/page-2#post-98302900

It's unfortunately impossible to vote and donate from outside the country.  :fbm

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US citizens living abroad enjoy full federal voting rights, regardless of how long they have lived abroad.

Simply impossible. If it wasn't for that I'd be out in a heartbeat :fbm

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #35343 on: December 17, 2022, 11:34:25 AM »
Do you remember that thing Henry Cavill said and apologized for four years ago? ZeoVGM remembers.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/henry-cavill-and-gal-gadot%E2%80%99s-cameos-removed-in-the-flash.665725/page-4#post-98302219
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He apologized after the backlash. Hopefully he's grown from that but the fact that he had those thoughts at all is incredibly problematic.

Zeo is such a dumb cunt. Cavill's comments aren't even that wrong when you consider how often RE goes "An actor hitting on someone who isn't famous? Think of the power dynamics. Rapist much?". At worst Cavill was just tone deaf making it about his dating life while metoo was going on


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #35344 on: December 17, 2022, 11:37:42 AM »
Do you remember that thing Henry Cavill said and apologized for four years ago? ZeoVGM remembers.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/henry-cavill-and-gal-gadot%E2%80%99s-cameos-removed-in-the-flash.665725/page-4#post-98302219

Gunn is expectational tho cuz Marvel and plus far right chuds tried to get him cancelled!

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« Reply #35345 on: December 17, 2022, 11:47:46 AM »
Do you remember that thing Henry Cavill said and apologized for four years ago? ZeoVGM remembers.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/henry-cavill-and-gal-gadot%E2%80%99s-cameos-removed-in-the-flash.665725/page-4#post-98302219

Gunn is expectational tho cuz Marvel and plus far right chuds tried to get him cancelled!

Zeo even defends Gunn by saying it was just "edgy," and designed to be "humor."  Zeo did a scan on Cavill and determined  "It was his real thoughts."  Case Closed

https://www.resetera.com/threads/henry-cavill-and-gal-gadot%E2%80%99s-cameos-removed-in-the-flash.665725/post-98302987
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« Reply #35346 on: December 17, 2022, 11:53:16 AM »
Do you remember that thing Henry Cavill said and apologized for four years ago? ZeoVGM remembers.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/henry-cavill-and-gal-gadot%E2%80%99s-cameos-removed-in-the-flash.665725/page-4#post-98302219

Gunn is expectational tho cuz Marvel and plus far right chuds tried to get him cancelled!

Zeo even defends Gunn by saying it was just "edgy," and designed to be "humor."  Zeo did a scan on Cavill and determined  "It was his real thoughts."  Case Closed

https://www.resetera.com/threads/henry-cavill-and-gal-gadot%E2%80%99s-cameos-removed-in-the-flash.665725/post-98302987
Another user is pointing it out and ZeoVagina is getting very defensive about it lol

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #35347 on: December 17, 2022, 12:16:00 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/avatar-the-way-of-water-reviews-thread.664363/page-22#post-98312236

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I was team JC till I saw this.

What the fuck Cameron
Yeah, better that he just give lip service to indigenous displacement than actually respond to their requests and draw attention to their fights with the local government trying to displace them. And what was he thinking actually accepting their headdress they offered him? What an insensitive dumbass to not reject their offer.

I don’t know what story you guys are trying to spin here anymore. Why is Cameron spending the better part of a year following Avatar’s success travelling and shining a light on the real fights these people are up against a bad thing now?

Oh so Cameron is now LITERALLY a white saviour lol lol lol fuck this guy. As if him telling a story that you see as the white saviour trope and then not actually giving a shit about the realities of it would be better? Some of you are trying too hard.

You guys can watch some of it.

youtu.be
DN! James Cameron (1) Fights For Indiginous Tribes.flv
Avatar Director James Cameron Follows Box Office Success with Advocacy for Indigenous StrugglesOn the heels of his record-setting Hollywood blockbuster Avata...
youtu.be youtu.be

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« Reply #35348 on: December 17, 2022, 12:41:01 PM »
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People are correctly linking those photos with the 2010 interview and the movies themselves using the Na'vi as native americans.
Not to mention the white kid with dreadlocks and Kate Winslet character.

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« Reply #35349 on: December 17, 2022, 12:44:28 PM »
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Oh so Cameron is now LITERALLY a white saviour lol lol lol fuck this guy. As if him telling a story that you see as the white saviour trope and then not actually giving a shit about the realities of it would be better? Some of you are trying too hard.


