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[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/alleged-rapist-and-former-twitch-streamer-methodjosh-helped-build-an-nft-startup-by-hiding-behind-a-pseudonym.573877/#post-85286503

User Banned (2 Weeks): Concern Trolling Over Sexual Abuse Allegations; Account in Junior Phase

When even NFT scams throw you out, that shows a lot about how much of an asshole you are tbh.

Nah Josh doesnt deserve statements like these. There is no reason to not question why the justice system is so slow with this.

This is the same mindset that has gotten plenty of innocent people convicted, rushing the process is not the answer and never has been. Do all the investigating before conviction. Everybody, no matter the crime, how you feel about them, or allegations has the right to due process.

[benjipwns]

If there was any perfect example of why this pronoun thing is the dumbest shit ever.

Nope, sorry, it's pretty much ideal:

Keep going if you dare...

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How to Respect People Who Use Multiple Sets of Pronouns

Welcome to Pronoun PEMDAS

Do you remember learning the order of operations for evaluating a math expression in grade school? It was taught as PEMDAS (parentheses, exponents, multiplication, division, addition, and subtraction) or “Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally.”

I loved PEMDAS. That process, along with learning my times tables, was the height of my short-lived math career. I appreciated the simplicity and conciseness of the acronym and the fool-proofed feeling of it.

I want to propose a similar concept for people who use multiple pronouns — not for them; they know what they’re doing. But for those of us who don’t use multiple pronouns, an acronym that simplifies why some choose to use more than one set of pronouns and reminds everyone of the importance of respecting them.

Before supplying you with my handy-dandy acronym, let us briefly define the use of multiple pronouns: when any individual utilizes more than one pronoun (ex: she/they, he/she/they, they/it, xe/her, they/fae) to describe themself.

PIDOS

The acronym I propose is PIDOS (preferred, interchangeable, dipping their toes in, occasion-based, and safety net). I like PIDOS because it sounds similar to the Spanish verb for ask, “pedir”, and asking others with an aim to learn, show respect, and create safe spaces, is home base for all gender-related questions.

The following are examples of individuals you may encounter who fall under the various PIDOS categories.

P (preferred)

Meet Erin. Erin uses she/they pronouns. They’re a nonbinary femme and AFAB (assigned female at birth), and they’re not planning to go on T or have any surgeries. Erin uses she/they because they get misgendered frequently enough that it is simply less emotional labor to offer up both pronouns even though they strongly prefer “they.”

If you know Erin’s preferences, use “they” for them. “She” is there because their gender is frequently disrespected, and they’ve made their pronouns clear.

I (interchangeable)

Meet Brady. Brady uses he/she/they pronouns. Brady’s pronouns are interchangeable, and he feels best when his pronouns are mixed around from sentence to sentence. If you’re spending time in public with Brady, it’s wise to make sure she still feels comfortable being gendered with multiple pronouns because it can be an unfortunate risk to their safety.
Brady also may have days or weeks where they prefer one pronoun over another. Check in with her frequently, or set up a system where he can easily let you know if their pronouns have changed.

D (dipping their toe in)

Meet Leslie. Leslie’s pronouns are he/they. Leslie is AMAB (assigned male at birth) and questioning his gender. He is out as questioning to his closest friends, but no one else knows. Leslie is not out to his parents, and his parents don’t suspect anything, so they call Leslie “he.” Leslie is testing out “they” with his two closest friends to see how it makes him feel. He’s dipping his toes into the genderqueer pool.

Unless you’re one of Leslie’s two closest friends, calling him “he” is correct for now. Leslie may reach out to you and ask you to shift to “they,” but until that point, “he” is the right option. If you were to call Leslie “they” without him giving you explicit permission, that could overwhelm him. Gender can be a very private thing, and changing a person’s pronouns without them asking you to do so can cause significant stress and insecurity.

O (occasion-based)

Meet Daunte. Daunte uses he/she/fae pronouns. Daunte is genderfluid and has comfortably been out to most of the people in faer life for several months. Daunte uses “he” at work because fae feel the safest in that label when out in a public-facing position. Fae use “he/she” interchangeably with nearly everyone else in faer life. Daunte is only called “fae” by faer closest friends who know what it means and how to use it properly.

If you know that Daunte occasionally uses fae/faer/faerself pronouns, learn more about how to use faer pronouns correctly, but do not make the shift without checking in with Daunte first. If you work with Daunte, using “fae” at the wrong time could out faer, and that is never okay. You can learn more about all of Daunte’s pronouns without necessarily using all of them.

S (safety net)

Meet Ryan. Ryan uses they/it pronouns. They have been out as transfeminine nonbinary for two years, and they are now introducing “it” into their proper pronouns as the primary option. Because “it” is a lesser known pronoun, Ryan still uses “they” as a safety net option for those are uncomfortable or unfamiliar with it/it/its pronouns.

