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benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14640 on: March 09, 2022, 01:56:51 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/black-panther-director-ryan-coogler-was-falsely-detained-by-atlanta-police-he-was-mistaken-for-a-bank-robber.560584/

I mean I knew how the thread would go, but I don’t know maybe the director was dumb? I’m not sure how self aware you have to be to realize that taking out money in a suspicious way would arose suspicion from a bank teller just doing their job.

But no the black bank teller is a racist idiot.
Any withdrawals in cash over $10K (actually $9999.99, but don't make multiple withdrawals of that amount as it's proof you're trying to circumvent the law) require special steps due to federal laws against terrorism, and the teller read an intent into his note, ResetERA.com has it all figured out though:
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I'm sure if the person was white, the police would have probably just politely ask him for his IDs first, then discuss with them what the confusion was, apologize, and let them on their way without any cuffs or detention coming out.
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I like how the teller instead of just checking his account (which I'm assuming she could do) and seeing he had the money for the withdrawal just assumed it was a robbery
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Most banks have signs saying to take off hats and sunglasses.

Maybe he has transition lenses. Maybe he forgot he had them on. Maybe the bank teller could have asked him to remove hat and glasses to confirm ID.

Maybe the bank teller jumped to a racist conclusion and none of these things have been a problem for their white clientele.
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Bank teller fucked up, and I hope he sues for discrimination.
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They're putting it on the teller so that they can say it totally wasn't racism guys, look at our black employee.
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You know what, It prob was management, because I dont understand how the black employee wouldve jumped to that conclusion.
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What the actual fuck?

Imagine you directed one of the most successful Black films of all time and the pigs STILL arrest you because you "fit the description" aka you Black?

Another reminder that white supremacy doesn't care how famous you are.
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Glad they didn't shoot him, 2 random civilians and the pregnant teller while sorting it all out. Cause I know they wanted to.
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Basically. Seems like the cops went in there expecting (or HOPING FOR) some action, logic be damned.
Even though the article notes the cops responding split up, one went to talk to Coogler's people waiting in the car, the other went inside and simply detained him until the other came in and explained. Imagine if ResetERA.com's forum cops operated that well.


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14642 on: March 09, 2022, 01:59:51 PM »
seems like era posters went in there expecting (or HOPING FOR) someone doing a racism, logic be damned.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14643 on: March 09, 2022, 02:02:21 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/lithuania-cancelled-its-vaccine-donation-to-bangladesh-for-abstaining-from-un-vote-on-russia.560611/

a lot of :confused bans ITT, most puzzlingly;
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14644 on: March 09, 2022, 02:07:16 PM »
If Bangladesh was being invaded the world would not give two flying fucks about what they need to maintain sovereignty.

No, if China invaded Bangladesh nobody would even notice  :brain

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14645 on: March 09, 2022, 02:10:06 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/lithuania-cancelled-its-vaccine-donation-to-bangladesh-for-abstaining-from-un-vote-on-russia.560611/
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User Banned (Duration Pending): Justifying denial of humanitarian aid, a severe lack of empathy, previous severe bans for callous dismissals of concerns of racism and inflammatory commentary

Maybe we should stay silent in this matter and abstain from saying anything, like their decision regarding Ukraine and Russia. Surely nothing bad happens when you don't pick a side by not saying anything.


It sucks for their citizens but their government fucked up immensely here and should deal with the consequences of their choice of a lack of action.

A choice of abstain is the same as doing nothing and putting fingers in your ears and saying I can't hear you blah blah blah.
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a bunch of mfers finna expose they true white supremacist selves. Bangladesh vote wasn't a material difference. Either COVID and the pandemic is a global humanitarian issue or its not. If you think this is justified, then you just saying political subservience is more important than saving lives and combating the pandemic.
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Lithuania might not be happy with countries that don't care about Russia invading neighbors, you know, as a country that Russia threatened to invade as recently as this year.
"Political subservience is more important than saving lives."
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If Bangladesh was being invaded the world would not give two flying fucks about what they need to maintain sovereignty.
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A lot of folks in here making some very ugly statements. I don’t think they’re racially motivated, but certainly driving by ignorance.

It’s okay to stop and process news before you type out some word salad with your initial reaction. Then you can avoid saying brown people are less deserving of a life saving vaccine just because their government didn’t do what you wanted them to do.

If it was Bangladesh (or any other predominantly brown nation) getting invaded, the rest of the world wouldn’t bat an eye or try to aid them. So, use a little perspective and thought on this one, folks.
                          "both siding an invasion"
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« Reply #14646 on: March 09, 2022, 02:17:33 PM »
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If people want to avoid Disney that's fine as a personal choice of course, as long as we don't pretend it actually has an impact. And if you want to convince diehard fans to cancel their D+ subs, "their stuff sucks" is not exactly a compelling argument lol.
I mean you can keep pumping money into the company in which we know the bottom line does not care about LGBT.
I'm bisexual, you don't have to lecture me on this reality. I'm aware rich people don't care about us.
Look, same. I'm just saying people shouldn't be hardcore Disney fans especially when issues like this rise up.

Use them like they use you... as a transaction. Stop being fans of a company that is empty.
That’s fair. I apologize if I came off aggro, I’m obviously upset by this and I just think we need to reframe the conversation a bit is all.
Ayy I get it if you're into Disney. Their films are entertaining at the least. I can also be a bit harsh when it comes to things like this since it's basically a film company. We all need to take our mind off things time to time.
I’m not really into “Disney,” per se, I mean I like a lot of things they own but that’s by the nature of them being a multimedia conglomerate. It’s more my thesis is just that I think it’s a dead end to bang drums about individual responsibility to not pay for D+ subscriptions.

Also only semi-related but given that this is ultimately over land in Florida, it’s a similar story to how Disneyland has screwed over Anaheim time and time again. It’s never enough for these corporations, by design capitalism facilities infinite growth.

Honestly, the best way to stop this would probably be Disney employees going on strike.

yeah, the best way to stop this would be to let go of a bunch of higher earning long term employees, and then rehire a bunch of cheaper employees, rather than the people enabling them doing this by paying them money on a subscription basis take any form of stand whatsoever, comrade.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14647 on: March 09, 2022, 02:29:06 PM »
If Bangladesh was being invaded the world would not give two flying fucks about what they need to maintain sovereignty.

No, if China invaded Bangladesh nobody would even notice  :brain

Bangladesh? I hardly even knew Ladesh!
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14648 on: March 09, 2022, 02:29:09 PM »
Cautiously optimistic.

I have mentioned this before though that I'm not entirely on board with diverse Imperials. Gideon, Sloane, and now this Inquisitor, I really would prefer if the Space Nazis were just all white. And that's despite how amazing Giancarlo was as Moff Gideon.

The woke way to complain that Star Wars is too diverse  :lol

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14649 on: March 09, 2022, 02:31:24 PM »
Disney donating to Florida politicians isn't about "land" in Florida, it's about political power. This is how Disney gets itself exempted from legislation in Florida all the time. Yet another reason we need communism so state-protected corporations can't abuse their position!