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« Reply #35350 on: December 17, 2022, 12:48:50 PM »
That's NepNep 's alt!

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« Reply #35351 on: December 17, 2022, 01:36:16 PM »
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People are correctly linking those photos with the 2010 interview and the movies themselves using the Na'vi as native americans.
Not to mention the white kid with dreadlocks and Kate Winslet character.

 :shaking

That's NepNep 's alt!

I've honestly been waiting for a big poo-flinging from Nep about White Dreadlocks now that the movie is out.

Something along the lines of

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Can you you believe it?  I mean, just UGH.  Like how can you do this today?  What, you don't understand why it's bad, well, uh, that's the problem right there, it's just sooooo  . . . I don't have to explain it to you!  This is not my burden  This is just wrong and bad because ...  it's ...  just like  ...  complete ...  and totally in line with what hollywood does when they do this thing!
And then later link to some 2 hour youtube vid with people replying, This Right Here!  and Thank you so much!!!  within seconds.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #35352 on: December 17, 2022, 01:38:28 PM »
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People are correctly linking those photos with the 2010 interview and the movies themselves using the Na'vi as native americans.
Not to mention the white kid with dreadlocks and Kate Winslet character.

 :shaking


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« Reply #35353 on: December 17, 2022, 01:44:54 PM »
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People are correctly linking those photos with the 2010 interview and the movies themselves using the Na'vi as native americans.
Not to mention the white kid with dreadlocks and Kate Winslet character.

 :shaking



I wish more movies had Jack Black murdered.  He's great at it!

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #35354 on: December 17, 2022, 02:13:15 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/avatar-the-way-of-water-reviews-thread.664363/page-22#post-98312236

Quote from: Scullibundo
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I was team JC till I saw this.

What the fuck Cameron
Yeah, better that he just give lip service to indigenous displacement than actually respond to their requests and draw attention to their fights with the local government trying to displace them. And what was he thinking actually accepting their headdress they offered him? What an insensitive dumbass to not reject their offer.

I don’t know what story you guys are trying to spin here anymore. Why is Cameron spending the better part of a year following Avatar’s success travelling and shining a light on the real fights these people are up against a bad thing now?

Oh so Cameron is now LITERALLY a white saviour lol lol lol fuck this guy. As if him telling a story that you see as the white saviour trope and then not actually giving a shit about the realities of it would be better? Some of you are trying too hard.

You guys can watch some of it.

youtu.be
DN! James Cameron (1) Fights For Indiginous Tribes.flv
Avatar Director James Cameron Follows Box Office Success with Advocacy for Indigenous StrugglesOn the heels of his record-setting Hollywood blockbuster Avata...
youtu.be youtu.be

 :popcorn

Sculli is on real thin ice. First he dares to insult Wakanda by posting an official review and now he claims that it's actually a good thing that Cameron puts money where his mouth is

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #35355 on: December 17, 2022, 02:14:55 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/researchers-say-time-is-an-illusion-so-why-are-we-all-obsessed-with-it.665965/#post-98328571

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« Reply #35356 on: December 17, 2022, 02:20:52 PM »
Nobody ever braided their hair that wasn't black. Nobody ever put dreads in their hair that wasn't black.

This is fact. It is known.

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Some of the earliest depictions of dreadlocks date back as far as 1600–1500 BCE in the Minoan Civilization, one of Europe's earliest civilizations, centred in Crete (now part of Greece).[4] Frescoes discovered on the Aegean island of Thera (modern Santorini, Greece) depict individuals with long braided hair or long dreadlocks


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #35357 on: December 17, 2022, 02:24:27 PM »
Yeah but ahshually greek people are black so.

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« Reply #35358 on: December 17, 2022, 02:28:51 PM »
Yeah but ahshually greek people are black so.
That's where the Poles come in

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Larry Wolff in his book Inventing Eastern Europe: The Map of Civilization on the Mind of Enlightenment[full citation needed] mentions that in Poland, for about a thousand years, some people wore a knotted hairstyle similar to that of some Scythians. Zygmunt Gloger in his Encyklopedia staropolska mentions that the Polish plait (plica polonica) hairstyle was worn by some people in the Pinsk region and the Masovia region at the beginning of the 19th century. The Polish plait can vary between one large plait and multiple plaits that resemble dreadlocks.[17]




Obviously these people were the black people that should have been represented in Kingdom Come
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #35359 on: December 17, 2022, 03:33:11 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/was-damian-wayne-a-good-addition-to-the-batman-mythos.665872/#post-98317489
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I feel like it does take away a bit of Batman as a loner who occasionally takes in kids from unfortunate circumstances.

