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Klelk

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14940 on: March 14, 2022, 07:37:16 AM »

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Honestly something has to be done about From Software fans. No bigger red flag that someone's a horrible asshole exists in gaming circles these days.

What did Elden Ring do to these people  :neogaf

Nintex

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14941 on: March 14, 2022, 07:57:50 AM »
The new cultural revolution is going to be so weird.

Executed by a firing squad along with the landlords because you watched Dave Chapelle or played Elden Ring.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14942 on: March 14, 2022, 07:58:32 AM »
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Financially secure people who own more than one house so they can rent one for passive income: Fuck you, parasite

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As I find myself looking for a house with more and more seriousness it's starting to really chap my ass seeing all these homes for rent. Perfect homes that I would like to buy being rented out for more than twice the cost of a mortgage. I'm sure this is a topic that's been discussed to death in various places but I have to vent my seething hatred of these people.

 :badass

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We have four homes

Me and my wife had 1 each before we got married

Moved in and got one when we got married

Bought a new one a few months ago and moved in a few days ago since our family is growing


The other 3 homes are being rented out to pay off their mortgage and spare change for the savings pot

 :popcorn

Let the pile on begin


https://www.resetera.com/threads/financially-secure-people-who-own-more-than-one-house-so-they-can-rent-one-for-passive-income-fuck-you-parasite.562126/

https://www.resetera.com/threads/financially-secure-people-who-own-more-than-one-house-so-they-can-rent-one-for-passive-income-fuck-you-parasite.562126/#post-83611006

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This is quite the thread to put this reply in, if you are being serious. What class would you say you're part of? Can I ask how much you earn?

 :iface
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14943 on: March 14, 2022, 08:01:33 AM »
He actually replied.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/financially-secure-people-who-own-more-than-one-house-so-they-can-rent-one-for-passive-income-fuck-you-parasite.562126/#post-83611168

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This is quite the thread to put this reply in, if you are being serious. What class would you say you're part of? Can I ask how much you earn?

Yeah … I’d consider myself middle class

Me and my wife are 30 and our household income is £150k. We both got our mortgages based of our own incomes before we got married. Literally just 1 bed flats in south London. We save allot

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Nintex

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14944 on: March 14, 2022, 08:07:40 AM »
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Apparently so. A large portion of era seemingly hates even a hint of wealth.
Yet they can all complete their Amiibo collections :trumps
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benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14945 on: March 14, 2022, 09:54:34 AM »
Royalan had to construct that cover story to hide the fact his fat ass was actually out at 3 am for his eighth footlong of the day (not a euphemism).
"Going out again for another hot date to get some cock!"
"Oh, Roy, you're such a big homo!"

*sits alone at the all you can eat pizza buffet*

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14946 on: March 14, 2022, 10:04:52 AM »
User Banned (3 Days): Hostile and dismissive post

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Yeah, you are right, I shouldn't have posted here. I just thought that maybe there still was such a thing as empathy, but every time I make the same mistake. Hopefully won't happen again!


That's what you see. What we who live here see is that now all the big pubs have "eff you" prices thanks to people doing region hopping and bragging about it in forums. Now that's pretty hard to do, but we still get to pay the "eff you" prices. Anyways, as I've been told before, this is a lost cause and I made a mistake thinking I'd find people here, so have a great day!
So fucking dramatic. But sure be mad at customers and not the corporations doing the punishing.
User Banned (5 Days): Hostility, Low-effort dismissive post

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I shouldn't do this, but I'll bite. You know why I'm "mad" at the "customers" doing this? Because I already know the corporation is a soulless machine hell bent on making money. That same corporation discovered some time ago that pricing stuff in a way people can afford it leads to sales. The problem with these machines is that they forget that the second they see people from other regions jumping in and doing this stuff.
You know who isn't supposed to be soulless machines? People. The "customers" you refer to. That was my problem, and I accept it. I took for granted that people, seeing the problems they cause when doing this, would either not do it, or you know, do it covertly, without bragging about it on a forum. I expected empathy. I was obviously wrong, and for that I apologize. Have a great day!
yawn.
Kurt, explain why you reported these.