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14650 on: March 09, 2022, 03:07:26 PM »
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Ridiculous, short-sighted, foolhardy. Really all that can be said about this. Inflation was running close to double digits BEFORE the invasion. Between this and the massive increase in other commodities (in particular wheat, of which Ukraine is a huge exporter) the price increases in basically everything are going through the roof.

I feel there is a complete lack of reality with this decision, how exactly do they expect to replace the lost supply?
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Should we continue buying oil from them instead? Is that the better alternative? We should keep funding their invasion?
There needs to be some realism. Like it or not the world is dependent on oil, almost literally everything requires it in some form. You cannot just remove one of the biggest suppliers like this and not expect things to break horribly. Russia isn't going to stop the invasion based on this, all this does is plunge the globe into recession even faster than we were currently heading there.

Note - To be clear am strongly in favour of sanctions on Russia, and I'd be in favour of this decision also if it had been properly handled and supply had been sourced to blunt the impact (for instance if the Iran deal had been struck and fresh supply would be flowing from there). But doing it this quickly, with no plan, and with the justification that it's "the price for freedom" (which one US senator actually said) is folly and insulting to all those in the lower and middle classes who are getting fucked by inflationary pressures with no end whatsoever in sight.
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Feeling an alternate account here.
Nope, sole account.

Not surprised to get quoted a good deal for this post, so just to add - am non-American (European), would support Biden/dems if I were US (but firmly believe this decision is a mistake), STRONGLY support the sanctions to date on Russia. I also don't drive, so definitely not "whining about gas prices" but I am calling out that this absolutely is going to (exacerabate) a huge problem globally and there were other ways to go about this (as I said, sourcing alternative supply BEFORE making this move).
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Meanwhile, nothing happens to the tons of posts quoting him and accusing him of wanting Ukrainian bodies/blood/etc. for questioning a symbolic action.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14651 on: March 09, 2022, 03:12:35 PM »


Oh yeah, a nation with less than 1/3 the population of NJ is totally punishing a country with half the population of the US with some paltry amount of vaccine distribution.    Bangladesh wants to play both sides - they want to maintain favorable relations with Russia, who helps develop their nuclear facilities, and get vaccines from Lithuania, without caring about their serious security concerns.  Lithuania ate major shit in the past from Russia.  Why would Bangladesh think that they are the only country immune to consequences in real politik decision making?  Do they think they're the main character of the world?   

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14652 on: March 09, 2022, 03:27:12 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/lithuania-cancelled-its-vaccine-donation-to-bangladesh-for-abstaining-from-un-vote-on-russia.560611/
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Maybe we should stay silent in this matter and abstain from saying anything, like their decision regarding Ukraine and Russia. Surely nothing bad happens when you don't pick a side by not saying anything.


It sucks for their citizens but their government fucked up immensely here and should deal with the consequences of their choice of a lack of action.

A choice of abstain is the same as doing nothing and putting fingers in your ears and saying I can't hear you blah blah blah.
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a bunch of mfers finna expose they true white supremacist selves. Bangladesh vote wasn't a material difference. Either COVID and the pandemic is a global humanitarian issue or its not. If you think this is justified, then you just saying political subservience is more important than saving lives and combating the pandemic.
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Lithuania might not be happy with countries that don't care about Russia invading neighbors, you know, as a country that Russia threatened to invade as recently as this year.
"Political subservience is more important than saving lives."
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If Bangladesh was being invaded the world would not give two flying fucks about what they need to maintain sovereignty.
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A lot of folks in here making some very ugly statements. I don’t think they’re racially motivated, but certainly driving by ignorance.

It’s okay to stop and process news before you type out some word salad with your initial reaction. Then you can avoid saying brown people are less deserving of a life saving vaccine just because their government didn’t do what you wanted them to do.

If it was Bangladesh (or any other predominantly brown nation) getting invaded, the rest of the world wouldn’t bat an eye or try to aid them. So, use a little perspective and thought on this one, folks.
                          "both siding an invasion"
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Imagine what Neopetenthe would say if she knew how racist people from Bangladesh are against Africans?
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14654 on: March 09, 2022, 03:35:35 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnbc-64-of-americans-are-now-living-paycheck-to-paycheck.560326/page-3#post-83339347

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Oh I’m for sure in the red. It’s just a matter of by how much on a month to month basis. Two years of the world completely stopping and then essentially starting over, from scratch, with nothing but bills to greet me every step of the way. I’m not afraid, I’m just numb. Fuck starting a family, fuck planning for the future, I’m just trying to survive and my only goal at the moment is to not be a noose around my family’s neck. Yes life can be a sick, cruel joke sometimes, only it’s not particularly funny anymore and there’s no point or use in crying.

People want to know, hey, how’s the dating and love life going? Love life? Get the fuck out of here, I’m more concerned about the fact that I had to forgo a loaf of bread last night to make homemade hamburgers because the fucking bread was $10.99. You think I want to deal with ANOTHER crazy bitch that just eats free dinners I take her to, talks about herself and her problems incessantly, then turns on me 6 months down the line one she realizes I’m messy and don’t give a fuck about folding my little socks and undies neatly in the drawer? Im done, dude. Xnxx and fucking spankbang for life, filter by length and choose only the 20+ minute clips, then ultimately fast forward to the cumshot within a minute 30 anyways and bust a fat nut knowing I didn’t pay shit.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14655 on: March 09, 2022, 03:38:33 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnbc-64-of-americans-are-now-living-paycheck-to-paycheck.560326/page-3#post-83339347

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Oh I’m for sure in the red. It’s just a matter of by how much on a month to month basis. Two years of the world completely stopping and then essentially starting over, from scratch, with nothing but bills to greet me every step of the way. I’m not afraid, I’m just numb. Fuck starting a family, fuck planning for the future, I’m just trying to survive and my only goal at the moment is to not be a noose around my family’s neck. Yes life can be a sick, cruel joke sometimes, only it’s not particularly funny anymore and there’s no point or use in crying.

People want to know, hey, how’s the dating and love life going? Love life? Get the fuck out of here, I’m more concerned about the fact that I had to forgo a loaf of bread last night to make homemade hamburgers because the fucking bread was $10.99. You think I want to deal with ANOTHER crazy bitch that just eats free dinners I take her to, talks about herself and her problems incessantly, then turns on me 6 months down the line one she realizes I’m messy and don’t give a fuck about folding my little socks and undies neatly in the drawer? Im done, dude. Xnxx and fucking spankbang for life, filter by length and choose only the 20+ minute clips, then ultimately fast forward to the cumshot within a minute 30 anyways and bust a fat nut knowing I didn’t pay shit.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14656 on: March 09, 2022, 03:40:19 PM »
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Oh yeah, a nation with less than 1/3 the population of NJ is totally punishing a country with half the population of the US with some paltry amount of vaccine distribution.    Bangladesh wants to play both sides - they want to maintain favorable relations with Russia, who helps develop their nuclear facilities, and get vaccines from Lithuania, without caring about their serious security concerns.  Lithuania ate major shit in the past from Russia.  Why would Bangladesh think that they are the only country immune to consequences in real politik decision making?  Do they think they're the main character of the world?
The rest of the world does not understand that hatred for Soviet/Russian imperialism in the east is primal.
Many Poles, Ukrainians, Lithuanians, Georgians, Belarussians Chechens etc. see this as a tragedy yes, but also an opportunity to kill some Russians.
By some estimates the number of foreign fighters is nearing 40k.