Calling Ryan “it” after having done your research and checking in will likely be affirming. It doesn’t expect everyone to understand, and it’s happy to talk with you more about how it came to understand it’s gender and subsequently, it’s pronouns. Learning more about neopronouns is a doable and necessary part of becoming more gender literate.

As the saying goes, if you’ve met one trans and/or genderqueer person, you’ve met one trans and/or genderqueer person. Each person who uses multiple pronouns has a different, personalized reason why they do so, and they may or may not be willing to share.

Regardless of how much or how little information you have about another person’s pronouns, there are reliable, loving ways to clarify and meet their needs.

1. Ask

You can ask another person about their pronouns — specifically asking for the basics of which pronouns they use and how they like them to be used. If you were to ask me, I would say, “I use they/them/theirs pronouns. These are the only correct pronouns to use for me, and I want them to be used at all times regardless of who’s around. The only exception to this rule is in short interactions with strangers or acquaintances that we’re unlikely to see again. If the McDonald’s employee calls me ‘sir’ when they hand me our food, I don’t expect nor want anyone to correct them because that isn’t worth it and causes more trouble than it’s worth.”

(I likely wouldn’t be that eloquent or concise, but I’d get somewhat close.)

Remember that it’s no one’s responsibility to justify their usage (or lack) of pronouns to you. They are them, and they know themself best — just like you know you best. You don’t have to know anything more than the basics I outlined above to respect another person and address them correctly, and you can always lead by example by introducing yourself with your pronouns and inviting others to do the same.

2. Check In Intelligently

If you’re unsure of another’s pronouns (whether or not you already know that person and believe that you may know the answer), you can ask at a casual, appropriate time. But, please ask with some decorum. The last thing I want to hear is: “You look like a guy these days. You sure you don’t want me to start using he/him for you?”

That is bad. Don’t do that. Don’t assume.

Gender expression, gender identity, and pronouns are connected, but they aren’t the same. A better, less assumptive way to ask the question you’re getting at would be: “Hey! Gender check: are your pronouns still they/them?”

That’s lighthearted and it doesn’t come from a place of believing you know me better than I do. It also doesn’t point out any part of my presentation as seeming gendered in a way that is “too strong” to be a believable piece of my nonbinary identity.

Put simply, saying I look like a guy makes me question my hair, clothes, posture, and everything else that may have been led you to make that comment. It’s the gender equivalent of “You look tired.”

3. Practice and Do What You’re Told

Use Minus 18 to practice using different pronouns and to familiarize yourself with pronouns that are less frequently used. Purchase books that feature characters with varied pronouns. Go old school, and write or type out sentences using the people I invented above (Leslie, Daunte, etc.) to lock in your understanding.

Pronouns are the easiest entry point to gender from an outside perspective, and they’re a convenient way to demonstrate respect and inclusion. Learning how to acknowledge and honor people who use multiple sets of pronouns is another step toward becoming more gender literate and more supportive of the gender-variant people in your life.

Lastly, I’m only one genderqueer person. I’m not the Gender God, nor do I wish to become them. It’s a lot of paperwork. I’m just the genderqueer kid with the blog — not a gender therapist or any other kind of gender professional. Take this with a grain of “I’m only one person, and I don’t know everything.”

Ask your friends, lovers, coworkers, relatives, and rivals about their genders, and you’ll be surprised what you learn. Some folks have given this a lot of thought, and every gender is equally valid.

Thanks for reading.
Oak

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[Joe Molotov]

Dudes are leaving Resetera in droves

[Taco Bell Tower]

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/alleged-rapist-and-former-twitch-streamer-methodjosh-helped-build-an-nft-startup-by-hiding-behind-a-pseudonym.573877/#post-85286503

User Banned (2 Weeks): Concern Trolling Over Sexual Abuse Allegations; Account in Junior Phase

When even NFT scams throw you out, that shows a lot about how much of an asshole you are tbh.

Nah Josh doesnt deserve statements like these. There is no reason to not question why the justice system is so slow with this.

This is the same mindset that has gotten plenty of innocent people convicted, rushing the process is not the answer and never has been. Do all the investigating before conviction. Everybody, no matter the crime, how you feel about them, or allegations has the right to due process.

The context of this is even better:

They really are sending their best* people.

[Translator's Note: "best" means "worst"]

How is this guy not behind bars?

Not defending the person, but being accused or "allegations" is not proof or proven guilty. Best to not condemn before proven guilty.

Nah Josh doesnt deserve statements like these. There is no reason to not question why the justice system is so slow with this.

