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ShutUp

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21840 on: June 07, 2022, 04:20:01 PM »
The fucking insanity to believe words (jokes) will hurt more than families grieving actual deaths via bullets and Dave giving tons of money to help them out. You can only shake your head in awe of these Ree lunatics.

Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21841 on: June 07, 2022, 04:22:24 PM »
The fucking insanity to believe words (jokes) will hurt more than families grieving actual deaths via bullets and Dave giving tons of money to help them out. You can only shake your head in awe of these Ree lunatics.

When it was revealed that Dave gave money to Daphnes kid for college it was like , yea but fuck ooooooof.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21842 on: June 07, 2022, 04:52:49 PM »
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And he can get super fucked because the danger of his transphobia is him constantly pitting trans people and their allies as the bad guys and constantly trying to pit other groups against them. So the idea of him essentially trying to support shooting victims off the back of the trans community makes my blood boil.

They are turning Chapelle into some Lex Luthor-esqe mastermind villain that want to pit black people against trans folks. Are they scared that if Chapelle does charity work for victim of racist violence, or watch his stand-up, black people universally will become transphobic?
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21843 on: June 07, 2022, 05:27:17 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/dan-ryckert-jeff-grubb-lucy-james-and-tamoor-hussain-join-giant-bombs-core-crew.592311/page-6#post-87892710
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Congrats on those who continue to derail when there’s already a thread to speak about the trial and you already know it’s contentious but continue to harangue despite being told to stop
Are you saying we're not allowed to highlight problematic takes in a thread like this? What about if he preached anti-BLM politics? Would it be thread derail because it wasn't posted in the BLM thread?


https://www.resetera.com/threads/dan-ryckert-jeff-grubb-lucy-james-and-tamoor-hussain-join-giant-bombs-core-crew.592311/page-8#post-87901968
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Is defending an abuser like Heard not reason enough to dislike someone?
But defending an abuser like Depp is ok? This trial fried y'alls brains. They can both be shit. Ever wonder why Grubbs tweet bothers you guys so much? Think on that
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Pissy F Benny

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21844 on: June 07, 2022, 05:42:56 PM »
Ree will still be bleating on about this long after both Depp and Heard have gotten over it :society
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21845 on: June 07, 2022, 06:05:06 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/dan-ryckert-jeff-grubb-lucy-james-and-tamoor-hussain-join-giant-bombs-core-crew-see-staff-post.592311/page-9#post-87921012
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The queue has been cleared, the thread unlocked, and Zeo's banner updated.

To be clear, staff are not in the business of trying to protect public figures who say or do contentious things. Grubb said what he said regarding the Depp/Heard trial and has to deal with the consequences, and members are free to discuss his opinions in any relevant threads.

That being said, Zeo has an extensive warning and ban history related specifically to dropping into threads to inflame tensions and start fights; they have also been been noticeably absent from participating in GB threads and those concerning the trial this entire time. These two things did not sit well with staff and we did not we believe they posted Grubb's tweets in good faith. However, owing to the above, we did not feel that banning for posting Grubb's contentious opinions would have been appropriate. Hence why they were warned.

However, staff discussed it further and decided that the warning should have been specifically for concern trolling, not derailing the thread, as Grubb's character is relevant in threads related to Giant Bomb. The banner has been updated to reflect this.

We reiterate: Grubb's opinions are free to discuss in this thread. Disagreements about Zeo's warning and relevant staff action are not; they can be taken to the community thread instead. And a final reminder: the Depp/Heard case has been very contentious. Downplaying any abuse and valid concerns of bad faith actors latching onto the trial will be actioned.

ZeoVGM on notice.

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/dan-ryckert-jeff-grubb-lucy-james-and-tamoor-hussain-join-giant-bombs-core-crew-see-staff-post.592311/#post-87887859
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:cop User warned: Concern trolling around domestic abuse
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21846 on: June 07, 2022, 06:17:50 PM »
Thanks for reading my posts Resetera mods :)

Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21847 on: June 07, 2022, 06:23:55 PM »
Zeo

e: wait I thought it was zero?