When Zelensky says things like cleansing the land of the enemy, his brothers in the east know exactly what he is talking about.
This is much like when the US got bogged down in the Iraqi civil war and was attacked from all sides.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14657 on: March 09, 2022, 03:42:33 PM »
Fat jokes aren't really my area but I suddenly really, really get it.

I still don't get it. Is he actually fat or is it just a generic insult or inside joke or something?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14658 on: March 09, 2022, 03:42:49 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnbc-64-of-americans-are-now-living-paycheck-to-paycheck.560326/page-3#post-83339347

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Oh I’m for sure in the red. It’s just a matter of by how much on a month to month basis. Two years of the world completely stopping and then essentially starting over, from scratch, with nothing but bills to greet me every step of the way. I’m not afraid, I’m just numb. Fuck starting a family, fuck planning for the future, I’m just trying to survive and my only goal at the moment is to not be a noose around my family’s neck. Yes life can be a sick, cruel joke sometimes, only it’s not particularly funny anymore and there’s no point or use in crying.

People want to know, hey, how’s the dating and love life going? Love life? Get the fuck out of here, I’m more concerned about the fact that I had to forgo a loaf of bread last night to make homemade hamburgers because the fucking bread was $10.99. You think I want to deal with ANOTHER crazy bitch that just eats free dinners I take her to, talks about herself and her problems incessantly, then turns on me 6 months down the line one she realizes I’m messy and don’t give a fuck about folding my little socks and undies neatly in the drawer? Im done, dude. Xnxx and fucking spankbang for life, filter by length and choose only the 20+ minute clips, then ultimately fast forward to the cumshot within a minute 30 anyways and bust a fat nut knowing I didn’t pay shit.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14659 on: March 09, 2022, 03:45:13 PM »
Fat jokes aren't really my area but I suddenly really, really get it.

I still don't get it. Is he actually fat or is it just a generic insult or inside joke or something?
Doesn't matter. Just go with it. Join the online mob.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14660 on: March 09, 2022, 03:47:52 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/cnbc-64-of-americans-are-now-living-paycheck-to-paycheck.560326/page-3#post-83339347

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Oh I’m for sure in the red. It’s just a matter of by how much on a month to month basis. Two years of the world completely stopping and then essentially starting over, from scratch, with nothing but bills to greet me every step of the way. I’m not afraid, I’m just numb. Fuck starting a family, fuck planning for the future, I’m just trying to survive and my only goal at the moment is to not be a noose around my family’s neck. Yes life can be a sick, cruel joke sometimes, only it’s not particularly funny anymore and there’s no point or use in crying.

People want to know, hey, how’s the dating and love life going? Love life? Get the fuck out of here, I’m more concerned about the fact that I had to forgo a loaf of bread last night to make homemade hamburgers because the fucking bread was $10.99. You think I want to deal with ANOTHER crazy bitch that just eats free dinners I take her to, talks about herself and her problems incessantly, then turns on me 6 months down the line one she realizes I’m messy and don’t give a fuck about folding my little socks and undies neatly in the drawer? Im done, dude. Xnxx and fucking spankbang for life, filter by length and choose only the 20+ minute clips, then ultimately fast forward to the cumshot within a minute 30 anyways and bust a fat nut knowing I didn’t pay shit.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14661 on: March 09, 2022, 04:09:05 PM »
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Oh yeah, a nation with less than 1/3 the population of NJ is totally punishing a country with half the population of the US with some paltry amount of vaccine distribution.    Bangladesh wants to play both sides - they want to maintain favorable relations with Russia, who helps develop their nuclear facilities, and get vaccines from Lithuania, without caring about their serious security concerns.  Lithuania ate major shit in the past from Russia.  Why would Bangladesh think that they are the only country immune to consequences in real politik decision making?  Do they think they're the main character of the world?   
Bangladesh abstained from voting for a condemnation of Russia's actions but did vote for a statement declaring the independence of Ukraine, Bangladesh says they didn't vote for the former because it was meaningless rather than doing anything to stop the invasion while the latter was a recognition of international law. I think Lithuania probably should send the vaccines anyway and find another symbolic action but as you said it's a drop in the bucket considering the population of Bangladesh and it seems there's already pressure for other countries to fill the tiny gap.

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« Reply #14662 on: March 09, 2022, 04:10:36 PM »
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This is an inevitable outcome for a shallow performer like Lipa who is little more than a typical over-produced, manufactured pop hack who either doesn’t have the ability or can’t be bothered to write much if any of her own music, eventually the producers just start to reflect the superficiality and laziness of the artist they work for and fish around too much. And the fact she is apparently going to great lengths to come claim it as her own makes her look like trash, not to mention this is at least the second time plagiarism claims have been leveled against her.

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« Reply #14663 on: March 09, 2022, 04:54:26 PM »

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Basically. Seems like the cops went in there expecting (or HOPING FOR) some action, logic be damned.


The cops or the people clicking on that thread?
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14664 on: March 09, 2022, 05:15:46 PM »




  :social can we not

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« Reply #14665 on: March 09, 2022, 05:28:24 PM »
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14666 on: March 09, 2022, 05:46:32 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/lithuania-cancelled-its-vaccine-donation-to-bangladesh-for-abstaining-from-un-vote-on-russia.560611/

a lot of :confused bans ITT, most puzzlingly;
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a severe lack of empathy
is apparently now a banworthy reason, which is good to know before the next gravedancing thread

https://www.resetera.com/threads/africans-are-being-blocked-from-fleeing-ukraine.557212/page-8#post-83168908

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Fuck these cracka ass countries. You can't pay me enough to care for what is going on in Ukraine.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14667 on: March 09, 2022, 06:22:22 PM »
what have yts ever done to deserve empathy ???

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« Reply #14668 on: March 09, 2022, 06:33:39 PM »
Fat jokes aren't really my area but I suddenly really, really get it.

I still don't get it. Is he actually fat or is it just a generic insult or inside joke or something?

Pretty simple, if the era mods can create their own little reality where I am somehow a transphobic bigot or whatever, then I can create a reality where royalan is a fat.

Since it's been years since he used his real picture as his pfp, and he happily went back to being a moderator on resetera after getting thrown under the bus for the asexuals, it's more than likely he is a miserable, fat old gay man now.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14669 on: March 09, 2022, 07:12:15 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/lithuania-cancelled-its-vaccine-donation-to-bangladesh-for-abstaining-from-un-vote-on-russia.560611/

a lot of :confused bans ITT, most puzzlingly;
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a severe lack of empathy
is apparently now a banworthy reason, which is good to know before the next gravedancing thread

https://www.resetera.com/threads/africans-are-being-blocked-from-fleeing-ukraine.557212/page-8#post-83168908

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Fuck these cracka ass countries. You can't pay me enough to care for what is going on in Ukraine.

