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« Reply #27780 on: August 23, 2022, 02:01:16 AM »
Just speculating, but I wonder if the slight (very slight) reduction in the acceptance of overt racism fueled gamergate as the chuds shifted to anti-feminism.

Lol, I feel like there's a good argument to be made that the enthusiast press's circling of wagons around their friend Phil Fish is what started the gamergate idea-ball rolling, eventually catalyzing around Dorito Pope and growing out of control from there with grifters like Zoe Quinn and Anita Sarkeesian.
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« Reply #27781 on: August 23, 2022, 02:19:50 AM »
The vast majority of Era posters are horrible videogame historians. When you use Nier Gesault as an example of how Western media had an anti Japanese agenda  :lol :lol :lol

The main shift was Western/European developed console games were more consistent in quality, while Japanesw console games that weren't first party Nintendo games were a lot more inconsistent. Nintendo was incredibly successful, Capcom fared mostly well, Sega did ok, every other Japanese publisher tho?

Japanese developed handheld games were often critically acclaimed or cult classics.
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« Reply #27782 on: August 23, 2022, 02:56:47 AM »
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what is the morally correct choice here? me, i dont want a dog/cat interrupting
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« Reply #27783 on: August 23, 2022, 03:16:06 AM »
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what is the morally correct choice here? me, i dont want a dog/cat interrupting
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« Reply #27784 on: August 23, 2022, 04:08:18 AM »
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what is the morally correct choice here? me, i dont want a dog/cat interrupting
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Have it wait in the corner of the room and call it over for cleanup.
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« Reply #27785 on: August 23, 2022, 06:09:28 AM »
The vast majority of Era posters are horrible videogame historians. When you use Nier Gesault as an example of how Western media had an anti Japanese agenda  :lol :lol :lol

The main shift was Western/European developed console games were more consistent in quality, while Japanesw console games that weren't first party Nintendo games were a lot more inconsistent. Nintendo was incredibly successful, Capcom fared mostly well, Sega did ok, every other Japanese publisher tho?

Japanese developed handheld games were often critically acclaimed or cult classics.
It was a misunderstanding of the Japanese of what had happened. First, their old timers refused to retire and innovate then suddenly seemingly out of nowhere big hits like GTA4 and Call of Duty emerged.
Inafune said things like: "Japan is over" and they honestly believed it and started to outsource things to the west or started using Unreal Engine because that was 'better'.

What they didn't understand until much later is that a lot of great western games weren't "new" they were simply adapted from earlier console and PC games.
It was more or less a perfect storm of consoles like the Xbox 360 adapting the PC architecture, developers like BioWare and Epic Games making consoles their primary platform plus tons and tons of marketing.
The latter was mostly effective in covering up the many failures of western developers like Rare, Midway, Junction Point, Lionhead, Westwood and many others.
Some of the games that were hits also had very long development cycles or were simply ported over from the OG Xbox while the Japanese were still churning out PS2 hits very late into its lifecycle.

That it was all a fluke was clear once the dust settled. Cliffy B never got another hit as big as Gear of War, Jade Raymond 'retired' into desk jobs for most her career, Square Enix sold Eidos for peanuts and Ken Levine ran into a wall with Bioshock Infinite.
All in all the western publishers and developers quickly ran everything into the ground with their hubris. Once they started focusing on game development again the Japanese developers quickly caught up.
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« Reply #27786 on: August 23, 2022, 06:16:19 AM »
I was wondering how Kyuuji and that mob were going to turn this topic into another thread about that terf bitch Rowling, but somehow they managed to go even further -

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This is why I bristle at the UK getting called terf Island. Despite all the culture war from people in power, polling suggests that the UK populace is among one of the more queer friendly places to live.

Japan on the other hand still rates pretty darn low on that front. It's a very homophobic and transphobic country, with positive representation being embodied in decades old stereotypes.

Japan is the real terf island.


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Not sure why this is necessary here. It's not a race to the bottom and there's well documented analysis when it comes to how broad the coordination is against trans rights in the UK. The moniker is a perjorative put toward it in disdain, commonly by trans people, and signals the fact that there's a strong vein of second wave feminism involved in the attack. There's zero reason to bristle at it.

The incel thinks women have turned the UK into JK

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« Reply #27787 on: August 23, 2022, 06:32:39 AM »
Is Terf Island next to Tingle Island?

It sounds like a decent rebrand for the UK tbh :idont
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« Reply #27788 on: August 23, 2022, 06:48:30 AM »
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Not sure why this is necessary here. It's not a race to the bottom and there's well documented analysis when it comes to how broad the coordination is against trans rights in the UK. The moniker is a perjorative put toward it in disdain, commonly by trans people, and signals the fact that there's a strong vein of second wave feminism involved in the attack. There's zero reason to bristle at it.

