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[Snoopycat_]

Excel's at the footy today -

[benjipwns]

Like Dave Chappelle, Chris Rock was a well known early Trump supporter. Everybody in the Black community knew about it. It was all over Black Twitter. Not surprised that the yts never picked up on it.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

I mean. The man let emotions get the better of him. Rock has been shit talking for years at Jada, then on the Oscar's where Jada isn't nominated , just living her life quietly on the seats gets ragged on again by Rock and now hes doing the ragging via her autoimmune condition understandably flipped Smith's switch.

The white knighting for jada is so pathetic.

Is this strictly a thing between him and Jada?

Or are we seeing some incel traits in Chris Rock?

Does he regularly knock celebrity women in his acts?

Welp. 


I wonder how many of these people watched the rest of the show, or any show, or any comedy act or jokes

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-rocks-antagonistic-and-demeaning-behaviour-towards-jada-pinkett-smith-didnt-start-in-2016-but-in-1997-see-staff-post.568252/page-2#post-84511657

User Banned (1 Month): Ignoring Staff Post

Here’s the part I don’t get and it’s my only issue with the entire incident: why didn’t Wil just tune him up backstage? I’m not even in the anti violence camp. If that’s what time it is and Wil was finally ready to give Rock hands, ok..no problems. Sometimes it’s like that. But time and place has been my entire issue. Off cam, back stage? Lemme holla at you. That’s all I’m saying.

Edit- I’ll even go so far to say that Tyler, Denzel, Diddy and whoever would’ve kept the cameras away and kept it on the low if it went down. No world star no ET. Just saying that’s what I don’t understand. Why did Will go THIS route?

[Propagandhim]

Damn, you'd think when they announced Rock as host someone would have said something since the entire black race twitter community knew about it for years.  I guess that's how bad shit has gotten - there are just too many other injustices in the world that they could not manage to even bring it up.  We have to do better because this shit is unacceptable.

[Taco Bell Tower]

I get it. Era hates Chris Rock.
really not seeing that much wrong with the 97 clip that was likely rehearsed and discussed before performing on a comedic talk show, but okay.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Next time read the staff post, dumbass.

actioning in 3..2..never

[Cauliflower Of Love]

I think excel did a good job though picking a clip that has rock giving jada a prize for not mentioning will during the interview. 

so meta

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/russia-has-begun-a-full-scale-invasion-in-ukraine-read-staff-posts.556366/page-973#post-84238906

User Banned (1 month): concern trolling

Why cite an organisation like ISW as a sound authority on the current situation in Ukraine? The ISW run by the neocon Kagan family whom are long time DC warmongers, and the ISW is their “think-tank” that pursues aggressive foreign policies with the purpose of escalating conflicts around the globe for the benefit of defence contractors. Also, wasn’t a Kagan involved in the 2014 ousting of the elected Ukrainian President Yanukovych which led to civil war and thus this current situation?

[Taco Bell Tower]

Imagine the colossal waste of energy and time spent attacking someone for 25 fucking years - a third to a quarter of an entire fucking life.

[benjipwns]

Is this strictly a thing between him and Jada?

Or are we seeing some incel traits in Chris Rock?

Does he regularly knock celebrity women in his acts?

Chris Rock has been one of the leaders of the incel movement for decades, everybody knew about this, on his first album Born Suspect he starts by demanding the audience pledge allegiance to inceldom and proclaims that being an incel is the only way to live. Everybody at SNL knew, David Spade literally lived in fear for his life because Chris Rock might confuse him for a woman and then rape and murder him. Chris Farley tried to get Lorne Michaels to do something but he refused because he was also an incel. Anyone who's watched SNL knows this.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Is this strictly a thing between him and Jada?

Or are we seeing some incel traits in Chris Rock?

Does he regularly knock celebrity women in his acts?