  :existential

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21848 on: June 07, 2022, 06:31:22 PM »
The mod explanation sounds somewhat fine at first but then you remember B-dubs dropping a "Don't derail the thread" staff message

https://www.resetera.com/threads/dan-ryckert-jeff-grubb-lucy-james-and-tamoor-hussain-join-giant-bombs-core-crew-see-staff-post.592311/post-87890100

Or that in the Depp/Heard thread Royalan didn't clarify the situation either but just told people to shut up

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We're not allowed to bring up Grubb's problematic stance in the GB hire thread lol
And please don't bring that here.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/johnny-depp-jury-finds-that-amber-heard-defamed-him-in-op-ed.590196/post-87894399


The mods tugged their tail but can't admit it

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21849 on: June 07, 2022, 06:39:11 PM »
https://medium.com/@betterthemask/game-design-in-the-imperial-mode-cgsa-2022-e5a9a6a57859

posting this  :doge oped before era does, so you can pre-emptively :mindblown the parts people who hate gaming now will go "wow so true" about

e:
and no, I'm not going to quote and critique, because the entire fucking thing is :wut and can be broken down into "I am miserable in my job, and here is my rationalisation why (and you should be too)"

I love how these articles conveniently ignore everything outside of the major western publishers and their major "AAA" releases.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21850 on: June 07, 2022, 07:15:50 PM »
Actual good staff message, at least in the context of consistency.  Grubb is not given special treatment despite his industry connections and his Depp/Heard stance is fair game.  The actual message on the trial remains non-committal, but it doesn't really matter in practice since Heard supporters have either been banned or silenced by this point.

I do take issue with designating Zeo as a bad faith actor just trying to stir shit.  Not because I don't believe, but because that has never before been something staff cared about.  People (regular participants or not) could go into any thread they want regarding a problematic entity and bait people into bans with no consequences.  It's telling that the first time they have a problem with it is a male victim with a female abuser broadcasting his truth.

Averon

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21851 on: June 07, 2022, 07:34:23 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/nyt-finally-accepts-their-responsibility-to-society-jk-they-gave-an-op-ed-to-someone-claiming-theres-a-lack-of-christianity-in-the-modern-gop.592527/#post-87926070

B-Dumbs is finally getting tired of incelorief's dumb, spammy threads.

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If you want to have the thread, try an actual thread title instead of the clickbait and lay off the Twitter randoms/random-ass substacks to make your argument for you.


Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21852 on: June 07, 2022, 07:41:00 PM »
taking her thread making privileges would solve that so fast

Snoopycat_

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21853 on: June 07, 2022, 07:57:59 PM »
That permaban is coming. Luckily for Excel she has about 20 alts. Noticed during the last ban some weird randos suddenly appeared with the same Twitter bullshit she specialises in

Averon

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21854 on: June 07, 2022, 08:28:43 PM »
What will incelorief do with herself if she can't spam threads about how some newspaper op-ed/Twitter post is, like, totally wrong and every needs to know it, and everyone needs to react to her "wacky and quirky" thread titles!

« Last Edit: June 07, 2022, 09:06:05 PM by Averon »

Snoopycat_

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21855 on: June 07, 2022, 08:45:22 PM »
Probably re-write Orwell's novels. Adding puns and correcting all the concepts she didn't understand but knows he was wrong about anyway

ShutUp

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21856 on: June 07, 2022, 08:48:09 PM »
Actual good staff message, at least in the context of consistency.  Grubb is not given special treatment despite his industry connections and his Depp/Heard stance is fair game.  The actual message on the trial remains non-committal, but it doesn't really matter in practice since Heard supporters have either been banned or silenced by this point.

I do take issue with designating Zeo as a bad faith actor just trying to stir shit.  Not because I don't believe, but because that has never before been something staff cared about.  People (regular participants or not) could go into any thread they want regarding a problematic entity and bait people into bans with no consequences.  It's telling that the first time they have a problem with it is a male victim with a female abuser broadcasting his truth.

They have a problem with it solely for that reason but do not want to flat out say so because of the rage that would ensue from members. Just keep dancing around it instead.

Look at this shit

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Anyone posting GIFs or any random Tweets from Twitter randos will be permanently threadbanned, you will not be allowed back in under any circumstances. If you want to post news, use legitimate sources of information. Don't use your favorite Twitter follow, we don't care how smart you think they are.

The thread has progressed past the need for twitter randos opinions/non news personalities, no more non news sources

Apparently Jeff Grubb, who is constantly having threads made about things he says about upcoming Xbox games and seems to have sources, is now just a rando on Twitter no one there even knows.