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He just gave you a reason

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Despite all the culture war from people in power, polling suggests that the UK populace is among one of the more queer friendly places to live.

People like Kyuuji seem not too different from doomposters. They just want things to be the absolute worst

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« Reply #27789 on: August 23, 2022, 06:56:27 AM »
If Kyuuji and co weren't being genocided and terrorized every second of the day they'd have time to reflect on what sort of people they are. That wouldn't go well.

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« Reply #27790 on: August 23, 2022, 07:14:39 AM »
again...90% of the world is terf island

if you don't hear a country's hateful bigoted speech joining the throngs online, it's because they don't have widespread internet access and are assuredly living in the 80s or 90s in terms of social issues
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« Reply #27791 on: August 23, 2022, 08:48:52 AM »
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I have no idea why people who have proper access to birth control and abortion still have children nowadays. There’s a lot of reasons why it’s an absolutely absurd idea, with this being a big one. Even if you could afford it, you should be adopting anyway.

I feel for those who don’t have those proper access and are basically forced into giving birth, though. It’s just going to keep those people in poverty forever, which is by design. It’s all very depressing


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Even if you want kids, there’s tons of children in adoption agencies and in the federal system, lots of options to adopt internationally. It’s just…crazy to think that you have to biologically have a kid even if you want to have one. Pure fucking madness, literally.


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If you want kids, your first option should always be to try adoption. If you can’t afford that, then you probably can’t really afford to have a kid anyway and you’re actively bringing a human being into a world that looks currently to have no real future. But obviously I’m talking in the context for those who can afford to have children and have the proper access. Those who are basically forced into birth and don’t have those accesses are a wildly different conversation


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Saying poor people shouldn't have kids because they are poor is absolutely mind-blowing to me. If you are on the way to financial stability and you can wait a year or two to save up an extra $10-20k or pay off some loans first, sure. But for those in poverty and stuck there, saying they are irresponsible or are "pure fucking mad" for wanting a family is over the top to me.

This is why social constructs need to exist like free day-care, child tax credits, etc. But if I were in poverty, I wouldn't be holding my breath for that.

So to then say, "well they shouldn't have kids," is a really fucked up line of thinking IMO. Basically gate keeping reproductive rights behind wealth.
There’s really noting mind-blowing about it. You’re right, all of those things should exist, but they don’t and there is no indication that they will in any reasonable amount of time.

And if you actually read my post, I wasn’t gate keeping anything behind wealth. I was very clear: I don’t think anyone should be having kids, including those that can afford it. I said if you can afford it and you absolutely feel you have to have a spawn, you should be adopting.

You also ignored another thing I said, the most important thing: we are entering a time period where climate change is already started to ravage society, so I don’t know, maybe it’s a little more fucked up that people are bringing more people into a world that is overcrowded where civilization as we know it is cracking at the edges, fascism is having a comeback tour and all they’re going to be growing up to is a world on fire where a large portion of them are going to bake alive.

Sorry if I can’t find much reason to have kids if you actually can prevent it and aren’t being forced into that situation


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It’s more than just the expense, it’s also about what the world is like now just the grim future we now face. Anyone just now being born is going to most likely come to age in a world that is terrible and a society that has either collapsed or on the verge of it.

I get you, though, there is a part of me that would love to have a kid, too. If I were financially stable and had a steady partner, I may even look into adopting. But as far as having a child biologically, it’s an easy decision as long as that decision is in my own hands and not being forced of me.


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This is the argumentative equivalent of putting your finger in someone’s face and when they call it out you say “But I’m not touching you!”

There’s nothing wrong with people having kids. Give me a break. The economy is fucked because the top .0001% want ALL the crumbs.
Yeah, that’s obviously true as well. Who said it wasn’t? But either way, the economy is fucked regardless of the reason and we’re entering a new gilded age of extreme poverty, plus fascism on the rise, and then there’s climate catastrophe. All of these things can be true together.


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I'm sure you champion all the right mentalities to create wealth equality and help solve the climate (not being facetious) so I'll drop it after just saying my final piece that a person choosing to have a kid is not dooming the world or causing it to spiral any more out of control. The real tools to fix our issues as a species are not population control and I think you know that. If as a personal decision, you want to not have kids and bring them into a world that is struggling, I totally understand that. But let's not call people "literally fucking mad" or act like people should forgo a basic human right under the guise of them actively contributing to global catastrophe by having kids.
I don’t know, it does feel mad to me honestly. I just can’t really imagine looking at the future that is in front of us and thinking it’s a good idea to have a kid. I understand the drive and desire, as I said, I feel it myself at times. But I couldn’t even imagine looking at a newborn and thinking, ‘By the time you’re an adult, democracy worldwide will probably be dead and what’s left will be a boiling world with a civilization that I can’t imagine what it will be the shape of.’