 :thinking

Mammoth Jones has a lot of greats in that thread but this explains a lot of his world view.

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Yep. It’s the primary reason I’m not big on traveling. Paying money to experience other cultures just to be treated like dogshit? Fuck that. I’ll bank most of my money for my daughter and buy some tech on the side. This way I can look at the racist fuck shit abroad in 4K and just close the browser when I had enough for the day…

Why travel when I can just buy a larger TV?  Other cultures?  They don't even play real football in those places.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14670 on: March 09, 2022, 07:14:39 PM »
Another comrade down:
User banned (permanent): Downplaying the genocide of Kosovo Albanians in Serbia, a long history of inflammatory commentary

My ban is over but I feel no compulsion to post here anymore, if anything I just feel done with this place. The neoliberals have won and their message runs rampant all over the place. To somehow try and point out the underlying reasons for things happen in a dialectical analysis of the world situation just gets you branded as a "Russian shill" or Putin supporter. There has been a massive fucking campaign of painting all leftists here as supporters of Russia because "We hate the US. imperialism and therefore must love the Russian imperialism" which is some of the fucking dumbest takes I have seen in a while.

Back 2 weeks ago I too made the assumption that the most likely scenario was that Putin wouldn't authorize an attack, cause the deck would be stacked against the Russian military and the assumption was that, maybe, he would think rationally about things. Turns out he didn't. I will eat that crow. I still stand though by analysis of that day still cause what we are seeing now is the Russian invasion grinding to a halt exactly because of the reasons I then pointed out: the world would turn against Russia and the Ukrainian people would take arms against an invader (polls telling 63% of the Ukrainian people ready to defend their country, give or take a chunk of that of anyone saying things and then still fleeing and you still got a hell of a civilian guerilla to deal with).

I will still curse this "defensive" alliance of NATO that is a major cause of Putins rise to power and Russias alienation from the rest of the world. I found this quote from a 1998 interview to be quite telling of what the fuck went wrong with NATO still expanding when it's primary enemy, the Soviet Union, had fallen.
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On May 2, 1998, immediately after the Senate ratified NATO expansion, I called George Kennan, the architect of America's successful containment of the Soviet Union. Having joined the State Department in 1926 and served as U.S. ambassador to Moscow in 1952, Kennan was arguably America's greatest expert on Russia. Though 94 at the time and frail of voice, he was sharp of mind when I asked for his opinion of NATO expansion. I am going to share Kennan's whole answer:

"I think it is the beginning of a new cold war. I think the Russians will gradually react quite adversely and it will affect their policies. I think it is a tragic mistake. There was no reason for this whatsoever. No one was threatening anybody else. This expansion would make the founding fathers of this country turn over in their graves. "We have signed up to protect a whole series of countries, even though we have neither the resources nor the intention to do so in any serious way. [NATO expansion] was simply a lighthearted action by a Senate that has no real interest in foreign affairs. What bothers me is how superficial and ill informed the whole Senate debate was. I was particularly bothered by the references to Russia as a country dying to attack Western Europe.

"Don't people understand? Our differences in the Cold War were with the Soviet Communist regime. And now we are turning our backs on the very people who mounted the greatest bloodless revolution in history to remove that Soviet regime. And Russia's democracy is as far advanced, if not farther, as any of these countries we've just signed up to defend from Russia. Of course there is going to be a bad reaction from Russia, and then [the NATO expanders] will say that we always told you that is how the Russians are — but this is just wrong."

It's EXACTLY what has happened.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/21/opinion/putin-ukraine-nato.html

And now my country of Sweden is considering to join this bullshit. It's a clusterfuck of stupidity and fuck Putin, that stupid, demented piece of autocratic shit, for driving people into the arms of another imperialist power. For NATO doesn't exist as just a sole "defensive alliance" where we might be called upon to rush off to defend another member, it is a military pressure that America suddenly can put on it's members. America remains the main controller of the alliance and can enforce rules and regulations onto it's members, how much to spend, what to buy, where to go etc. etc. etc. During the war of Serbia NATO participated, for some reason, as an aggressor and conducted a massive bombing campaign. There was no member state there, there was no defensive strategy being involved. Suddenly NATO members had to participate in a war that costs thousands upon thousands of civilian lives. Same with Libya. NATO suddenly dragged into a war as the aggressor, not defensively, to remove Gaddafi. I don't want people to be part of that.

I am gonna post the statement of my fellow Russian comrades of the IMT, and then take a fucking break from this place.
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The following is a statement by Russian comrades of the International Marxist Tendency, denouncing the invasion of Ukraine that began in the early hours of today. Against military intervention! Against chauvinism! No war between the peoples, no peace between the classes! Read the original in Russian here. Also, this statement should be read in conjunction with the previous one by our Russian comrades, and the latest analysis by marxist.com editor Alan Woods.

In the early morning of 24 February, the Russian army launched a military operation against Ukraine, inflicting airstrikes on military units, air defence systems and ammunition depots. In a video message to the nation, Russian President Vladimir Putin justified the operation by citing an appeal from the people's republics of the Donbas requesting military protection. He said that the objective of the operation is not the occupation of Ukraine, but its demilitarisation and denazification. He called on the servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to lay down their arms and not obey the "anti-people junta that is robbing the people."

In our previous articles, we, the International Marxist Tendency (IMT), assessed the likelihood of a direct military clash between Russia and Ukraine as extremely small. This was due to the fact that our analysis focused on the interests of Russian imperialism, its capabilities and past behaviour. A full-scale war in Ukraine was then seen as an extremely dangerous adventure for the Putin regime with an uncertain outcome, which would be accompanied by enormous costs for Russia. The situation, however, consistently developed from bad to worse, and eventually spiralled towards this catastrophic scenario. Putin chose the adventure, apparently counting on the Ukrainian state to crumble under his first blows, after which it would only be necessary to carry out a blitzkrieg and put a new loyal government in power. As with the recognition of the people's republics, one cannot speak of a "last-minute decision based on the circumstances", because the video message about the start of the operation, as it turned out, was recorded on 21 February.

A significant part of Russian society and the Russian left justified both the recognition of the republics and the entry of Russian troops into the territory of Ukraine by saying that this would stop the shelling of the Donbas and end the eight-year-long hell of bombing for millions of people. This contained a certain amount of truth, although in our previous statement we stressed the negative consequences of the recognition of independence, condemning both recognition and intervention. But now that the missiles have flown into Ukraine, it will not be possible to talk about bringing in troops for the sake of "ending the war".

