I keep trying to convince her to start doing Hentai and Furry commissions to make some dough, but she refuses.
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Not a Purah cosplay. No like from me.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/may-2023-asian-american-native-hawaiian-and-pacific-islander-heritage-month-ot.715186/page-2#post-105699346Quote from: ZeroXQuote from: MDCrabCakeFan86I'm wondering why is this the case?As an Asian American, I was hoping that this thread would be active. Most of Asian Era were not made to feel welcome here by moderation, it went beyond the thread that was posted here and a bunch of other threads were shut down and posters bannedThere’s only so much racism going ignored before people are like fuck it I’m out
Quote from: MDCrabCakeFan86I'm wondering why is this the case?As an Asian American, I was hoping that this thread would be active. Most of Asian Era were not made to feel welcome here by moderation, it went beyond the thread that was posted here and a bunch of other threads were shut down and posters bannedThere’s only so much racism going ignored before people are like fuck it I’m out
I'm wondering why is this the case?As an Asian American, I was hoping that this thread would be active.
Kinda curious what the racial make up of era is. Has there ever been a formal poll?
Your one foray into this thread was weird, tbh.When Russia invaded you slept.When Russia massacred villages you slept.When they threatened the use of nukes you slept.When a poster in here praised a politician for sending aid to Ukraine you derailed the thread with your only three posts made in this thread to date (a thread that's over a year old).
it makes me feel very safe as a trans person in the US knowing that if trump and desantis flop over to sending ICBMs or whatever to ukraine they'll inherit a bizarre defense force on era, super duper cooli promise you it is not just okay but absolutely crucial to unconditionally condemn facism and fascists even when they do a thing you like. do you think that fascists never do things people like?we are so fucking toast, this sucks so much
https://www.resetera.com/threads/russia-has-begun-a-full-scale-invasion-in-ukraine-read-staff-posts.556366/page-2285#post-105702607Quote from: hachikomait makes me feel very safe as a trans person in the US knowing that if trump and desantis flop over to sending ICBMs or whatever to ukraine they'll inherit a bizarre defense force on era, super duper cooli promise you it is not just okay but absolutely crucial to unconditionally condemn facism and fascists even when they do a thing you like. do you think that fascists never do things people like?we are so fucking toast, this sucks so much
If he's not a member, he can cross. Doesn't mean he won't dodge the scab callouts though, fuckin scab
Messylego to the rescue.https://www.resetera.com/threads/russia-has-begun-a-full-scale-invasion-in-ukraine-read-staff-posts.556366/page-2285#post-105705928As well as Eric "AkshuallyIHaveFriendsInUkraineImAbsolutelyNotHavingaHardonForRussia" the gamerman.https://www.resetera.com/threads/russia-has-begun-a-full-scale-invasion-in-ukraine-read-staff-posts.556366/page-2286#post-105706597
You don't get points for posting on ERA.
QuoteJesus fuck, can everyone just drop it regarding Meloni? This isn't the thread to discuss it.I mean, if people say "Hey, the fascist you're taking the time to praise actually deeply disturbs me and is a threat to my existence, so maybe stop that talk" it needs to be said regardless of the thread.
Jesus fuck, can everyone just drop it regarding Meloni? This isn't the thread to discuss it.
Quote from: nobody of note on May 15, 2023, 02:02:13 PMQuote from: Cauliflower Of Love on May 15, 2023, 01:36:21 PMstrike thread is on time.people arguing with each other about the same thing.where's excel?https://www.resetera.com/threads/bbc-claims-to-have-exposed-private-uk-clinics-as-over-diagnosing-adhd-in-adults-but-the-approach-used-by-the-undercover-journalist-is-suspect.719512/QuoteFirst they came for trans people, and I said nothing because I am not trans. Then they came for people with ADHD...
Quote from: Cauliflower Of Love on May 15, 2023, 01:36:21 PMstrike thread is on time.people arguing with each other about the same thing.where's excel?https://www.resetera.com/threads/bbc-claims-to-have-exposed-private-uk-clinics-as-over-diagnosing-adhd-in-adults-but-the-approach-used-by-the-undercover-journalist-is-suspect.719512/
strike thread is on time.people arguing with each other about the same thing.where's excel?
First they came for trans people, and I said nothing because I am not trans. Then they came for people with ADHD...
I'm just tired of so many threads going off the rails due to just.. frankly dumb semantic bickering and petulance. Seems to happen a lot here. This thread was set up for it from the outset, so yeah, obvious that it'd go this way, but... tiring regardless.
OK, how about we stop the derail? Not everyone knows the intricacies of every other nation's politics and who does what. It's part of why the situation early on in the war was such a dumpsterfire.
QuoteOK, how about we stop the derail? Not everyone knows the intricacies of every other nation's politics and who does what. It's part of why the situation early on in the war was such a dumpsterfire.Guess it wasn't the bombs then
Quote from: Hap Shaughnessy on May 15, 2023, 01:50:11 PMQuote from: Hap Shaughnessy on May 14, 2023, 08:48:01 PMhttps://www.resetera.com/threads/its-insane-to-me-that-in-2023-the-south-park-episodes-featuring-muhammad-are-still-banned.719278/page-3#post-105673804Quote from: ItWasMeantToBe19South Park adds nothing of value so I don't care if they ever show these episodes.It is a little demonstrative of the self-censorship a lot of people are engaged in to try to avoid generating more hatred of Muslims.Overall, this is a good thing, though it is mildly annoying at times.It's pretty obvious that Muhammad raped Safiyya bint Huyayy and many other women and the total lack of discussion of this in discussions of Islam can feel pretty.... come on, man. God's perfect human was a serial rapist?Islam and Christianity and Mormonism are really embarrassing because they're so obviously false and people just refuse to engage at all either out of politeness or embarrassment.Quote User banned (permanent): Islamophobia over multiple posts. Multiple prior bans for racism, trolling, and hostility. This guy had to be a long time troll right? Dude made the dumbest threads and here he is basically saying "I don't mind that they're censoring South Park if it helps reduce hatred of Muslims. Anyway, why is no one talking about how Muhammad was a rapist?"