Just also ignore Grubb now being part of the new Giantbomb team.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2022, 08:52:18 PM by ShutUp »

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21857 on: June 07, 2022, 08:54:23 PM »
Chappelle was good in the Norm special. Never associated the two, aside from being two big comics in the industry. Initially believed it to be Netflix throwing its weight around. From it it’s easy to see why he’s revered among the comedian class. That’s got nothing to do with anything specific. But I understand why comedians almost always have his back.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21858 on: June 07, 2022, 08:56:18 PM »
Actual good staff message, at least in the context of consistency.  Grubb is not given special treatment despite his industry connections and his Depp/Heard stance is fair game.  The actual message on the trial remains non-committal, but it doesn't really matter in practice since Heard supporters have either been banned or silenced by this point.

I do take issue with designating Zeo as a bad faith actor just trying to stir shit.  Not because I don't believe, but because that has never before been something staff cared about.  People (regular participants or not) could go into any thread they want regarding a problematic entity and bait people into bans with no consequences.  It's telling that the first time they have a problem with it is a male victim with a female abuser broadcasting his truth.

They know they can throw Zeo over the bus because everyone hates him and know he is a bad actor most of the time. Of course, they are going to pretend they never enabled zeo behavior or that they give him again a slap in the wrist.

Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21859 on: June 07, 2022, 08:58:46 PM »
Actual good staff message, at least in the context of consistency.  Grubb is not given special treatment despite his industry connections and his Depp/Heard stance is fair game.  The actual message on the trial remains non-committal, but it doesn't really matter in practice since Heard supporters have either been banned or silenced by this point.

I do take issue with designating Zeo as a bad faith actor just trying to stir shit.  Not because I don't believe, but because that has never before been something staff cared about.  People (regular participants or not) could go into any thread they want regarding a problematic entity and bait people into bans with no consequences.  It's telling that the first time they have a problem with it is a male victim with a female abuser broadcasting his truth.

They have a problem with it solely for that reason but do not want to flat out say so because of the rage that would ensue from members. Just keep dancing around it instead.

Look at this shit

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Anyone posting GIFs or any random Tweets from Twitter randos will be permanently threadbanned, you will not be allowed back in under any circumstances. If you want to post news, use legitimate sources of information. Don't use your favorite Twitter follow, we don't care how smart you think they are.

The thread has progressed past the need for twitter randos opinions/non news personalities, no more non news sources

Apparently Jeff Grubb, who is constantly having threads made about things he says about upcoming Xbox games and seems to have sources, is now just a rando on Twitter no one there even knows.

Just also ignore Grubb now being part of the new Giantbomb team.

it's gonna be crazy when conan, the anchor of all comedy comes crashing down.

ShutUp

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21860 on: June 07, 2022, 09:26:06 PM »
Holy shit we’re getting a second Joker movie. Let the Era hate begin again  :rejoice

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21861 on: June 07, 2022, 09:27:38 PM »
How is Grubb, a fat dork I remember from the 1UP days, a contentious figure on era in the year 2022.

Fucking nerds man.

Hap Shaughnessy

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21862 on: June 07, 2022, 09:27:43 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/johnny-depp-jury-finds-that-amber-heard-defamed-him-in-op-ed.590196/page-32#post-87927795

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She's no angel, but it's public knowledge that Depp is a shitty, shitty person with so much more clout and money than her, that it's hardly surprising to me with how public this trial was that public favor was massively vouching for him.

It's the myth of the perfect victim. That's what society expects of abuse survivors, to fit into this mold where they were completely at the mercy of their abuser at all times, never raising a finger to stop the violence they were subject to.

Not to mention conservative media was actively pushing a very specific narrative through advertising.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/3ab3yk/daily-wire-amber-heard-johnny-depp

The most upsetting thing to me is that this ruling means that articles like Heard's op-ed, which never named Depp, can now be legally argued as defamatory. It's an incredibly upsetting verdict.

Post has been deleted. It only appears in quotes.

Edit: Not banned.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/destiny-2-season-of-the-haunted-ot-you-reap-what-you-crow.588857/page-9#post-87543246

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/johnny-depp-jury-finds-that-amber-heard-defamed-him-in-op-ed.590196/page-32#post-87930432
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A member's posts have been deleted by request, as well as any posts subsequently quoting them and their story.

 ???
 