It is hard to find anything more hypocritical than the statements issued by Putin and other Russian officials about 'denazification'. Contrary to their rhetorical appeal to the memory of the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945, and the sacrifices of the Soviet people in the fight against Nazism, the historical model of the Putin regime is not the Soviet Union. Rather, Putin's model is the Russian Empire, as he has directly and repeatedly explained. His long speech on 21 February regarding the introduction of troops into the LPR (Luhansk People's Republic) and DPR (Donetsk People's Republic) was emphatically anti-communist. It was based on the stance of Russian chauvinism, and not Soviet internationalism. In Russia, Nazi collaborators are also regularly honoured, although by no means on the same scale as in Ukraine. The White movement is glorified and communists are persecuted, including functionaries of the Communist Party. The communist parties in the people's republics of Donbas still operate illegally. The policy of the Russian authorities is one of national chauvinism, anti-communism, anti-democracy and the robbery of the workers. Under such conditions, only extremely naive people can perceive Russia as an 'anti-fascist' force.

Even if Putin's blitzkrieg succeeds and the existing government of Ukraine is dispersed, whatever it is replaced with by force of Russian bayonets will be just as reactionary, only with a different colouration. It cannot be otherwise. We only need to consider the forces that the Russian regime has nurtured in Donbas for the past eight years; how it has killed objectionable field commanders; and the motivations that have guided Ukrainian politicians in the same period. Given the curtailment of bourgeois democracy in Russia itself, one cannot expect that Putin will contribute to its construction in Ukraine. We will not see 'denazification', but 'nazification' under another flag.

War is the most difficult subject to analyse. Of course, we cannot predict the outcome of a military operation. But despite the huge material and technological superiority of the Russian Army over the Armed Forces of Ukraine, there is a chance that the Ukrainian army and state will not simply be defeated within a couple of days. Under those circumstances, the most nightmarish scenario for the working people of Russia and Ukraine will come to life: a protracted, bloody slaughterhouse, in which the workers are the livestock. But regardless of the outcome of the war, Ukrainian and Russian chauvinism will rise to new heights and a deep wound will have been inflicted on the relations between Ukrainian and Russian working people that will last for many decades to come. Therefore, the struggle for the reconciliation of peoples, the fierce struggle against chauvinism of all stripes, is the duty and urgent task of communist internationalists today.

The most important task of honest Russian communists is to directly oppose Russia's military intervention. The sanctioning of this operation under the pretext of "protecting the Russian population", "fighting against Nazism", and so on is a direct betrayal of the principles of internationalism. The position of the leadership of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, which formally offered Putin their recognition of the people's republics of the Donbas, and then approved the introduction of troops and the military operation, has caused the greatest harm in this respect. It is noteworthy that this is happening at the very moment when members of the Communist Party itself, from Moscow to Vladivostok, are facing repression. We believe that consistent communists in the ranks of this party should strongly protest against the fact that the leadership has not only capitulated to Russian chauvinism, but is leading its procession. The time has come for all loyal communists to remember the lessons of the collapse of the Second International; to remember Lenin's struggle against the social chauvinists and the principles on which the Communist International was founded!

We call on all communists in Ukraine, Russia and Donbas to oppose the war. We urge the military personnel of the Russian Federation not to carry out criminal orders. We call for the fight against chauvinism of all stripes – for the international brotherhood of peoples.

AGAINST MILITARY INTERVENTION!

AGAINST RUSSIAN IMPERIALISM!

AGAINST CHAUVINISM OF ALL KINDS!

NO WAR BETWEEN PEOPLES! NO PEACE BETWEEN CLASSES!
https://www.marxist.com/no-to-war-with-ukraine-against-russian-military-intervention.htm

No war between peoples, no peace between classes indeed comrades.

Stay safe out there everyone and don't stop fighting for a world where we, the proletariat, and not the fucking political and economical elite finally control our lives and fates.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14671 on: March 09, 2022, 07:18:10 PM »
XboxEra founder down too:
User banned (permanent): Misrepresenting moderation. Hostility towards staff. Long history of similar behavior.

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I don't believe he has any source on this and is just guessing like many other people in this thread did. The fact that this guy somehow became an "insider" that has info all over the gaming industry is very hard to believe. He probably has a source sometimes but I think plenty of times he's just guessing but pretending that it's coming from a source.

I remember him saying that Remedy was working on a PS5 exclusive and that turned out to be not true because we know the four games Remedy has in development and their publishers, and none of them are Sony. But he said that because there was smoke around Sony and Remedy and it wasn't unreasonable to assume that. I think he's doing the same thing with Sly and Pixelopus, taking something that's floating around and sounds reasonable and presenting it as if it's coming from his source.
I’ve shown a few of the admins and mods here where my info comes from

ive also publicly posted my redacted DMs frequently on Twitter

Now, the admins here can feel free to not accept that as a form of “vetting” but it at minimum shows that I don’t guess anything. Could the people sending me this stuff be complete liars and full of shit? Yep, in some cases it could be totally possible.

But I don’t “guess” or make stuff up. As someone with an Xbox podcast, it seems kinda dumb to “make up” PlayStation rumours for my Xbox podcast when I could…you know, make up or guess Xbox ones?
Really? When was this? Who did you show it to because far as we're all aware you've never shown us anything regarding sources or information. Despite multiple opportunities and us reaching out many, many times.

Don't use site staff as a sheild, you've never shown us anything even approaching verification and have refused to do so at every turn. We aren't taking responsibility for your predictions. If you're wrong, that's on you and no one else.

Don’t lie dude.

Maybe if you actually replied to DMs or took the request to a conversation in Discord I’d be able to show you specifically anything you want.

Again, I already know you won’t accept redacted Discord messages, but feel free to join me in a Discord DM and I’ll show you dozens and dozens of them.

But you and I both know you have no intention of vetting anything and you and I also both know why.

So spare me the theatrics.

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Ha I knew Grubb was full of shit on this one. They weren't paying for the Marvel license and not using iconic characters.

Any particular reason you feel the need to be such an aggressive prick about it? Just curious. I’m just wondering how the accuracy of Grubb’s sources affects you in such a way that requires a response like this.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14672 on: March 09, 2022, 07:25:40 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/dunkin-donuts-manager-punches-customer-after-being-called-the-n-word-customer-dies-three-days-later.560695/


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Spare me your martyrdom. You're allowed to disagree. I'm also not sure how you being a POC directly addresses anything of what I said. Not all POC not all the same; certainly not all of us are Black, the people who have the most authoritative history with the n-word. Similarly I'm not going to go into a thread about the issues of immigration and judge how the sufferers of immigration-based bigotry react to their oppressors, because I'm not an immigrant. I don't know; sometimes I am fine just staying in my fucking lane.

But I digress back to my point: the attitude of flippancy towards racists who initiate their own demise is a response to the fact that there is no meaningful and consistent legal recourse for victims of racial violence in this country. Thus, complaining about the lack of sympathy comes across as concern trolling. It's like when everyone asks why we protest and riot in flashpoint cases like George Floyd; there's no other pressure valve to deal with the frustration that is being Black in a society whose bedrock is literally your misery and subjugation.