Chris Rock has been one of the leaders of the incel movement for decades, everybody knew about this, on his first album Born Suspect he starts by demanding the audience pledge allegiance to inceldom and proclaims that being an incel is the only way to live. Everybody at SNL knew, David Spade literally lived in fear for his life because Chris Rock might confuse him for a woman and then rape and murder him. Chris Farley tried to get Lorne Michaels to do something but he refused because he was also an incel. Anyone who's watched SNL knows this.

Someone actually posted that lol

Getting some strong incel vibes tbh.

[Rman]

I mean. The man let emotions get the better of him. Rock has been shit talking for years at Jada, then on the Oscar's where Jada isn't nominated , just living her life quietly on the seats gets ragged on again by Rock and now hes doing the ragging via her autoimmune condition understandably flipped Smith's switch.

The white knighting for jada is so pathetic.

Is this strictly a thing between him and Jada?

Or are we seeing some incel traits in Chris Rock?

Does he regularly knock celebrity women in his acts?

Welp. 


I wonder how many of these people watched the rest of the show, or any show, or any comedy act or jokes

Era clearly doesn’t understand the concept of roasting.

[benjipwns]

Honestly, I've been very sus about Chris Rock since he chose to play a cop in Lethal Weapon 4.

Alongside Mel Gibson too, a literal terror threat.

[Propagandhim]

Do we know that Chris Rock isn't alt-right?  Not saying he is, but do we know if he isn't?  When Pewdiepie said the N-word, I don't remember Chris condemning it?  Again, not saying he's alt-right, but isn't it kinda weird?

[benjipwns]

Do we know that Chris Rock isn't alt-right?  Not saying he is, but do we know if he isn't?

You tell me, does spreading alt-right conspiracy theories about things that don't exist make someone alt-right?

In May 2021, Rock voiced opposition to cancel culture.[72][73][74][75][76] He said that it has led to "boring" and "unfunny" material from comedians.[72][73][74] He also commented that there is an existing built-in mechanism for audiences informing comedians that their content does not work, like the audience not laughing at their jokes.[72][73][74] Rock went on to say "Everybody's scared to make a move. That's not a place to be. You know, we should have the right to fail because failure . . . failure is a part of art."[72]

[Propagandhim]

Do we know that Chris Rock isn't alt-right?  Not saying he is, but do we know if he isn't?

You tell me, does spreading alt-right conspiracy theories about things that don't exist make someone alt-right?

In May 2021, Rock voiced opposition to cancel culture.[72][73][74][75][76] He said that it has led to "boring" and "unfunny" material from comedians.[72][73][74] He also commented that there is an existing built-in mechanism for audiences informing comedians that their content does not work, like the audience not laughing at their jokes.[72][73][74] Rock went on to say "Everybody's scared to make a move. That's not a place to be. You know, we should have the right to fail because failure . . . failure is a part of art."[72]

a hit dog hollers

holy
shit

[benjipwns]

a hit dog hollers

holy
shit

It's okay to say it, Chris Rock has always gotten away with things because of his whiteness:

[Propagandhim]

"I only knew white people only knew 2 black comedians growing up." 

[benita]

Do we know that Chris Rock isn't alt-right?  Not saying he is, but do we know if he isn't?  When Pewdiepie said the N-word, I don't remember Chris condemning it?  Again, not saying he's alt-right, but isn't it kinda weird?

That reminds me:

- the biggest videogame of 2020
- the most anticipated videogame of 2022
- the biggest podcast in the world
- the biggest book franchise in the world
- the biggest celebrity event this decade
- the biggest youtuber in the world

[Polident Hive]

A clip going around has Chris Rock saying it’s OK for Louie CK, public wanker, to use the n word. Then is OK with Ricky Gervais, is Ricky Gervais, saying the n word. Only Jerry Seinfeld is against white comedians using the word. But then it’s brought up that Jerry dated a 17 year old in his late 30s. It’s hard to find a wholesome comedian out here. Please don’t disappoint me Michael Richards.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-rocks-antagonistic-and-demeaning-behaviour-towards-jada-pinkett-smith-didnt-start-in-2016-but-in-1997-see-staff-post.568252/page-3#post-84518689