But yes, I think besides this personal outlook, we are largely on the same page. If all of those things you listed before existed, I’d feel differently probably, though I’d still feel bad for the kid since all of that still wouldn’t really help climate change, but I could at least understand giving into that desire. But I really just think we’re passed a point where they will tbh.


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In all of my posts here that at no point do I actually say anything about having less kids is going to help the future. My argument is about why it’s a terrible idea to bring more kids in this world with the future we’re looking at, not that having less is going to have a meaningful impact on said future.

Just like the poster who said I should be blaming the top 1% for the broken economy, you’re assuming I’m trying to make an argument about individual responsibility. I 100% agree that the economy is broken because of the rich folks and I 100% agree that corporations are the driving force why our climate future looks grim. But regardless of the reasons, the future looks increasingly bleak with little indication that governments are going to stop that.

Outside some incredible miracle invention that is going to reverse climate change, everything looks like we’re passed the point of no return (and even if that happens, we still have the issue of democracy dying, overpopulation, etc.). Any child born today is being born into a world that’s future looks, at best, horrific for a variety of reasons.

The issue you have is the same most people who replied to me have: you make connections that aren’t there because you assume I’m commenting on how we can improve things. What I’m saying is much simpler: the future looks bleak as shit, and it’s incredible shitty to bring a new life into a world with that future, especially if you know you can’t really afford it anyway. And again, as said, this is assuming you have proper access to birth control and abortion and aren’t being forced into birth. That obviously is a much different conversation for people who don’t have this.

Come back when governments step in to make childcare more affordable and step in to curb climate change in a significant way. Once that happens to a meaningful degree and maybe the future doesn’t look like fascistic hell scape, I’ll change my tone probably. But I think that’s mostly a fantasy at this point.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27792 on: August 23, 2022, 09:00:40 AM »
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I have no idea why people who have proper access to birth control and abortion still have children nowadays. There’s a lot of reasons why it’s an absolutely absurd idea, with this being a big one. Even if you could afford it, you should be adopting anyway.

I feel for those who don’t have those proper access and are basically forced into giving birth, though. It’s just going to keep those people in poverty forever, which is by design. It’s all very depressing


https://www.resetera.com/threads/wall-street-journal-it-now-costs-more-than-300-000-to-raise-a-child.622666/#post-91943710
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Even if you want kids, there’s tons of children in adoption agencies and in the federal system, lots of options to adopt internationally. It’s just…crazy to think that you have to biologically have a kid even if you want to have one. Pure fucking madness, literally.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/wall-street-journal-it-now-costs-more-than-300-000-to-raise-a-child.622666/page-2#post-91944472
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If you want kids, your first option should always be to try adoption. If you can’t afford that, then you probably can’t really afford to have a kid anyway and you’re actively bringing a human being into a world that looks currently to have no real future. But obviously I’m talking in the context for those who can afford to have children and have the proper access. Those who are basically forced into birth and don’t have those accesses are a wildly different conversation


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Saying poor people shouldn't have kids because they are poor is absolutely mind-blowing to me. If you are on the way to financial stability and you can wait a year or two to save up an extra $10-20k or pay off some loans first, sure. But for those in poverty and stuck there, saying they are irresponsible or are "pure fucking mad" for wanting a family is over the top to me.

This is why social constructs need to exist like free day-care, child tax credits, etc. But if I were in poverty, I wouldn't be holding my breath for that.

So to then say, "well they shouldn't have kids," is a really fucked up line of thinking IMO. Basically gate keeping reproductive rights behind wealth.
There’s really noting mind-blowing about it. You’re right, all of those things should exist, but they don’t and there is no indication that they will in any reasonable amount of time.

And if you actually read my post, I wasn’t gate keeping anything behind wealth. I was very clear: I don’t think anyone should be having kids, including those that can afford it. I said if you can afford it and you absolutely feel you have to have a spawn, you should be adopting.

You also ignored another thing I said, the most important thing: we are entering a time period where climate change is already started to ravage society, so I don’t know, maybe it’s a little more fucked up that people are bringing more people into a world that is overcrowded where civilization as we know it is cracking at the edges, fascism is having a comeback tour and all they’re going to be growing up to is a world on fire where a large portion of them are going to bake alive.