So if you want people to be less flippant towards the deaths of racists who initiate their own demise, I don't know, maybe work towards a society where Black people's only two options for dealing with it aren't being dehumanization or bodying their oppressor as is fully deserved. Maybe we should actually take a look at hate crime laws or something. That would be more helpful.

That's an interesting way of putting it.
 
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14673 on: March 09, 2022, 07:29:38 PM »
Another comrade down:
User banned (permanent): Downplaying the genocide of Kosovo Albanians in Serbia, a long history of inflammatory commentary

My ban is over but I feel no compulsion to post here anymore, if anything I just feel done with this place. The neoliberals have won and their message runs rampant all over the place. To somehow try and point out the underlying reasons for things happen in a dialectical analysis of the world situation just gets you branded as a "Russian shill" or Putin supporter.
https://www.marxist.com/no-to-war-with-ukraine-against-russian-military-intervention.htm

No war between peoples, no peace between classes indeed comrades.

Stay safe out there everyone and don't stop fighting for a world where we, the proletariat, and not the fucking political and economical elite finally control our lives and fates.

Dialectical analysis :neogaf

marxist.com :lol

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14674 on: March 09, 2022, 07:53:31 PM »

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It's like when everyone asks why we protest and riot in flashpoint cases like George Floyd; there's no other pressure valve to deal with the frustration that is being Black in a society whose bedrock is literally your misery and subjugation.




I'm not going to claim definite proof Nep Nep's watching this place, but it's interesting that she's been acting like she was marching through the streets taking it to YT,  when we know she was cowering under her duvet and freaking out about her car during the BLM rallies

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14675 on: March 09, 2022, 08:10:23 PM »
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But I digress back to my point: the attitude of flippancy towards racists who initiate their own demise is a response to the fact that there is no meaningful and consistent legal recourse for victims of racial violence in this country. ...
So if you want people to be less flippant towards the deaths of racists who initiate their own demise, I don't know, maybe work towards a society where Black people's only two options for dealing with it aren't being dehumanization or bodying their oppressor as is fully deserved. Maybe we should actually take a look at hate crime laws or something. That would be more helpful.
Being called the n-word is not "racial violence" and does not entitle you to commit actual violence against a person. That you cannot outlaw speech in the United States does not entitle you to commit actual violence against a person. That you justify violence by claiming the victim "initiate[d] their own demise" does not make you a defender of Black people's rights but instead makes you a petty bully who wants to impose their moral code on society through violence. That you have an unresolved fetish for race war makes you not a progressive or revolutionary but yet another racist reactionary.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14676 on: March 09, 2022, 08:11:37 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/dunkin-donuts-manager-punches-customer-after-being-called-the-n-word-customer-dies-three-days-later.560695/


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Spare me your martyrdom. You're allowed to disagree. I'm also not sure how you being a POC directly addresses anything of what I said. Not all POC not all the same; certainly not all of us are Black, the people who have the most authoritative history with the n-word. Similarly I'm not going to go into a thread about the issues of immigration and judge how the sufferers of immigration-based bigotry react to their oppressors, because I'm not an immigrant. I don't know; sometimes I am fine just staying in my fucking lane.

But I digress back to my point: the attitude of flippancy towards racists who initiate their own demise is a response to the fact that there is no meaningful and consistent legal recourse for victims of racial violence in this country. Thus, complaining about the lack of sympathy comes across as concern trolling. It's like when everyone asks why we protest and riot in flashpoint cases like George Floyd; there's no other pressure valve to deal with the frustration that is being Black in a society whose bedrock is literally your misery and subjugation.

So if you want people to be less flippant towards the deaths of racists who initiate their own demise, I don't know, maybe work towards a society where Black people's only two options for dealing with it aren't being dehumanization or bodying their oppressor as is fully deserved. Maybe we should actually take a look at hate crime laws or something. That would be more helpful.

That's an interesting way of putting it.

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Similarly I'm not going to go into a thread about the issues of immigration and judge how the sufferers of immigration-based bigotry react to their oppressors, because I'm not an immigrant. I

She seems to forget who she is sometimes.  Of course she would do that.


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But I digress back to my point: the attitude of flippancy towards racists who initiate their own demise is a response to the fact that there is no meaningful and consistent legal recourse for victims of racial violence in this country. ...
So if you want people to be less flippant towards the deaths of racists who initiate their own demise, I don't know, maybe work towards a society where Black people's only two options for dealing with it aren't being dehumanization or bodying their oppressor as is fully deserved. Maybe we should actually take a look at hate crime laws or something. That would be more helpful.
Being called the n-word is not "racial violence" and does not entitle you to commit actual violence against a person. That you cannot outlaw speech in the United States does not entitle you to commit actual violence against a person. That you justify violence by claiming the victim "initiate[d] their own demise" does not make you a defender of Black people's rights but instead makes you a petty bully who wants to impose their moral code on society through violence. That you have an unresolved fetish for race war makes you not a progressive or revolutionary but yet another racist reactionary.

Words are literally violence.  And sometimes literal violence is not actual violence.  It matters on who they vote for.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14677 on: March 09, 2022, 08:21:00 PM »
So did fatty ever follow through on his threat in the constructive criticism thread? I can't find the fucking thing.

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/dunkin-donuts-manager-punches-customer-after-being-called-the-n-word-customer-dies-three-days-later.560695/post-83393305

Messy knocks it out of the park with this one.
« Last Edit: March 09, 2022, 08:29:13 PM by FUME5 »

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14678 on: March 09, 2022, 08:32:49 PM »
If Bangladesh was being invaded the world would not give two flying fucks about what they need to maintain sovereignty.

No, if China invaded Bangladesh nobody would even notice  :brain

Yeah, nobody would notice the country with the 8th highest population getting invaded.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14679 on: March 09, 2022, 08:32:59 PM »
Fat jokes aren't really my area but I suddenly really, really get it.

I still don't get it. Is he actually fat or is it just a generic insult or inside joke or something?

Pretty simple, if the era mods can create their own little reality where I am somehow a transphobic bigot or whatever, then I can create a reality where royalan is a fat.

Since it's been years since he used his real picture as his pfp, and he happily went back to being a moderator on resetera after getting thrown under the bus for the asexuals, it's more than likely he is a miserable, fat old gay man now.

Sorry, I tried to read this but I couldn't see it past Royalans massive heaving body, much like how Royalan can't see his own cock

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14680 on: March 09, 2022, 08:47:55 PM »
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Honestly? I don't feel like homeboy should have to suffer any legal consequences. "Anger management course." Fuck outta here. Maybe whites should leave us alone.
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You say there's a lot of posturing but then invent your own fanfiction about how the manager feels to justify your own discomfort with people not caring that a racist died, while further going on to say that punching the man was the wrong thing to do. Please do tell us Blacks how to better deal with racism.
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The apology is noted. But I don't get where you're coming from. Weighing in on the consequences of a person's actions has nothing to do with dismissing, or not dismissing, the emotions of the people involved. I can say it's good that a racist died. That is a whole-ass different statement from however I may or may not feel about the person who put the racist in the ground, of which I have no opinion of btw. The article has no direct statement from the manager about his emotional state (asking Black people, especially Black people involved in legal disputes, how they feel just doesn't really happen) so why should I assume anything one way or another?