Now he’s a dad with a Robin who while worthy is a bit entitled.

I feel like making him more gap moe and not Robin would make him work better - don’t take away from the boys and girls who “earn” the role and also don’t take away from them being his kids as well - the “good ones” to Damian’s “Good Son” (as in Mac).

Now that said, that’s me being someone who’s trying to stay true to the first nearly century of Batman lore and how much Damian shakes it up. Devil’s Advocate.

But as a fan: I fuuuuucking love that kid.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #35360 on: December 17, 2022, 03:47:35 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-did-you-meet-your-partner.665959/#post-98327980

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A muslim dating app, Muzmatch. Pretty smooth process once we got to talking and met, and I knew she was worth it when she would initiate and show as much interest in me so made for less work. She was more into MCU, Twilight, Harry Potter, and I wasn't haha, matched on classic rock (Queen, Led Zeppelin, Muse) and nerdy things but she was also willing to get into what I was into like arthouse/indie films, videogames, comic books. And I got into seeing musical theatre thanks to her, so that curiosity into each others' hobbies was great. We just had similar values and life goals, and were serious. Married for 4 years now with a 19mo daughter, time flies! I remember getting advice from DatingGAF folks who are still around here, all the way through.
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« Reply #35361 on: December 17, 2022, 03:48:25 PM »
 ???

Outside of using "gap moe", what is the problem!"? Good Son is a reference to a MacCulkin film




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« Reply #35362 on: December 17, 2022, 03:55:33 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-did-you-meet-your-partner.665959/#post-98327980

Quote from:  Messofanego
A muslim dating app, Muzmatch. Pretty smooth process once we got to talking and met, and I knew she was worth it when she would initiate and show as much interest in me so made for less work. She was more into MCU, Twilight, Harry Potter, and I wasn't haha, matched on classic rock (Queen, Led Zeppelin, Muse) and nerdy things but she was also willing to get into what I was into like arthouse/indie films, videogames, comic books. And I got into seeing musical theatre thanks to her, so that curiosity into each others' hobbies was great. We just had similar values and life goals, and were serious. Married for 4 years now with a 19mo daughter, time flies! I remember getting advice from DatingGAF folks who are still around here, all the way through.

When I read that thread title, I thought "There's no way Messeo would rear his head in there given how he got his wife." Silly of me to not to think he'd just spin a tale as ERA friendly as possible. Even went the extra mile to mention the MCU and how she was into Harry Potter and he wasn't (Nice way to throw you wife under the bus as a TERF bitch, Messeo).

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« Reply #35363 on: December 17, 2022, 04:08:46 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-did-you-meet-your-partner.665959/#post-98327980

Quote from:  Messofanego
A muslim dating app, Muzmatch. Pretty smooth process once we got to talking and met, and I knew she was worth it when she would initiate and show as much interest in me so made for less work. She was more into MCU, Twilight, Harry Potter, and I wasn't haha, matched on classic rock (Queen, Led Zeppelin, Muse) and nerdy things but she was also willing to get into what I was into like arthouse/indie films, videogames, comic books. And I got into seeing musical theatre thanks to her, so that curiosity into each others' hobbies was great. We just had similar values and life goals, and were serious. Married for 4 years now with a 19mo daughter, time flies! I remember getting advice from DatingGAF folks who are still around here, all the way through.
Wait, wait, WAIT...Messy's purchased wife is into Harry Potter and he's enabling it to the kids!? :bolo

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #35364 on: December 17, 2022, 04:15:09 PM »
Maybe I’m remembering wrong, but I think he already wrote how he meet his wife in the most sugarcoating way possible and was very different that this one?