Sorry if I can’t find much reason to have kids if you actually can prevent it and aren’t being forced into that situation


https://www.resetera.com/threads/wall-street-journal-it-now-costs-more-than-300-000-to-raise-a-child.622666/page-2#post-91946677
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It’s more than just the expense, it’s also about what the world is like now just the grim future we now face. Anyone just now being born is going to most likely come to age in a world that is terrible and a society that has either collapsed or on the verge of it.

I get you, though, there is a part of me that would love to have a kid, too. If I were financially stable and had a steady partner, I may even look into adopting. But as far as having a child biologically, it’s an easy decision as long as that decision is in my own hands and not being forced of me.


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This is the argumentative equivalent of putting your finger in someone’s face and when they call it out you say “But I’m not touching you!”

There’s nothing wrong with people having kids. Give me a break. The economy is fucked because the top .0001% want ALL the crumbs.
Yeah, that’s obviously true as well. Who said it wasn’t? But either way, the economy is fucked regardless of the reason and we’re entering a new gilded age of extreme poverty, plus fascism on the rise, and then there’s climate catastrophe. All of these things can be true together.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/wall-street-journal-it-now-costs-more-than-300-000-to-raise-a-child.622666/page-3#post-91948804
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I'm sure you champion all the right mentalities to create wealth equality and help solve the climate (not being facetious) so I'll drop it after just saying my final piece that a person choosing to have a kid is not dooming the world or causing it to spiral any more out of control. The real tools to fix our issues as a species are not population control and I think you know that. If as a personal decision, you want to not have kids and bring them into a world that is struggling, I totally understand that. But let's not call people "literally fucking mad" or act like people should forgo a basic human right under the guise of them actively contributing to global catastrophe by having kids.
I don’t know, it does feel mad to me honestly. I just can’t really imagine looking at the future that is in front of us and thinking it’s a good idea to have a kid. I understand the drive and desire, as I said, I feel it myself at times. But I couldn’t even imagine looking at a newborn and thinking, ‘By the time you’re an adult, democracy worldwide will probably be dead and what’s left will be a boiling world with a civilization that I can’t imagine what it will be the shape of.’

But yes, I think besides this personal outlook, we are largely on the same page. If all of those things you listed before existed, I’d feel differently probably, though I’d still feel bad for the kid since all of that still wouldn’t really help climate change, but I could at least understand giving into that desire. But I really just think we’re passed a point where they will tbh.


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In all of my posts here that at no point do I actually say anything about having less kids is going to help the future. My argument is about why it’s a terrible idea to bring more kids in this world with the future we’re looking at, not that having less is going to have a meaningful impact on said future.

Just like the poster who said I should be blaming the top 1% for the broken economy, you’re assuming I’m trying to make an argument about individual responsibility. I 100% agree that the economy is broken because of the rich folks and I 100% agree that corporations are the driving force why our climate future looks grim. But regardless of the reasons, the future looks increasingly bleak with little indication that governments are going to stop that.

Outside some incredible miracle invention that is going to reverse climate change, everything looks like we’re passed the point of no return (and even if that happens, we still have the issue of democracy dying, overpopulation, etc.). Any child born today is being born into a world that’s future looks, at best, horrific for a variety of reasons.

The issue you have is the same most people who replied to me have: you make connections that aren’t there because you assume I’m commenting on how we can improve things. What I’m saying is much simpler: the future looks bleak as shit, and it’s incredible shitty to bring a new life into a world with that future, especially if you know you can’t really afford it anyway. And again, as said, this is assuming you have proper access to birth control and abortion and aren’t being forced into birth. That obviously is a much different conversation for people who don’t have this.

Come back when governments step in to make childcare more affordable and step in to curb climate change in a significant way. Once that happens to a meaningful degree and maybe the future doesn’t look like fascistic hell scape, I’ll change my tone probably. But I think that’s mostly a fantasy at this point.
Look, if we could please have all the progressive lunatics just sterilise themselves, that would be great. It would solve so many of the world's problems in just one generation.
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« Reply #27793 on: August 23, 2022, 09:05:56 AM »
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Weird how he's completely unable to separate the producer from the art, but has no problem at all separating the arranged marriage from the suicide bombings.

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« Reply #27794 on: August 23, 2022, 09:14:36 AM »


Resetera - Hey women. If you absolutely must have a kid then just pop down to the local kid pound on your lunch break and pick up one of those.