Quote from: Hap Shaughnessy on May 14, 2023, 08:48:01 PMhttps://www.resetera.com/threads/its-insane-to-me-that-in-2023-the-south-park-episodes-featuring-muhammad-are-still-banned.719278/page-3#post-105673804Quote from: ItWasMeantToBe19South Park adds nothing of value so I don't care if they ever show these episodes.It is a little demonstrative of the self-censorship a lot of people are engaged in to try to avoid generating more hatred of Muslims.Overall, this is a good thing, though it is mildly annoying at times.It's pretty obvious that Muhammad raped Safiyya bint Huyayy and many other women and the total lack of discussion of this in discussions of Islam can feel pretty.... come on, man. God's perfect human was a serial rapist?Islam and Christianity and Mormonism are really embarrassing because they're so obviously false and people just refuse to engage at all either out of politeness or embarrassment.Quote User banned (permanent): Islamophobia over multiple posts. Multiple prior bans for racism, trolling, and hostility.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/its-insane-to-me-that-in-2023-the-south-park-episodes-featuring-muhammad-are-still-banned.719278/page-3#post-105673804Quote from: ItWasMeantToBe19South Park adds nothing of value so I don't care if they ever show these episodes.It is a little demonstrative of the self-censorship a lot of people are engaged in to try to avoid generating more hatred of Muslims.Overall, this is a good thing, though it is mildly annoying at times.It's pretty obvious that Muhammad raped Safiyya bint Huyayy and many other women and the total lack of discussion of this in discussions of Islam can feel pretty.... come on, man. God's perfect human was a serial rapist?Islam and Christianity and Mormonism are really embarrassing because they're so obviously false and people just refuse to engage at all either out of politeness or embarrassment.
South Park adds nothing of value so I don't care if they ever show these episodes.It is a little demonstrative of the self-censorship a lot of people are engaged in to try to avoid generating more hatred of Muslims.Overall, this is a good thing, though it is mildly annoying at times.It's pretty obvious that Muhammad raped Safiyya bint Huyayy and many other women and the total lack of discussion of this in discussions of Islam can feel pretty.... come on, man. God's perfect human was a serial rapist?Islam and Christianity and Mormonism are really embarrassing because they're so obviously false and people just refuse to engage at all either out of politeness or embarrassment.
User banned (permanent): Islamophobia over multiple posts. Multiple prior bans for racism, trolling, and hostility.
Are there two more self-diagnosed and over-diagnosed conditions in the world than gender dysphoria and ADHD?
So this is the whole point of the article:QuoteMore and more people are turning to private clinics for an assessment to determine whether they have ADHD. Panorama investigates whether some are giving unreliable diagnoses.It's an investigation as to whether those private clinics can be trusted or if they're just misdiagnosing people, collecting the checks, and taking advantage of people. The NHS diagnosis is a baseline, it's the control. They're interviewing a doctor and doing the "test" to see if the results they're getting from these other clinics can be trusted or not.
More and more people are turning to private clinics for an assessment to determine whether they have ADHD. Panorama investigates whether some are giving unreliable diagnoses.
Yes which would be invaluable if it was done right, with a specfic focus on NHS failing those in need.Except it wasn't remotely done right. You can't use the NHS non diagnosis as a counter to the private diagnoses because the NHS one was given under completely different parameter.He told the NHS guy he believes private clinics are fraudulent and the NHS guy agreed... his entire assessment can only be viewed through that lens. It's in both of their interests to not have him diagnosed. He then enters every undercover appointment with that in mind which means any element that he gives to them that might suggest he thinks he has it (a key diagnostic tool) is a lie.The only evidence we have that he was misdiagnosed is meeting with an NHS doctor who also believes in over diagnosis and who evaluated him knowing he's a journalist seeking to reveal that.There very well could be problems... but this methodology is unethical as all hell, and the emphasis is not in NHS failing those in need but instead putting more stigmatization on ADHD diagnosis which already has issues with too many people thinking it doesn't exist.
The methodology is fine. You're just assuming that these places are totally legit when, reading the article, they sound like the british equivalent of the "emotional support animal" racket we had over here. The one where people would pay $120 for a 20 minute talk with a doctor over the phone and a letter saying they can take their pet on a plane because they have mental health issues. A situation, I would point out, that people who actually have these issues absolutely hate because it makes it harder for them to get people to take their issues seriously.If these places really are just diagnosis mills, then that's really dangerous and actively bad for people who actually have ADHD since it lessens their struggles. Which, by the way, is something they're already having to deal with given everyone online has been labeling normal behavior as "oh that's just my ADHD acting up." It cheapens their struggles because it normalizes it as something that's not actually an issue, thus making it harder for them to get people to take their struggles seriously and get the help they need.
