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[benjipwns]

Relatedly, this is going on in the Andrew Tate thread: https://www.resetera.com/threads/andrew-tate-seemingly-arrested-in-romania-in-human-trafficking-probe.669967/post-98982502

What’s the appeal of this guy? He’s a cartoon character. Apparently he has tons of fanboys.

Being really real, how many positive male role models are out there for young boys right now? We had Chadwick Boseman, RDJ, and Chris Evans in the past, but now? Unfortunately, he fills that void.

We were talking about this earlier.

This is really a conversation the left, collectively, is going to have to have.

The thing is people will paint it as just white boys, but it's really not. Tate's crap is transcending racial lines. He's been influencing an entire generation of impressionable kids and nobody has paid him much attention or even attempted to offer a better option. Until that happens, he'll just be replaced by the next asshole grifter.

They killed or exiled the leaders of the Civil Rights movment, leading the way for hoteppery to guide the youth.

It's boys in general though. First you had Peterson, then he got foisted by his own bullshit. Then Tate took his place, now he's gone as a result of his bullshit. It's all the same issue and it's really only been the last decade or so.

There's an inherent fascism to superheroes. I wouldn't consider them good role models in the slightest.

And this is the problem I'm dancing around. This statement right here. We're all so eager to tear shit down that nobody gets built up

Why do young boys need some creepy cult leader to lead them? I never had anything like that growing up. Celebrity worship has always existed but I don’t recall it being a rite of passage to be weaned by these dreadful misogynistic online personalities, where apparently the magical cure to depression is to really hate women.

Nobody is going to magically replace that. Anyone “nicer” to lead these kids in the same way is going to be a G-rated version and arguably even more insidious, because he’ll couch all of it in euphemisms. That’s no better.

I don’t know what the actual answer is. But I don’t think think there’s some magical wholesome figure to come in and grab the Peterson/Tate audience, especially when vocal portion consists of hateful sexists who yearn for Tom Cruise’s character in Magnolia to reinforce that.

I'm not talking about a cult leader, I'm talking about a role model. Someone to look up to. Kids have always had role models, from actors to athletes. Young people need role models because they're trying to figure out who they are as people, they're trying on different personas and looking for something that feels right. Has everyone really forgotten what it was to be young and impressionable?

This was exactly what I was going to say! Thank you, it’s such a problem.

Like, I'm not saying don't call out bad shit but it feels like sometimes we're reaching so hard that you could pull a muscle. Like with the post I quoted.

Superhero comics were literally created by a pair of Jewish guys so that somebody would actually punch Hitler in the face because nobody else was willing to step up and do the job. And apparently that's fascist.

The message in 90% of cape comics is that the hero can't fix the world alone and needs help doing it. Batman's literally got a small army of Robins to help him ffs.

We need to normalise the idea that role models can be anyone and not be specific to your own gender.

Continuing the idea that men are different from women does nothing but enforce differences through societal pressure.

Basically society needs to change to a point where kids, especially boys, are brought up to idolise good people and not someone who can show you how to be a 'good man'.

Fuck gender norms basically and focus on universal behaviours instead.

I swear to god, some of you forgot what it is to be kids.

I swear to god, some of you think that a different world isn't possible.

Do you think kids just learn things from thin air?

No, they are influenced by the adults in their lives and the media surrounding them.

If those things are enforcing the idea that men and women are different, they will believe it. If instead people were brought up to simply be good people and not focus on the difference between boys and girls, it would be different.

Millions of kids grow up without male figures in their lives or have non stereotypical parents and yet they grow up to be strong and well adjusted people but apparently that isn't possible according to some people.

All your post does is come across like nurture doesn't exist but nature does.

You're literally going to cede entire generations of young boys to the alt right because you refuse to let a man be a role model for young boys. Like, dude, seriously?

No, we are in this mess because boys are brought up through adults and media telling them to be men which leads to generations of boys having to question what it means to be a man instead of focusing on what it means to be a good person.

No. No. Absolutely no.

Not only is this wrong, it's incredibly toxic. We should not be positing the idea that maleness and/or masculinity is inherently negative. That's what we should be fighting against and providing positive alternatives to.