This is the same mindset that has gotten plenty of innocent people convicted, rushing the process is not the answer and never has been. Do all the investigating before conviction. Everybody, no matter the crime, how you feel about them, or allegations has the right to due process.

He was almost exclusively soliciting and grooming underage women. Don't need to wait for a ineffectively slow judicial system catching up to condemn that.

Imagine chosing method fucking josh as the hill to die on...

There is so much evidence about him being a POS online with pretty much no effort required to find it.

No, it's absolutely fine to judge someone without criminal conviction. Don't be fooled by this rhetoric, not all bad things with proofs get people thrown into jail. Getting judged by society without involvement of the judicial system is absolutely fine and normal

We have literal proof for Josh. There is no wrong mindset here.

Everybody seems to have just missed that Messofanego was once again demanding someone be thrown in prison without trial and the guys replies were responding to this and someone lamenting that the justice system is too slow to put accused people in prison.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/netflix-ceo-now-says-he%E2%80%99s-open-to-a-cheaper-ad-supported-plan.574810/#post-85373650

Someone tell the Netflix CEO that I'm open to him eating my entire asshole.

I literally just cancelled.

[benjipwns]

And while I'm here!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/alleged-rapist-and-former-twitch-streamer-methodjosh-helped-build-an-nft-startup-by-hiding-behind-a-pseudonym.573877/#post-85286503

You know we don't want NFT threads here.

Maybe someone should have announced it somewhere prominent and put in the General Guide rather than burying it as a reply in a deliberately ignored hidden thread in an unvisited section. I understand that the dozens of reports came in from the Will Smith Oscars thread and swamped the staff a few weeks later but still seems like someone might have been able to ignore another night or two of sleep to do this.

[BadAss2961]

All pronouns aside, I hope Ezra keeps his day job of entering the speed force while choking randoms out in his spare time. Just to shorten my day reading the Era threads.

 

[FUME5]

I think we can all agree that the takeaway from this is that not only is roy a fatty fat fat, he's also malding.

[remy]

All pronouns aside, I hope Ezra keeps his day job of entering the speed force while choking randoms out in his spare time. Just to shorten my day reading the Era threads.

 

choking out randoms in their spare time

just letting you know

[BadAss2961]

choking out randoms in their spare time

just letting you know

Editing my post for Roy.

[Uncle]

All pronouns aside, I hope Ezra keeps his day job of entering the speed force while choking randoms out in his spare time. Just to shorten my day reading the Era threads.

 

choking out randoms in their spare time

just letting you know

hey, thanks for this, I'll do better in the future

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/have-you-ever-wondered-what-my-top-40-favorite-episodes-of-mystery-science-theater-3000-are-welp-today-is-your-lucky-day.574864/
 

[benjipwns]

All pronouns aside, I hope Ezra keeps his day job of entering the speed force while choking randoms out in his spare time. Just to shorten my day reading the Era threads.

 

choking out randoms in their spare time

just letting you know

Oof, you're really going to just ignore "their day job"? This is not a good look. Lots to unpack here.

[Taco Bell Tower]

If Ezra Miller is still in the movie when it releases I won't pay money to see it, end of story. I don't care who else is in it or what apologies Ezra makes or what WB says. Thats my decision and right, and I doubt I'm alone in that sentiment.

Its up to WB to decide what to do.

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/have-you-ever-wondered-what-my-top-40-favorite-episodes-of-mystery-science-theater-3000-are-welp-today-is-your-lucky-day.574864/
 

motherfucker, mike nelson was outed as a horrible bigot homophone because he was one of the hosts of audio mullet podcast along with doug tennapel (earthworm jim conservative transphobe homophobe) and ethan nicolle (axe cop conservative transphobe homophobe)

his co-stars of mst3k and rifftrax extracted a public apology from him and forced him to sever public ties with these "friends" of his but this isn't the sort of thing you can escape from so easily

educate yourself, electricblanketfire

[benjipwns]

motherfucker, mike nelson was outed as a horrible bigot homophone because he was one of the hosts of audio mullet podcast along with doug tennapel (earthworm jim conservative transphobe homophobe) and ethan nicolle (axe cop conservative transphobe homophobe)

his co-stars of mst3k and rifftrax extracted a public apology from him and forced him to sever public ties with these "friends" of his but this isn't the sort of thing you can escape from so easily

educate yourself, electricblanketfire

It's worse than that. Mike Nelson himself has been a strong Christian heavily involved in his church and Republican (though Kevin said he was even worse, libertarian-leaning) for years and has refused to repent, renounce and denounce either position. I really don't feel safe with ResetERA.com platforming MST3K or anything else someone who holds these extremist views is involved in. I strongly suspect that Nelson is one of those free-speechers too. We literally cannot risk platforming this kind of hate when the planet is facing permanent global extinction that has the potential of harming Black trans bodies.