The methodology is not fine.He did not seek an actually representative assessment from NHS, he sat with someone ideologically aligned with himself and was given an assessment with full knowledge he was a journalist seeking to expose clinics. From many personal accounts I've read of folks who went through NHS for assessment he was given an assessment that is not truly representative of what most get through NHS either.I'm not assuming anything btw. I said I can't reach a conclusion because a key aspect hinges on a non ADHD diagnosis that can't be trusted on several ethical ground.He posts a chart. Only one private clinic is really suspect on surface and it's the one he has the most dirt on. That one should be investigated.(Image removed from quote.)The methodology is bad because despite his claims he went in honestly, he went in armed with knowledge of his NHS non diagnosis so everything about what he told them is tainted.These are sensitive issues, NHS is failing people and proper ethical research should of course be done but this was not ethical.His NHS diagnosis is the equivalent of a food critic announcing ahead of time he's coming and the restaurant sending their best chef on his day off and who spends far more time on the meal then he would normally and serving him exactly the dish he wanted... and then judging that compared to restaurants where the critic came in secret ordering dishes he didn't like and judging them accordingly. Oh and the first restaurant has a 7 year waiting list.With such an obscene waiting list, and no governed wanting to fix it (no not even Labour) these things need to be handled far more ethically then this investigation and its subsequent presentation.The whole thing hinges crucially on his NHS assessment which was gotten under completely different parameters with almost assuredly atypical conditions.
I think it’s not a great look that 3 clinics diagnosed a person without ADHD as having ADHD, though, right? Assuming he answered their questions honestly, it doesn’t matter (in my mind) that he didn’t disclose his reasons for the diagnosis. I agree with you though that the control here seems suspect - if I’m understanding this correctly he didn’t actually get diagnosed by NHS as not having ADHD. So what could ruin his whole argument is that he indeed does have ADHD.
He almost certainly didn't tell the clinics he was previously told he didn't have ADHD or even tell them he doesn't think he has it.In adults self assessment of symptom and what not is a key diagnostic tool.I think that Harley absolutely should be prodded further and that's the one he dedicates significant focus on.But ultimately I don't believe these clinics were given an accurate enough picture to properly assess.These clinics are not cheap, if people were after drugs they could get street drugs cheaper, by en large they are seeing people who want an honest assessment they aren't seeing people who know they don't have it but want them to read their minds.The whole thing is completely tainted by his approach, he should have either told every private clinic he didn't believe he had ADHD or he should have had a similar blind assessment from NHS.This methodology would never make it in a scientific research journal
Looks like the inmates have been flinging shit everywhere againhttps://www.resetera.com/threads/the-microsoft-activision-blizzard-acquisition-ot-antitrust-simulator-up-eu-approves.633344/page-978
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ADHD: Private clinics exposed by BBC undercover investigation
Rather than quote it, I do recommend just reading it. I'm going to address why I said his approach is suspect.Because he was seeking to "expose" these clinics he of course told none of them what he was doing and why he was actually there. However the only clinic that didn't diagnosis him with ADHD was NHS (which he leap frogged over many many many people who are waiting years for an appointment to do so) and with the NHS he openly was connected with a doctor who shared his belief that ADHD is being over diagnosed... and he up front told said doctor what he was an undercover reporter and what his goals were...So what we have is this:He lied to every clinic that gave him an ADHD diagnosisHe told the truth about everything to the NHS doctor who shared his ideology. In other words would he have gotten a ADHD diagnosis from NHS had he lied there too... can't know... it completely annihilates the comparative analysis: Like did the doctor say he didn't have ADHD because the patient told him he didn't think he had it (and thus would review everything said in that light) Was the doctor inclined to refuse the diagnosis on the grounds that that would get his POV of over diagnosis into the BBC coverage and help "expose" these clinics Would he have gotten the same level of thoroughness from the NHS that was so favorably contrasted from the private clinics if he had been seen undercover According to his timeline two of his 3 private clinics were after the NHS one... so he lied, didn't lie, then lied and lied... That completely would cloud his approaches as he clearly going into the last two believes he doesn't have ADHD but obviously wants them to diagnosis him. And finally how can we trust, given his clear attempts to skew the results by unbalanced disclosure, if he was telling the truth about his symptoms to those clinics or frankly to the NHS Doctor in the opposite direction.
Quote from: Hap Shaughnessy on May 15, 2023, 02:20:24 PMhttps://www.resetera.com/threads/may-2023-asian-american-native-hawaiian-and-pacific-islander-heritage-month-ot.715186/page-2#post-105699346Quote from: ZeroXQuote from: MDCrabCakeFan86I'm wondering why is this the case?As an Asian American, I was hoping that this thread would be active. Most of Asian Era were not made to feel welcome here by moderation, it went beyond the thread that was posted here and a bunch of other threads were shut down and posters bannedThere’s only so much racism going ignored before people are like fuck it I’m outQuoteKinda curious what the racial make up of era is. Has there ever been a formal poll?YTs
B-dubs vs excel in the ADHD thread:Quote from: B-DubsSo this is the whole point of the article:QuoteMore and more people are turning to private clinics for an assessment to determine whether they have ADHD. Panorama investigates whether some are giving unreliable diagnoses.It's an investigation as to whether those private clinics can be trusted or if they're just misdiagnosing people, collecting the checks, and taking advantage of people. The NHS diagnosis is a baseline, it's the control. They're interviewing a doctor and doing the "test" to see if the results they're getting from these other clinics can be trusted or not.Quote from: excelsiorlefYes which would be invaluable if it was done right, with a specfic focus on NHS failing those in need.Except it wasn't remotely done right. You can't use the NHS non diagnosis as a counter to the private diagnoses because the NHS one was given under completely different parameter.He told the NHS guy he believes private clinics are fraudulent and the NHS guy agreed... his entire assessment can only be viewed through that lens. It's in both of their interests to not have him diagnosed. He then enters every undercover appointment with that in mind which means any element that he gives to them that might suggest he thinks he has it (a key diagnostic tool) is a lie.The only evidence we have that he was misdiagnosed is meeting with an NHS doctor who