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« Reply #35366 on: December 17, 2022, 04:39:34 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-did-you-meet-your-partner.665959/#post-98327980

Quote from:  Messofanego
A muslim dating app, Muzmatch. Pretty smooth process once we got to talking and met, and I knew she was worth it when she would initiate and show as much interest in me so made for less work. She was more into MCU, Twilight, Harry Potter, and I wasn't haha, matched on classic rock (Queen, Led Zeppelin, Muse) and nerdy things but she was also willing to get into what I was into like arthouse/indie films, videogames, comic books. And I got into seeing musical theatre thanks to her, so that curiosity into each others' hobbies was great. We just had similar values and life goals, and were serious. Married for 4 years now with a 19mo daughter, time flies! I remember getting advice from DatingGAF folks who are still around here, all the way through.

When I read that thread title, I thought "There's no way Messeo would rear his head in there given how he got his wife." Silly of me to not to think he'd just spin a tale as ERA friendly as possible. Even went the extra mile to mention the MCU and how she was into Harry Potter and he wasn't (Nice way to throw you wife under the bus as a TERF bitch, Messeo).

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A muslim dating app, Muzmatch. Pretty smooth process once we got to talking and met, and I knew she was worth it when she would initiate and show as much interest in me so made for less work. She was more into MCU, Twilight, Harry Potter, and I wasn't haha, matched on classic rock (Queen, Led Zeppelin, Muse) and nerdy things but she was also willing to get into what I was into like arthouse/indie films, videogames, comic books. And I got into seeing musical theatre thanks to her, so that curiosity into each others' hobbies was great. We just had similar values and life goals, and were serious. Married for 4 years now with a 19mo daughter, time flies! I remember getting advice from DatingGAF folks who are still around here, all the way through.

This is not at all how he described how he met his wife in a previous post.  What the hell?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #35367 on: December 17, 2022, 04:42:51 PM »

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #35369 on: December 17, 2022, 04:48:03 PM »
Maybe I’m remembering wrong, but I think he already wrote how he meet his wife in the most sugarcoating way possible and was very different that this one?

I think it can work with his other story. He first saw her on the app and then their parents go to together to negotiate while Messo and the women have a "date" while supervised. After the parents agreed they got married.

A while ago Messo pretty much admitted that just getting a girlfriend was never an option. If he wanted a romantic partner it meant getting married

I'm married and wanted to be, not because of family influence but because I wanted a romantic partner. I wish more people were validated with choosing lifestyles aside from marriage. There is too much pressure and it needs to be done away with. Legal system should accommodate for all lifestyles, not just giving incentives to married couples. Civil partnerships need to be seen as equal to marriages.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #35370 on: December 17, 2022, 04:51:43 PM »
edit:  oh who gives a shit
« Last Edit: December 17, 2022, 04:58:18 PM by Propagandhim »

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #35371 on: December 17, 2022, 05:00:20 PM »
The Muzmatch story doesn't necessarily misalign with the other story:
Muzz (formerly Muzmatch) is a Muslim dating app founded by Shahzad Younas and launched in 2015. Its tagline is "Where Single Muslims Meet" and "Where Muslims meet" and emphasises marriage as opposed to casual dating.[1]

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Muzmatch was first launched as a matrimonial website platform in 2011 by Shahzad Younas.[3] The site employed a pay-as-you-go mechanism for its members. It allowed complete anonymity to all of its members – with all profile pictures being initially blurred, allowing only those "seriously" looking to find a bride or groom to pay a small amount to access a full detailed profile description and picture.[3]
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Muzz was the first Muslim app to allow members to include a chaperone or Wali who would be able to monitor messages sent to and from their account.[15]

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« Reply #35372 on: December 17, 2022, 05:05:04 PM »
Wait? He couldn’t even flirt online unsupervised? Lol

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« Reply #35373 on: December 17, 2022, 05:06:48 PM »
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Muzz was the first Muslim app to allow members to include a chaperone or Wali who would be able to monitor messages sent to and from their account.[15]

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #35374 on: December 17, 2022, 05:06:51 PM »
It's possible I'm misremembering things, but I can't fathom how I remember his story so differently than how he tells it. 


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #35376 on: December 17, 2022, 05:10:25 PM »
Wait? He couldn’t even flirt online unsupervised? Lol
While in the case of Messofanego I wouldn't discount this, it really means the women aren't allowed to. A Wali is a "legal guardian" (usually a father or other male relative) who she can't marry (a relationship without marriage is obviously forbidden) without the permission of.

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« Reply #35377 on: December 17, 2022, 05:12:19 PM »
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Its tagline is "Where Single Muslims Meet" and "Where Muslims meet" and emphasises marriage as opposed to casual dating.