[Joe Molotov]

motherfucker, mike nelson was outed as a horrible bigot homophone because he was one of the hosts of audio mullet podcast along with doug tennapel (earthworm jim conservative transphobe homophobe) and ethan nicolle (axe cop conservative transphobe homophobe)

his co-stars of mst3k and rifftrax extracted a public apology from him and forced him to sever public ties with these "friends" of his but this isn't the sort of thing you can escape from so easily

educate yourself, electricblanketfire

It's worse than that. Mike Nelson himself has been a strong Christian heavily involved in his church and Republican (though Kevin said he was even worse, libertarian-leaning) for years and has refused to repent, renounce and denounce either position. I really don't feel safe with ResetERA.com platforming MST3K or anything else someone who holds these extremist views is involved in. I strongly suspect that Nelson is one of those free-speechers too. We literally cannot risk platforming this kind of hate when the planet is facing permanent global extinction that has the potential of harming Black trans bodies.

And possibly a Packers fan.

[benjipwns]

Whoever has the current password to the incelsiorlef account can make a "Nation Magazine Joins The Alt-Right And Starts Platforming Literal Conspiracy Theories About Things That Literally Have Not Happened" thread: https://www.thenation.com/article/society/cancel-culture-exists/

[Kevtones]

Is it possible to be non-observant? As in my gender is that of one unable to determine gender and therefore I calls ‘em as I sees them as a means to focus on the actual topic.

Ethical people must ignore my misgendering because I am simply, and chemically unable to observe gender with any consistency. Therefore, it is those upset or angry at me for misgendering them that are actually misgendering me because my entire gender is predicated around the inability to observe gender.

THAT, is my identity, though it might not be in 5 minutes so please make sure to ask first to remain uncanceled.

[Snoopycat_]

It's weird that all those posters who are making between 60-120k a year are cancelling Netflix over account sharing. Maybe they should cut their butler's hours instead

[Transhuman]

Is it weird to be into armpits? Asking for friend

[SmokyDave]

Gotta say, that Ezra cat is an interesting one. Non-binary, which means everything to them and nothing to anyone else. Queer, but seems to exclusively date cis women.

Sort of seems like they get to keep a whole bunch of white male heterosexual privilege, but also sprinkle some co-opted oppression on top of it. I wonder if they'd still be able to pull it off without the cape-film shield?

[Uncle]

Is it weird to be into armpits? Asking for friend

there's a lot of really good art featuring ladies who have vags where their pits are

[Transhuman]

Art eh

[NekoFever]

Is it weird to be into armpits? Asking for friend

Into armpits or into armpits?

[HaughtyFrank]

If there was any perfect example of why this pronoun thing is the dumbest shit ever.

Nope, sorry, it's pretty much ideal:

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How to Respect People Who Use Multiple Sets of Pronouns

Welcome to Pronoun PEMDAS

Do you remember learning the order of operations for evaluating a math expression in grade school? It was taught as PEMDAS (parentheses, exponents, multiplication, division, addition, and subtraction) or “Please Excuse My Dear Aunt Sally.”

I loved PEMDAS. That process, along with learning my times tables, was the height of my short-lived math career. I appreciated the simplicity and conciseness of the acronym and the fool-proofed feeling of it.

I want to propose a similar concept for people who use multiple pronouns — not for them; they know what they’re doing. But for those of us who don’t use multiple pronouns, an acronym that simplifies why some choose to use more than one set of pronouns and reminds everyone of the importance of respecting them.

Before supplying you with my handy-dandy acronym, let us briefly define the use of multiple pronouns: when any individual utilizes more than one pronoun (ex: she/they, he/she/they, they/it, xe/her, they/fae) to describe themself.

PIDOS

The acronym I propose is PIDOS (preferred, interchangeable, dipping their toes in, occasion-based, and safety net). I like PIDOS because it sounds similar to the Spanish verb for ask, “pedir”, and asking others with an aim to learn, show respect, and create safe spaces, is home base for all gender-related questions.

The following are examples of individuals you may encounter who fall under the various PIDOS categories.

P (preferred)

Meet Erin. Erin uses she/they pronouns. They’re a nonbinary femme and AFAB (assigned female at birth), and they’re not planning to go on T or have any surgeries. Erin uses she/they because they get misgendered frequently enough that it is simply less emotional labor to offer up both pronouns even though they strongly prefer “they.”

If you know Erin’s preferences, use “they” for them. “She” is there because their gender is frequently disrespected, and they’ve made their pronouns clear.

