Other Forums Containment Thread

[Nintex]

Look at this idiot not knowing that culture is inherited genetically.

btw. I am an expert on slavic culture

I had a Serbian co-worker. He really was a nice guy, in fact one of the nicest and most kind hearted people I've ever met.

But whenever the subject of his homeland came up... oh boy.

[HaughtyFrank]

One more:

User Banned (1 Month): Dismissing Concerns of Racism; Account in Junior Phase

If you're gonna take on a project like this, you need to make sure you're authentic to the culture in question. And while the Verge article mentions that there were Chinese consultants, the devs clearly didn't listen. Hiring Chinese developers for the project would've gone a long way in helping catch these issues early on.

As for your statement about there being no malice, that doesn't mean that these issues shouldn't be called. Ignorance may not be as bad a malice, but it's still bad. I should know, I discussed similar ignorance regarding anti-Blackness in Smash a while back.

Why are you assuming the devs didn’t listen to the Chinese consults? The consultants could have approved everything, or thought certain aspects were not a big deal, or a few details just slipped through the cracks. It’s pretty unfair you’re throwing the devs under the bus with absolutely zero evidence.

Saw that one coming. It's okay to just fabricate that the devs ignored the consultants but reminding people that there is no evidence of this is a ban.

[marrec]

One more:

User Banned (1 Month): Dismissing Concerns of Racism; Account in Junior Phase

If you're gonna take on a project like this, you need to make sure you're authentic to the culture in question. And while the Verge article mentions that there were Chinese consultants, the devs clearly didn't listen. Hiring Chinese developers for the project would've gone a long way in helping catch these issues early on.

As for your statement about there being no malice, that doesn't mean that these issues shouldn't be called. Ignorance may not be as bad a malice, but it's still bad. I should know, I discussed similar ignorance regarding anti-Blackness in Smash a while back.

Why are you assuming the devs didn’t listen to the Chinese consults? The consultants could have approved everything, or thought certain aspects were not a big deal, or a few details just slipped through the cracks. It’s pretty unfair you’re throwing the devs under the bus with absolutely zero evidence.

Saw that one coming. It's okay to just fabricate that the devs ignored the consultants but reminding people that there is no evidence of this is a ban.

I'm going to take everything that this article says are 100% absolutely true despite the author already being called out for misrepresenting the word "Sifu" and further I 100% believe that the Devs who paid money for consultancy did not utilize it based on the razor sharp cultural commentary of the person who didn't know how to use "Sifu" properly.

[cosmicblizzard]

You know how some people will go "but where are you REALLY from?" when some Asian or Arab guy tells them they're from Boston or whatever?  That's what some of these people sound like.  This age of strict aversion to anything even resembling cultural appropriation has the annoying side effect of race overwriting culture due to how America treats race.  It's the kind of thing that makes me wonder if most white progressives have only white friends if they're going to overestimate how many PoC have any kind of cultural connection to their heritage THIS much.

[benjipwns]

True people of color would be as outraged as I, a politically aware white person who holds and has always held all the proper views, am. Others are skin folk, not kin folk.

[team filler]

 

[NekoFever]

So considering martial arts is not a part of white culture, they could have hired people from the background of it.

Lol wat

There isn’t a culture on earth that doesn’t have its own martial arts. The term itself comes from descriptions of Ancient Greek combat sports.

[Straight Edge]

So considering martial arts is not a part of white culture, they could have hired people from the background of it.

Lol wat

There isn’t a culture on earth that doesn’t have its own martial arts. The term itself comes from descriptions of Ancient Greek combat sports.

He means white people don't have that ching-chong type of martial arts.

[Potato]

Look at this idiot not knowing that culture is inherited genetically.

btw. I am an expert on slavic culture

I had a Serbian co-worker. He really was a nice guy, in fact one of the nicest and most kind hearted people I've ever met.

But whenever the subject of his homeland came up... oh boy.

Same experience. Great people, just don't criticise their country or God (Novak Djokovic).