also believes in over diagnosis and who evaluated him knowing he's a journalist seeking to reveal that.There very well could be problems... but this methodology is unethical as all hell, and the emphasis is not in NHS failing those in need but instead putting more stigmatization on ADHD diagnosis which already has issues with too many people thinking it doesn't exist.Quote from: B-DubsThe methodology is fine. You're just assuming that these places are totally legit when, reading the article, they sound like the british equivalent of the "emotional support animal" racket we had over here. The one where people would pay $120 for a 20 minute talk with a doctor over the phone and a letter saying they can take their pet on a plane because they have mental health issues. A situation, I would point out, that people who actually have these issues absolutely hate because it makes it harder for them to get people to take their issues seriously.If these places really are just diagnosis mills, then that's really dangerous and actively bad for people who actually have ADHD since it lessens their struggles. Which, by the way, is something they're already having to deal with given everyone online has been labeling normal behavior as "oh that's just my ADHD acting up." It cheapens their struggles because it normalizes it as something that's not actually an issue, thus making it harder for them to get people to take their struggles seriously and get the help they need.Quote from: excelsiorlefThe methodology is not fine.He did not seek an actually representative assessment from NHS, he sat with someone ideologically aligned with himself and was given an assessment with full knowledge he was a journalist seeking to expose clinics. From many personal accounts I've read of folks who went through NHS for assessment he was given an assessment that is not truly representative of what most get through NHS either.I'm not assuming anything btw. I said I can't reach a conclusion because a key aspect hinges on a non ADHD diagnosis that can't be trusted on several ethical ground.He posts a chart. Only one private clinic is really suspect on surface and it's the one he has the most dirt on. That one should be investigated.(Image removed from quote.)The methodology is bad because despite his claims he went in honestly, he went in armed with knowledge of his NHS non diagnosis so everything about what he told them is tainted.These are sensitive issues, NHS is failing people and proper ethical research should of course be done but this was not ethical.His NHS diagnosis is the equivalent of a food critic announcing ahead of time he's coming and the restaurant sending their best chef on his day off and who spends far more time on the meal then he would normally and serving him exactly the dish he wanted... and then judging that compared to restaurants where the critic came in secret ordering dishes he didn't like and judging them accordingly. Oh and the first restaurant has a 7 year waiting list.With such an obscene waiting list, and no governed wanting to fix it (no not even Labour) these things need to be handled far more ethically then this investigation and its subsequent presentation.The whole thing hinges crucially on his NHS assessment which was gotten under completely different parameters with almost assuredly atypical conditions.Quote from: JarsonotI think it’s not a great look that 3 clinics diagnosed a person without ADHD as having ADHD, though, right? Assuming he answered their questions honestly, it doesn’t matter (in my mind) that he didn’t disclose his reasons for the diagnosis. I agree with you though that the control here seems suspect - if I’m understanding this correctly he didn’t actually get diagnosed by NHS as not having ADHD. So what could ruin his whole argument is that he indeed does have ADHD.Quote from: excelsiorlefHe almost certainly didn't tell the clinics he was previously told he didn't have ADHD or even tell them he doesn't think he has it.In adults self assessment of symptom and what not is a key diagnostic tool.I think that Harley absolutely should be prodded further and that's the one he dedicates significant focus on.But ultimately I don't believe these clinics were given an accurate enough picture to properly assess.These clinics are not cheap, if people were after drugs they could get street drugs cheaper, by en large they are seeing people who want an honest assessment they aren't seeing people who know they don't have it but want them to read their minds.The whole thing is completely tainted by his approach, he should have either told every private clinic he didn't believe he had ADHD or he should have had a similar blind assessment from NHS.This methodology would never make it in a scientific research journalSuddenly anecdotal evidence only matters if the methodology'd make it in a scientific research journal.
Quote from: https://www.resetera.com/threads/political-writer-with-ties-to-respectable-universities-and-bylines-at-nbc-nyt-wapo-calls-for-essentially-a-police-state-against-black-americans.719461/post-105694225Are we... not already under a police state? What more does this asshole want?
Are we... not already under a police state? What more does this asshole want?
Quote from: HaughtyFrank on May 15, 2023, 02:56:16 PMThis guy had to be a long time troll right? Dude made the dumbest threads and here he is basically saying "I don't mind that they're censoring South Park if it helps reduce hatred of Muslims. Anyway, why is no one talking about how Muhammad was a rapist?"In this case, I think he is just that dumb. He may be a troll, but I think his opinions are mostly sincere, so he always sounds like a dumbass regardless of anything. Got some mad PMs from him before OldGaf collapse.
This guy had to be a long time troll right? Dude made the dumbest threads and here he is basically saying "I don't mind that they're censoring South Park if it helps reduce hatred of Muslims. Anyway, why is no one talking about how Muhammad was a rapist?"
problem is...people are using making fun of islam as a means to target and make fun of muslim. It's just like people using anti-china rhetorics to target all other asians.As for your point, what does unbanning the episode serve exactly? since you want to critique the extremist how does promoting making fun of islam and inderectly muslim in the west, since I'm sure the show is only shown in the west help?
My feelings in these sort of matters tend to be that I'd be more sympathetic to the idea "we should be free to criticize anybody" after you end the systematic oppression of the population being targeted. Up until that point, to a certain amount, it simply serves as justification for continued oppression.https://www.npr.org/2019/07/25/745159431/muslims-are-over-represented-in-state-prisons-report-saysAn argument often made is that extremist Islamists engage in violence, but that same systematic oppression often pushes the oppressed into extremism. Targeting Muslims is not actually resolving the issue, but sustaining the issue does provide the justification for further oppression.https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31129398Ultimately, I think a major part of it is that a lot of Muslims are not perceived as white, and a lot of people in predominantly white countries are not particularly concerned with the well-being or deaths of people who they don't consider as white, but they are heavily invested in feeling superior over to others. So that's going to garner more sympathy.