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Pissy F Benny

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14948 on: March 14, 2022, 10:13:30 AM »
soyny mad trollin :bow
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Pissy F Benny

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14949 on: March 14, 2022, 10:20:43 AM »
I have it on good authority that JK Rowling is personally coding all of the transphobia in the game :society
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HaughtyFrank

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14950 on: March 14, 2022, 10:23:07 AM »
soyny mad trollin :bow

A whole state of play and it's not even an exclusive  :sabu
« Last Edit: March 14, 2022, 10:30:40 AM by HaughtyFrank »

Propagandhim

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14951 on: March 14, 2022, 10:26:17 AM »
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Financially secure people who own more than one house so they can rent one for passive income: Fuck you, parasite

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As I find myself looking for a house with more and more seriousness it's starting to really chap my ass seeing all these homes for rent. Perfect homes that I would like to buy being rented out for more than twice the cost of a mortgage. I'm sure this is a topic that's been discussed to death in various places but I have to vent my seething hatred of these people.

 :badass

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We have four homes



Me and my wife had 1 each before we got married

Moved in and got one when we got married

Bought a new one a few months ago and moved in a few days ago since our family is growing


The other 3 homes are being rented out to pay off their mortgage and spare change for the savings pot

 :popcorn

Let the pile on begin


https://www.resetera.com/threads/financially-secure-people-who-own-more-than-one-house-so-they-can-rent-one-for-passive-income-fuck-you-parasite.562126/

Class war is finding the guy that makes 50k more than me because he has marketable skills, and turning him into the devil.

benjipwns

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benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14953 on: March 14, 2022, 10:32:36 AM »
Checked the Twitter thread, out of the 700 replies there's a total of one (1) reply mentioning the genocide that Rowling is perpetuating everyone else is excited or debating if it means it's now a Sony exclusive. :fbm

HaughtyFrank

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14954 on: March 14, 2022, 10:38:32 AM »
Quote from: Planetsmasher
I would be happy if we just as a group decide not to talk about Hogwarts Legacy in this thread, since it isn't a Playstation Studios game, regardless of the marketing deal.

Anyone else with me on this?
https://www.resetera.com/threads/playstation-studios-ot26-ghost-of-spartacus.560977/post-83622955

 :sicko



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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14955 on: March 14, 2022, 10:44:40 AM »
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This will be bonkers. I have 3 real life friends who're waiting for this game to buy a PS5.

Harry Potter is such a humongous ip.

God fuck Rowling.

I'll try to get my friends to at most buy a used copy.

I don’t use the word ‘an hero’ lightly but…

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I was really looking forward to Hogwarts, it's gonna be a huge hit and it looks great, but it really sucks that J.K. is gonna profit from it.

I'm gonna buy a used copy of the game most probably.

 :riot


Kurt Russell

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14956 on: March 14, 2022, 10:48:52 AM »
Kurt, explain why you reported these.

I really wish that the guy who squats on my username wasn't such a whiny bitch

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Propagandhim

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14957 on: March 14, 2022, 10:50:54 AM »
This game is the epitome of evil.  It's mere production proliferates an anti-trans toxin through the world and actively expedites the demise of trans folx.   I'm gonna buy a used copy as soon as I can.

 :gamer

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14958 on: March 14, 2022, 11:00:57 AM »
Activision accused of having such an awful workplace with legit sexual harassment that workers have committed suicide, ResetERA.com says "can't do anything about it, plus this happens in literally every developer anyway."

A very small cut of Hogwart's Legacy profits that she won't even notice will go to J.K. "trans rights are human rights" Rowling after paying the developers, the publishers, the partners, etc., ResetERA.com says "any mention of the game is banned and not allowed except for a barebones OT because of the ACTIVE THREAT that Rowling presents to trans women."

SmokyDave

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14959 on: March 14, 2022, 11:28:33 AM »
Huh, it’s almost as if they’re drooling morons.

joeboy101

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14960 on: March 14, 2022, 11:31:54 AM »
Random Item: Saw an ERA thread on the incoming president of SK and him ending gender equality efforts. Guys sounds like a total douchebag, but in the linked Guardian article, they use the following phrase:

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Women continue to face everyday sexism, including pervasive digital sex crimes. Some 80% of survivors of spycam crime are women, 98% of perpetrators are men.