[Potato]

You know how some people will go "but where are you REALLY from?" when some Asian or Arab guy tells them they're from Boston or whatever?  That's what some of these people sound like.  This age of strict aversion to anything even resembling cultural appropriation has the annoying side effect of race overwriting culture due to how America treats race.  It's the kind of thing that makes me wonder if most white progressives have only white friends if they're going to overestimate how many PoC have any kind of cultural connection to their heritage THIS much.

There's no need to wonder. Every white progressive that I know only associates with other upper middle class white people and the only time they associate with non-white people is when that person is coming their food, cleaning their house, or the white progressive is "advocating" on their behalf (usually without listening to them).

[Raist]

Given that Chinese people are a tiny minority

Not OK to caricature SE Asian people as vertically challenged, shitlord.

[Drainage]

Appropriating culture: 


Appropriating gender: 


 

[benjipwns]

Appropriating culture: 


Appropriating gender: 


 

Please don't start this again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypatia_transracialism_controversy

[remy]

Man the bans in that Sifu thread are a perfect example of why you should never engage the clique on any topic seriously if you for some inexplicable reason value your resetera account

[team filler]

Man the bans in that Sifu thread are a perfect example of why you should never engage the kliq on any topic seriously if you for some inexplicable reason value your resetera account

[Snoopycat_]

Thread is gone. Last I read he was going to move out, so maybe the poor woman will finally be free.

I wonder if the idiot mods finally realized that insurance companies don't send inheritance cheques to random relatives

[benjipwns]

Can't grab the post now that they moved the thread because the archive function is broken on the ban bot but they banned someone a month for questioning the OP's story:

User Banned (1 month): concern trolling and hostility

I wouldn’t say equal. Although we’re only getting your side of the story, so who knows. But even in this reply, you’re complaining that she never put you first… because she asked for help after your dad died? What? Maybe you didn’t really write what you meant, but “even right after my dad passed?” That’s one time it makes total sense to ask for help, and when it’s understandable to think about your own needs over others. Losing a spouse is one of the most stressful experiences you can go through. Maybe others can enlighten me about how this is actually totally normal behavior, but I don’t know, kind of blown away if you think this is an example of your mom’s behavior that’s supposed to make her out to seem horrible. If someone made a thread about the time their son berated them for being worthless and pathetic what do you think the replies would be like?

You see the OP as the victim of abuse because he’s the one telling the story. And again, not saying the OP and his mom are exactly the same. But the truth of the matter is we don’t know what exactly is going on. But it’s obvious based on the OP’s past threads that there’s a little more to the relationship than the mom just being a piece of shit, end of story. OP has also been banned for lashing out at people on this forum. Is that his mom’s fault?

[Snoopycat_]

If those idiot mods weren't so ban happy more users would have called out obvious bullshit like that

[Uncle]

sifu might get a companion thread 

https://kotaku.com/critical-role-marquet-third-campaign-asian-cultures-col-1848500055

In early fall, the hugely successful Dungeons & Dragons “actual play” series Critical Role announced plans for their third campaign, set in the fictionalized world of Marquet. While the campaign would draw inspiration from real-life SWANA [Southwest Asian/North African] cultures, the group would work together with sensitivity consultants to craft a fantasy continent free of appropriation, Dungeon Master Matt Mercer said in a blog post. Mercer sounds earnest enough, and it’s nice to see them be proactive about hiring consultants right off the bat instead of waiting to be called out on a misstep. So why were some people so mad at them?

When the campaign was initially revealed, the criticism from the tabletop role-playing game sphere and from SWANA creators like myself boiled down to Critical Role making a financial killing off the aesthetics of cultures not represented in the actual cast makeup of the show, which is made up entirely of white people save for a new guest member. There was also a healthy amount of apprehension as to how respectfully this world was being built.

consultants will no longer save you

The intro video that CR has created feels a little too on the nose in that regard. Rather than dressing as characters that reside in the world they’ve created, they are instead dressed like colonial explorers of the 19th and 20th centuries. With a lantern in hand to help them dispel the fog, they are fully embracing their roles as voyeurs. They are cementing their perspective as that of the outsider, even in a fantasy setting of their own creation.