« Last Edit: June 07, 2022, 10:09:44 PM by Hap Shaughnessy »
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21863 on: June 07, 2022, 09:31:30 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/dave-chappelle-donates-proceeds-from-buffalo-show-to-shooting-victims-their-families.592458/

Already off to a good start

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Not gonna blast him for this but let’s see some money for the trans people he’s insulting

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How many Trans jokes did he make during the show? Is it more than zero? Fuck him, then. No, you don't get to buy your way into people's good graces.

I can't believe he did this during pride month!
In Reeeeesetera land, insults=bullets
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Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21864 on: June 07, 2022, 09:38:59 PM »
Holy shit we’re getting a second Joker movie. Let the Era hate begin again  :rejoice
WAT!?@?@?@!?!?!

Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21865 on: June 07, 2022, 09:40:14 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/johnny-depp-jury-finds-that-amber-heard-defamed-him-in-op-ed.590196/page-32#post-87927795

Quote from: Trisc
Abuse survivors that fight back and try to protect themselves when cornered, who are put into positions where they feel trapped and have to keep their abusers at arm's length to keep themselves safe, are often vilified like Heard. She's no angel, but it's public knowledge that Depp is a shitty, shitty person with so much more clout and money than her, that it's hardly surprising to me with how public this trial was that public favor was massively vouching for him.

It's the myth of the perfect victim. That's what society expects of abuse survivors, to fit into this mold where they were completely at the mercy of their abuser at all times, never raising a finger to stop the violence they were subject to.

Not to mention conservative media was actively pushing a very specific narrative through advertising.
https://www.vice.com/en/article/3ab3yk/daily-wire-amber-heard-johnny-depp

The most upsetting thing to me is that this ruling means that articles like Heard's op-ed, which never named Depp, can now be legally argued as defamatory. It's an incredibly upsetting verdict.

Post has been deleted. It only appears in quotes.

Edit: Not banned.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/destiny-2-season-of-the-haunted-ot-you-reap-what-you-crow.588857/page-9#post-87543246

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/johnny-depp-jury-finds-that-amber-heard-defamed-him-in-op-ed.590196/page-32#post-87930432
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A member's posts have been deleted by request, as well as any posts subsequently quoting them and their story.

 ???
 




remember when they said they don't have the technology to do this?

ShutUp

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21866 on: June 07, 2022, 09:40:41 PM »
Yup. More Joaquin greatness incoming  :rejoice

ShutUp

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21867 on: June 07, 2022, 09:42:27 PM »
They deleted a post and the posts quoting it  :lol most definitely a prominent members alt

Hap Shaughnessy

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21868 on: June 07, 2022, 09:44:10 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/todd-phillips-teases-joker-2-script.592557/page-4#post-87930792

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Damn, I didn't know Era hated the first one so much.
Era predicted that the first one would lead to some sort of incel uprising.

Absolute clown shit.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21869 on: June 07, 2022, 09:48:37 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/johnny-depp-jury-finds-that-amber-heard-defamed-him-in-op-ed.590196/page-32#post-87931248
Quote from: Trisc
I've been in abusive relationships before...


https://www.resetera.com/threads/johnny-depp-jury-finds-that-amber-heard-defamed-him-in-op-ed.590196/page-32#post-87930738
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A member's posts have been deleted by request, as well as any posts subsequently quoting them and their story.
To clarify, if those posts were found to break the rules, will they still be actioned appropriately?

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/johnny-depp-jury-finds-that-amber-heard-defamed-him-in-op-ed.590196/page-32#post-87931371
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Staff are discussing that now.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2022, 09:58:04 PM by Hap Shaughnessy »
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Averon

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21870 on: June 07, 2022, 10:07:45 PM »
When did mods allow users to have their posts deleted in a "sensitive" thread? It's usually the opposite. Someone posts something dumb or not "mod approved", edit their post, then mods comes in to undo the edit and ban the user. And they are doing this for a nobody at that. Is Trisc a mod alt account? :lol
« Last Edit: June 07, 2022, 11:30:30 PM by Averon »

Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21871 on: June 07, 2022, 10:10:42 PM »
When did mods allow users to have their poss deleted in a "sensitive" thread? It's usually the opposite. Someone posts something dumb or not "mod approved", edit their post, then mods comes in to undo the edit and ban the user. And they are doing this for a nobody at that. Is Trisc a mod alt account? :lol

it's too *checks notes* impossible and tech intensive!