 :lol

So the dating guru and super progressive  Muslim of RE got his wife with a conservative Muslim App designed to find and buy a wife without dating.

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« Reply #35378 on: December 17, 2022, 05:18:03 PM »
I would assume most ResetERA.com members will read that as if he's talking about a Christian Mingle type dating site because anything else might invite some inherent disregard for Islam. :lol

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« Reply #35379 on: December 17, 2022, 05:19:57 PM »
Maybe I’m remembering wrong, but I think he already wrote how he meet his wife in the most sugarcoating way possible and was very different that this one?

I think it can work with his other story. He first saw her on the app and then their parents go to together to negotiate while Messo and the women have a "date" while supervised. After the parents agreed they got married.

A member here once explained the dating and marriage process and it aligns with that.  Parents are involved and matches are under scrutiny by parents so no haram business occurs.



I still don't see what part of that grants Messo the idea he can give dating advice, child rearing advice, or advice to his therapy patients.  Any advice at all. 

Maybe he's a totally changed man from what he was 8 years ago.  That would be great.


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I mean, it’s not just video games. Why do you think they’re called Stormtroopers in Star Wars? People eat that shit up too.

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Yup lol

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Wow.  In that second pic all I see are three space-nazis. 
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #35380 on: December 17, 2022, 05:20:18 PM »
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Its tagline is "Where Single Muslims Meet" and "Where Muslims meet" and emphasises marriage as opposed to casual dating.

 :lol

So the dating guru and super progressive  Muslim of RE got his wife with a conservative Muslim App designed to find and buy a wife without dating.

But that isn't how he originally told it:  He wrote a post about how his family set him up on like 2 dates and personally chaperoned them immediately before marriage.  I distinctly remember that he used the words, "family network".   I did a few quick futile Google searches before I audibly said, "What am I doing with my life?".  Can't find it.  Wouldn't put it past it him that he deleted the posts.   Am I confusing him with someone else?  Just so odd that I'd remember this so differently than how he tells it.  Otherwise, he's just deliberately lying, which is....lol.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #35382 on: December 17, 2022, 06:00:59 PM »
RE has that strange idea that people will adopt or sympathize with Nazi ideologies just because superficial aesthetic choices rather than ideology (genuine racists) or power pursuit (Kanye latest gossip points that he had an hard on for the nazi propaganda more than anything).

Nazis aesthetic is generally a cheap way to show someone is a bad guy and people idealizing fictional villains are kind of independent.

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« Reply #35383 on: December 17, 2022, 06:22:53 PM »
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Holy crap, glad I stayed away from that fandom.
Yea i've genuinely never watched the show because the brony thing felt super offputting to me.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/games-with-playable-nazis-nazi-inspired-aesthetics-and-the-uncomfortably-passive-acceptance-of-it-all-nsfw-image-heavy.665983/post-98338981

The only reason you're adult ass hasn't watched "My little pony: friendship is magic" is because of the fandom?  :doge

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« Reply #35384 on: December 17, 2022, 06:28:36 PM »
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Holy crap, glad I stayed away from that fandom.
Yea i've genuinely never watched the show because the brony thing felt super offputting to me.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/games-with-playable-nazis-nazi-inspired-aesthetics-and-the-uncomfortably-passive-acceptance-of-it-all-nsfw-image-heavy.665983/post-98338981

The only reason you're adult ass hasn't watched "My little pony: friendship is magic" is because of the fandom?  :doge

- realise that the entire fandom is middle aged men just like him
- decide that the show wasn't what he was looking for after all

 :thinking

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« Reply #35385 on: December 17, 2022, 06:34:10 PM »
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Its tagline is "Where Single Muslims Meet" and "Where Muslims meet" and emphasises marriage as opposed to casual dating.

 :lol

So the dating guru and super progressive  Muslim of RE got his wife with a conservative Muslim App designed to find and buy a wife without dating.

But that isn't how he originally told it:  He wrote a post about how his family set him up on like 2 dates and personally chaperoned them immediately before marriage.  I distinctly remember that he used the words, "family network".   I did a few quick futile Google searches before I audibly said, "What am I doing with my life?".  Can't find it.  Wouldn't put it past it him that he deleted the posts.   Am I confusing him with someone else?  Just so odd that I'd remember this so differently than how he tells it.  Otherwise, he's just deliberately lying, which is....lol.

i absolutely remember this

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« Reply #35386 on: December 17, 2022, 06:37:40 PM »

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« Reply #35387 on: December 17, 2022, 07:29:17 PM »
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Its tagline is "Where Single Muslims Meet" and "Where Muslims meet" and emphasises marriage as opposed to casual dating.