Here's an example: I'm a Queer Black person.

When I need to commune regarding my identity as a Queer person, I seek out other Queer people.

When I need to commune regarding my identity as a Black person, I seek out other Black people.

When I need to commune regarding my identity as a Queer Black person, I seek out other Queer Black People.

Do you know I don't seek out? At any point as it relates to how I see myself in the world? Cis white women. Because what are they going to do for me?

That's how you sound right now.

The majority of male influences and influencers are incredible toxic. But that's something that should be addressed. Not treated as immovable truth.

It’s true that positive masculinity is always problematic to some extent, even as concept, let alone how it’s often depicted especially in pop culture. I would say my formative role model for “masculinity” outside of immediate family was found in actors like Harrison Ford, and much has been said and written about how problematic 80s Hollywood depictions of masculinity were.

Which again is nothing compared to the Andrew Tates and Jordan Petersons of the world who are actively trying to recruit misguided young men to their purpose. They are cult leaders.

“What does positive masculinity look like?” How about some regular ass human beings acting like human beings?

This is literally the worst way to look at the problem. It's inherently toxic because it assumes that masculinity is inherently toxic.

This kind of overlaps with something I've thought about in the past:

Since the Women's Liberation movement, if you were to ask a broad spectrum of people what a "real woman" is or what women "should" be like, you'll get a lot of shitty misogynistic answers but also a lot of "whatever she wants"-style answers.

If you were to ask the same questions but about what "real man" is or what men "should" be like, I'm not sure if you would get those "whatever he wants" sort of answers to the same degree. And that's a problem. I don't think there's been a broad social movement to fully question and reconstruct the concept of masculinity in a more freeing way. We got part of the way there with broader acceptance of LGBT+ stuff but that's not a perfect overlap with the issue.

I mean, I've never actually gone around and asked this, nor did I grow up with male expectations placed on me, so I can't be sure, but there was quite a lot of explicit messaging over the years to normalize the idea that the feminine identity doesn't need to and shouldn't be so rigid and I don't really remember seeing the same sort of explicit messaging for men very much.

This, ironically, is part of what we were discussing last night. While we tear down the misogynist's idea of what a woman is, we fail to build a new idea of what a man can be. That results in a lack of new, positive, role models. As a result we all get stuck pushing the same sort of toxic masculinity that has always been pushed, all while talking about how we need to tear it down.

Yeah, like, I think those guys are the model but we need more of them and ones who are younger.

Look at what happened to Simu Liu, his ass got torn down almost immediately over some reddit posts that got taken completely out of context. If we're being totally honest, we're all way too eager to tear people down. There's people that 1000% deserve it, but in the last few years people have gotten way too used to just looking for reasons to dunk on each other and that shit ain't healthy for nobody.

The purity testing especially when it comes to twitter can be at times grating but it can also be a useful tool to gauge whether or not a person has made meaningful change in their lives. Like, "progressives" like Destiny would most likely still argue about the supposed benefits of using slurs in a private setting.

It ain't just Twitter, that shit has been spreading everywhere. It's here too.

It is here, absolutely, hell, i've participated in it and
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It is pervasive on the internet, and honestly it's because things keep reaching their natural extreme. It's hard NOT to constantly be angry when it hasn't been a month since we had to genuinely codify interracial and LBGT marriage or that we had several states outlaw slavery in 2022. I do not begrudge the angry touchy people who put down people over even minor things. Shit shouldn't be so bad in the first place. Yes there is a convo to be had wherein we should encourage others to not be at a 11/10 for like, ANY topic regardless of context. That does get exhausting.

You're completely ignoring the big issue: Twitter and Facebook. Everything you're describing was a thing before we saw the rise of social media and social media companies tuning their algorithms to specifically push outrage and divisiveness. And yet we'll all totally ignore their role in our modern society and blame everything but them

The big thing that pisses me off to no end is that we know for a FACT that social media companies changed their algorithms to push negativity and divisiveness. We had people calling it out when it happened and yet they get no blame for where we are right now. People will actively whitewash their shit.