Hap Shaughnessy

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21872 on: June 07, 2022, 10:15:43 PM »
When did mods allow users to have their poss deleted in a "sensitive" thread? It's usually the opposite. Someone posts something dumb or not "mod approved", edit their post, then mods comes in to undo the edit and ban the user. And they are doing this for a nobody at that. Is Trisc a mod alt account? :lol

it's too *checks notes* impossible and tech intensive!

Can you edit out the first sentence out Trisc's post in the quote, please?
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21873 on: June 07, 2022, 10:20:14 PM »
It's infuriating seeing people refer to Heard as an "imperfect victim" when she's a pretty white blonde woman. Meanwhile Depp is a drug addict, and a man. And an actual victim.

Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21874 on: June 07, 2022, 10:20:15 PM »
Let me check with the MOAB board, I'm not sure of their stance on MOARBING posts.

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Cauliflower Of Love

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21875 on: June 07, 2022, 10:20:51 PM »
It's infuriating seeing people refer to Heard as an "imperfect victim" when she's a pretty white blonde woman. Meanwhile Depp is a drug addict, and a man. And an actual victim.

tbf she's imperfect cause she ugly

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21876 on: June 07, 2022, 10:27:41 PM »
she's imperfect because she thought it was a good idea to star in aquaman
Uncle

Boredfrom

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21877 on: June 07, 2022, 10:53:38 PM »
she's imperfect because she thought it was a good idea to star in aquaman

One of the highest grossing superhero films of all time?

Vertigo

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21878 on: June 07, 2022, 11:02:29 PM »
Lol they said the reason for the delete was because that person revealed personal information?

Can't see any of that in that quote

 :nothing

Gotta be a mod alt.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21879 on: June 07, 2022, 11:03:27 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/wapo-reporter-dave-weigel-suspended-one-month-for-retweeting-sexist-biphobic-ableist-joke-journalists-are-not-happy.592122/page-3#post-87885219
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While I agree wholly with Sonmez here and Weigel needs to be gone, just a point of note. Moira Donegan whose tweet is in the OP, is also the person who wrote an entire article in the guardian siding with abuser Amber Heard and how supporting Depp is misogyny. Not sure if she needs to be highlighted in the OP here. She has no credibility as a journalist after that totally nonsensical article.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/johnny-depp-jury-finds-that-amber-heard-defamed-him-in-op-ed.590196/page-29#post-87883377

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One after another, the leftist YouTubers I subscribe to have taken Heard's side in this case, and express their dismay at the outcome and its ramifications. Most of these weren't a huge loss, and of course I can do without all of them.
But one show that I enjoy immensely is Some More News, and now Cody and Katy have come out as being wholly on the side of Heard in this case. I don't really think I can trust their intellectual rigour when it comes to their video subjects when they so obviously put it aside in a case like this.
That is the fucked up part, the moment you doubt some of their content, you end up questioning if all the content has the same problem.
This case shows that the only protection against this is to have access to the source, not the opinions. And unfortunately, it takes a lot of work and hours of free time that we often don't have.
On the one hand, it's unfortunate that they're just turning their witch hunt behavior onto new targets who they once considered allies. On the other hand, none of the people they're doing it to so far are good people. Very complex moral situation.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #21880 on: June 07, 2022, 11:07:00 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/johnny-depp-jury-finds-that-amber-heard-defamed-him-in-op-ed.590196/page-32#post-87927795

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The most upsetting thing to me is that this ruling means that articles like Heard's op-ed, which never named Depp, can now be legally argued as defamatory. It's an incredibly upsetting verdict.
I know all the idiots who are saying this are just getting it from Twitter Blue Checks who don't understand how the legal system works and think they're making a smart sophisticated take on the "greater picture" like that Adam Davidson idiot but I'd really like to see one of them try to explain how this is the case other than "well, somebody might get the idea to do it now" which seems to imply that the person thinks all court cases should be sealed and the public shouldn't be allowed to know about them under threat of penalty.

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« Reply #21881 on: June 07, 2022, 11:17:18 PM »
I just like seeing how now they are doing a revaluation  of every single idiot from Breadtube that they promoted like all knowing saviors.