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« Reply #27795 on: August 23, 2022, 09:55:20 AM »
I think this comes from a worldview that everyone is completely malleable and no one is genetically predisposed toward anything, and no one should feel any twinge at the slightest pride in their heritage

completely agree that a lot of kids need adoption and it's a very noble and selfless thing to do, but it's a difficult road and not just a given thing that anyone should do

I know a family who adopted a young girl in need who had been exposed to all kinds of drugs in the womb and had several years to get past food hoarding tendencies and developmental delay, to this day has a speech impediment

in addition to this they spent years of their own time and money in court wresting this girl away from her mother who kept trying to claim her for tax breaks but didn't care enough to show up to half the hearings

she needed them desperately and they're raising her as well as they can but it's a bundle of troubles that I wouldn't wish on anyone, I don't blame anyone for wanting to control every aspect of child rearing to avoid many of those issues, and to have "her mother's eyes," or to pass down their heritage in a more traditional way
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« Reply #27796 on: August 23, 2022, 10:48:55 AM »
I think this comes from a worldview that everyone is completely malleable and no one is genetically predisposed toward anything, and no one should feel any twinge at the slightest pride in their heritage

So POC children shouldn’t know or have pride in their heritage? You ain’t slick.

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« Reply #27797 on: August 23, 2022, 11:10:22 AM »
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« Reply #27798 on: August 23, 2022, 12:06:30 PM »
This is why, as a gay person, I have a lot of reluctance in supporting chinese developers.

I also never bought the original Persona 5 or Catherine because of the homophobic and transphobic contents (If I'm not wrong now the western P5 Royale kind of fixed this problem... Let's see if I will buy it for Switch).

(sorry for the double post but I don't know how to delete a post...)

It's a country of like one and a half billion people.  And because the Wukong guy said he wants to give out blowjobs, he's shunning it all off.   :lol

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« Reply #27799 on: August 23, 2022, 12:17:44 PM »
This is why, as a gay person, I have a lot of reluctance in supporting chinese developers.

I also never bought the original Persona 5 or Catherine because of the homophobic and transphobic contents (If I'm not wrong now the western P5 Royale kind of fixed this problem... Let's see if I will buy it for Switch).

(sorry for the double post but I don't know how to delete a post...)

It's a country of like one and a half billion people.  And because the Wukong guy said he wants to give out blowjobs, he's shunning it all off.   :lol

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https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-in-the-ps3-360-era-what-was-up-with-the-anti-japanese-sentiment-from-the-west-was-it-borderline-xenophobic-racist.623059/unread

I know, Chinese developer, but the sinophobia.

Ooof.

 :shaq2

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27800 on: August 23, 2022, 12:19:04 PM »
The OP says he made misogynistic and homophobic comments but the damning quote is seemingly this

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"I want to expand our workforce and hire more people. I want to be licked so much that I can't have an erection anymore," it's reported that he wrote in one post. "I know you guys just happen to be so horny. I'm glad that the trailer has given you some satisfaction."

"My goal is to give blowjobs to people who appreciate my work, and to help people who share my vision achieve orgasms," he reportedly added in another.

Which is a weird as fuck and unprofessional thing to say but not exactly hateful.

There's also a bit more problematic quote where he says that the game doesn't need to be made for female players, which is again a weird thing to say and more problematic because he seemingly has some real gender stereotypes but at the same time it's okay for games to target a specific demographic and nothing about the game itself actually appeared to me like it would be offensive to women.

Defending some random ass Chinese dev is definitely not some hill I want to die on, but it just seems to me like this is overall kinda benign. Especially when this was already a controversy a year ago and is now being reheated

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27801 on: August 23, 2022, 12:21:29 PM »
The OP says he made misogynistic and homophobic comments but the damning quote is seemingly this

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"I want to expand our workforce and hire more people. I want to be licked so much that I can't have an erection anymore," it's reported that he wrote in one post. "I know you guys just happen to be so horny. I'm glad that the trailer has given you some satisfaction."

"My goal is to give blowjobs to people who appreciate my work, and to help people who share my vision achieve orgasms," he reportedly added in another.

Which is a weird as fuck and unprofessional thing to say but not exactly hateful.

There's also a bit more problematic quote where he says that the game doesn't need to be made for female players, which is again a weird thing to say and more problematic because he seemingly has some real gender stereotypes but at the same time it's okay for games to target a specific demographic and nothing about the game itself actually appeared to me like it would be offensive to women.

Defending some random ass Chinese dev is definitely not some hill I want to die on, but it just seems to me like this is overall kinda benign. Especially when this was already a controversy a year ago and is now being reheated

Well, there is an unsourced tweet from some random ass person saying he posted a bunch of vile stuff, but its all unverified and undocumented.