One of the core concepts of Orientalism as a field of study is that even the most well-meaning scholars from the Western world are unable to present objective truths about the Orient. The Western view of the Orient is forever tarnished by the legacy of colonialism and fictionalized history. It’s like trying to get an accurate reflection from a funhouse mirror; you can polish the surface until it becomes clear as much as you want, but it does nothing to fix the distorted reflection of the truth that forms the foundation of the image. And even though it’s a fictionalized, fantastical version of the Orient, Marquet is not exempt from being built on a warped foundation.

This may seem like an overly cynical and bad-faith interpretation of what Critical Role is doing with this new campaign. But real, respectful depictions of the Arab world and of SWANA cultures are few and far between. And we aren’t the ones who have the resources to tell our stories yet. We’re hired to help white creators avoid mistakes and to absolve them of guilt, to shield them from criticism and feel grateful we’re even allowed behind the curtain. Four months later, nothing has worsened, but nothing has assuaged this feeling either.

In October and even now, most arguments in the show’s defense tend to rely on the ever-popular phrase “it’s just a game,” simultaneously chastising critics for overreacting and watering down the reality of what Critical Role actually is.

[...]

But it’s never just a game, especially not with Critical Role. These are inordinately wealthy people who have branded themselves into relatable creators who play tabletop games like everyone else.

[...]

With Critical Role being as influential to D&D as it is, it’s highly likely that Wizards of the Coast will release official Marquet-branded content which will then become the de facto SWANA-based fantasy setting for mainstream tabletop gaming for years to come. And this is understandably worrying to many SWANA people working in games, particularly in tabletop circles. Some express their discomfort only to immediately be hounded by defensive fans.

Much of that defense manifests as fans insisting that the cast members are good people, which they very well may be. But good intent doesn’t matter when the end result is harmful. It doesn’t mean jack shit if you promise to be moral and responsible with your depiction of other cultures and then publicly condemn anyone who is made uncomfortable by your actions.

 





 

[D3RANG3D]

[HaughtyFrank]

sifu might get a companion thread 

https://kotaku.com/critical-role-marquet-third-campaign-asian-cultures-col-1848500055

 

"I can't fucking believe they're wearing safari hats and carry lanterns!!!"

Since the intro sequence was released, the campaign has continued and now has over 12 episodes. It thus far exists in a strange half-space between SWANA-inspired set dressing and the standard, familiar high-fantasy naming conventions of the show’s previous campaigns. There haven’t been any outright offensive descriptions or actions taken, but the way the cast members role-play through the world has felt exactly the same as their previous campaigns. Nothing signifies Marquet as a unique world other than the aesthetic of it. In the end, despite their dedication to creating an appropriation-free world, they fail to present us with anything of substance. All their research and sensitivity efforts pay off in a world that is little more than window dressing.

"...but also why is the whole thing so cookie cutter and safe and boring"

Jesus christ, how about a tiny bit of self reflection. Yes, why is this played so safe when this author is ready to jump at the tiniest things

[benjipwns]

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Sorry, no nacolon, Do The Math™: power + privilege. Whites do not have culture you, as a member of let's be honest an inherently lesser race, can appropriate. Also whites probably stole the idea of role playing in the first place anyway.

[Uncle]

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Sorry, no nacolon, Do The Math™: power + privilege. Whites do not have culture you, as a member of let's be honest an inherently lesser race, can appropriate. Also whites probably stole the idea of role playing in the first place anyway.

"role playing belies the white desire to kill and destroy those different from them, the endless treadmill of colonialism and grave robbing made manifest"

[benjipwns]

 

[D3RANG3D]

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but what does esch think 

[Raist]

What is even the problem here? I thought these people were all about having to hire diversity consultants and stuff like that, and the game had plenty of Chinese consultants, and artists. It's not like these woketards want these white Europeans to make games about their own culture because look at their reaction to Kingdom Come.