 :lol

So the dating guru and super progressive  Muslim of RE got his wife with a conservative Muslim App designed to find and buy a wife without dating.

But that isn't how he originally told it:  He wrote a post about how his family set him up on like 2 dates and personally chaperoned them immediately before marriage.  I distinctly remember that he used the words, "family network".   I did a few quick futile Google searches before I audibly said, "What am I doing with my life?".  Can't find it.  Wouldn't put it past it him that he deleted the posts.   Am I confusing him with someone else?  Just so odd that I'd remember this so differently than how he tells it.  Otherwise, he's just deliberately lying, which is....lol.

i absolutely remember this

I do too for some reason, but I found this from 2018. Seems to line up with the current version:


Muzmatch (Muslim dating app). Started talked to her in November 2017, went to Pakistan in December to January so could only meet her in February. First date lasted 5 hours. She was actually my second date that day after one with a doctor. After dinner, she suggested we spend more time at a museum I was talking about, and it's the only museum that is open til 10pm. I loved that she took the initiative in as many things as me, and quite the feminist. Went to the Tate Modern and just sat on the swings for a couple of hours, talking about all kinds of things. She is logical and calm like me, fitting for a solicitor, and we can be very forthcoming into solving problems. First person I had dated who was as funny and sarcastic as me. She's a homebody but maybe because of me wanted to meet me once a week doing all kinds of fun activities. That kept on happening, then deactivated our dating profiles, and talked to family. I proposed. Engagement was in April, so that was really quick. Wedding at end of August. Can't wait. Going to a Mulan singalong this evening.

More Messo lore from 2018

Just wanted to give an update since I haven't posted in a while. I've been seeing the solicitor girl for a month now. We had been talking since Nov last year but it got serious in just the last month. Yesterday was our first month anniversary. We met each other four times, and families met each other three times. Time flies! That seems crazy fast but remember that in our way we go on dates towards marriage, not just for fun although we have plenty of that! We went to the Tate Modern, Museum of London for the suffragette exhibition, SushiSamba, and the Maison Du Mezze in Leicester Square. I kind of knew this was getting real when after our first dinner, she was the one to want to go to the Tate Modern and that first date went on for five hours. And the next date she booked a table for us at SushiSamba which is a super fancy restaurant on the top of a skyscraper. What she really likes about me is how comfortable she can be talking about anything, no matter how deep or dark, and how pro-LGBT and feminist I am which is sadly a rarity amongst Muslim guys. I love how spontaneous, funny, intelligent, and open-minded she is.

She's Marvel and I'm DC, but she loved Smallville more than me lol. She's not as geeky or as into videogames as me but she likes trying new things, wants to see any kind of movie with me even arthouse ones ("just not porn! haha") and that superficial stuff doesn't matter at the end of the day.

Whenever I have a day off, she asks what I'm up to and wants to tag along even to join me after her work. No girl has ever done that, not even my friends haha!

I proposed to her in the park today and she said yes. We are getting engaged at the end of this month. So yeah, this is really happening!

Found the pilot episode of Visawife:

I went on a date blitz, five dates in like a week. Due to that, I've been seeing one girl a bit more seriously. She was the second date on the same day, after the doctor girl. Wasn't expecting much based on text conversations being sparse, but she's a totally different personality face-to-face. Very lively, talkative, takes the initiative, and basically acts like me in terms of taking charge. She said let's head out and go somewhere, so we went to the Tate Modern and instead of checking out exhibits just chatted on the swings for ages. That was 5 hours. She even suggested to meet up again a few days later, she booked a table at Sushisamba which is probably fanciest place I've ever eaten at. Level 38 on this skyscraper in the evening, gorgeous view of London. She taught me how to use chopsticks finally! We just click, and honestly the first time a girl is funnier than me at times. She's a qualified solicitor, enjoys her work, and very tuned into my mental health work. We can talk about very deep topics and can be honest, don't have to put up a front to make ourselves look good for appearances. We have planned multiple dates. This Saturday she said she's going to her old workplace to fix some little things, I told her I'd probably be at the Museum Of London then she asked if she could hop along and I was like sure! I said I'll go see this Russian film at the cinema and told her she'd probably be bored, she said "try me" so she seems be down for anything. I asked her if there's any movie she wouldn't see with me, she said "porn" lol. I've never met someone who's this willing to spend so much time together in such a short timespan haha. I've booked tickets to the Backyard Cinema Snow Kingdom to see Princess Bride with her (we've never seen it lol). Then the parents are going to meet each other. Hope everything works out.