Or, as ERA would call it, hard evidence.
« Last Edit: August 23, 2022, 12:38:53 PM by joeboy101 »

Uncle

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27802 on: August 23, 2022, 01:03:11 PM »
lots of people say "hey men, just sit this movie/game/book out, it's not FOR you"

if that's valid, then things can be made which aren't for women also

:idont
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27803 on: August 23, 2022, 01:14:07 PM »
The vast majority of Era posters are horrible videogame historians. When you use Nier Gesault as an example of how Western media had an anti Japanese agenda  :lol :lol :lol

The main shift was Western/European developed console games were more consistent in quality, while Japanesw console games that weren't first party Nintendo games were a lot more inconsistent. Nintendo was incredibly successful, Capcom fared mostly well, Sega did ok, every other Japanese publisher tho?

Japanese developed handheld games were often critically acclaimed or cult classics.
It was a misunderstanding of the Japanese of what had happened. First, their old timers refused to retire and innovate then suddenly seemingly out of nowhere big hits like GTA4 and Call of Duty emerged.
Inafune said things like: "Japan is over" and they honestly believed it and started to outsource things to the west or started using Unreal Engine because that was 'better'.

What they didn't understand until much later is that a lot of great western games weren't "new" they were simply adapted from earlier console and PC games.
It was more or less a perfect storm of consoles like the Xbox 360 adapting the PC architecture, developers like BioWare and Epic Games making consoles their primary platform plus tons and tons of marketing.
The latter was mostly effective in covering up the many failures of western developers like Rare, Midway, Junction Point, Lionhead, Westwood and many others.
Some of the games that were hits also had very long development cycles or were simply ported over from the OG Xbox while the Japanese were still churning out PS2 hits very late into its lifecycle.

That it was all a fluke was clear once the dust settled. Cliffy B never got another hit as big as Gear of War, Jade Raymond 'retired' into desk jobs for most her career, Square Enix sold Eidos for peanuts and Ken Levine ran into a wall with Bioshock Infinite.
All in all the western publishers and developers quickly ran everything into the ground with their hubris. Once they started focusing on game development again the Japanese developers quickly caught up.

One of the stranger developments during that time that didn’t pan out were the Western studios handling Japanese franchises. Except for Nintendo’s, I think.

Wayforward made a top down dungeon crawler out of Silent Hill for the Vita lol.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27804 on: August 23, 2022, 01:40:29 PM »
Scandals aren't quite what they used to be


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27805 on: August 23, 2022, 01:45:56 PM »
That's not a scandal, she's in support of people criticizing Florida disallowing medicaid to be dispersed for trans surgery. 

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27806 on: August 23, 2022, 01:56:17 PM »
I could be convinced to support those who are critical of others who support the disaffirmation of gender-inclusive policies which decry the lack of approval of funding which may or may not apply to care which is not taking place in Florida clinics
Uncle

Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27807 on: August 23, 2022, 02:23:03 PM »
Era user diagnosed with condition every era member not banned suffers from

https://www.resetera.com/threads/diagnosed-with-low-testosterone.623185/

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27808 on: August 23, 2022, 02:24:48 PM »
(Image removed from quote.)

Trans content in the new Harry potter game?  That's bad!
The "real lives lost and people endangered by the actions of [BITCH JOANNE]" in this case: zero. In both cases, but especially the first case.

So a fictional trans character actually has a good chance of outweighing that nothing, especially if you value meaningless representation.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27809 on: August 23, 2022, 02:29:52 PM »
that HP game selling truckloads is going to have some of them commit sudoku

HaughtyFrank

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27810 on: August 23, 2022, 02:32:50 PM »
That's not a scandal, she's in support of people criticizing Florida disallowing medicaid to be dispersed for trans surgery.

There seems to be a lot of anger

https://twitter.com/prncswthrt/status/1561920696862887936

Which may or may not be justified but I find it too funny that it's all about allegedly liking and and commenting

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27811 on: August 23, 2022, 02:33:39 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-are-dc-comics-so-pretentious-dark-now-the-dark-knight-returns-problem.623317/

They act like Marvel doesn’t have a lot of edgy shit comics. Some with worse stuff or more nihilistic takes

Quote from: Slayven
Frank Miller and The Watchman's long shadow.

Gloom and doom. Only fools hope.

Funny cause Hope use to be their bread and butter

TDKR ends with Bruce rebuilding and now having an army and also making clear that Superman is not a total  government lap dog. While Watchmen is way more pessimistic, the message was that waiting for super heroes to fix our problems or stuff to get better just because is a foolish errand, Dr Manhattan deciding that humanity is worth something to the point of warning Veidt that stuff is not necessary going to get better is both hopeful and a warning.