I (interchangeable)

Meet Brady. Brady uses he/she/they pronouns. Brady’s pronouns are interchangeable, and he feels best when his pronouns are mixed around from sentence to sentence. If you’re spending time in public with Brady, it’s wise to make sure she still feels comfortable being gendered with multiple pronouns because it can be an unfortunate risk to their safety.
Brady also may have days or weeks where they prefer one pronoun over another. Check in with her frequently, or set up a system where he can easily let you know if their pronouns have changed.

D (dipping their toe in)

Meet Leslie. Leslie’s pronouns are he/they. Leslie is AMAB (assigned male at birth) and questioning his gender. He is out as questioning to his closest friends, but no one else knows. Leslie is not out to his parents, and his parents don’t suspect anything, so they call Leslie “he.” Leslie is testing out “they” with his two closest friends to see how it makes him feel. He’s dipping his toes into the genderqueer pool.

Unless you’re one of Leslie’s two closest friends, calling him “he” is correct for now. Leslie may reach out to you and ask you to shift to “they,” but until that point, “he” is the right option. If you were to call Leslie “they” without him giving you explicit permission, that could overwhelm him. Gender can be a very private thing, and changing a person’s pronouns without them asking you to do so can cause significant stress and insecurity.

O (occasion-based)

Meet Daunte. Daunte uses he/she/fae pronouns. Daunte is genderfluid and has comfortably been out to most of the people in faer life for several months. Daunte uses “he” at work because fae feel the safest in that label when out in a public-facing position. Fae use “he/she” interchangeably with nearly everyone else in faer life. Daunte is only called “fae” by faer closest friends who know what it means and how to use it properly.

If you know that Daunte occasionally uses fae/faer/faerself pronouns, learn more about how to use faer pronouns correctly, but do not make the shift without checking in with Daunte first. If you work with Daunte, using “fae” at the wrong time could out faer, and that is never okay. You can learn more about all of Daunte’s pronouns without necessarily using all of them.

S (safety net)

Meet Ryan. Ryan uses they/it pronouns. They have been out as transfeminine nonbinary for two years, and they are now introducing “it” into their proper pronouns as the primary option. Because “it” is a lesser known pronoun, Ryan still uses “they” as a safety net option for those are uncomfortable or unfamiliar with it/it/its pronouns.

Calling Ryan “it” after having done your research and checking in will likely be affirming. It doesn’t expect everyone to understand, and it’s happy to talk with you more about how it came to understand it’s gender and subsequently, it’s pronouns. Learning more about neopronouns is a doable and necessary part of becoming more gender literate.

As the saying goes, if you’ve met one trans and/or genderqueer person, you’ve met one trans and/or genderqueer person. Each person who uses multiple pronouns has a different, personalized reason why they do so, and they may or may not be willing to share.

Regardless of how much or how little information you have about another person’s pronouns, there are reliable, loving ways to clarify and meet their needs.

1. Ask

You can ask another person about their pronouns — specifically asking for the basics of which pronouns they use and how they like them to be used. If you were to ask me, I would say, “I use they/them/theirs pronouns. These are the only correct pronouns to use for me, and I want them to be used at all times regardless of who’s around. The only exception to this rule is in short interactions with strangers or acquaintances that we’re unlikely to see again. If the McDonald’s employee calls me ‘sir’ when they hand me our food, I don’t expect nor want anyone to correct them because that isn’t worth it and causes more trouble than it’s worth.”

(I likely wouldn’t be that eloquent or concise, but I’d get somewhat close.)

Remember that it’s no one’s responsibility to justify their usage (or lack) of pronouns to you. They are them, and they know themself best — just like you know you best. You don’t have to know anything more than the basics I outlined above to respect another person and address them correctly, and you can always lead by example by introducing yourself with your pronouns and inviting others to do the same.

2. Check In Intelligently

If you’re unsure of another’s pronouns (whether or not you already know that person and believe that you may know the answer), you can ask at a casual, appropriate time. But, please ask with some decorum. The last thing I want to hear is: “You look like a guy these days. You sure you don’t want me to start using he/him for you?”

That is bad. Don’t do that. Don’t assume.

Gender expression, gender identity, and pronouns are connected, but they aren’t the same. A better, less assumptive way to ask the question you’re getting at would be: “Hey! Gender check: are your pronouns still they/them?”

That’s lighthearted and it doesn’t come from a place of believing you know me better than I do. It also doesn’t point out any part of my presentation as seeming gendered in a way that is “too strong” to be a believable piece of my nonbinary identity.

Put simply, saying I look like a guy makes me question my hair, clothes, posture, and everything else that may have been led you to make that comment. It’s the gender equivalent of “You look tired.”