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You expect those peeps to have:
- Played the game
- Beaten it
- Looked at the credit
- Acknowledge that the devs DID consult chinese people

You sweet summer child.

[remy]

What is even the problem here? I thought these people were all about having to hire diversity consultants and stuff like that, and the game had plenty of Chinese consultants, and artists. It's not like these woketards want these white Europeans to make games about their own culture because look at their reaction to Kingdom Come.

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You expect those peeps to have:
- Played the game
- Beaten it
- Looked at the credit
- Acknowledge that the devs DID consult chinese people

You sweet summer child.

Kyuji beat cyberpunk 4 times!

[Taco Bell Tower]

What is even the problem here? I thought these people were all about having to hire diversity consultants and stuff like that, and the game had plenty of Chinese consultants, and artists. It's not like these woketards want these white Europeans to make games about their own culture because look at their reaction to Kingdom Come.

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You expect those peeps to have:
- Played the game
- Beaten it
- Looked at the credit
- Acknowledge that the devs DID consult chinese people

You sweet summer child.

Kyuji beat cyberpunk 4 times!

Astro's case was hilarious.  His friend apparently bought the game but wanted his opinion first and since he knew how problematic the game is he decided to test it so he can tell the couples to get the refund after playing some of it.  He supposedly uninstalled it and told his friend to get a refund.  Time goes by and he noticed they still haven't gotten the refund back on Steam so reinstalls it to finish the game

[NekoFever]

sifu might get a companion thread 

https://kotaku.com/critical-role-marquet-third-campaign-asian-cultures-col-1848500055

In early fall, the hugely successful Dungeons & Dragons “actual play” series Critical Role announced plans for their third campaign, set in the fictionalized world of Marquet. While the campaign would draw inspiration from real-life SWANA [Southwest Asian/North African] cultures, the group would work together with sensitivity consultants to craft a fantasy continent free of appropriation, Dungeon Master Matt Mercer said in a blog post. Mercer sounds earnest enough, and it’s nice to see them be proactive about hiring consultants right off the bat instead of waiting to be called out on a misstep. So why were some people so mad at them?

When the campaign was initially revealed, the criticism from the tabletop role-playing game sphere and from SWANA creators like myself boiled down to Critical Role making a financial killing off the aesthetics of cultures not represented in the actual cast makeup of the show, which is made up entirely of white people save for a new guest member. There was also a healthy amount of apprehension as to how respectfully this world was being built.

consultants will no longer save you

The intro video that CR has created feels a little too on the nose in that regard. Rather than dressing as characters that reside in the world they’ve created, they are instead dressed like colonial explorers of the 19th and 20th centuries. With a lantern in hand to help them dispel the fog, they are fully embracing their roles as voyeurs. They are cementing their perspective as that of the outsider, even in a fantasy setting of their own creation.

One of the core concepts of Orientalism as a field of study is that even the most well-meaning scholars from the Western world are unable to present objective truths about the Orient. The Western view of the Orient is forever tarnished by the legacy of colonialism and fictionalized history. It’s like trying to get an accurate reflection from a funhouse mirror; you can polish the surface until it becomes clear as much as you want, but it does nothing to fix the distorted reflection of the truth that forms the foundation of the image. And even though it’s a fictionalized, fantastical version of the Orient, Marquet is not exempt from being built on a warped foundation.

This may seem like an overly cynical and bad-faith interpretation of what Critical Role is doing with this new campaign. But real, respectful depictions of the Arab world and of SWANA cultures are few and far between. And we aren’t the ones who have the resources to tell our stories yet. We’re hired to help white creators avoid mistakes and to absolve them of guilt, to shield them from criticism and feel grateful we’re even allowed behind the curtain. Four months later, nothing has worsened, but nothing has assuaged this feeling either.

In October and even now, most arguments in the show’s defense tend to rely on the ever-popular phrase “it’s just a game,” simultaneously chastising critics for overreacting and watering down the reality of what Critical Role actually is.