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« Reply #21882 on: June 07, 2022, 11:24:55 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/johnny-depp-jury-finds-that-amber-heard-defamed-him-in-op-ed.590196/page-32#post-87927795

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The most upsetting thing to me is that this ruling means that articles like Heard's op-ed, which never named Depp, can now be legally argued as defamatory. It's an incredibly upsetting verdict.
I know all the idiots who are saying this are just getting it from Twitter Blue Checks who don't understand how the legal system works and think they're making a smart sophisticated take on the "greater picture" like that Adam Davidson idiot but I'd really like to see one of them try to explain how this is the case other than "well, somebody might get the idea to do it now" which seems to imply that the person thinks all court cases should be sealed and the public shouldn't be allowed to know about them under threat of penalty.
What's always missing in these takes is that "articles like Heard's op-ed, which never named Depp, can now be legally argued as defamatory" is incorrect.

Articles like Heard's ARE defamatory. It was argued and proven in court. The precedent has been set.

Don't make baseless public accusations if you can't back it up with some evidence, and certainly don't if there's evidence that you're lying maliciously.
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« Reply #21883 on: June 07, 2022, 11:32:01 PM »
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The dogpiles and the calls for punishment aren't doing anyone any good. They never did.

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Agree and I'd like to say that troll or no, 10:1 dogpiles don't do anyone any good. imo that's part of how we got here with insular, reality-warping communities.


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Come on, this is some thought police nonsense. If you post something then think better of it and ask for it to be deleted, just move on. Why do you need them banned?

People are dog piled constantly, never given the chance to “think better of it” and have it deleted and then allowed to move on and keep posting. Once more, in this instance of a thread discussing a male abuse victim, they allow shit never ever allowed otherwise on there. Fuck all the way off.

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« Reply #21884 on: June 07, 2022, 11:41:13 PM »
There was at least one other post.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/johnny-depp-jury-finds-that-amber-heard-defamed-him-in-op-ed.590196/page-32#post-87931248
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I've been in abusive relationships before...

There was more that I edited out. In this case, I'm fine with cutting them some slack.
« Last Edit: June 07, 2022, 11:58:59 PM by Hap Shaughnessy »
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« Reply #21885 on: June 07, 2022, 11:46:14 PM »
What's always missing in these takes is that "articles like Heard's op-ed, which never named Depp, can now be legally argued as defamatory" is incorrect.

Articles like Heard's ARE defamatory. It was argued and proven in court. The precedent has been set.
No, no precedent was set. You can't cite D*pp v. Heard in any other case. This is the same mistake those Blue Checks and this random member who was able to have their actionable posts deleted made.

This was always the case. D*pp was able to use Heard's actions Twitter bots and TikTok influencers to convince a jury that he got over the defamation burdens. Anyone could have done this if they had a similar case and didn't care about the cost to achieve it. It's probably happened in the past but didn't involve two billion dollar franchise celebrities.

The activists don't have a fear about a precedent, they don't even care about the specifics of the case, they have a fear that the publicity of this case will cause other people who are wrongfully accused to fight back rather than give up. That's why they're spending all their energy on delegitimizing the process. They're afraid they'll follow another Heard into another D*pp situation.

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« Reply #21886 on: June 08, 2022, 12:30:32 AM »
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The dogpiles and the calls for punishment aren't doing anyone any good. They never did.

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Agree and I'd like to say that troll or no, 10:1 dogpiles don't do anyone any good. imo that's part of how we got here with insular, reality-warping communities.


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Come on, this is some thought police nonsense. If you post something then think better of it and ask for it to be deleted, just move on. Why do you need them banned?

People are dog piled constantly, never given the chance to “think better of it” and have it deleted and then allowed to move on and keep posting. Once more, in this instance of a thread discussing a male abuse victim, they allow shit never ever allowed otherwise on there. Fuck all the way off.

Bro, Depp is a fucking asshole.

Anyone who says that shouldn't be banned and furthermore, banning someone for something they edit or delete is stupid.

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« Reply #21887 on: June 08, 2022, 12:30:49 AM »
Zeo

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  :existential
Went from Zeo to Zero :dice

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« Reply #21888 on: June 08, 2022, 12:41:51 AM »
she's imperfect because she thought it was a good idea to star in aquaman

I am so angry that during the whole trial it was never mentioned that Aquaman is 65% on RT. They kept calling it the pivotal role in her acting career. What??