Before we saw the rise of social media as we know it today a lot of the internet, aka the "lawless flame war" days was defined by how edgy people could be. And yea there's been a metric fuckton of pushback because it would be terrible for the internet to ever go back to that. Which yea, has led to a lot of reactionary anger even at people who don't even deserve it regardless of context. And yea absolutely social media companies have played a crucial role in the divisive reactionary nature of the internet for max profits.

Gonna be real, I've been online for like 20 years now. In big spaces. It's never been this bad. Ever.

You can hate Hitler and still have a fundamentally fascist worldview, even without realizing it. When the Frankfurt school theorists ended up in California after fleeing the Holocaust they looked at Hollywood and pointed out how the American culture industry functioned in the same way as culture in nazi Germany. It worse not, things have not changed for the better.

As for superheros, like magic, they are an inegalitarian idea/ideology. The basic premise is that some humans are somehow more than others. Just like fascist ideology. I'm not even going to get into the fact that by far most super heroes in practice act like policemen, protecting the status quo.

Like you point out, these comics are somewhat aware of the impotence of heroes, but unfortunately they have a complete lack of self-awareness for how their existence is a symptom of ideology. Nolan's Dark Knight Returns is a particularly egregious example of this... That said, important themes such as racism and feminism and so on can be processed in this structure and that can be valuable, as long as one understands that there is a deep neoliberal ideology(which is also where wokeism comes from) that sits at the core of it all.

Rather than having a caped guy punching Hitler, there could have been another kind of story, where ordinary people through collaboration tear down fascist institutions and overthrow (and by all means, beat up) Adolf. The idea that we need some super hero(or any hero at all) to come in and fix things, I think, is ultimately is connected to the same kind of ideology that justifies the beliefs of people like Peterson and Tate. It boils down to some regressive ideas about taking responsibility but completely misses the point that it's impossible to take responsibility in a capitalist society.

Speaking about the need for role models. Yes we need them, but they absolutely need to not be fictional characters or celebrities. They need to be real people who are actually in engaged in the lives of these kids.

God, you're dumb as a back of rocks aren't you? *Checks ban history* yup, you are.

wow, ok. I guess I'll see myself out. In fact I'll happily take a permanent ban now, you've demonstrated why it's pointless to engage in discussion here.

btw, if memory serves me right, most of my bans were handed down for trying to discuss the politics of piracy(which I argued can be justified in certain situations, but that's apparently bannable here).

Yeah, I honestly think the whole discussion about role models is missing the forest from the trees or at the very least oversimplifying the issue; boys and men who follow Tate are misogynistic, not just lacking in role models. Sure, positive role models can't hurt, but hey, if girls could manage to not turn into raging sociopaths when lacking a female role model, why can't boys? And do we really think that a positive male role model would prevent boys susceptible to such blatant misogyny from following fuckwits like Tate and his ilk? I doubt it.

Women absolutely do turn into raging sociopaths, though. They absolutely do.

Or do we need another election to see a plurality of white woman upholding the patriarchy?

Or do we need yet another video of a white woman going Mega Karen? That “Karen” exists as a meme at all is telling.

It looks different for women than it does for men, and maybe the degrees of harm is different, but we can’t be completely ignorant of the fact that boys are in the state they’re in when, on the left, we treat it as a problem not even worth addressing.

This shit. This shit right here. White women have been sociopaths from the shadows. Shit, out in the open even.

People often express hate for this opinion of mine, but I grew up without any role models as far as I could tell, and due to that I've never understood the need for role models that everyone at large seems to clamor about. The dangers of idolization and putting people on a pedestal always seemed more dangerous to me than the benefit of role models. If anything, despite not having role models, I wish when I was a child that people told me more about how fallible humans tend to be, and that many people that others make out to be heroes were actually grotesque sacks of shit. I think children learning about how bigotry manifests in our world is far more important than having positive role models.

As for combatting people like Tate, it seems pretty obvious to me that the biggest factor is for major platforms to identify and ban bigots before they become huge to the point where they no longer need those platforms to sustain their wealth.
There will always be corners of the internet where foul people congregate, but if Tate was permabanned from the major players (Facebook, Tiktok, Twitter, YouTube, etc) before his account grew past 50k followers, I can't imagine kids in school would know his name.