[...]

But it’s never just a game, especially not with Critical Role. These are inordinately wealthy people who have branded themselves into relatable creators who play tabletop games like everyone else.

[...]

With Critical Role being as influential to D&D as it is, it’s highly likely that Wizards of the Coast will release official Marquet-branded content which will then become the de facto SWANA-based fantasy setting for mainstream tabletop gaming for years to come. And this is understandably worrying to many SWANA people working in games, particularly in tabletop circles. Some express their discomfort only to immediately be hounded by defensive fans.

Much of that defense manifests as fans insisting that the cast members are good people, which they very well may be. But good intent doesn’t matter when the end result is harmful. It doesn’t mean jack shit if you promise to be moral and responsible with your depiction of other cultures and then publicly condemn anyone who is made uncomfortable by your actions.

 

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Sorry, which SWANA do they mean?

[Bore Expert]

Almost 40 pages

on a Red Letter Media video

in 2018

(!)

PurpleGAF is basically a self-imposed stupidity quarantine for those deathly allergic to both self-awareness and personal growth.

Just the same 300+ people wearing the same avatars and screennames they've had for 10 years, having the same loudly circular arguments they've had since before this place was first owned outright by a jug-eared creep, marking time until another 10 years passes without anyone even once partially noticing their (largely artificial and lamely appropriated) personalities have calcified as if Medusa herself had stared at their adolescence.

(Can't wait for the orgiastic semi-anonymous masked self-congratulation sure to ensue on the one-year anniversary of fleeing the orange version to set up a purple version whose overriding aims and community philosophies are literally no different than Jack Dorsey's.)

It's hilarious how people here, of all the places, have a hard time believing Luke Skywalker could make similar mistakes as the ones he made made as a young man—that he could have aged decades and not really changed much as a person—as if "never change, never grow, just keep doing the exact same shit you did when you first got here 12 years ago" isn't this (thoroughly busted) "community"'s bedrock foundation.

I'd say "Never change, GAF" but you're all way ahead of me.

(Congrats on breaking 40k members, btw. In another couple years maybe you'll eke your way to having 1/4 Wario64's twitter followers—and none of his monetization.)

 

[SmokyDave]

So, what is the Eurocentric term for 'the supranational region including Africa north of the Sahara and a varying number of territories in West or South-West Asia?'

I'm going to suggest that there isn't one, and that inventing 'acronyms of the vaguely marginalised' is the reason that some people get out of bed in the morning.

[headwalk]

there's british and there's foreners. simple as.

[Uncle]

TSRIANOTSAAVNOTIWOSWA?

[Switters]

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Also whites probably stole the idea of role playing in the first place anyway.

You are right. Al Jolson was the first person to come up with the concept of cosplaying the African peoples. This eventually spiraled out into the mainstream culture where they even have conventions at which you can meet and greet other famous cosplayers like Laurence Olivier, John Wayne, and Ironman.
In modern times the fandom is seen as obsessive and willing to incorporate the culture into every facet of their lives. Thus affectation of jigaboo was used to describe the fans who were "a little too into it".

[marrec]

sifu might get a companion thread 

https://kotaku.com/critical-role-marquet-third-campaign-asian-cultures-col-1848500055

 

"I can't fucking believe they're wearing safari hats and carry lanterns!!!"

Since the intro sequence was released, the campaign has continued and now has over 12 episodes. It thus far exists in a strange half-space between SWANA-inspired set dressing and the standard, familiar high-fantasy naming conventions of the show’s previous campaigns. There haven’t been any outright offensive descriptions or actions taken, but the way the cast members role-play through the world has felt exactly the same as their previous campaigns. Nothing signifies Marquet as a unique world other than the aesthetic of it. In the end, despite their dedication to creating an appropriation-free world, they fail to present us with anything of substance. All their research and sensitivity efforts pay off in a world that is little more than window dressing.