Ummm, what exactly is someone who DOESN’T survive spycam crime??

Mostima

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14961 on: March 14, 2022, 11:36:14 AM »
What is it even trying to say, that men are frequently dying from spycam crimes?

BisMarckie

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14962 on: March 14, 2022, 11:58:00 AM »
Who knew reading one Harry Potter book and not caring for it made me end up on the right side of history :klob

BisMarckie

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14963 on: March 14, 2022, 11:59:05 AM »
I hereby apologize for supporting J.K. Rowling in 1998.

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14964 on: March 14, 2022, 12:02:29 PM »
I watched half of Chambers of Secrets one time and then later watched Prisoner of Azkaban with Rifftrax. :ego

BisMarckie

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14965 on: March 14, 2022, 12:05:52 PM »
TheHunter showing his lack of basic history knowledge  pt. 9172

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Georgraphy fail on my part, I've heard of Kaliningrad but had no idea it was right there between Poland and Lithuania, man that must be weird. Heading off to Wiki, how did that happen.
German's occupied it and the USSR was the only one who would take it.

Quote from: thehunter
I was speaking more to "recent" history.

Obviously the region dates back well past the WW2 era. It's a fascinating read.

:awesome

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Lot's of people here have a very cartoonish/hollywood view of geopolitics.
The understatement of the centaury.

Straight Edge

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14966 on: March 14, 2022, 12:07:36 PM »
Lmao at that landlord thread despite the fact they have monthly threads arguing that renting is a better financial move that having a mortgage.
Oi Oi

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14967 on: March 14, 2022, 12:13:15 PM »
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Lot's of people here have a very cartoonish/hollywood view of geopolitics.
Well, we are literally dealing with a B-tier Bond villain here.
:hmm

SmokyDave

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14968 on: March 14, 2022, 12:14:34 PM »
Who knew reading one Harry Potter book and not caring for it made me end up on the right side of history :klob
Never read any of the books, and nearly punched my missus out after she made me go and watch the last film. Can't remember why, but there was something about the ending so stupid that it made my eyes bleed. Made-me-want-to-start-a-fight-in-Subway stupid.

Got nothing against JK Rowling, but Fuck Harry Potter. The one I saw sucked.

BisMarckie

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14969 on: March 14, 2022, 12:16:01 PM »
I watched half of Chambers of Secrets one time and then later watched Prisoner of Azkaban with Rifftrax. :ego

Gloating about consuming TERF media with no hint of an apology. :curious

ShutUp

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14970 on: March 14, 2022, 12:17:43 PM »
Game is going to be a massive hit. That first sales thread where it runs away with the number one spot will probably be a thread for the record books  :lawd

BisMarckie

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14971 on: March 14, 2022, 12:22:23 PM »
New(?) RedMercury lore:

This sucks, Scott Hall was my favorite and one of the reasons I went into the wrestling business, he had a huge impact on me. Hall is just so effortlessly cool, and everything he did in the ring looked good, especially his punches, but you never heard anyone say getting in the ring with him was a bad time. He managed to completely turn his life around from a real dark place most people don't come back from, and nobody ever gave up on him.

SmokyDave

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14972 on: March 14, 2022, 12:56:18 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/remember-bowsette-well-meet-egg-maam-oof-warning.561955/

Ah, bless. They tried to have a fun thread. Then.....

Quote from: Shahadan
she needs to be fat, not slim and sexy, wtf

......and locked at page 3.

All Was Grey.

Propagandhim

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14973 on: March 14, 2022, 01:03:51 PM »
Scott Hall, an anglo-saxon, took advantage of his 'swarthy' looks to appropriate the identity of a hispanic wrestler to make it rich.  So when I saw that he was on life-support, my first instinct wasn't to say "good", but it wasn't "bad", either.  Ultimately, this kind of systemic racial violence has expedited his demise.