I've had to let down more than a handful of girls and unmatch, most seem happy I've found someone, but a couple are still hanging on that if it doesn't work out even though we've never met lol.

Anyone ever taken a date up to The Shard or Up At The O2?


The rest of the info might have come from his Twatter account (which he has deleted).
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« Reply #35388 on: December 17, 2022, 07:38:41 PM »
Hai Visawife. Do you actually think Kyuuji and the rest aren’t here? We know. They know. Ree knows.

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« Reply #35389 on: December 17, 2022, 07:43:22 PM »
Messy has this uncanny ability to sound like both a sociopath and a chatbot at the same time. Very disturbing individual.
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« Reply #35390 on: December 17, 2022, 08:33:44 PM »
Does this mean I have to stop saying Mess is in an arranged marriage?!  It just doesn't feel right to do it anymore if I can't find the proof...but is this all part of his sick plan to put me in this Berenstain Bears/Mandela Effect gaslighting cage of death?  I swear on me mum I heard him say it. *nurses hush me while they push me away on the wheelchair*  Is this the mental health treatment this monster doles out?!

 :mindblown

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« Reply #35391 on: December 17, 2022, 08:39:06 PM »
Does this mean I have to stop saying Mess is in an arranged marriage?!  It just doesn't feel right to do it anymore if I can't find the proof...but is this all part of his sick plan to put me in this Berenstain Bears/Mandela Effect gaslighting cage of death?  I swear on me mum I heard him say it. *nurses hush me while they push me away on the wheelchair*  Is this the mental health treatment this monster doles out?!

 :mindblown
I think there was more on his twatter account, but even the autistys over at kiwifarms don't seem to have a smoking gun outside of what I have posted above
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« Reply #35392 on: December 17, 2022, 08:40:22 PM »
:existential

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« Reply #35393 on: December 17, 2022, 08:42:39 PM »
I remember seeing a post were he admits their parents were chaperone, is the reason why I feel comfortable about joking about his VisaWife.

I will not surprised if he deleted given that is easy to find stuff were he acts double faced outside of RE.

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« Reply #35394 on: December 17, 2022, 09:09:01 PM »
Is borknmy wahli to all the messages i send to Benji?

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« Reply #35395 on: December 17, 2022, 10:55:28 PM »
  • Every human artist is also "stealing" (i.e. learning) from others' art; otherwise you'd all still be doing cave paintings. You take what others do and transform it.
  • No, typing a prompt into an AI doesn't make you an artist, any more than paying a human artist to draw your fetish makes you an artist.
  • Yes, it sucks when your industry starts replacing you with automated machines. It's happened for over a hundred years, you'll get over it.

It's really not complicated.

this is a bit reductionist

some people spend hours tweaking the same prompt to get exactly what they're picturing into the image

some will use inpainting to carefully and selectively replace parts of the image until it fixes things that look imperfect

some will use AI art as just one tool in the toolbox -- generate a cloudy sky landscape as the background for your actually hand-drawn/Photoshopped foreground character (essentially AI as part of collage)


it's like saying you're not an artist for taking 5 seconds to scribble with a crayon, vs. you're not an artist if you use crayons to create an amazing drawing over the course of 5 hours

but then you get into semantics about the amount of time taken to create "art"...is photography an art?  isn't it possible to get lucky and snap something in 5 seconds that becomes iconic throughout history?

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Alright, you're right, I accept your petition for more nuance. I still do not think typing a prompt makes you an artist, but it doesn't preclude you from using the results in an artistic way. Photography is an interesting comparison. On its face it seems immediately clear to me that photography takes much more artistic vision and skill than typing prompts. Why? My bias, maybe? Idk. Thinking about it, I can see an awesome photo and immediately know that the photographer is skilled. The same is not true of AI art (unmodified). I have no idea whether the person spent hours tweaking the prompts, because it doesn't take a skillful eye to get the AI to make something cool.