I'm not a Chris Rock fan by any measure of the term. Am I correct in understanding that:

    He made fun of Jada in 2022
    He made fun of Jada in 2016
    He made fun of Jada AND the Million Woman March in 1997 (from the video)

So that's 3-4 jokes (depending on how you're counting) towards the same person in 25 years? 1 joke every 6+ years? That really doesn't seem that out of line tbh. I feel like you'd have a stronger case with 2 jokes in the last 6 years, but even that feels kind of flimsy without more.

[HaughtyFrank]

a hit dog hollers

holy
shit

It's okay to say it, Chris Rock has always gotten away with things because of his whiteness:
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Some wild implications about how someone non-white would never tell a mean joke of it wasn't for white people

[benjipwns]

A clip going around has Chris Rock saying it’s OK for Louie CK, public wanker, to use the n word. Then is OK with Ricky Gervais, is Ricky Gervais, saying the n word. Only Jerry Seinfeld is against white comedians using the word. But then it’s brought up that Jerry dated a 17 year old in his late 30s. It’s hard to find a wholesome comedian out here. Please don’t disappoint me Michael Richards.

Right, Chris Rock refused to call out Nazi chud Louis CK, as part of an alt-right panel with fellow "cancel culture" conspiracy theorists Gervais and Seinfeld where they said the word and praised the Charlottesville rally:



The evidence has been before our eyes the entire time, yet Chris Rock keeps getting work because "cancel culture" does not exist and is just a cover for the white supremacy that people like Chris Rock benefit endlessly from. Though Black people knew this a long time ago which is why none of them like Chris Rock and never have.

[Propagandhim]

Wrong opinion.  Hit the bricks, shithead.

[HaughtyFrank]

4 jokes in more than 20 years? He could for sure have an axe to grind but its weird to present that as evidence of systematic targetting...

Is there any other Black woman in Hollywood he's targeted more than Jada?

Is there any other woman in Hollywood whose husband previously had words with him, behind the scenes, to stop targeting her?

Royalan, my big guy, the burden of proof is on you. 4 jokes in 25 years is not "targeting"

This clown tries to shift the argument "show me someone he targeted more" which is just an argumentative trap because then you'd already have to agree that 4 jokes over 25 years can be considered targeting and it's now only about who is targeted more

[Potato]

Free all borelitical prisoners tbh

No one is truely free unless we've all been blessed with freedom - Nintex

Does this include himu? Because if it does, then...

[benjipwns]

4 jokes in more than 20 years? He could for sure have an axe to grind but its weird to present that as evidence of systematic targetting...

Is there any other Black woman in Hollywood he's targeted more than Jada?

Is there any other woman in Hollywood whose husband previously had words with him, behind the scenes, to stop targeting her?

Royalan, my big guy, the burden of proof is on you. 4 jokes in 25 years is not "targeting"

Until we analyze all of Chris Rock's jokes from history and place them into a pile of punching-up and punching-down how can we say for sure he's not an incel?

This really the hill you want to die on?

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Will looks comfortable holding a goldman in his hand.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

also everyone is a scholar on chris rocks stand up all a sudden.

Is there any other Black woman in Hollywood he's targeted more than Jada?

Is there any other woman in Hollywood whose husband previously had words with him, behind the scenes, to stop targeting her?

also y'all


I'd love to see a graph of people realizing excel isn't a poc and promptly getting banned when saying fuck off.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

 

True to his character, the Los Angeles Times reported that Rock also made a joke about the slap. Backstage, the comic said, he “just got punched in the face by Muhammad Ali and didn’t get a scratch.”

 

[Averon]

Wait, so Chris Rock is...

-An incel
-A "bully"
-A harasser
-Possibly alt-right

Over 3-5 jokes about JPS over a 25 year span? 
This is the slam dunk case against him that ERA (more like Nep) wants us to take seriously?