3. Practice and Do What You’re Told

Use Minus 18 to practice using different pronouns and to familiarize yourself with pronouns that are less frequently used. Purchase books that feature characters with varied pronouns. Go old school, and write or type out sentences using the people I invented above (Leslie, Daunte, etc.) to lock in your understanding.

Pronouns are the easiest entry point to gender from an outside perspective, and they’re a convenient way to demonstrate respect and inclusion. Learning how to acknowledge and honor people who use multiple sets of pronouns is another step toward becoming more gender literate and more supportive of the gender-variant people in your life.

Lastly, I’m only one genderqueer person. I’m not the Gender God, nor do I wish to become them. It’s a lot of paperwork. I’m just the genderqueer kid with the blog — not a gender therapist or any other kind of gender professional. Take this with a grain of “I’m only one person, and I don’t know everything.”

Ask your friends, lovers, coworkers, relatives, and rivals about their genders, and you’ll be surprised what you learn. Some folks have given this a lot of thought, and every gender is equally valid.

Thanks for reading.
Oak

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I could feel my brain rotting away while reading this

I don't understand how they can scream "we deserve the same respect as everyone else" while at the same time demanding exceptionally more caution, attention and check ins than any other person. They don't want to be treated like everyone else, they want to be treated extra special

[D3RANG3D]

People like that need to be shot into the sun strapped to rockets, and no I am not not kidding.

[Potato]

A little bit of shade thrown by the sales nerds

https://www.installbaseforum.com/forums/threads/the-state-of-install-base-financial-report-over-h1-2021-22.718/

As previously mentioned, Install Base B.V. was established on December 9th, 2021 as a limited liability company based in the Netherlands to manage our finances. Although Install Base is currently organized as a taxable entity for simplicity, it is internally structured as a nonprofit charity run by a 100% volunteer staff.

This means that unlike other forums, Install Base will not be sold for a profit, and the legal owners of Install Base BV will not receive disbursements of Install Base's profits to the detriment of everyone else.

[benjipwns]

I could feel my brain rotting away while reading this

I don't understand how they can scream "we deserve the same respect as everyone else" while at the same time demanding exceptionally more caution, attention and check ins than any other person. They don't want to be treated like everyone else, they want to be treated extra special

Amusingly, as much as these people (like the prominent and staff members on ResetERA.com) cling to the belief that most all people constantly operate in bad faith this kind of thing is the weaponizing of other people's good faith to use against them for operating in good faith.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-tweets-liked-by-adam-howden-the-english-voice-of-shulk-from-xenoblade-are-very-problematic-racism-transphobia-anti-semetism-etc.574927/

Even though I usually do these kinds of threads to shine a light on problematic folks, I was kinda worried about the reaction I'd get from Nintendo fans & figured that someone else would do the thread anyway. But weeks have passed & nobody did it, so now I have to do it myself. I would've posted it yesterday, but Xenoblade 3 had a huge info dump & I didn't want to be accused of trying to rain on its parade.

That said, while it's probably too late for Xenoblade 3 (assuming Shulk shows up in that), Shulk's gonna need a recast for future games. But this still stings, & I take no pleasure in making this thread. I guess I can't catch a break these days.

Source: Adam Howden (Twitter, First 4 screenshots compiled by [USER=37918]MondoMega[/USER])

Now I don’t use the word hero lightly, but… 

[benjipwns]

I take no pleasure in making this thread. I guess I can't catch a break these days.

[Uncle]

the Phobic Crimes of Adam Howden

[Polident Hive]

How many people on Earth know who Shulk from Xenoblade is. How many people know the English voice actor for that character. How many people follow that actor on Twitter. How many people regularly check the likes on that Twitter account. How many of those people care. Why is the answer more than zero.

[Snoopycat_]

Messy will be releasing his 500 page dossier on the many, many crimes of Adam Whoever

[thetylerrob]

Rename Resetera to Phobic Beasts And Where to Find Them

[Tuckers Law]

 Tweets with illegal opinions were liked?
 
 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[HaughtyFrank]

How many people on Earth know who Shulk from Xenoblade is. How many people know the English voice actor for that character. How many people follow that actor on Twitter. How many people regularly check the likes on that Twitter account. How many of those people care. Why is the answer more than zero.

I was kinda worried about the reaction I'd get from Nintendo fans & figured that someone else would do the thread anyway. But weeks have passed & nobody did it, so now I have to do it myself.

I love that he was sitting there, wondering why this bombshell news didn't break yet.

[benjipwns]

You don't understand WEEKS HAVE PASSED since the problematic likes were posted on ResetERA.com and nobody made a thread. People were running around ignorant that Adam Howden liked tweets!

[Cauliflower Of Love]

User Banned (Permanent). Misgendering. Refusal to offer correction when confronted with mistake.

 


It's almost as if the mods could edit posts.