"...but also why is the whole thing so cookie cutter and safe and boring"

Jesus christ, how about a tiny bit of self reflection. Yes, why is this played so safe when this author is ready to jump at the tiniest things

"In the end, despite their dedication to creating an appropriation-free world, they fail to present us with anything of substance."

Perhaps it's not "despite" and it's "because of"?

Creators need to stop treating these overblown controversies stirred up by extremely small populations within their communities as anything more than the fits of children who crave negative attention.

As we've been saying for years, apologies and acknowledging and "promising to do better" will ALWAYS just lead to them trying to extract more and more and more and it's not worth the constant self-flagellation to appease maybe 3-400 very vocal and very bad faith people. Just fucking ignore it.

[Snoopycat_]

[SmokyDave]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/90s-2000s-video-game-print-ads-sure-were-something.550249/

I always get bummed out when I see Slayven try to have a bit of a cheeky laugh. It’s like watching someone in a coma twitch.

Sorry Slay, you’re surrounded by misery in human form, and you will be constantly reminded. There’s no way that thread doesn’t end up locked or full of pompous shits.

[jorma]

sifu might get a companion thread 

https://kotaku.com/critical-role-marquet-third-campaign-asian-cultures-col-1848500055

In early fall, the hugely successful Dungeons & Dragons “actual play” series Critical Role announced plans for their third campaign, set in the fictionalized world of Marquet. While the campaign would draw inspiration from real-life SWANA [Southwest Asian/North African] cultures, the group would work together with sensitivity consultants to craft a fantasy continent free of appropriation, Dungeon Master Matt Mercer said in a blog post. Mercer sounds earnest enough, and it’s nice to see them be proactive about hiring consultants right off the bat instead of waiting to be called out on a misstep. So why were some people so mad at them?

When the campaign was initially revealed, the criticism from the tabletop role-playing game sphere and from SWANA creators like myself boiled down to Critical Role making a financial killing off the aesthetics of cultures not represented in the actual cast makeup of the show, which is made up entirely of white people save for a new guest member. There was also a healthy amount of apprehension as to how respectfully this world was being built.

consultants will no longer save you

The intro video that CR has created feels a little too on the nose in that regard. Rather than dressing as characters that reside in the world they’ve created, they are instead dressed like colonial explorers of the 19th and 20th centuries. With a lantern in hand to help them dispel the fog, they are fully embracing their roles as voyeurs. They are cementing their perspective as that of the outsider, even in a fantasy setting of their own creation.

One of the core concepts of Orientalism as a field of study is that even the most well-meaning scholars from the Western world are unable to present objective truths about the Orient. The Western view of the Orient is forever tarnished by the legacy of colonialism and fictionalized history. It’s like trying to get an accurate reflection from a funhouse mirror; you can polish the surface until it becomes clear as much as you want, but it does nothing to fix the distorted reflection of the truth that forms the foundation of the image. And even though it’s a fictionalized, fantastical version of the Orient, Marquet is not exempt from being built on a warped foundation.

This may seem like an overly cynical and bad-faith interpretation of what Critical Role is doing with this new campaign. But real, respectful depictions of the Arab world and of SWANA cultures are few and far between. And we aren’t the ones who have the resources to tell our stories yet. We’re hired to help white creators avoid mistakes and to absolve them of guilt, to shield them from criticism and feel grateful we’re even allowed behind the curtain. Four months later, nothing has worsened, but nothing has assuaged this feeling either.

In October and even now, most arguments in the show’s defense tend to rely on the ever-popular phrase “it’s just a game,” simultaneously chastising critics for overreacting and watering down the reality of what Critical Role actually is.

[...]

But it’s never just a game, especially not with Critical Role. These are inordinately wealthy people who have branded themselves into relatable creators who play tabletop games like everyone else.

[...]

With Critical Role being as influential to D&D as it is, it’s highly likely that Wizards of the Coast will release official Marquet-branded content which will then become the de facto SWANA-based fantasy setting for mainstream tabletop gaming for years to come. And this is understandably worrying to many SWANA people working in games, particularly in tabletop circles. Some express their discomfort only to immediately be hounded by defensive fans.