[benjipwns]

My family has already made their minds up about this, and no amount of extra detail (like this video) is seemingly changing their minds.

I really hope Chris has to answer for all this. No one should have to put up for this for a day let alone decades.

You haven't cut those racist pieces of shit out of your life yet?!?

[Averon]

    

I would bet Chris Rock has made fun of multiple people on multiple occasions. I think most comedians have poked jokes at celebrities at one time or another. I think you can make a video like that with other comedians/celebrities as well.

I think it's a reach. It looks as the author of the video disagrees with how Chris' stances or joking on topics they took seriously and flips it to subscribe as a bitter grudge since he cracked on a famous person they agree with.

Going back into the territory of "don't crack on things I like, just make fun of people I want you to".

I'm not a Chris Rock fan by any measure of the term. Am I correct in understanding that:

    He made fun of Jada in 2022
    He made fun of Jada in 2016
    He made fun of Jada AND the Million Woman March in 1997 (from the video)

So that's 3-4 jokes (depending on how you're counting) towards the same person in 25 years? 1 joke every 6+ years? That really doesn't seem that out of line tbh. I feel like you'd have a stronger case with 2 jokes in the last 6 years, but even that feels kind of flimsy without more.

This feels like the Texas Sharpshooter fallacy… cherry picking data clusters to suit an argument, or finding a pattern to fit a presumption.

Please forgive me if I’m wrong (and I would appreciate a correction cause I’m trying my best to get better at learning to identify fallacies. Just please don’t ban me.)

4 jokes in more than 20 years? He could for sure have an axe to grind but its weird to present that as evidence of systematic targetting...

Some independent thought is leaking in that thread, so I guess Nep is sleeping right now. Watch the bans skyrocket in that thread come tomorrow afternoon at the latest.

[benjipwns]

Some independent thought is leaking in that thread, so I guess Nep is sleeping right now. Watch the bans skyrocket in that thread come tomorrow afternoon at the latest.

The prominent members are on it:

I guess you could argue that it has only happened x times in y years if you were feeling charitable towards Chris Rock.

Another way to put it, however, is that he hasn't stopped doing it after y years if you put any value in Jada's perspective.

you can argue the proportionality of the occurrences, but you can't argue whether Jada has been a subject of Chris' jokes over the years.

it's clear that she has.

And if there was a previous personal conversation about the incidences between these people involved, then the reappearance of 90s Rock doing insult comic schtick when he see's his old friend Jada, and then referencing some old as fuck 90's movie to do it is just....

well it's comedy on a level that Rock didn't intend, i'll tell you that much.

I suspect that 4 jokes about Jada Pinkett Smith over 25 years would be 4 more jokes than some comedians have told about Jada Pinkett Smith over 25 years.

Jokes per target per span of time? That you've seen. In this thread. Is this what we're doing?

Not considering the 30-90 performances per tour/leg? Not the midnight impromptu appearances at the comedy cellar? Not the jokes that don't name you personally but are still about your type of person?

Let's not be obtuse towards how comedy is performed.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

did i do good mama?



can I have seconds tonight? 

[HaughtyFrank]

Not the jokes that don't name you personally but are still about your type of person?

Fuck. This means Chris Rock has been personally harassing me for over 30 years

[benjipwns]

I wouldn't normally advocate for putting a Black man in prison and throwing away the key, but the fact that Chris Rock is still walking around a free man shows that there's truly no justice for Black bodies that are victims of whiteness in this country.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-rocks-antagonistic-and-demeaning-behaviour-towards-jada-pinkett-smith-didnt-start-in-2016-but-in-1997-see-staff-post.568252/post-84522472

Not my fault that in addition to casting doubt on the thesis of my OP that people decided to also argue that Rock's misogyny is just his "act"

Reward Unlocked.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

Thread lock by Nepenthe incoming.