Ultimately, I don't know why every single time a Black person physically stands up to a white racist, we can't just be fine with the fact that the racist got what was coming to them. Suddenly it becomes a "conversation" about "condoning violence" (which to me is bullshit; people condone all sorts of violence all the time, they just balk when the violence flows in the "wrong" direction) or protracted arguments about where sympathies lie, which always blows my mind because I thought- and I could be wrong- I thought calling a Black person a distinguished black fellow and invoking both centuries of terrorism and present day power imbalances to dehumanize someone was, like, something that was completely unconscionable? Like, this isn't a situation that should warrant a conversation. Seems pretty open and shut, like, I don't know, blowing away someone who is breaking into your house. But here we are, yet again, "having a conversation."

Like man, just seems to me that people are REALLY bothered when whites suffer the consequence of their flagrant racism. Almost like it's a bug in the system, something that isn't supposed to happen.
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Ignorant shit would be calling the manager stupid, or incompetent at his job, or some other similar measure that related back to the fact that this pedophilic waste of carbon couldn't get his mediocre donuts in a timely manner.

What that dude actually did was enact racial violence. If people could stop downplaying what it means for whites to go around calling Black people distinguished black fellows, that would be fucking great. Hell, we might actually move the needle on racism a bit.

What would also be great is for people to stop conflating satisfaction with a racist finally getting their just desserts with mindless bloodlust. Because let's be honest. If you're an ethnic minority, you only have two options for recourse in America when some stupid cracker steps to you. You either let them dehumanize you, with the reward being empty platitudes from spineless liberals on the internet for being so "graceful" and "forgiving" and "upstanding," assuming your case even makes it onto the Internet at all, or you take it into your own hands and risk catching a case that the racist never would, because this society is not actually set up to legally handle the amount of racial violence it levels out to ethnic minorities on the daily, and those same liberals will talk about how you need anger management or you NEED to serve legal consequences for doing what society won't.

It's another phrase in the language of the unheard. The lack of sympathy for this man is a result of understanding that we live in a society that values whites' ability to be racist more than it values the humanity of Black people. Every time folks like you come in to chastise folks for not being bleeding hearts for racists, you uphold this status quo whether you fucking like it or not.

So that's also what I wish from people. That they would be more forthcoming and say that they're just uncomfortable seeing white people suffer consequences.
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Society already treats death with flippancy. People just only seem to really raise their voices with more concern on Era when those deaths are of white people. Like, 200 people just died in Rio a few weeks ago due to mudslides and I'm probably the only one in this thread who both knew about it and gave a shit enough to donate to relief. Until we actually achieve a society where my people's lives actually matter to society at large, then you better believe I will never give a fuck at people shrugging off the death of a racist who attacked one of my own.
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Sometimes? The bedrock of our current status quo is violence and violent coercion. You don't get to become a world superpower and maintain that standing by debating your political opponents on Twitch on why they need give up their land, culture, political structures, autonomy, and bodies. You don't attempt to defend yourself from such a situation through the pulpit either. This is what I mean by saying that people are perfectly fine with violence flowing downstream, but one guy swims upstream by punching his oppressor in the face and suddenly folks are coming out of the woodwork to try and prove how much of a pacifist they suddenly are.
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I can imagine some of y'all back in the day. "Yeah, I get the whole slavery thing, but... did they need to KILL their slave master when he was sleeping? He had no chance to defend himself, and I just can't get with attacking someone without justification. If they had waited until he was beating someone, I would understand better."
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You are going to have to ask other minorities about how they feel about the slurs created by whites and dedicated specifically to them. I'm Black, and this is a topic about the word n-word; specifically, it is yet another discussion of people doing their best to try and tell us why a word they won't usually type out all the way is equivalent to any other playground insult and thus never warrants a physical response, and how the Blacks should conduct themselves more nicely in the face of that level of racial violence.
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It is commonly that. Like we're supposed to care that their Nana Ruth gave them a slice of cake and a pat on the head before she went on down to the local lynching.
Violence is wrong, actually. Happy to help.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14681 on: March 09, 2022, 08:54:12 PM »
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i know it's probably gonna be an unpopular opinion here, but just... regardless how vile someone is, if they don't attack you, don't punch people, even if they don't fall, one punch can kill someone depending on how it lands

not only you risk killing someone, but you will also likely face charges for doing so cause it's not self-defense (yes, words hurt, but you wouldn't pull out a gun on someone for saying hurtful,racists shit right? Well you should do the same with punching, just don't do it, it's not worh it ruining your life for this)

i'm surprised they didn't throw the book at him, it's certainly an exception to the rule... i'm glad he got free though, when you have to deal with racist people all day, i understand why they would get fed up in the end and punch someone... but this kind of stuff never leads to anything good, so yeah, don't do it
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Some stupid takes in here, you can't physically attack someone whatever is said and however it is articulated. Exception may be you fear for your life. And the past of this men is totally irrelevant. But of course you can answer emotional, anecdotally and subjective. Here three years jail minimum.
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I actually didn't hear about the mudslides and will now probably go home tonight and look into an organization to donate to because that's horrible. I'm from South America and because of the way US news cycle works somehow I wasn't hipped to it in any of my feeds. Wonder why? I'm glad, out of this whole interaction, that I got that to be illuminated about that having happened and about the people who died. That's tragic. I genuinely appreciate you sharing that. I will end things here by saying I am not a conductor of how our society works but I can just push to affect change within my power (mostly locally) and actively examine how I conduct myself as dictated by my moral and ethical fulcrums.

"One of my own"

I get that. I truly do. I just don't see that way of thinking as helpful because as fucked up as this society is we still live in it. It isn't a mostly anonymous forum but the actual real world lot that we all are unfortunately trapped within. That's just for me and my path. Anyway... I'll actively think about all of this as this day wears on because you did write meaningful things and definitely made points important to consider.
I couldn't possibly roll my eyes harder.
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I couldn't have rolled my eyes harder when you in an open forum of discussion asked "You black?". Hey but you do you. I'm sure in the 13,000 posts/replies you have racked up since you joined you certainly had opinions and thoughts about exclusively and only black issues. Give me a break.
I'm just gonna say straight up that you're a self important, self righteous, know nothing dumbfuck.
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I couldn't have rolled my eyes harder when you in an open forum of discussion asked "You black?". Hey but you do you. I'm sure in the 13,000 posts/replies you have racked up since you joined you certainly had opinions and thoughts about exclusively and only black issues. Give me a break.
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Eloquent contributions.
take your non descriptive poc ass on somewhere dweeb

we get it you think you’re better than us
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Infinitely more valuable than your dumbfuckery.
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Jesus Christ, there is zero moral authority to stand on here and argue that Black people are reacting inappropriately to this.
Please, simply shut the fuck up.
Productive discussion.