[Pissy F Benny]

A little bit of shade thrown by the sales nerds

https://www.installbaseforum.com/forums/threads/the-state-of-install-base-financial-report-over-h1-2021-22.718/

As previously mentioned, Install Base B.V. was established on December 9th, 2021 as a limited liability company based in the Netherlands to manage our finances. Although Install Base is currently organized as a taxable entity for simplicity, it is internally structured as a nonprofit charity run by a 100% volunteer staff.

This means that unlike other forums, Install Base will not be sold for a profit, and the legal owners of Install Base BV will not receive disbursements of Install Base's profits to the detriment of everyone else.

Netherlands eh?

[Pissy F Benny]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-tweets-liked-by-adam-howden-the-english-voice-of-shulk-from-xenoblade-are-very-problematic-racism-transphobia-anti-semetism-etc.574927/

Even though I usually do these kinds of threads to shine a light on problematic folks, I was kinda worried about the reaction I'd get from Nintendo fans & figured that someone else would do the thread anyway. But weeks have passed & nobody did it, so now I have to do it myself. I would've posted it yesterday, but Xenoblade 3 had a huge info dump & I didn't want to be accused of trying to rain on its parade.

That said, while it's probably too late for Xenoblade 3 (assuming Shulk shows up in that), Shulk's gonna need a recast for future games. But this still stings, & I take no pleasure in making this thread. I guess I can't catch a break these days.

Source: Adam Howden (Twitter, First 4 screenshots compiled by [USER=37918]MondoMega[/USER])

Now I don’t use the word hero lightly, but… 

this dude needs to have his head flushed down the toilet and be stuffed in his locker daily for being such a pathetic creepy dork loser

[benjipwns]

Imagine if because there had been no thread created on Adam Howden's liking of tweets someone went and played Xenoblade without knowing what he had done.

[Pissy F Benny]

maybe jk rowling hacked his accounts

[Klelk]

Who knew that when Shulk said "I'm really feeling it" he meant the feeling of punching down on a minority? 
There could be many more video game VAs with problematique liked tweets - I'm sure Resetera's best are investigating to bring these phobic crimes to light

[Taco Bell Tower]

User Banned (Permanent). Misgendering. Refusal to offer correction when confronted with mistake.

 


It's almost as if the mods could edit posts.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ezra-miller-arrested-in-hawaii-for-a-second-time.574762/page-4#post-85378294
They did lol

Mod edit: Pronouns corrected by posters request

[Boredfrom]

Man, how hard they brainwashed Android Sophia after she expressed some concerns over how TransRE behaved itself years ago.

Also, Neoxon being incapable of realizing that maybe there is a problem in his friend circle when he is unable to keep a list of the people getting canceled.

[Joe Molotov]

Who knew that when Shulk said "I'm really feeling it" he meant the feeling of punching down on a minority? 
There could be many more video game VAs with problematique liked tweets - I'm sure Resetera's best are investigating to bring these phobic crimes to light

I guess this was the Monado's power.

[Boredfrom]

That said, while it's probably too late for Xenoblade 3 (assuming Shulk shows up in that), Shulk's gonna need a recast for future games

Such a big fan that he seems clueless about the lore...

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Outside of DLC, I think he only voiced young Zanza/Klaus, isn’t?

[close]

Also, unless he touches someone inappropriately or he is outright racist (no, being antiWillSplap doesn’t count) I seriously doubt Nintendo will replace him because he liking tweets (if anything, that would create a big shitstorm).

[Cauliflower Of Love]

User Banned (Permanent). Misgendering. Refusal to offer correction when confronted with mistake.

 


It's almost as if the mods could edit posts.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ezra-miller-arrested-in-hawaii-for-a-second-time.574762/page-4#post-85378294
They did lol

Mod edit: Pronouns corrected by posters request

wait

Poster asked a mod to edit the post when they could have just edited it themselves?

 

[Joe Molotov]

User Banned (Permanent). Misgendering. Refusal to offer correction when confronted with mistake.

 


It's almost as if the mods could edit posts.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ezra-miller-arrested-in-hawaii-for-a-second-time.574762/page-4#post-85378294
They did lol

Mod edit: Pronouns corrected by posters request

wait

Poster asked a mod to edit the post when they could have just edited it themselves?

 

Posters forcing the mods to do unpaid emotional labor and reinforcing the femme labor paradigm.

[jorma]

User Banned (Permanent). Misgendering. Refusal to offer correction when confronted with mistake.

 


It's almost as if the mods could edit posts.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ezra-miller-arrested-in-hawaii-for-a-second-time.574762/page-4#post-85378294
They did lol

Mod edit: Pronouns corrected by posters request

wait

Poster asked a mod to edit the post when they could have just edited it themselves?