Much of that defense manifests as fans insisting that the cast members are good people, which they very well may be. But good intent doesn’t matter when the end result is harmful. It doesn’t mean jack shit if you promise to be moral and responsible with your depiction of other cultures and then publicly condemn anyone who is made uncomfortable by your actions.

 

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Sorry, which SWANA do they mean?

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it's not a little bit funny that the second SWANA actually just links to MENA which i suppose is the colonialist whitey term for exactly the same thing 

[Joe Molotov]

u SWANA ligma balls

[BisMarckie]

Girls just SWANA have fun

[Cauliflower Of Love]

dave chapelle thread?


https://www.resetera.com/threads/dave-chappelle-successfully-campaigns-against-affordable-housing-plan-after-threatening-to-cut-business-ties-with-city.550492/


dave chapelle thread.

The pelvic thrusts with which this man should go fuck himself just keep increasing in intensity.

[benjipwns]

It's like people forget that Dave was one of the most well known prominent Trump supporters in 2016. And that before that he played a huge part in Gamergate.

[Propagandhim]

I mean it is pretty shitty of Chapelle to do that.  He's pretty preachy about lower classes and race shit in his act, which is cool, but he's kind of a hypocrite in his own backyard.

[HardcoreRetro]

If you search a bit further it seems that they aren't against affordable housing, but against this specific plan cause it sounds like a load of bullshit.

I don't trust anything these checkmark twitter accounts say without looking into it myself.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1491448789558865927

Dave

So, what is the Eurocentric term for 'the supranational region including Africa north of the Sahara and a varying number of territories in West or South-West Asia?'

I'm going to suggest that there isn't one, and that inventing 'acronyms of the vaguely marginalised' is the reason that some people get out of bed in the morning.

Rommel's sandbox

[Cauliflower Of Love]

[Taco Bell Tower]

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That old quote about how fame doesn't change people but reveals what they always were inside was spot on...

[marrec]

If you search a bit further it seems that they aren't against affordable housing, but against this specific plan cause it sounds like a load of bullshit.

I don't trust anything these checkmark twitter accounts say without looking into it myself.

Did a lot of reading and it seems like the normal development troubles you'd see anywhere else. This company wants to make a ton of 300k+ dollar housing, and proposed a small crave off for Affordable Housing which would not be developed by them but would be up to the village to oversee and develop... i.e. it would never actually happen because that's ALWAYS the gameplan for these developments:

1) Development buys oodles of land from old dying/dead couple
2) They propose a housing development to the city that rezones the majority (or all) into a less regulated zoning designation (Planned Use).
3) In order to sweeten the pot they plan to give a small portion of this land to the village (or city) for "affordable housing"
4) The village planning committee, wanting all the money that this would bring, tries to implement this plan
5) A mix of opposition is presented, from NIMBYs to people legitimately concerned with affordable housing.
6) The proposed rezoning is scuttled along with the "affordable housing" plan.
7) Development company moves forward with the housing development anyway sans high density and/or affordable housing.

Company gets to point to all this as proof that they are for affordable housing, village does as well, everyone blames NIMBYs, expensive housing goes up, market goes up, low income people are forced out.

It doesn't help the NIMBYs when you have dudes like this:

Max Crome, a local architect, was critical of Oberer’s intentions behind rezoning their property to a PUD, and stated that the new designation would allow the company to develop the neighborhood without much oversight.

“They’re saving the hassle of having to apply for each application and the hassle of evaluating each site individually,” Crome said. “We’re giving up the ability to control the look and the feel of the development. We need to guard the culture of this village.”

Yikes dude that's a big oof

Either way, I can't find any specific motivation for Chapelle's opposition but in an e-mail sent to the Yellow Springs Planning Commission Felicia Chapelle (Dave's sister) is quite explicit about her opposition.