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« Reply #35396 on: December 17, 2022, 11:29:39 PM »
Is borknmy wahli to all the messages i send to Benji?
You really think you'd still be a free man if a third party was reading the messages you send me?

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« Reply #35397 on: December 17, 2022, 11:40:51 PM »
The rest of the info might have come from his Twatter account (which he has deleted).
This sucks, now my reply to him when he said I needed serious mental help in reply to Bobby Roberts screenshotting a Bire post of mine making fun of him in a thread of screenshots of Bire posts that led to complaints from Bobby Roberts fans against Bire posters bosses has no context at all. (Since Bobby Roberts also deleted.)

Why do these people who are constantly trying to cancel hold others accountable always delete all their accounts and try to hide what they've said at the slightest hypothetical negative?
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« Reply #35398 on: December 17, 2022, 11:42:58 PM »
this is a bit reductionist

some people spend hours tweaking the same prompt to get exactly what they're picturing into the image

some will use inpainting to carefully and selectively replace parts of the image until it fixes things that look imperfect

...

but then you get into semantics about the amount of time taken to create "art"...is photography an art?  isn't it possible to get lucky and snap something in 5 seconds that becomes iconic throughout history?

Everyone will have to excuse the wall of text but the response turned out to be longer than expected :doge Whether someone is using AI or creating it themselves the result it still artwork. However a defining characteristic of an artist is what they're bringing to it, how substantive their input in the result is. Otherwise they're essentially directing the AI like a client.

If we consider sampling in music where controllers are used, they don't typically refer to themselves as musicians even if they're using instrumentation since they recognize they're utilizing others' work. Exceptions would be for example where they're creating original drum sequences or substantially altering the samples. They even have to get approval for the samples and pay royalties to the original artists (even if some skirt this).

Masking objects is in itself is a skill, which AI masking for inpainting is a simpler form of. Simpler since it's both not the same isolation purpose as general masking for compositing and since AI front-ends offer cruder tools than one would be accomplishing natively in image editors, outside of Photoshop-integrated Stable Diffusion plugins.

Similarly regular inpainting is a skill, which again the AI form is a vastly simplified and automated version of (in regular inpainting one is more manually extending the image behind masked out objects, while AI fully automates this and integrates arbitrary additions). Yet being good at either or both on their own don't arguably make one an artist, even in professional settings.

Some people are just getting a taste of the difficulties and skill of such things which others do more rigorously and all the time (but don't generally post about) and thinking those aspects mean they should be called the artist. And that's only for those in your selective example who are going to more effort, most (from the many examples and breakdowns I've seen) are only engaging with crude AI masking/inpainting and spend the bulk of the time tailoring the prompts, which themselves by necessity compromise of predominantly keywords/tokens of other artists' names and tags the dataset were trained with (models also have different limits to the number of tokens they accept, the rest get ignored).

If they want to call themselves prompt engineers at least it's closer to an accurate term. They can feel the reward to spend what they feel is a long time finding the right set of tokens and seeds to get an essentially magic black box to pull an image out of noise, maybe mask the hands to roll the dice on non-garbled anatomy, mask the background for more inpainting prompts, but most are ultimately just guiding its direction rather than creating the result.

If they get to the point where they're isolating individual elements and compositing separately in their own creative manner then they're at least engaging in a more artistic process. If they're transforming an illustration of their own making using img2img (more than just guided by an MS Paint-esque doodle), to where the output is directly influenced by it then they're likely already an artist utilizing AI for iteration rather than relying on it.

Concept artists and collage artists are among those who already utilize even direct sources but substantially transform them as part of a larger whole that they're applying their artistic skills to (illustration, conceptualization, compositing/masking/layering, etc). To me that's the crucial aspect: whoever is behind the substantial element of the result. If it's the AI, then the AI is the artist.

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« Reply #35399 on: December 17, 2022, 11:55:15 PM »
Regarding the legal state, the AI won't be an artist because it's artists who get the initial IP rights claims. Any AI artwork will be a derivative of the AI itself. It seems those artworks should immediately become public domain since you can't assign them to a person*, tool patents don't grant you a claim on the art produced by them, but rather than be made illegal as ResetERA.com suspects I think they'd extend copyright terms to the AI creators especially if they're Disney.

*Despite the fact that there's been at least one Supreme Court Justice who believed trees should be able to sue people.