BisMarckie

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14974 on: March 14, 2022, 01:04:09 PM »
Excuse me, the Bore is a safe haven for body positivity  #morefatmods

BisMarckie

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14975 on: March 14, 2022, 01:06:34 PM »
Scott Hall, an anglo-saxon, took advantage of his 'swarthy' looks to appropriate the identity of a hispanic wrestler to make it rich.  So when I saw that he was on life-support, my first instinct wasn't to say "good", but it wasn't "bad", either.  Ultimately, this kind of systemic racial violence has expedited his demise.

Razor Ramon was minstrelsy.

:ufup


Propagandhim

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14976 on: March 14, 2022, 01:08:41 PM »
:dead

Uncle

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14977 on: March 14, 2022, 01:10:39 PM »
What is it even trying to say, that men are frequently dying from spycam crimes?

really anyone dying from a spycam crime has initiated their own demise  :ufup
Uncle

Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14978 on: March 14, 2022, 02:25:56 PM »
Landlord thread closure caused some people to have a minor existential crisis re:Era in Constructive:
Quote from: Aurica
This is something I find to be exceedingly frustrating on this site. Stifling conversation with thread locks that say "This has run its course" or "this isn't needed," etc. The conversation was still going, it is still high on the trending page, and people were obviously passionate about it. I really don't feel that this is fair to the community.

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.resetera.com/threads/financially-secure-people-who-own-more-than-one-house-so-they-can-rent-one-for-passive-income-fuck-you-parasite.562126/page-7#post-83617375[/URL]
Quote from: Dirtyshubb
Definitely agree.

Yes some people were harsh on landlords at some posters who came across as uncaring and out of touch (perfectly understandable) but there was still a lot of discussion in the thread between both parties.
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I agree, it feels like jumping the gun
Quote from: Dr. Monkey
Agreed. It's an extraordinarily huge problem and despite rage (which is pretty justified wrt to the housing market!) there was also actual information and discussion. I think more and more I don't understand what this forum is meant for and this is a really good example. Are we just here for genital joke gotchas in thread titles and three pages of "yep, they're still shitty" every time Terrible Famous Person Again Does Terrible Thing In Same Way As Last Time? Even that's difficult. Some Terrible Famous People threads get locked, others don't; feels like some of this changes day to day. And all of it just makes me want to post and participate less.
Quote from: Anton Sugar
Pretty wild that threads like that get closed for ??? reasons and yet we still have "Count as high as we can until mods close the thread" going strong.

My point isn't to shit on "joke" threads that the community enjoys. But that is a thread with almost literally no discussion.

Like many other posters have pointed out, who decides whether or not a "thread is really needed?" In this case, it feels like the mod just didn't like the thread or the discussion, so they closed it.
Quote from: Dr. Monkey
Same, I'm all for forum games and silliness. I just don't understand how the determinations are made or what the ultimate goal is.
Quote from: Aurica
I think that's what frustrates me most about it—it's completely inconsistent. If there was some guideline being referenced, I'd get it, but the mods just deciding "This isn't needed" strikes me as completely vague and confusing. If there is a discussion being had, just let people have it if it isn't breaking any rules.
Quote from: Dr. Monkey
Right, like maybe there's a high number of reports, etc., things we don't see - cool! fine! But we have no idea, and I'm still operating on the founding assumption that we aren't supposed to be a black box situation.

Mod posts a response that I swear is basically just 'people on my side were being assholes so we closed it so we wouldn't have to penalize them for being assholes':

Quote from: FliX
Quote from: Anton Sugar
Pretty wild that threads like that get closed for ??? reasons and yet we still have "Count as high as we can until mods close the thread" going strong.

My point isn't to shit on "joke" threads that the community enjoys. But that is a thread with almost literally no discussion.

Like many other posters have pointed out, who decides whether or not a "thread is really needed?" In this case, it feels like the mod just didn't like the thread or the discussion, so they closed it.
Why even bring it up if in the next breath you say they have nothing in common.

As for that rental thread. People were getting increasingly heated and personal in that thread, rather than maturely discussing the cons and the bigger cons of being a landlord.
So rather than keeping the honeypot open and banning everyone that cannot help themselves from being antagonistic or personally hostile we chose to save everyone the trouble.