[PogiJones]

Does CNN LARPing Smith count as Other Forums?

He could have reached out to Pinkett-Smith, took her hand and leaned over to whisper in her ear: "This guy is a mean-spirited jerk and I'm going to tell the world that. You're beautiful, tonight and always."

[Cauliflower Of Love]

This is kinda great.

[nobody of note]

Not Slayven parroting Twitter digestions of interviews without having read the interview itself, from August 2015:

These days, the young star and her folks get along, er, famously—so much so, in fact, that she and her dad got matching “Free at last” tattoos about a year ago. But it wasn’t only her parents’ celebrity that hampered Kravitz’s ability to feel like she belonged while growing up. As one of few black kids in her predominately white school, she remembers saying things like, “I’m just as white as y’all,” to her classmates. “I identified with white culture, and I wanted to fit in,” she says. “I didn’t identify with black culture, like, I didn’t like Tyler Perry movies, and I wasn’t into hip-hop music. I liked Neil Young.” But as time went on, her views shifted. “Black culture is so much deeper than that,” she says, “but unfortunately that is what’s fed through the media. That’s what people see. That’s what I saw. But then I got older and listened to A Tribe Called Quest and watched films with Sidney Poitier, and heard Billie Holiday and Nina Simone. I had to un-brainwash myself. It’s my mission, especially as an actress.”

It's not the same as the Jaden interview, but I'm struggling to understand what about this is so weird. Era just had a whole big thing about Black people feeling the need to behave a certain way when in white spaces; someone reflecting on those pressures in their youth seems pretty normal.

[PogiJones]

Not sure why you guys keep attributing every bad ban to Nep. RE's entire mod list is full of unhinged lunatics. Nep is the biggest drop in the bucket, but still just a drop.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Just please don’t ban me.
 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Alright, im bored of that thread, gonna lock it up.

[benita]

Is it possible that we're underpaying just how batshit insane it is that declaring Will Smith may have gone too far by slapping a comedian on stage at the Oscars for a dumb joke, is an instaban position?

Like, that's fucking crazy even by era standards isn't it?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/digital-foundry-death-stranding-directors-cut-pc-vs-ps5-graphics-breakdown.568156/#post-84493879

User Banned (2 Weeks): Inflammatory rhetoric, account In junior phase.

dgrdsv This is pretty interesting.

"PS5 loads in 4.38 seconds vs 10.12 seconds on a PC w/ an i9 10900k & 3.5 GB/s NVME drive"

PC with I9 12 and 7.5 Gb is 9 s.

PS5 loading capabilities are raping those thousand dollars PCs

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-rocks-antagonistic-and-demeaning-behaviour-towards-jada-pinkett-smith-didnt-start-in-2016-but-in-1997-see-staff-post.568252/page-4#post-84526189

Everybody Hates Chris >>>>>>> Fresh Prince of Bel-Air

Nah, but seriously, I can't even begin to fathom how you weirdos are so hell bent on making Chris out to be the bad guy. Dude was literally smacked in the face on live TV for an incredibly mild joke lol. "WiLl DiD nOtHiNg WrOnG" my ass. It doesn't matter how many jokes Chris Rock has told. I mean, between the famous "keep my wife's name out of your mouth" line and his unhinged speech he gave later in the show after winning an Oscar, Will clearly has a few screws loose lol. Maybe it's the Scientology...

Anyway, all these people are rich and famous as hell aka super privileged so who even cares either way? Jada is gonna be fine, I promise lol.

Clock is ticking...

[benjipwns]

Is it possible that we're underpaying just how batshit insane it is that declaring Will Smith may have gone too far by slapping a comedian on stage at the Oscars for a dumb joke, is an instaban position?

Like, that's fucking crazy even by era standards isn't it?

What part of "talk shit, get hit" are you not understanding? You seriously concern trolling right now about this? If you want to hate Black women there's the entire rest of the internet out there for you.

Y'all wanted to see the human side of mods, here it is. You just lucky we ain't at the Oscars right now.

