Other Forums Containment Thread

[benjipwns]

It's amazing you think I'm that stupid that I needed a breakdown. I understand how times change; I don't understand what you people don't understand about how the occurrence of cultural practices doesn't correlate inversely proportional with time, especially if we presume that inequalities among different ethnic groups still exist and still continue to be unaddressed. Like, why are you assuming Black people have equal access to the same quality of food that whites do?

No, you are that stupid. Possibly even stupider.

[benjipwns]

You're right. I'm annoyingly optimistic, but I think Era is a community that wants to do better with things like this. As much as it feels like banging your head against a brick wall, I know that I'll be slower to use snark and make assumptions about where someone is coming from after this thread. I legit think it would be worth adding a threadmark or mod post (to this thread, and wherever something like this happens), because this isn't just another "I just found out some people clean their teeth with toothpaste; my dad always said to use syrup and he never had a cavity in his life" Era thread.

Yes, please add a threadmark that washing meat is a cultural practice for Black people.

[Potato]

Resetera has taught me:

• Black people wash meat, but don't wash their arse.
• Black people love to eat arse, but insist on washing meat because it might be dirty
• Black people wash meat because of ingrained cultural practices, but won't stop even in the face of overwhelming evidence that it is actually more harmful

Did I miss anything?

[thetylerrob]

Like, why are you assuming Black people have equal access to the same quality of food that whites do?

Does Nepenthe think grocery stores are still segregated or some shit? She may be the most stubborn idiot on the entire forum.

[benjipwns]

Isn't the very title of the thread the first shot here?

I'd also like to point out that it's several mods and admins who are deliberately making this thread hostile.

misinformation in a sensitive thread

[Propagandhim]

I legit think it would be worth adding a threadmark or mod post (to this thread, and wherever something like this happens), because this isn't just another "I just found out some people clean their teeth with toothpaste; my dad always said to use syrup and he never had a cavity in his life" Era thread.

Except people are still arguing that washing your teeth with syrup is necessary if you can only get toothpaste from dirty black-owned supermarkets.

[benjipwns]

Does Nepenthe think grocery stores are still segregated or some shit? She may be the most stubborn idiot on the entire forum.

Meat producers look at the racial demographic breakdown of areas for stores and send all the meat they dragged through gravel only to those stores where Black people predominate. This isn't hard. Straighten up and stop being condescending.

[clothedmacuser]

You thought that "I don't understand difference" post was me being literal, and not being sarcastic to another poster? Christ on a stick.

Also, you don't know my practices. I have never had an instance of food poisoning from my own cooking, and everyone who's eaten my food says it's pretty darn good.

Also, real "don't use deodorant and nobody tells me I smell" energy.

[benjipwns]

Coming from my Black ass, I don't think Era collectively wants to do better, and if they do, they're really quiet about it. Absolutely nothing is going to be learned from this thread, and Era will continue being a liberal hellhole. But I always appreciate it when folks like yourself make a call to action to just take a moment.

Alright, you literally just posted you didn't understand something and I tried to help in a respectful way. This is pretty clearly pointless.

I genuinely hope your practices don't get you or others sick.

You thought that "I don't understand difference" post was me being literal, and not being sarcastic to another poster? Christ on a stick.

Also, you don't know my practices. I have never had an instance of food poisoning from my own cooking, and everyone who's eaten my food says it's pretty darn good.

They don't trust us to pour dirty water down a damned sink.....

Nor to clean up after ourselves. If I'm not actively tending to an ingredient, guess what I'm doing in the kitchen.

my chicken is going into that oven drier than death valley

Bruh. xDDD

Absolute truth: ResetERA.com is full of racists, Russians and Canadian truckers.

[BisMarckie]

Is it ignorance when a white butcher lace your food with foreign debris or just haphazardly toss your food around This shit happened alot for black people.

This.

As has been pointed out, there are cultural reasons to do this even if one knows it's less safe.

I am no expert, but I would stop buying meat from that butcher.

[Propagandhim]

Best part is Slayven probably peaced out like 2 hours ago, and is probably staring cross-eyed at some comic books with his hands down his pants while Nepenthe is having another breakdown.

[Nintex]

Nor to clean up after ourselves. If I'm not actively tending to an ingredient, guess what I'm doing in the kitchen.

You shower in the sink cuz that's what black people do?

I honestly have no idea what you are doing in the kitchen besides cooking

[joeboy101]

Best part is Slayven probably peaced out like 2 hours ago, and is probably staring cross-eyed at some comic books with his hands down his pants while Nepenthe is having another breakdown.

Over meat washing.

...

I feel like this season's writers have taken us in an odd direction, but I respect their determination to power through with the storyline.