You'd think eventually Era would inadvertently get a competent staff member or two to help message shit like this better, but so far nah.

Morrigan bagging on current staff decisions will never stop amusing me, though:
Quote from: Morrigan
Then maybe the admin should have said THAT in the lock post instead of a condescending one-liner that basically translates to "This topic annoys me so I'm shutting it down" to literally anyone reading that lock post...

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14979 on: March 14, 2022, 02:32:33 PM »
What if, and I know I'm getting crazy here, you don't have to ban "everyone" either implying/saying all landlords should be murdered so their property can be left to rot and people taking that a little personally? Maybe issue a STAFF COMMUNICATION to tone it down or disallow such statements to setup some guidelines but otherwise allow the threads? Or maybe establish at some point what is too "antagonistic or personally hostile" so people actually know? I don't know, I'm just so tired.

HaughtyFrank

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14980 on: March 14, 2022, 02:44:38 PM »

Morrigan bagging on current staff decisions will never stop amusing me, though:
Quote from: Morrigan
Then maybe the admin should have said THAT in the lock post instead of a condescending one-liner that basically translates to "This topic annoys me so I'm shutting it down" to literally anyone reading that lock post...

Morrigan complaining about condescension  :spiders

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14981 on: March 14, 2022, 02:53:33 PM »
yeah, mods fucking hate 'honeypot threads' that get people heated
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when they're not the ones getting people heated by dropping their outrageous takes
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benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14982 on: March 14, 2022, 03:09:52 PM »
Threads like "Black people wash meat to get rid of the poisons" (with Official NO ONE WILL BE BANNED FOR THINGS POSTED IN THIS THREAD) and "Black people are genetically violent" threads aren't honeypot threads, no sir. :kermit

Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14983 on: March 14, 2022, 03:13:51 PM »
Morrigan edits her post to clarify that condescension is only a  problem if the thread it's being leveled at is one she personally considers valid:
Quote from: Morrigan
Then maybe the admin should have said THAT in the lock post instead of a condescending one-liner that basically translates to "This topic annoys me so I'm shutting it down" to literally anyone reading that lock post...

Like, I'm not opposed to snarky lock posts for threads that are indeed completely stupid (usually with bad OPs) but this wasn't it...

Mod briefly seems to almost agree:
Quote from: FliX
Quote from: Morrigan
Then maybe the admin should have said THAT in the lock post instead of a condescending one-liner that basically translates to "This topic annoys me so I'm shutting it down" to literally anyone reading that lock post...
I'm not gonna disagree with you... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

But then:
Quote from: Morrigan
I checked that landlord thread, and it was informative, with a lot of actually really interesting discussion, and while it got heated at times, only one person crossed the line into actual hostility (and got a warning), it wasn't anywhere close to some big ban spree. A simple TRB/staff post to remind people to cool it a bit would have sufficed, at the most.

Being real honest neither the lock post nor the reasoning offered by Flix here make any sense to me. It's like we're talking about two different threads, that's how disconnected it feels.

Snoopycat_

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14984 on: March 14, 2022, 03:34:40 PM »
Poor Morrigan. Reduced to patrolling the construct thread hoping Dubs will notice her.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14985 on: March 14, 2022, 04:45:54 PM »
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Lot's of people here have a very cartoonish/hollywood view of geopolitics.
The understatement of the centaury.


Not top of page centaury
Spud

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14986 on: March 14, 2022, 04:47:57 PM »
New(?) RedMercury lore:

This sucks, Scott Hall was my favorite and one of the reasons I went into the wrestling business, he had a huge impact on me. Hall is just so effortlessly cool, and everything he did in the ring looked good, especially his punches, but you never heard anyone say getting in the ring with him was a bad time. He managed to completely turn his life around from a real dark place most people don't come back from, and nobody ever gave up on him.
Selling tickets in the box office is not going, "into the wrestling business".
Spud

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14987 on: March 14, 2022, 05:21:43 PM »


  :social :exxy :social

BisMarckie

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14988 on: March 14, 2022, 05:31:51 PM »
"Flash deals", yet none of the characters is flashing anything.