Saying "we need more role models for boys" seems more like a scapegoat to me; it's also not something most people can do anything about unless they were already planning to go into a career that involves children. On the other hand, wanting platforms to identify and ban bigots (before they become millionaires rather than after) is something people can actually rally for pretty easily. Because these platforms are the ones with the power to actually do something, and they don't. The Quartering was banned from freakin' Magic the Gathering tournaments yet as far as I know he still has a YouTube channel - shit like that should be unacceptable.

The other issue (that most people on this forum aren't ready for) which I also feel is far more pertinent than "lack of positive role models" is our capitalistic society that says how important you are is equatable with how wealthy you are. If we live under capitalism, parasites like Tate will tag along.

wow, ok. I guess I'll see myself out. In fact I'll happily take a permanent ban now, you've demonstrated why it's pointless to engage in discussion here.

btw, if memory serves me right, most of my bans were handed down for trying to discuss the politics of piracy(which I argued can be justified in certain situations, but that's apparently bannable here).

I thought you made a good post. I don't know why the General Manager is being so insulting and dismissive, but I've noticed they do that often. Or why only one other poster here addressed it. It seems a big deal to me.
I'm also doubting why I'm even here given that. Given my issues with anxiety and depression, making a thoughtful post then getting a dismissive, insulting response like that from the GM with no recourse available would destroy me, so I don't think it's worth the risk posting here for me. I hope you're okay.

Good talk everyone.

[HaughtyFrank]

God, you're dumb as a back of rocks aren't you? *Checks ban history* yup, you are.

I distinctly remember B-Dubs being upset about the banbot because members would use the ban history to attack other people 

Also I really like that moment of Morrigan stepping in and then Royalan putting her down because bitches indeed be crazy. I don't even know who to root for 

Also why does B-Dubs think RDJ or Chris Evans are the only role models for kids? Has he ever heard of sports?

[benjipwns]

Royalan's response is far more insane than what Morrigan said, especially when you grant that she's Morrigan. For his two examples of women turning into sociopaths he mentions a "plurality of white women voted to uphold patriarchy" which is wrong in that they only voted for Trump then Democrat downballot (maybe Royalan just doesn't know what "plurality" means though) and a yes/no vote on patriarchy was never on the ballot anyway and then from there he says the fact that the Karen stereotype/meme even exists is "telling" which is something you would never be allowed to get away with saying in almost any other instance on there. If he hadn't narrowed his point to just white women (a minority of global women) it would have been another Royalan opinion that no other poster is allowed to repeat.

[Transhuman]

I'm not talking about a cult leader, I'm talking about a role model. Someone to look up to. Kids have always had role models, from actors to athletes. Young people need role models because they're trying to figure out who they are as people, they're trying on different personas and looking for something that feels right. Has everyone really forgotten what it was to be young and impressionable?

[Propagandhim]

Royalan's response is far more insane than what Morrigan said, especially when you grant that she's Morrigan. For his two examples of women turning into sociopaths he mentions a "plurality of white women voted to uphold patriarchy" which is wrong in that they only voted for Trump then Democrat downballot (maybe Royalan just doesn't know what "plurality" means though) and a yes/no vote on patriarchy was never on the ballot anyway and then from there he says the fact that the Karen stereotype/meme even exists is "telling" which is something you would never be allowed to get away with saying in almost any other instance on there. If he hadn't narrowed his point to just white women (a minority of global women) it would have been another Royalan opinion that no other poster is allowed to repeat.

When do you not win a bullshit argument by invoking race on this cesspit forum?

[benjipwns]

Apparently when you can just invoke your belief in mystical social media algorithms to wave away capitalism, colonialism and white supremacy?

[Snoopycat_]

Christ, their personal lives must be absolute disasters.

[clothedmacuser]

"Ma'am, You have to pay for those carrots."

I'll plant some later and replace the carrots

"No, you have to pay for those carrots now."

If you fought harder to eliminate capitalism this issue wouldn't exist.




ps. A recent scientifical discovery says Jesus actually looked like this.