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27812 on: August 23, 2022, 02:34:18 PM »
lots of people say "hey men, just sit this movie/game/book out, it's not FOR you"

if that's valid, then things can be made which aren't for women also

:idont

Cyberpunk and Harry Potter are games not meant for trans people :trumps

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27813 on: August 23, 2022, 02:39:24 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-are-dc-comics-so-pretentious-dark-now-the-dark-knight-returns-problem.623317/

They act like Marvel doesn’t have a lot of edgy shit comics. Some with worse stuff or more nihilistic takes

Quote from: Slayven
Frank Miller and The Watchman's long shadow.

Gloom and doom. Only fools hope.

Funny cause Hope use to be their bread and butter
Quote from: The OP
Granted I only really read Batman comics recently.
So the OP only reads one segment of a franchise within DC and makes a thread asking why everything DC produces is this way and Slayven, THE COMIC BOOKS EXPERT, comes in with a take that's only at minimum 15-20 years out of date.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27814 on: August 23, 2022, 02:42:06 PM »
That's not a scandal, she's in support of people criticizing Florida disallowing medicaid to be dispersed for trans surgery.

There seems to be a lot of anger

https://twitter.com/prncswthrt/status/1561920696862887936

Which may or may not be justified but I find it too funny that it's all about allegedly liking and and commenting

Yeah, my bad - seems you were right in the sense that this was 'scandalized'.  From my peripheral understanding of this, the original post that she "liked" criticized "enbies" which is an umbrella term covering all gender identities outside the gender binary...the post criticizes enbies for making it harder to codify trans-identity into some medicaid mandate.   
« Last Edit: August 23, 2022, 02:56:38 PM by Propagandhim »

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27815 on: August 23, 2022, 02:51:53 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-are-dc-comics-so-pretentious-dark-now-the-dark-knight-returns-problem.623317/

They act like Marvel doesn’t have a lot of edgy shit comics. Some with worse stuff or more nihilistic takes

Quote from: Slayven
Frank Miller and The Watchman's long shadow.

Gloom and doom. Only fools hope.

Funny cause Hope use to be their bread and butter
Quote from: The OP
Granted I only really read Batman comics recently.
So the OP only reads one segment of a franchise within DC and makes a thread asking why everything DC produces is this way and Slayven, THE COMIC BOOKS EXPERT, comes in with a take that's only at minimum 15-20 years out of date.

Yeah… but the movies!!!

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27816 on: August 23, 2022, 02:53:30 PM »
That's not a scandal, she's in support of people criticizing Florida disallowing medicaid to be dispersed for trans surgery.

There seems to be a lot of anger

https://twitter.com/prncswthrt/status/1561920696862887936

Which may or may not be justified but I find it too funny that it's all about allegedly liking and and commenting

Yeah, my bad - seems you were right in the sense that this was 'scandalized'.  From my peripheral understanding of this, the original post that she "liked" criticized "enbies" which is an umbrella term covering all gender identities outside the gender binary...the post criticizes enbies for making it harder to codify trans-identity into some medicaid mandate.

Also, no matter how hard I try, I just can't understand this stuff.  It's not out of hate or closemindedness.  Maybe, I'm just too old,  naive and dumb to figure this stuff out.



What does this mean 

How are you non-binary and also a boy.


Why do fools fall in love?

What if God were one of us?

How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsy Roll Pop?


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27817 on: August 23, 2022, 02:59:47 PM »
Yeah this is something I really don't understand either. Is this person just feeling a little boyish but not boyish enough or something? It basically makes it sound a lot more like a lifestyle choice. It's okay to not fall into gender archetypes, doesn't mean you're now a whole new gender

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27818 on: August 23, 2022, 03:04:10 PM »
I'll spill the beans.

*Clicks on profile*

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27819 on: August 23, 2022, 03:10:14 PM »
 :pika

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27820 on: August 23, 2022, 03:44:34 PM »
 :pika :pika

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27821 on: August 23, 2022, 03:59:02 PM »
Yeah this is something I really don't understand either. Is this person just feeling a little boyish but not boyish enough or something? It basically makes it sound a lot more like a lifestyle choice. It's okay to not fall into gender archetypes, doesn't mean you're now a whole new gender
They've confused having a gender for having a personality.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27822 on: August 23, 2022, 04:04:35 PM »
That's not a scandal, she's in support of people criticizing Florida disallowing medicaid to be dispersed for trans surgery.