FALSE ADVERTISING  :maf :maf :maf

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #14989 on: March 14, 2022, 05:53:02 PM »
Good story about BisMarckie's attempts to become a professor in America: https://reason.com/2022/03/14/how-an-academic-grudge-turned-into-a-metoo-panic/
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Aslin also sent a letter to Jaeger himself, writing that unless he admitted that he had sexually harassed Kidd, he and the other complainants would, despite the risk of a defamation suit, "go public." And he noted that legal action could result in Jaeger's deportation.

"I don't see anyone willing to pony up funds for your defense," he wrote, adding that Jaeger could "be assured that future 'warnings' will be raised whenever [he tries] to engage with other unsuspecting faculty."

"P.S.," he wrote. "Please do not interpret this letter as a threat."
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By the time Aslin quit, Jaeger had twice been cleared of allegations that he violated university policy. But rather than admit defeat, his accusers continued their campaign, resurrecting old charges and adding new ones.

Their avenue this time was a 111-page complaint filed with the federal Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC). They called Jaeger a "narcissistic and manipulative sexual predator" and said he "abused his position of power to manipulate graduate students and post-­docs until they felt almost wholly under his control or in fear of him." Jaeger made it clear, they claimed, "that students who wanted to excel needed to please him, socially and sometimes sexually."
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For Jaeger, the timing couldn't have been worse. For his accusers, it couldn't have been better. At the end of the year, Cantlon and Kidd were featured as two of Time's People of the Year along with "silence breakers" Ashley Judd, Megyn Kelly, and others who suffered abuse at the hands of men like Harvey Weinstein and Roger Ailes.
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Curiously, while the White investigation concluded that there was no evidence that Jaeger was a predator, that he hadn't violated university policy, and that there had been no retaliation against the complainants, the complainants at once questioned the validity of the investigation and claimed that they had been validated.

"The report describes Florian Jaeger as the predator that I know him to be," Kidd said at a press conference. She and the others vowed to continue their fight in federal court. The next month, the Faculty Senate voted to formally censure Jaeger.

By this time, two years after the fight over Michele Rucci's hiring sparked Cantlon's complaints, Jaeger had been investigated three times. And then, in July 2018, came a new complaint, this one from a postdoc at a different university. The postdoc, whose name was never publicly disclosed, claimed that she saw Jaeger grope a women's breast and buttocks while walking back from a post-conference gathering and that, at the time, she submitted a complaint to conference organizers.

This prompted another investigation, which was conducted by the firm Littler Mendelson, which specializes in employee litigation. The investigation concluded both that the postdoc's allegation was false and that she never submitted a complaint to conference organizers. The alleged victim of this incident, who asked not to be named to avoid professional repercussions, told me that the claim was "nonsense" and that the groping "never happened."

This was the fourth investigation to conclude that claims against Jaeger were unsupported by facts, but the findings were never made public.
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The complainants had one more avenue to pursue their case against Jaeger: a federal lawsuit.

This suit was filed not against Jaeger himself but against the university, as well as President Seligman and Provost Clark. The complainants, now plaintiffs, again claimed that Jaeger was a "serial sexual predator who had caused misery to students and colleagues" and that the U.R. administration had retaliated against and defamed members of the group when they spoke out.

The university filed a motion to dismiss. In August 2019, that motion was denied, and after two years of court proceedings and negotiations, the university settled in March 2020. Neither party would admit wrongdoing, and the plaintiffs would receive $9.4 million through the university's insurer. As part of the settlement, the university agreed to take the White report off of its website. Jaeger himself was never interviewed as part of the suit.

Despite multiple investigations finding they both misrepresented what happened and violated confidentiality, Jaeger's accusers had ultimately won. Kidd, now at U.C. Berkeley, and Cantlon, now at Carnegie Mellon University, are seen by many as heroes. Aslin won a National Academy of Sciences (NAS) Award in 2020. In a press release, the NAS noted that he has "shown leadership in the field by standing up to support his students, especially women, when they face injustice."