[benjipwns]

i still get meat with bone dust, unknown grit, hard pieces of who knows what, blood clots, feathers, etc. I'm rinsing. sorry cdc.

Rather than washing it, you should probably start buying meat from a grocery store rather than picking it off the ground.

oh screw you buddy. i shop at the same grocery stores everyone else around here does.

jerk.

and be surprised to learn people don't all have the time to go back to return things they buy, especially if its weeks after and you don't have a receipt.

If it was literally bad meat or something (which has happened) I might consider, but otherwise, i'm good, okay? And I wash the chicken and the rocks and matter don't end up in my food. I'm not worried about ya'lls opinions, believe me.

[BisMarckie]

TIL that American food standards are so low that there regularly are pebbles and feathers on meat.

Canada should liberate you in a special military operation. 

[benjipwns]

This dude is so going on a list:

Coming from my Black ass, I don't think Era collectively wants to do better, and if they do, they're really quiet about it. Absolutely nothing is going to be learned from this thread, and Era will continue being a liberal hellhole. But I always appreciate it when folks like yourself make a call to action to just take a moment.


You thought that "I don't understand difference" post was me being literal, and not being sarcastic to another poster? Christ on a stick.

Also, you don't know my practices. I have never had an instance of food poisoning from my own cooking, and everyone who's eaten my food says it's pretty darn good.

In my defense, it's internet discourse, sarcasm isn't necessarily an easily detected thing. Also, your post history didn't really give me the impression you were being sarcastic. Not a lot of acknowledgement that you understood that washing your meat was not a good idea in this day and age, but a lot of justifications for the practice.

No one in this thread is getting banned, or even warned, for anything they post in here. Calm down, Karen.

Shit like this feels very unnecessary to me. How is this adding to the discourse? Is this another case of me missing the sarcasm, or are you just being really hostile?

[BisMarckie]

Again I am no expert, but if there is slime on the surface of a cut of meat weeks(!) after I bought it, I would just assume it has gone bad.

[clothedmacuser]

No one in this thread is getting banned, or even warned, for anything they post in here. Calm down, Karen.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/wait-not-everyone-washes-and-dries-their-meat-before-seasoning.558760/post-83075833


Yes, nespresso.  They are all the Karens.  It's them who doing the Karen.  Call those Karens out.  You are not a Karen.

[benjipwns]

My posts in here are to get people to stop acting like colonizers.

[BisMarckie]

i still get meat with bone dust, unknown grit, hard pieces of who knows what, blood clots, feathers, etc. I'm rinsing. sorry cdc.

Rather than washing it, you should probably start buying meat from a grocery store rather than picking it off the ground.

oh screw you buddy. i shop at the same grocery stores everyone else around here does.

jerk.

and be surprised to learn people don't all have the time to go back to return things they buy, especially if its weeks after and you don't have a receipt.

If it was literally bad meat or something (which has happened) I might consider, but otherwise, i'm good, okay? And I wash the chicken and the rocks and matter don't end up in my food. I'm not worried about ya'lls opinions, believe me.

This man is 36 years old. Think about that.

[BisMarckie]

My posts in here are to get people to stop acting like colonizers.

[Propagandhim]

My posts in here are to get people to stop acting like colonizers.

 

[benjipwns]

Slayven: "lol people don't actually wash their meat?"
Posters: "no"
Nepenthe: "ya'll, this stupidity is obviously a Black thing, don't criticize it"
Posters: "no"
Nepenthe: "stop being colonizers, ya'll Karens shot first"

[Chim Richalds]

You thought that "I don't understand difference" post was me being literal, and not being sarcastic to another poster? Christ on a stick.

Also, you don't know my practices. I have never had an instance of food poisoning from my own cooking, and everyone who's eaten my food says it's pretty darn good.

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Also, real "don't use deodorant and nobody tells me I smell" energy.

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Well yeah, of course they're gonna say it's good.  How do you think they figure you'd react if they said the food prepared by a gnome in a furry suit who can barely see over the edge of the stove screaming about crackas while she(?) cooks wasn't good?  They'd be under a Versa in 5 seconds.

[benjipwns]

Again I am no expert, but if there is slime on the surface of a cut of meat weeks(!) after I bought it, I would just assume it has gone bad.

Nah, fam, it's that the grocery store hates you, the protagonist of the universe, personally. Only reasonable explanation there could be.

[benjipwns]

Guy who runs the Persian-Mexican food truck posted his Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/senorsaffron/

https://senorsaffron.co.uk/about

[BisMarckie]

Meat only goes bad for minority posters on resetera dot com. You don't think that's suspicious? 