QuoteYeah. It’s pretty fucaking weird seeing folks here comparing racism to…making fun of a religion.There's a reason why Sikhs were being attacked after 9/11. There's a reason why the airport security person looking at the date of birth on my passport was giving me a random check. These aren't as separate in the greater public consciousness as you're presenting it.
Yeah. It’s pretty fucaking weird seeing folks here comparing racism to…making fun of a religion.
QuoteI feel like "it is difficult to criticize the historical figures or beliefs of a philosophy because the philosophy ensured that it would be continued as an ethnic group" is just extremely bad for society though.Let's all just agree to this even as we protect minority groups that were formed by this philosophy trying to maintain itself.In case you didn't catch the point of the post that you were replying to, Sikhs aren't Muslims. But with increased Islamophobia we see increased violence against Sikhs because of the connection between Islamophobia and white supremacy. The racism spills out to non-Muslim brown people as well.
I feel like "it is difficult to criticize the historical figures or beliefs of a philosophy because the philosophy ensured that it would be continued as an ethnic group" is just extremely bad for society though.Let's all just agree to this even as we protect minority groups that were formed by this philosophy trying to maintain itself.
QuoteSikhs were attacked for their looks and the color of their skin, not because of any tenants of Sikhism.There's a very real difference between mocking an ancient imaginary belief system and discriminating those who believe in them.A religion is a non tangible thing. Not a person or a people.You've missed the point.Islam is effectively racialized in the eyes of bigots, where they don't distinguish based on tenants, but on skin colour instead.
Sikhs were attacked for their looks and the color of their skin, not because of any tenants of Sikhism.There's a very real difference between mocking an ancient imaginary belief system and discriminating those who believe in them.A religion is a non tangible thing. Not a person or a people.
QuoteSikhs were attacked for their looks and the color of their skin, not because of any tenants of Sikhism.There's a very real difference between mocking an ancient imaginary belief system and discriminating those who believe in them.A religion is a non tangible thing. Not a person or a people.I'm saying that there are specifically Sikhs murdered as a result of racism overflowing from the increase in Islamophobic sentiments following 9/11. They were specifically murdered because they were profiled as Muslims despite not being them. People are being murdered because Islamophobia and racism are not entirely separate beasts.
You cannot divorce Islamophobia from race.That ship has long since sailed, specifically when dealing with bigots.With that in mind, I'm completely fine with these episodes remaining banned because those same bigots that are likely to shoot up a mosque, or attack anyone that physically matches the "look", will use that material to further dehumanize Muslims.
"Either everything is okay or nothing is okay". We're seeing that play out right now and I'm thinking some thing's aren't okay. South Park are the pioneers of edge lording it to the max and goddamn are we worse off for it. I don't care that we've got professional edge lords making their shitty cartoons, but they sure influenced a lot of homebrew edge lords that really don't understand the actual point of it or what makes things funny in the first place. I say that as a fan of Rick and Morty, cause yeah, fuck that show too.
Quote from: Whalesim sorry I just find it funny how OP went from '' if we make fun of one thing we should be able to make fun of everything'' and then 5 posts in the very same OP says he feels it would be good to ban the transphobic episodes.maybe you should apply the very same logic you're thinking about with these transphobic episodes to why muslims dont want Muhammad's PBUH face shownway to show you know absolutely nothing about Islam, maybe don't come in a thread to literally spew fake garbage? Are you happy to misinform people?There are honest ass laws promoting genocide against trans people going on right now. You REALLY want to imply mocking some silly ancient rule that only applies to it's practitioners that literally hurts NO ONE is the same?
im sorry I just find it funny how OP went from '' if we make fun of one thing we should be able to make fun of everything'' and then 5 posts in the very same OP says he feels it would be good to ban the transphobic episodes.maybe you should apply the very same logic you're thinking about with these transphobic episodes to why muslims dont want Muhammad's PBUH face shownway to show you know absolutely nothing about Islam, maybe don't come in a thread to literally spew fake garbage? Are you happy to misinform people?
islamophobia isnt real?didnt an american ex-president literally start a war for fake reasons, that killed over a million ( according to a quick google research) arabs and muslims, most of them being civillians? why do people with ethnic sounding names get less job opportunities and less education? why does me and my whole family always randomly get searched at airports? you really want to act like people arent racist to basically just a skin color at this point? how is NO ONE being hurt when you reinforce islamophobia?and the whole show reeks of garbage too. One of the main insult cartman uses all the time is literally call Kyle a jew. jew jew jew. As if it was an insult. Oh and also always equating his greed to being jewish. The show is just straight garbage. Funny moments sure but you'd gain way more as a society by just deleting all of it at this point.
US literally went to war in the middle east due to Islamophobia. Remember the War on Terror?and the justification of it's ok to make fun of Islam cause I make fun of other religions is just insane. That's like saying I can wear black face, cause I also wear yellow face and brown face too.
QuoteSome of us are trying to understand why y’all are so pressed to offend someone.I mean, we all know why. Minorities gatekeeping their culture is an affront to white folks, so we have to do this song and dance every single time about how there should be no limits and basic respect is somehow just impossible to maintain, unless it crosses the line of white people's sensibilities. Can't wait for the next n-word thread or Indigenous culture thread where we rehash the same stupid shit.
Some of us are trying to understand why y’all are so pressed to offend someone.