There seems to be a lot of anger

https://twitter.com/prncswthrt/status/1561920696862887936

Which may or may not be justified but I find it too funny that it's all about allegedly liking and and commenting
Never being gendered correctly? That wouldn't be because you just flip your preferred gender at random times with the aim of catching random people out, would it?
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27823 on: August 23, 2022, 04:46:09 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-are-dc-comics-so-pretentious-dark-now-the-dark-knight-returns-problem.623317/

They act like Marvel doesn’t have a lot of edgy shit comics. Some with worse stuff or more nihilistic takes

Quote from: Slayven
Frank Miller and The Watchman's long shadow.

Gloom and doom. Only fools hope.

Funny cause Hope use to be their bread and butter
Quote from: The OP
Granted I only really read Batman comics recently.
So the OP only reads one segment of a franchise within DC and makes a thread asking why everything DC produces is this way and Slayven, THE COMIC BOOKS EXPERT, comes in with a take that's only at minimum 15-20 years out of date.

No one tell these guys about Ultimatum.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27824 on: August 23, 2022, 05:35:25 PM »
Top Gun thread?

Spoilers for new viewers, but Tom Cruise is best mates with a cult leader that steals people's money and makes them their slaves. And Tom is very much down with it. Fuck him and his films.

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And the thousands trapped under the hand of David Miscavige mean nothing to you? Enjoy your little dick getting hard when little Tommy makes a plane go fast, mate!

 :shaking

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27825 on: August 23, 2022, 05:39:01 PM »
#istandwithkatieholmes

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27826 on: August 23, 2022, 05:52:05 PM »
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And the thousands trapped under the hand of David Miscavige mean nothing to you? Enjoy your little dick getting hard when little Tommy makes a plane go fast, mate!
Remember, the only thing standing between them and freedom from the cult they joined is just one person not streaming the $1.4 billion box office Top Gun: Maverick.

 :cruise

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27827 on: August 23, 2022, 05:57:50 PM »
I thought they were talking about suburban sasquatch
:existential

Uncle

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27828 on: August 23, 2022, 06:04:13 PM »
"Dave Miscarriage"

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27829 on: August 23, 2022, 06:28:42 PM »
The desperate attempts in those threads to get a hate train going

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27830 on: August 23, 2022, 07:59:02 PM »
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I did. It was super hard! Too bad about the little part. Still…good times. Great film. The digital release is excellent as well

 :yikes :banplz

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27832 on: August 23, 2022, 09:36:01 PM »
But when Ezra Miller tries to do some weird cult shit, WB makes them apologize. :fbm
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27833 on: August 23, 2022, 09:41:03 PM »
They them

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27834 on: August 23, 2022, 10:36:50 PM »
Cruise is such a movie star he came back from that Oprah moment, the scientology promo leaking, angrily arguing with Matt Lauer about the history of medicine or some shit. Wild times there. He kept it buttoned up since. Meanwhile Oprah is off the air and Matt Lauer was fired for his pervert desk button. Reaching OT levels L Ron couldn’t imagine.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27835 on: August 24, 2022, 12:33:10 AM »
lol so Mancha really was Zatt?

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27836 on: August 24, 2022, 01:25:52 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/can-we-talk-about-how-it-seemed-like-there-were-more-japanese-women-players-over-men-players-that-preferred-ffxv-compared-to-other-ff-games-fujoshi.623512/

Half the thread declaring that this was obvious while the other half thinks it's funny how often the game was called sexist leading up to the release.
Wonder when Morrigan and co. will crash the party

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27837 on: August 24, 2022, 01:25:54 AM »
Quote from: Neoxon
One interview last week didn’t work out, but they gave me some helpful notes.
I have another interview tomorrow that I’m preparing for in addition to another one the week after.
As for my resume, I’m worried it’ll be used against me by trolls if I post it here.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/1-5-years-after-i-got-my-computer-science-degree-still-no-job-is-going-back-for-my-master’s-my-only-option-now.618501/page-8#post-92056963

Dude, you are so fucking easy to find even when people are not trying. I can go to see comments at Maximilian YouTube videos and I can found you or another RE users.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27838 on: August 24, 2022, 02:12:42 AM »
lol so Mancha really was Zatt?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/hbo-max-coming-over-the-next-year-video-not-damage-control-op-offers-mea-culpa.622531/page-2#post-91925134
Quote from: Mancha
Quote from: J_Viper
Zatt is that you?
That’s like the second time that I read this on this forum, is that how some of you deal with criticism? No I’m not ‘Zatt’, neither I think it’s cool to misdirect rightful criticism by making me or the OP boogeymen. There is nothing wrong with the OP’s title, and I stand by every word I’ve said that you just quoted me.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #27839 on: August 24, 2022, 02:25:14 AM »
Join us soon for the next season of zattwatch!