[benjipwns]

My posts in here are to get people to stop acting like colonizers.

Good lord.

Your entire shtick this thread has been directly looking at folks explaining that A.) historical differences in the acquisition of food, and that food's quality, between different ethnicities helped in part to give rise to different food prep practices, that B.) inequalities still exist with regards to access to food safety information and the availability of quality of food between different ethnicities, C.) that scientifically, people do not change deeply-ingrained cultural practices and beliefs immediately based upon merely being presented with conflicting information, especially if the information isn't really addressing the root causes of a cultural practice, and going

"Fuck all of that. If you don't act like I do you're just anti-science."

BIG colonizer energy, and with your whole chest too.

I'll repeat; Good lord.

[BisMarckie]

Most traditional cuisine is based on poor people food. Even European colonizer food. But that means getting less desirable cuts that you have to cook for hours, not getting rotten meat that you have to wash in the widely available fresh and not contaminated water before modern plumbing.

[BisMarckie]

Sometimes I just throw my steak on the floor so I can wash it again.

[benjipwns]

Sometimes, I throw out the meat and just cook the water I used to wash it off in.

[james]

Hmm, I'll admit that I was washing chicken for years due to parental upbringing before I learned about the higher chance of contaminants spreading around your cooking area when you do that.

When I worked in food services, we were required to wash the chicken.

Did the CDC mislead me?

[BisMarckie]

It's also not that big of a deal tbh if you wash raw meat. Especially not big enough to be so mad that you invoke colonialism.

[james]

Where I worked we had a specific sink only for meat so maybe thats why.

1 sink for meat.
1 sink for vegetables
1 sink area for washing the big stuff

[Propagandhim]

which sink did you wash away the sordid stink of european expansionism

[BisMarckie]

In which one were you supposed to pee?

[benjipwns]

Washing meat is not about washing off harmful bacteria. It's about washing off less-harmful bacteria that can negatively impact flavor.

Like sometimes you get really fresh chicken and it smells like nothing. Sometimes you get chicken that's not spoiled, but is a bit slimy and has a strong poultry smell to it. Washing removes unpleasant odors which result from bacteria that is not necessarily harmful.

I don't necessarily do it with poultry, but fish is a no brainer. I keep frozen fish basa in the freezer all the time, and it has a bit of a fishy smell/taste to it since it's not fresh out of the water. So I rinse it to get rid of the taste and I have a much cleaner tasting filet as a result.

And I said this before, but there are some cuts you absolutely do need to wash. Any kind of coarse chopped meat/bone combination needs to be washed carefully to remove blood and bone shards.

lol, getting rid of the smell isn't getting rid of the reason for the smell!

[BisMarckie]

lol, getting rid of the smell isn't getting rid of the reason for the smell!

That's why I don't even cook it, I just pour an entire can of adobo on there.

[Uncle]

My posts in here are to get people to stop acting like colonizers.

Nepenthe, everybody:

[NekoFever]

I’m still laughing at “meat store”.

[james]

lol, getting rid of the smell isn't getting rid of the reason for the smell!

That's why I don't even cook it, I just pour an entire can of adobo on there.

Ceviche is an ancient indigenous cooking method

[BisMarckie]

It's pretty simple. If your folks have historically been given the filthiest scraps from the people who shackled them as slaves, and from abolition on have been subject to both deliberate mishandling of meat from assholes, as well as general access to lower quality meats in the local area due to inequalities related to things like food distribution and Jim Crow laws, and we get on further down the line regarding the issues with food desserts and things, guess what you might start doing to your meat to try and cut down on illness.

Probably cook it.


Turning that crank up to 11. 

[Uncle]

I’m still laughing at “meat store”.

reliving the classics

https://twitter.com/jon_prosser/status/1159362699836436480

[james]

general access to lower quality meat

Like tongue? Mexicans love that shit. 

[BisMarckie]

Like tongue? Mexicans love that shit. 

Yes, but your racist butcher also put some barbed wire in there.

[clothedmacuser]

Exactly. I run a Persian-Mexican food stall as a side business

Senior Saffron?

https://www.instagram.com/senorsaffron/


Artist Rendition: May not be accurate.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/wait-not-everyone-washes-and-dries-their-meat-before-seasoning.558760/post-83077504

Uh, Nexium, could you get this?  I smell colonization.

[benjipwns]

Poster: "I don't see how systemic racism is involved in explaining washing meat."
Nepenthe: "Assume the existence of white people."

[BisMarckie]

This thread could have finished after 6 posts and it would have been fine. An incredulous query with non-snarky replies explaining why and some links to evidence.