[ShutUp]

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Wrong opinion.  Hit the bricks, shithead.

This is worth a month ban but Mimic posting videos of verbal abuse with kids crying in the background is worth a 24 hour timeout.

They’ve lost the plot so badly it’s like a new Disney Star Wars sequel out here.

[BadAss2961]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-rocks-antagonistic-and-demeaning-behaviour-towards-jada-pinkett-smith-didnt-start-in-2016-but-in-1997-see-staff-post.568252/page-4#post-84526189

Everybody Hates Chris >>>>>>> Fresh Prince of Bel-Air

Nah, but seriously, I can't even begin to fathom how you weirdos are so hell bent on making Chris out to be the bad guy. Dude was literally smacked in the face on live TV for an incredibly mild joke lol. "WiLl DiD nOtHiNg WrOnG" my ass. It doesn't matter how many jokes Chris Rock has told. I mean, between the famous "keep my wife's name out of your mouth" line and his unhinged speech he gave later in the show after winning an Oscar, Will clearly has a few screws loose lol. Maybe it's the Scientology...

Anyway, all these people are rich and famous as hell aka super privileged so who even cares either way? Jada is gonna be fine, I promise lol.

Clock is ticking...

One week? One month? Perm?

Place your bets.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Is it possible that we're underpaying just how batshit insane it is that declaring Will Smith may have gone too far by slapping a comedian on stage at the Oscars for a dumb joke, is an instaban position?

Like, that's fucking crazy even by era standards isn't it?

What part of "talk shit, get hit" are you not understanding? You seriously concern trolling right now about this? If you want to hate Black women there's the entire rest of the internet out there for you.

Y'all wanted to see the human side of mods, here it is. You just lucky we ain't at the Oscars right now.

top of page topping pinkett

spoiler (click to show/hide)

stop it you sickos

[close]

[ShutUp]

did i do good mama?

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can I have seconds tonight?

Poor Lupita having to sit right behind all of that happening 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

The "there's a difference between Black people and distinguished black fellows" thing that I've heard a lot of whites lean into over the course of my life pretty much comes from him. Granted, he's recanted and regretted that bit, but the damage is done.

imagine



nevermind

Rich and famous people are still human beings. Being a public figure who is black comes with some very unique hardships as well.

fun fact, rock and pinkett are about same net worth.

throw will into the mix and pinkett is like half a billion deep in the black.

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there's also like a billion people deep in the black will

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[ShutUp]

FOUR JOKES OVER 25 YEARS


SWEET BABY JESUS OH THE HUMANITY

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-rocks-antagonistic-and-demeaning-behaviour-towards-jada-pinkett-smith-didnt-start-in-2016-but-in-1997-see-staff-post.568252/page-4#post-84526189

Everybody Hates Chris >>>>>>> Fresh Prince of Bel-Air

Nah, but seriously, I can't even begin to fathom how you weirdos are so hell bent on making Chris out to be the bad guy. Dude was literally smacked in the face on live TV for an incredibly mild joke lol. "WiLl DiD nOtHiNg WrOnG" my ass. It doesn't matter how many jokes Chris Rock has told. I mean, between the famous "keep my wife's name out of your mouth" line and his unhinged speech he gave later in the show after winning an Oscar, Will clearly has a few screws loose lol. Maybe it's the Scientology...

Anyway, all these people are rich and famous as hell aka super privileged so who even cares either way? Jada is gonna be fine, I promise lol.

Clock is ticking...

User Banned (1 Month): Ignoring the staff post

[Cauliflower Of Love]

They stated they dabbled in it, like they do with other religions. But they decided it weren't for them.

Probably because only guys are allowed to have harems.

[Cauliflower Of Love]

oh, jayden is gender fluid.


era siding with will explained.   jfc

[Transhuman]

Their last ditch effort to control the narrative is a whole thread for victim blamimg Chris Rock for being assaulted.