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« Reply #21889 on: June 08, 2022, 01:41:25 AM »
Zeo

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ZeroVagine is the preferred nomenclature  :snob
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« Reply #21891 on: June 08, 2022, 04:59:53 AM »
Don't any of them know that there was a study that claimed that all women are bi (or gay)? Like that's the starting premise, not that they're all "sluts"

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/love-sex/women-are-never-straight-they-are-either-gay-or-bisexual-study-suggests-a6723276.html

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« Reply #21892 on: June 08, 2022, 05:04:03 AM »
One of Spiers' many unhinged replies in that thread, that she will delete as usual since she purges all her tweets regularly so nobody can use them against her, uses almost the literal wording that incelsiorlef did:
https://twitter.com/espiers/status/1533989813061304320

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« Reply #21893 on: June 08, 2022, 05:25:59 AM »
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This is correct. I was primarily thinking of the people in my life who had never cared about domestic abuse until it happened to an actor they liked. My stance on this case is that I'm desperately weirded out and scared of the people who are obsessed with it. I've seen it used -- again by people in my own personal life -- as a weapon to attack things they don't like.

What is frustrating here is that nowhere in my tweets did I defend Heard. I was never speaking about her. I legit do not care about her or Depp. Their relationship seems complicated, and I don't personally feel equipped to pass judgment on it in the same way that I would not watch my neighbor's divorce proceedings.

I was only ever talking about a group of bad-faith actors who are using the trial to attack the credibility of #metoo. If this isn't you, then I'm sorry that I made it seem that way. If this isn't the first time you've ever cared about the victim of domestic abuse, then I'm genuinely relieved.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/dan-ryckert-jeff-grubb-lucy-james-and-tamoor-hussain-join-giant-bombs-core-crew-see-staff-post.592311/post-87938931

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« Reply #21894 on: June 08, 2022, 05:36:58 AM »
"But feel free to show me your evidence that women are crazy"

*points at twitter profile*

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« Reply #21895 on: June 08, 2022, 05:43:05 AM »
The Grubb speaks!

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This is correct. I was primarily thinking of the people in my life who had never cared about domestic abuse until it happened to an actor they liked. My stance on this case is that I'm desperately weirded out and scared of the people who are obsessed with it. I've seen it used -- again by people in my own personal life -- as a weapon to attack things they don't like.

What is frustrating here is that nowhere in my tweets did I defend Heard. I was never speaking about her. I legit do not care about her or Depp. Their relationship seems complicated, and I don't personally feel equipped to pass judgment on it in the same way that I would not watch my neighbor's divorce proceedings.

I was only ever talking about a group of bad-faith actors who are using the trial to attack the credibility of #metoo. If this isn't you, then I'm sorry that I made it seem that way. If this isn't the first time you've ever cared about the victim of domestic abuse, then I'm genuinely relieved.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/dan-ryckert-jeff-grubb-lucy-james-and-tamoor-hussain-join-giant-bombs-core-crew-see-staff-post.592311/post-87938931
This isn't slick in the slightest. :lol

How is that the context of the tweet ZeoVGM posted?!?
https://twitter.com/JeffGrubb/status/1526257191803449344

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« Reply #21896 on: June 08, 2022, 05:54:58 AM »
User Banned (2 Weeks): Misgendering

When did entertainment have to include only the most well-behaved members of society?

Not that I believe in the justice system or anything, but can we not just let Miller deal with the legal ramifications of what's going on and leave the movies alone? He's one of the better things to come from rhe Snyderverse and no one's gonna care in 5 years if he got arrested a few times over some nonsense.

People are acting like all their favourite pieces of media would exist if rhey just removed everyone with an objectionable personal life. It's Hollywood, not a public service. Maybe direct your righteousness to elected officials and not fucking actors, jeez.

Also:
Yall gotta rush in with your hot takes and poor jokes. Can’t be bothered to read and not misgender Ezra despite it being in the thread title and OP.

Classy.
THANKS MOM :popular

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« Reply #21897 on: June 08, 2022, 05:55:57 AM »
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I don't mind the look of the protagonist. More interested in seeing how his character is written. Genuinely excited about this.
Really? You actually care about the character of the character, and not just their skin color and gender? That’s stupid.
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« Reply #21898 on: June 08, 2022, 05:59:52 AM »

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« Reply #21899 on: June 08, 2022, 06:29:08 AM »
she's imperfect because she thought it was a good idea to star in aquaman

I am so angry that during the whole trial it was never mentioned that Aquaman is 65% on RT. They kept calling it the pivotal role in her acting career. What??

to be fair they didn't specify the pivot from what to what
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