Instead it carried on into this shitshow. Still, a good point to be made on cultural reasons. Unfortunately, it was a point made by Nepenthe.

[mormapope]

The meat washing thread is triggering me. Being black and American doesn't exempt you from doing something that's unfounded and fucking dumb.

[benjipwns]

We used to have big fights about whether or not you can feed it to your pets.
I always sided on the "a dog can tell if it's rotten" side but it's just me trying to bullshit over the fact that I think it's a great injustice if dogs (and can't) can't have a little human food, as a treat.

Dogs having an incredible sense of smell and animals in general having good instinctual knowledge about what's edible is not remotely as stupid of a theory as "Black people wash meat because of slavery" is.

[clothedmacuser]

It's pretty simple. If your folks have historically been given the filthiest scraps from the people who shackled them as slaves, and from abolition on have been subject to both deliberate mishandling of meat from assholes, as well as general access to lower quality meats in the local area due to inequalities related to things like food distribution and Jim Crow laws, and we get on further down the line regarding the issues with food desserts and things, guess what you might start doing to your meat to try and cut down on illness.

Probably cook it.


Turning that crank up to 11. 

Let's be real.  Nepenthe isn't cooking anything.  The thread starter adds oregano to his bagel bites and uses the toaster oven to be a "cook." 

Ore-Ida and Unilever have more word in whatever cooking those two are doing. 

[benjipwns]

Drexel researcher Jennifer Quinlan conducted the study, which was funded by the U.S. Department of Agriculture, to find out whether you should wash raw chicken before cooking it for dinner.

The results were surprising.

Quinlan found that it's actually a bad idea to wash chicken before cooking it. The reason? Washing the poultry in water spreads germs throughout the kitchen, onto countertops, other food, towels, and you. The water splashes the chicken germs everywhere, which can lead to illnesses.

Drexel researchers found it's best to take the chicken straight from package to pan, since the heat required for cooking will kill all present bacteria.

This research changed the way a lot of people have undertaken an everyday task for years. Roughly 90 percent of people say they wash their chicken before cooking it, as recipes have historically called for chicken washing. In addition, it's thought the practice started because people wanted to rinse the slime off of just-opened chicken pieces.

In a public service campaign to end chicken washing for good, Quinlan explains why it doesn't pay. "It does not get rid of the bacteria, it doesn't kill the bacteria," Quinlan says. "However, there is a chance that it will spray that bacteria."

Ah, yes, because of slavery.

[Propagandhim]

Australians have historically been eating metal filings on their meat for hundreds of years, so I'm actually on Nepenthe's side now.

[Lonewulfeus]

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1499525322345259012

https://mobile.twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1499526178201378818

Fuck, this is getting bad for the average citizen over there. This shit shouldn't be happening. Fuck Putin.

This beauty of a post was a reply not to the horrific war crimes being inflicted upon Ukrainians, but to tweets saying the App Store, Google Play store, and Twitter can no longer be accessed from Russia…

 

[benjipwns]

The thread about GOG blocking Russia and Belarus from purchasing things on their store had a bunch of posts about how unfair it was to Russian citizens who haven't done anything. CDPR should have been blocking the OLIGARCHS or donating more than they already have to charities!

[benjipwns]

I may be too optimistic but I feel like it's almost over.

If I understand properly, they (The invaders) are almost out of ammunitions to hold the territories they stole.

But I also know very little about war so I could be very wrong.

[benjipwns]

Where is that ridiculous palace of his located? Also, doesn't ha have a daughter? Was she on the sanction list?

The palace of Putin is here (Google Maps)
Not far away from Ukraine.

No clue about daughters.

Did a quick Google and he apparently has at least two kids who he doesn't acknowledge. What a guy.

No, he has two daughters and it's not a secret. But I'm sure they're fine with not being famous, because, you know, they are prime targets.
Both are in somewhat important positions, one leads an AI institute and the other a gene editing program.

Google does me wrong again. Thanks.

                      "posting unverified information in a sensitive thread"?
 

[FUME5]

I have it on good authority that Royalan washes his meat in his bathtub as he is too fat to fit in it.

[HaughtyFrank]

You gotta love the pragmatism in shitting all over disenfranchised communities because they have a rightful distrust of this world's institutions.

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a rightful distrust of this world's institutions

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It's the same as when they were defending black antivaxxers, though this might be even more absurd. Everyone buys the same fucking shit in the super market.

[benjipwns]

It's the same as when they were defending black antivaxxers, though this might be even more absurd. Everyone buys the same fucking shit in the super market.

It's more absurd because the government actually has tested things on Black people in the past. This is just a conspiracy theory Nepenthe made up about it being a Black cultural thing with actual reasoning behind it.