I reached out to Jaeger's principal accusers; none agreed to be interviewed for this piece. Cantlon did, however, send me the complainants' rebuttal to the White report, adding "The graduate program isn't a personal harem for faculty men like Florian." She also reiterated her claims that Jaeger made unwanted advances, that he coerced students into sex, and that he was a bully and a harasser—and she accused White, the investigator, of bias herself.
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That's the label, the rumor, that refuses to die. Twice this fall, someone wrote on the wall outside Jaeger's office: "Sexual predators are not welcome here" and "You have no place on this campus." Letters have been sent to his house, threats have been left on his voicemail, and there have been flyers posted around campus reading, "FIRE JAEGER," and "$10 Million Won't Make Us Forget."

And then there was the protest last Meliora Weekend, when 40 students showed up.

I talked to one of the student organizers of the protest, a junior who told the campus paper he wanted to make sure the community didn't forget. When I asked if he'd read the White report—or any of the reports—he said he had not. What he had read were the articles about it in the media, and what he'd heard were the rumors that trail Jaeger around like an unwanted guest.

"If I hear something from multiple people," he told me, "I have no reason to doubt it."

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« Reply #14990 on: March 14, 2022, 06:05:43 PM »
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So the guy that sang the n-word at every show, bragged about having a rape room and being on drugs 24 hours a day, for 20+ years is just a character. Yeahokay

Oh boy, they are dumber than soccer moms.

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« Reply #14991 on: March 14, 2022, 06:07:26 PM »
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Jaeger rejected the sort of hierarchy that is common in academia, seeing himself as equal to both his superiors and his students.

:hhh

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« Reply #14992 on: March 14, 2022, 06:13:00 PM »
Good story about BisMarckie's attempts to become a professor in America: https://reason.com/2022/03/14/how-an-academic-grudge-turned-into-a-metoo-panic/


The name of the woman I groped? Benjamina Pwns.
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BisMarckie

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« Reply #14993 on: March 14, 2022, 06:16:04 PM »
A professor in Germany is having an ongoing battle with trotskyists. :existential
The wikipedia article only skims the surface.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B6rg_Baberowski

Uncle

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« Reply #14994 on: March 14, 2022, 06:21:20 PM »
I'm tellin' ya I've been dealing with a case of the trotskys myself
Uncle

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« Reply #14995 on: March 14, 2022, 06:33:15 PM »
A professor in Germany is having an ongoing battle with trotskyists. :existential
Membership   273 (2016)[1]
Losing to a political party that doesn't even have 1000 members.

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« Reply #14996 on: March 14, 2022, 06:45:06 PM »
A professor in Germany is having an ongoing battle with trotskyists. :existential
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Losing to a political party that doesn't even have 1000 members.

I agree with the court ruling that their actions fall within freedom of speech, but imagine getting harassed by a lunatic fringe party just because you invited someone for a guest lecture who didn't like Trotsky. :stahp

I would just create a new lecture where you pit Stalinists and Trotskysts against each other and let the  problem take care of itself :rollsafe

aka the benji neogaf method

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« Reply #14997 on: March 14, 2022, 07:33:24 PM »
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I would be happy if we just as a group decide not to talk about Hogwarts Legacy in this thread, since it isn't a Playstation Studios game, regardless of the marketing deal.

Anyone else with me on this?
https://www.resetera.com/threads/playstation-studios-ot26-ghost-of-spartacus.560977/post-83622955

 :sicko



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« Reply #14998 on: March 14, 2022, 07:41:29 PM »
They should ban Sony as well. Guilty by association. How many trans kids gonna die on Thursday thanks to this stream? On this week of all weeks!

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« Reply #14999 on: March 14, 2022, 07:42:47 PM »
    Can't talk about a state of play, this must really hurt  :lol

    They care for this marketing hype more than the actual games

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Transistor Firstly, I don't disagree with this.

I just want to ask you directly, given the devs efforts to include trans representation, how we as a community navigate trans inclusion, in this particular instance, from those that actually hold the license and are building/creating the trans inclusive game?

All of which is in stark contrast with JK's abhorrent deluge

 :sicko

(Also it's funny that they still think Rowling would be against including a trans character in the game. That's really not what she's talking about)[/list]