 

come on breh, it's not like he cared about the pronoun, he just wanted the poster to bend the knee

Which is a bit weird admittedly, since the mods on ree never abuse their powers due to all decisions being made by a team of mods.

[Boredfrom]

User Banned (2 Weeks): Concern Trolling Around Highlighting Problematic Behaviour and Cancel Culture; Thread Whining

What's the purpose for this kind of thread? Is it just to inform fans or are we hoping to deplatform him?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-tweets-liked-by-adam-howden-the-english-voice-of-shulk-from-xenoblade-are-very-problematic-racism-transphobia-anti-semetism-etc.574927/page-2#post-85403125

MOTHERFUCKERS DOES CANCEL CULTURE EXISTS OR NOT?

Fucking Neoxon said in the OP “Nintendo is going to need to replace Shulk :'( ” , so the deplatform suggestion didn’t come from nowhere.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/netflix-says-password-sharing-solution-coming-in-a-year-as-they-vow-to-get-back-in-investors-good-graces.574822/#post-85375717

Just cut them loose after about ten years of being subscribed. Feels liberating.

Lot of them announcing they're gonna cancel which I seriously doubt.

I fully believe if whatever 'password sharing' measures Netflix come up with work, it will result in them losing access to their employed parents / siblings accounts

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

The 'dude' drama is straight up virtue signaling, and I hate Era for constantly creating situations where that kind of labeling is appropriate--it has nothing to do with the person being called a dude, it has nothing to do with any transphobia on the part of the person saying it, it's solely to flex the appearance of the only acceptable form of trans-friendliness as dictated by the prominent members of the era trans community over anything else.

FACT CHECK:

But one of the things that is both interesting and infuriating is that staff needs to be cognizant of damn near everything that goes on in the world. Seriously, we should all have geopolitical degrees in order to do this shit.  That’s on top of things like racial injustice, gender inequality…and I’m forgetting something, oh yeah, GAMING industry knowledge.

I am immensely proud of the staff we have for being able to navigate the myriad bullshit that shows up every single day. I am fairly up to speed on gaming and have a general understanding of political issues. But I’m a cis, straight, white, male, so I rely on other staff members to help out for a lot of other things. And I respect their opinion and take it into account before I make any decision (assuming I am the one that needs to make the decision). I’m not gonna whine about how hard it is, but the breadth of topics we have to cover and moderate is not a simple task.

No one, especially not Ezra Miller or some transphobic alt-right troll account, is better informed on this issue than the staff. Their duties wouldn't allow them to be. The fact that they allowed that troll to correct theyself first just shows their far reaching benevolence. (Which unfortunately makes TransERA feel unsafe and causes them to leave in droves.)

Remember, that every single issue is fully researched by the staff (and their accompanying two co-staff to ensure every decision is made in triplicate) to ensure the best possible forum janitorial services that money would refuse to buy.

[HardcoreRetro]

What the fuck is thread whining? Having a discussion?

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Who knew that when Shulk said "I'm really feeling it" he meant the feeling of punching down on a minority? 

I'm really feeling xe/they/them

[Taco Bell Tower]

User Banned (2 Weeks): Concern Trolling Around Highlighting Problematic Behaviour and Cancel Culture; Thread Whining

What's the purpose for this kind of thread? Is it just to inform fans or are we hoping to deplatform him?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-tweets-liked-by-adam-howden-the-english-voice-of-shulk-from-xenoblade-are-very-problematic-racism-transphobia-anti-semetism-etc.574927/page-2#post-85403125

MOTHERFUCKERS DOES CANCEL CULTURE EXISTS OR NOT?

Fucking Neoxon said in the OP “Nintendo is going to need to replace Shulk :'( ” , so the deplatform suggestion didn’t come from nowhere.

It worked

Ugh! God damnit! Why can’t people just stop being hateful bigots! I really hope he isn’t in Xenoblade 3.

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

User Banned (2 Weeks): Concern Trolling Around Highlighting Problematic Behaviour and Cancel Culture; Thread Whining

What's the purpose for this kind of thread? Is it just to inform fans or are we hoping to deplatform him?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-tweets-liked-by-adam-howden-the-english-voice-of-shulk-from-xenoblade-are-very-problematic-racism-transphobia-anti-semetism-etc.574927/page-2#post-85403125

MOTHERFUCKERS DOES CANCEL CULTURE EXISTS OR NOT?

Fucking Neoxon said in the OP “Nintendo is going to need to replace Shulk :'( ” , so the deplatform suggestion didn’t come from nowhere.

*dusts off endlessly reusable gif*

[Boredfrom]

It worked

Only by RE insane standards. L Thammy comparing this shit with Vic Mignona.