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14682 on: March 09, 2022, 08:56:42 PM »
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I mean, you can’t remove the history of the world
though. We are talking about a person who, by the nature of being a white American, could have had family that owned slaves. People view the N word as just a generic bad word where when I get called it I know its about a white person putting me in place beneath them.

That said, its a moot point because I firmly believe that the odds he’s throwing that n word around and NOT leveraging racist powers in other ways, quite low. Not as if racists keep it to just the n word with no other fucked up oppression they can do in the system. (calling cops on black neighbors, sabatoging black co-workers/employees, using the slur on a child, etc).

Kinda hard to be a good person and at the same time run into a store screaming the n word at someone trying to help you. Humans are complex, but lol…no.
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This is a salient point. If a white is throwing around the n-word, he's not just stopping there. Hell, he's not just stopping at Black people. "Yeah, I can't stand the fucking Blacks, but Mexicans are a wonderful, culturally rich people." No, this shit doesn't happen.
Yes, if someone says the n-word they're probably an oppressor in other ways too and their ancestors likely held slaves (even though slaveholders were always a minority of the population, even in the South) making any violence against them completely justified and we should provide a clear loophole in the law that allows for it.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14683 on: March 09, 2022, 09:15:25 PM »
*****

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14684 on: March 09, 2022, 09:16:03 PM »
I'm afraid to ask Nepenthe for the list of acts a cracker can engage in that she considers murder to be a non-overreaction to.   

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14685 on: March 09, 2022, 09:23:07 PM »
Fat jokes aren't really my area but I suddenly really, really get it.

I still don't get it. Is he actually fat or is it just a generic insult or inside joke or something?

Pretty simple, if the era mods can create their own little reality where I am somehow a transphobic bigot or whatever, then I can create a reality where royalan is a fat.

Since it's been years since he used his real picture as his pfp, and he happily went back to being a moderator on resetera after getting thrown under the bus for the asexuals, it's more than likely he is a miserable, fat old gay man now.

Sorry, I tried to read this but I couldn't see it past Royalans massive heaving body, much like how Royalan can't see his own cock
All this talk of no-fly zones makes me wonder if we should enforce a no-fly zone around confirmed fatty Royalan's mouth. That should stop the deep fried treats from entering and causing WWIII and the trans holocaust
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14686 on: March 09, 2022, 09:24:27 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/dunkin-donuts-manager-punches-customer-after-being-called-the-n-word-customer-dies-three-days-later.560695/


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Spare me your martyrdom. You're allowed to disagree. I'm also not sure how you being a POC directly addresses anything of what I said. Not all POC not all the same; certainly not all of us are Black, the people who have the most authoritative history with the n-word. Similarly I'm not going to go into a thread about the issues of immigration and judge how the sufferers of immigration-based bigotry react to their oppressors, because I'm not an immigrant. I don't know; sometimes I am fine just staying in my fucking lane.

But I digress back to my point: the attitude of flippancy towards racists who initiate their own demise is a response to the fact that there is no meaningful and consistent legal recourse for victims of racial violence in this country. Thus, complaining about the lack of sympathy comes across as concern trolling. It's like when everyone asks why we protest and riot in flashpoint cases like George Floyd; there's no other pressure valve to deal with the frustration that is being Black in a society whose bedrock is literally your misery and subjugation.

So if you want people to be less flippant towards the deaths of racists who initiate their own demise, I don't know, maybe work towards a society where Black people's only two options for dealing with it aren't being dehumanization or bodying their oppressor as is fully deserved. Maybe we should actually take a look at hate crime laws or something. That would be more helpful.

That's an interesting way of putting it.

"initiated their own demise?"

that's real interesting, I wonder how many other things people can initiate

can you initiate your own rape? like by wearing skimpy clothes? like you're asking for it?
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14687 on: March 09, 2022, 09:27:10 PM »
Can Nepenthe initiate a credit default to get out of the 70-year indentured servitude she has to the Nissan corporation?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14688 on: March 09, 2022, 09:27:36 PM »
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I'm a POC
This acronym does not unify you with Black issues or give you the right to overstep your bounds.

We really need to stop it with "as a PoC myself.." as an excuse to talk down to Black people on the shit they live every day. No, you do not relate or have ANY idea what it is like to be hated by the entire world.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14689 on: March 09, 2022, 09:32:37 PM »
Can Nepenthe initiate a credit default to get out of the 70-year indentured servitude she has to the Nissan corporation?

Modery slavery if you ask me.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/dunkin-donuts-manager-punches-customer-after-being-called-the-n-word-customer-dies-three-days-later.560695/post-83414713

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"I can imagine some of y'all back in the day. "Yeah, I get the whole slavery thing, but... did they need to KILL their slave master when he was sleeping? He had no chance to defend himself, and I just can't get with attacking someone without justification. If they had waited until he was beating someone, I would understand better."
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14690 on: March 09, 2022, 09:32:51 PM »
How is it possible they continue to get even MORE vile

Propagandhim

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14691 on: March 09, 2022, 09:33:06 PM »
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I'm a POC
This acronym does not unify you with Black issues or give you the right to overstep your bounds.

We really need to stop it with "as a PoC myself.." as an excuse to talk down to Black people on the shit they live every day. No, you do not relate or have ANY idea what it is like to be hated by the entire world.
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FACT CHECK:  A lot of people on that forum know what it's like to be hated by the entire world.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14692 on: March 09, 2022, 09:47:23 PM »
I wonder what other rule carveouts they'll make alongside "advocating violence" for posters who claim to be Black.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14693 on: March 09, 2022, 09:50:21 PM »
Have they ever explained how they never saw any of this extremely obvious transphobic content in the Harry Potter books prior to JK Misandrist revealing herself as a literal trans murderer, but now they do?

theres no time in between making and sharing their hilarious memes
https://www.resetera.com/threads/lgbtqia-art-comics-and-memes-ot.548336/

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14695 on: March 09, 2022, 10:01:55 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/share-some-of-the-intrusive-thoughts-you-have.560845/

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"I could just jump off right now"


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benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14696 on: March 09, 2022, 10:05:21 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/share-some-of-the-intrusive-thoughts-you-have.560845/
So far half of them involve violence against other people including one person who thinks about slitting family members throats whenever he holds a knife.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14697 on: March 09, 2022, 10:08:02 PM »
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Knife in the hand and thinking "I could just stab myself in the fucking eye, or just slash the throat of a loved family member right now"

I did read that people with such intrusive thoughts are actually highly empathetic most of the time and obviously want exactly the opposite of such intrusive thoughts.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14698 on: March 09, 2022, 10:08:03 PM »
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Man, I could drop that baby on the floor and it would be dead"

You know, as you do sometimes.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14699 on: March 09, 2022, 10:10:49 PM »
"I wish I could just push someone into this warm inviting bonfire at the crossroads of the industry"
Wait is that reeeee or gaf? Whatever, it works either way