You can be an edgy atheist while also recognizing the capitalist global hegemony of white supremacist evangelical Christianity.So, if you are attacking minoritized populations, their belief structures and identities, especially those that have been oppressed historically, and contemporaneously, then you are being a bit of an ass.As with all religions and belief structures, so long as they push for progressive values and care for people then they are not the problem.Some libertarian jackass that subscribes to free market capitalism and the white supremacy it upholds is far more damaging to humanity than a devoted Muslim.
Over 4 million Muslims killed by the West in the last 30 years (and those are just the ones we know about from publicised wars), with Western Muslims still living in fear that anything they say will get them thrown into black site prisons, but the real victims are ERA posters who... Oh right, are still spouting Islamophobic bullshit on a daily basis.
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and the whole show reeks of garbage too. One of the main insult cartman uses all the time is literally call Kyle a jew. jew jew jew. As if it was an insult. Oh and also always equating his greed to being jewish. The show is just straight garbage.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-girlfriend-has-an-abusive-mother-and-i-do-not-know-how-to-deal-with-it.719650/Moving out of mommies house might help
https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-girlfriend-has-an-abusive-mother-and-i-do-not-know-how-to-deal-with-it.719650/
She started having an "Allies and Enemies" mentality and every single challenge my GF's family or friends gave to her meant she stormed and stopped talking to them saying they betrayed her. She relentlessly attacks her husband verbally and constantly keeps surveillance on him, ... she gets screamed at constantly, she storms into her room to scream at her late at night while she's sleeping, she has spyed on her, she constantly sends her aggressive texts messages every time she steps out the house because she says my GF is being inconsiderate to leave her feeling oh so miserable. She seems to want to control her and just have her be her personal thing as she things she's owed for giving her life.
Quoteand the whole show reeks of garbage too. One of the main insult cartman uses all the time is literally call Kyle a jew. jew jew jew. As if it was an insult. Oh and also always equating his greed to being jewish. The show is just straight garbage.thatisthejoke.jpeg Also, Cartman is the greedy one, Kyle is usually empathetic to a fault.
Quote from: Jansen on May 15, 2023, 09:37:21 PMhttps://www.resetera.com/threads/my-girlfriend-has-an-abusive-mother-and-i-do-not-know-how-to-deal-with-it.719650/Moving out of mommies house might helpAlso 27 and no job....
I don't own a house and if we moved to her recently acquired house it would be hell with her mother who still thinks it's hers.Plus my job is still not enough for me to move out, let alone supporting two.My family is hardcore conservative so living together without marriage would be just another hell for us but from my side this timeThat's why we're trying to get her a job now that she's graduated and move in to an apartment and start from there. Problem is she seems scared to take the step
https://www.forbes.com/sites/traversmark/2023/05/14/3-dead-giveaways-youre-dealing-with-a-wokefisher-according-to-a-psychologist/amp/ 1. They seem to agree with you on every aspect of every issue you are passionate about 2. They seem to only have a superficial understanding of the issues they claim to care about 3. They are obsessed with their social media presence and are inconsistent with their opinionsThey have these three headlines and then go into detail with them. Is this a thing people have actually heard of or seen here?
Is this a trick question because he basically described this forum
Being aware of the signs of a wokefisher can help you avoid potential heartbreak and disappointment. Remember that genuine social awareness and progressivism is about more than just buzzwords and surface-level activism. By keeping these dead giveaways in mind, you can better navigate the world of social justice and dating, and find a partner who shares your values and commitment to social justice.
I should note, her mother, like most abusers, is absolutely charming to me and anyone outside the house.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/forbes-expains-what-a-wokefisher-is.719653/#post-105717205Quote from: ClickyCal' 2. They seem to only have a superficial understanding of the issues they claim to care about
2. They seem to only have a superficial understanding of the issues they claim to care about
This is probably due to the fact that single women and single men--especially white single women and men--are farther apart politically than ever.https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/08/18/men-and-women-in-the-u-s-continue-to-differ-in-voter-turnout-rate-party-identification/Black men and women are the most progressive according the data and among the most politically aligned--don't buy the bullshit about black men becoming conservative. It's a false narrative.There's a reason why those conservative dating sites failed.
Is it? It sounds more like this is describing a conservative pretending to be liberal to sleep with someoneWhich I guess if someone was feeling uncharitable, could describe a lot of "allies"
It is. Pretty much the go-to response for conservatives feeling any cognitive dissonance over progressive values is to conclude that anyone holding those values are not doing so sincerely. It's all just for show or clout or internet brownie points or anything other than being for real. This is just the latest coat of paint on this old concept.
I'm ashamed to admit I have my own share of personal issues that kept me from making that choice years ago.I have been immature and fearful of commitment as I kept demanding myself to finish school, get a major (which the pandemic threw a wrench on and I'm graduating until this year) and get a good position. I kept wanting to be "ready" and putting it off and like others have said not wanting to piss off anyone in my family.My anxiety/panic issues have also been a key factor into this. Which I have already started working on through therapy
Quoteget a major (which the pandemic threw a wrench on and I'm graduating until this year)https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-girlfriend-has-an-abusive-mother-and-i-do-not-know-how-to-deal-with-it.719650/#post-105718885
get a major (which the pandemic threw a wrench on and I'm graduating until this year)
Quote from: Raist on May 15, 2023, 04:37:58 PMMessylego to the rescue.https://www.resetera.com/threads/russia-has-begun-a-full-scale-invasion-in-ukraine-read-staff-posts.556366/page-2285#post-105705928As well as Eric "AkshuallyIHaveFriendsInUkraineImAbsolutelyNotHavingaHardonForRussia" the gamerman.https://www.resetera.com/threads/russia-has-begun-a-full-scale-invasion-in-ukraine-read-staff-posts.556366/page-2286#post-105706597QuoteYou don't get points for posting on ERA.