As usual, it's best to get all of this information first hand from meeting notes: https://clerkshq.com/yellowsprings-oh?docid=AGENDA&fbclid=IwAR1qmvac8H0RXtS6xDKvB0Ms75_w8l0ikEU4szMzo6Yu_Ogxh7c2qpL6RNM

The Felicia e-mail is in particular is elucidating and offers much more context than just "known TERF Dave Chapelle opposes this so it must be good".

[Nintex]

I wonder why some White Queer. Bipolar. Deputy Editor, Legal Affairs, he/him soy from @gridnews would incite a mob against Dave Chapelle.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

So Dave chappele, the self made billionaire from terf jokes, may have  actually been looking out in the best interest?

[marrec]

So Dave chappele, the self made billionaire from terf jokes, may have  actually been looking out in the best interest?

Hard to say for certain but I will use this as an analogy:

If someone wanted to develop the land across the street from my house I would be vehemently opposed to PUD development because safety on our street is already awful and multiple people have died over the last decade from drivers going too fast and losing control. It would have nothing to do with affordable housing development and everything to do with the safety of current residents. I have, in fact, been to multiple planning development meetings to speak against proposed rezoning of local areas specifically for this reason.

However if anyone were to report on this hypothetical, my specific opposition would likely just be lumped in with racist NIMBYs.

Also, "Dave Chapelle Campaigns Against Affordable Housing" is 100% a lie.

It should read "Dave Chapelle Campaigns Against Planned Rezoning for Development Company".

[Nintex]

Can't have those dangerous Brazilian liberal truckers and/or Canadian Nazi truckers live next door. I totally understand.

[Straight Edge]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/woman-punches-and-shoots-restaurant-employee-in-face-over-missing-burger

photo of assailants is posted...

we really posting washingtonexamier links?

Sorry, I'm not American so I didn't know what the alignment of the site is :/

[Cauliflower Of Love]

i mean


washington examiner, the logo is basically the germany insginia

[Nintex]

Not really top of the page tier content imo

[marrec]

It's not surprising that all it took was Dave Chapelle being in opposition to a giant corporations redevelopment plans for ERA to suddenly be pro Corpo bootlickers.

[benjipwns]

Too many people want to frame everything as a grand debate about some universal policy that should be imposed. Normally, this is fine because that's all anyone is actually talking about or discussing at a relatively high level and it's probably more entertaining and can be thoughtful and also help to establish the contours of a debate, but when it comes to cases like this there are local specifics irrelevant to overarching policy and everything cuts across cleavages in those specifics. The Chappelle's, or anyone, can oppose a specific decision on specific grounds and reading a broader ideological motive about broader policy into that decision making is not the "gotcha" you think it is nor does it prove what you want it to prove about "true intentions" or bad faith.

This is a subtweet.

[benjipwns]

Got another one:

User Banned (1 Month): Dismissive Commentary over Representation Concerns; Prior Bans for Similar Behaviour

I have to admit, I don't think the article in OP does a good job of providing examples as to why the game is soulless.

I understand the occasional off translation sucks, but, the examples of "no money, no goods" or use of the word "Sifu" aren't enough to convince me of any malice. It then, by design or not, leads many to believe the all-white studio had zero Chinese consultants on the issue. But, the Verge article details that they did, and those consultants also worked on the localization, cultural elements, and, to top it off, it's been well-received in China.

Genuinely willing to be further educated here, but, I feel like I'm reading two pretty different stories about the development of the game, and only one of them is based on conjecture, with no good examples other than it's made by a white team.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Too many people want to frame everything as a grand debate about some universal policy that should be imposed. Normally, this is fine because that's all anyone is actually talking about or discussing at a relatively high level and it's probably more entertaining and can be thoughtful and also help to establish the contours of a debate, but when it comes to cases like this there are local specifics irrelevant to overarching policy and everything cuts across cleavages in those specifics. The Chappelle's, or anyone, can oppose a specific decision on specific grounds and reading a broader ideological motive about broader policy into that decision making is not the "gotcha" you think it is nor does it prove what you want it to prove about "true intentions" or bad faith.

This is a subtweet.

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