Quote from: purplemonkey111, https://www.resetera.com/threads/its-insane-to-me-that-in-2023-the-south-park-episodes-featuring-muhammad-are-still-banned.719278/post-105675835problem is...people are using making fun of islam as a means to target and make fun of muslim. It's just like people using anti-china rhetorics to target all other asians.As for your point, what does unbanning the episode serve exactly? since you want to critique the extremist how does promoting making fun of islam and inderectly muslim in the west, since I'm sure the show is only shown in the west help?Quote from: L ThammyMy feelings in these sort of matters tend to be that I'd be more sympathetic to the idea "we should be free to criticize anybody" after you end the systematic oppression of the population being targeted. Up until that point, to a certain amount, it simply serves as justification for continued oppression.https://www.npr.org/2019/07/25/745159431/muslims-are-over-represented-in-state-prisons-report-saysAn argument often made is that extremist Islamists engage in violence, but that same systematic oppression often pushes the oppressed into extremism. Targeting Muslims is not actually resolving the issue, but sustaining the issue does provide the justification for further oppression.https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31129398Ultimately, I think a major part of it is that a lot of Muslims are not perceived as white, and a lot of people in predominantly white countries are not particularly concerned with the well-being or deaths of people who they don't consider as white, but they are heavily invested in feeling superior over to others. So that's going to garner more sympathy.Quote from: L ThammyQuoteYeah. It’s pretty fucaking weird seeing folks here comparing racism to…making fun of a religion.There's a reason why Sikhs were being attacked after 9/11. There's a reason why the airport security person looking at the date of birth on my passport was giving me a random check. These aren't as separate in the greater public consciousness as you're presenting it.Quote from: L ThammyQuoteI feel like "it is difficult to criticize the historical figures or beliefs of a philosophy because the philosophy ensured that it would be continued as an ethnic group" is just extremely bad for society though.Let's all just agree to this even as we protect minority groups that were formed by this philosophy trying to maintain itself.In case you didn't catch the point of the post that you were replying to, Sikhs aren't Muslims. But with increased Islamophobia we see increased violence against Sikhs because of the connection between Islamophobia and white supremacy. The racism spills out to non-Muslim brown people as well.QuoteQuoteSikhs were attacked for their looks and the color of their skin, not because of any tenants of Sikhism.There's a very real difference between mocking an ancient imaginary belief system and discriminating those who believe in them.A religion is a non tangible thing. Not a person or a people.You've missed the point.Islam is effectively racialized in the eyes of bigots, where they don't distinguish based on tenants, but on skin colour instead.Quote from: L ThammyQuoteSikhs were attacked for their looks and the color of their skin, not because of any tenants of Sikhism.There's a very real difference between mocking an ancient imaginary belief system and discriminating those who believe in them.A religion is a non tangible thing. Not a person or a people.I'm saying that there are specifically Sikhs murdered as a result of racism overflowing from the increase in Islamophobic sentiments following 9/11. They were specifically murdered because they were profiled as Muslims despite not being them. People are being murdered because Islamophobia and racism are not entirely separate beasts.QuoteYou cannot divorce Islamophobia from race.That ship has long since sailed, specifically when dealing with bigots.With that in mind, I'm completely fine with these episodes remaining banned because those same bigots that are likely to shoot up a mosque, or attack anyone that physically matches the "look", will use that material to further dehumanize Muslims.Quote"Either everything is okay or nothing is okay". We're seeing that play out right now and I'm thinking some thing's aren't okay. South Park are the pioneers of edge lording it to the max and goddamn are we worse off for it. I don't care that we've got professional edge lords making their shitty cartoons, but they sure influenced a lot of homebrew edge lords that really don't understand the actual point of it or what makes things funny in the first place. I say that as a fan of Rick and Morty, cause yeah, fuck that show too.QuoteQuote from: Whalesim sorry I just find it funny how OP went from '' if we make fun of one thing we should be able to make fun of everything'' and then 5 posts in the very same OP says he feels it would be good to ban the transphobic episodes.maybe you should apply the very same logic you're thinking about with these transphobic episodes to why muslims dont want Muhammad's PBUH face shownway to show you know absolutely nothing about Islam, maybe don't come in a thread to literally spew fake garbage? Are you happy to misinform people?There are honest ass laws promoting genocide against trans people going on right now. You REALLY want to imply mocking some silly ancient rule that only applies to it's practitioners that literally hurts NO ONE is the same?Quote from: Whalesislamophobia isnt real?didnt an american ex-president literally start a war for fake reasons, that killed over a million ( according to a quick google research) arabs and muslims, most of them being civillians? why do people with ethnic sounding names get less job opportunities and less education? why does me and my whole family always randomly get searched at airports? you really want to act like people arent racist to basically just a skin color at this point? how is NO ONE being hurt when you reinforce islamophobia?and the whole show reeks of garbage too. One of the main insult cartman uses all the time is literally call Kyle a jew. jew jew jew. As if it was an insult. Oh and also always equating his greed to being jewish. The show is just straight garbage. Funny moments sure but you'd gain way more as a society by just deleting all of it at this point.Quote from: purplemonkey111US literally went to war in the middle east due to Islamophobia. Remember the War on Terror?and the justification of it's ok to make fun of Islam cause I make fun of other religions is just insane. That's like saying I can wear black face, cause I also wear yellow face and brown face too.Quote from: Nepenthe, AdministratorQuoteSome of us are trying to understand why y’all are so pressed to offend someone.I mean, we all know why. Minorities gatekeeping their culture is an affront to white folks, so we have to do this song and dance every single time about how there should be no limits and basic respect is somehow just impossible to maintain, unless it crosses the line of white people's sensibilities. Can't wait for the next n-word thread or Indigenous culture thread where we rehash the same stupid shit.Quote from: BooshkaYou can be an edgy atheist while also recognizing the capitalist global hegemony of white supremacist evangelical Christianity.So, if you are attacking minoritized populations, their belief structures and identities, especially those that have been oppressed historically, and contemporaneously, then you are being a bit of an ass.As with all religions and belief structures, so long as they push for progressive values and care for people then they are not the problem.Some libertarian jackass that subscribes to free market capitalism and the white supremacy it upholds is far more damaging to humanity than a devoted Muslim.QuoteOver 4 million Muslims killed by the West in the last 30 years (and those are just the ones we know about from publicised wars), with Western Muslims still living in fear that anything they say will get them thrown into black site prisons, but the real victims are ERA posters who... Oh right, are still spouting Islamophobic bullshit on a daily basis. Quote from: Transistor, AdministratorThis thread has generated a high number of reports, and it is now locked to further discussion.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/my-girlfriend-has-an-abusive-mother-and-i-do-not-know-how-to-deal-with-it.719650/#post-105718885Poor gf needs someone that's not a manchild
Quote from: Jansen on May 15, 2023, 11:03:49 PMhttps://www.resetera.com/threads/my-girlfriend-has-an-abusive-mother-and-i-do-not-know-how-to-deal-with-it.719650/#post-105718885Poor gf needs someone that's not a manchildNeed an Era dating game show. When your choices are a guy with a restraining order obsessed with marvel, guy who expects to own you for a fee, jobless guy who obsessively stalks Twitter likes, guy trying to recruit for ISIS, guy who calls you a whore for showing more than 10mm of thigh… that guy might be the least bad choice. Or the premature jizz guy.
Quote from: Polident Hive on May 16, 2023, 04:18:35 AMQuote from: Jansen on May 15, 2023, 11:03:49 PMhttps://www.resetera.com/threads/my-girlfriend-has-an-abusive-mother-and-i-do-not-know-how-to-deal-with-it.719650/#post-105718885Poor gf needs someone that's not a manchildNeed an Era dating game show. When your choices are a guy with a restraining order obsessed with marvel, guy who expects to own you for a fee, jobless guy who obsessively stalks Twitter likes, guy trying to recruit for ISIS, guy who calls you a whore for showing more than 10mm of thigh… that guy might be the least bad choice. Or the premature jizz guy.Here’s the ZeroVagine segment:https://twitter.com/legotrillermoth/status/1611604082774482946
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I've been reading the opinions on this thread and it seems like a low information echo chamber. Some questions I have: 1. Has anyone seen the video before making a judgment one way or another? 2. Apparently there were two others that held down the victim. Should they charged with crimes as well? 3. There is no doubt that some black people in the US can suffer great injustices. But why is race being discussed at all here? The victim here has assaulted multiple people before, including a 67 year old lady - that instantly reduces the amount of sympathy for the victim. For the big defenders of Neely, it seems like a strange hill to die on.Overall, I'm very sad to see this story being heavily politicized by both the left (AOC) and right (DeSantis). Especially since our country should concern with more important matters to deal with, e.g. gun violence. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/man-who-fatally-choked-nyc-subway-rider-jordan-neely-surrenders-on-manslaughter-charge
It just feels very dated, back to a time when movies had Part 1/Part 2 released that audiences didn't really like in the first place.
With all due respect, why are you saying this like it's a fact that audiences didn't like this?There has been no evidence that general audiences don't care for this, or wait until both movies are available to watch.There's also been a bunch of Part 1 films that had general audiences rush out to see.
Imagine taking the brown muslim girl character that has been Marvel's most popular modern character besides Miles Morales, the character with a well liked show and an upcoming film mere MONTHS from now, the character rumored to be a central piece in the next big avengers film.And you turn her into a shock fridge death because your entire run is about pissing people off and making money out of the outrage.
Not a bad cover, but my hype is still dead after everything Yoshida & his team have said about diversity.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/issue-26-of-the-amazing-spider-man-just-leaked-and-well-spoilers.719830/page-2#post-105740248Quote from: Fj0823Imagine taking the brown muslim girl character that has been Marvel's most popular modern character besides Miles Morales, the character with a well liked show and an upcoming film mere MONTHS from now, the character rumored to be a central piece in the next big avengers film.And you turn her into a shock fridge death because your entire run is about pissing people off and making money out of the outrage.
Does somebody in editorial just hate Kamala or something? I've admittedly been behind on comics the past year and half or so, but they've cancelled her ongoing series, killed her off multiple times and put her into comas.
The talking points this gives the comicsgaters are also awfulI can picture it already "Marvel kills off failed woke forced diversity character"And it'll only get worse when the movie comes out.Everything about this decision fucking sucks
We may assume things may continue the status quo for a while, but for many issues comic fans complained about, things only changed when enough fan backlash forced the company to backtrack on the subject. If you don't like the way things are going, the best way to stop it is to make sure people don't put money into the thing you like. If you don't like the current direction, don't buy the book. Convince others you know not to buy the book. And if people still like it... that's okay. Everyone's entitled to enjoy what they like. Don't harass the people responsible, but make sure that it's known how you feel about it.[Spoilers]This is how I felt about The Rise of Skywalker and I feel like paying the price for not defending The Last Jedi.[/Spoiler]