[Snoopycat_]

It's almost impossible not to picture Nep as one of those people who end up on page 17 of their local newspaper, frowning at the camera with their arms folded

[Taco Bell Tower]

B-Dumbs is a misogynist pedo, wth is he talking about

God, you're dumb as a back of rocks aren't you? *Checks ban history* yup, you are.

Best quote ever from a GM/admin/mod

[clothedmacuser]

B-Dumbs is a misogynist pedo, wth is he talking about

God, you're dumb as a back of rocks aren't you? *Checks ban history* yup, you are.

Best quote ever from a GM/admin/mod

Why is everyone so quick to assume the worst of each other on this forum I manage?

[BadAss2961]

It's a symptom of middle class, dead-end suburbanism. To me, a lack of noise in an area makes it feel legitimately lifeless and unsociable, and more often than not if it gets too much I need to drive somewhere or go do something where I can hear and see people actually communing with one another. I grew up always hearing music from house parties, loud cars, block parties, etc., and a lot of the noise making I participated in myself. The need to escape from all noise or, when that can't be achieved, to rant against such people as idiots or sociopathic, is just fundamentally repugnant to me. Again, I never want to get to a point in my life where I find the occasional loud car or even phone so annoying and offensive that I need to rant to strangers on ResetEra about it. It's about as cool and appealing as going on Nextdoor to complain about the rap cars.

Obviously not about race -- but no.  This fucking sucks.  Don't go anywhere near my neighborhood.

Gonna take a wild guess that Nep is full of shit with this 'street' gimmick she's been turning up lately.

All that inner city energy going on outside, yet she's some furry that can be seen modding ResetEra every day.

[benjipwns]

Either this hate site or the Kiwi Farms needs to crowdfund someone to find out exactly which Atlanta suburb Nepenthe keeps having all these inner city TV show experiences in.

[Propagandhim]

Shouldn't be hard to find all those town halls she attends where people show up with bullet proof vests.  I mean, the sort of thing that requires that kind of gear because of how much confrontation it attracts should be well known.

[clothedmacuser]

I want to go to the supermarket where old men openly declare their love for her and people hurl coins at cashiers like ninja throwing stars.

[BadAss2961]

Relatedly, this is going on in the Andrew Tate thread: https://www.resetera.com/threads/andrew-tate-seemingly-arrested-in-romania-in-human-trafficking-probe.669967/post-98982502

What’s the appeal of this guy? He’s a cartoon character. Apparently he has tons of fanboys.

Being really real, how many positive male role models are out there for young boys right now? We had Chadwick Boseman, RDJ, and Chris Evans in the past, but now? Unfortunately, he fills that void.

I don't know why i'm surprised, but I checked to confirm that this was a real quote.

 

[clothedmacuser]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/people-who-set-off-fireworks-in-residential-neighborhoods-can-get-fucked.670675/post-99024256

If this topic was genuinely coming from a place of compassion regarding physical harm and property damage, and not simply a veneer to express condemnation from a high horse, then sure, I would probably be more inclined to tell people going "I don't care" to shut the fuck up and actually listen. But the OP poisoned the well from the beginning, so oh well.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-hate-it-when-people-are-blasting-their-car-stereo-so-loud-the-whole-street-can-hear-it.670783/post-99011005

Like I said, I hope I never get to a point in my life where I turn my nose up at such people. You do you though.

Same person

 


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Like, one thing us on the left can do is stop ruining decent terms that describe legitimately harmful behaviors. We've already fucked up gaslighting to now mean "disagreement" instead of an extended form of psychological and emotional abuse. Let's not use "tone-policing" to now mean "disagreeing with someone calling you subhuman for partaking in a centuries-old celebratory tradition."

Imagine that.  Using academic terms to the point it becomes useless, like cultural appropriation or discrimination (neither of which are inherently bad).  Or descriptors like nazi and genocide.

 

[Potato]

All of those arguments from Royalfat and BDumbs would have resulted in perms for any other non-prominent member.

Also, this is  and will definitely result in a history of histories
https://www.resetera.com/threads/andrew-tate-seemingly-arrested-in-romania-in-human-trafficking-probe.669967/post-98992501

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/i-hate-it-when-people-are-blasting-their-car-stereo-so-loud-the-whole-street-can-hear-it.670783/post-99011005

Like I said, I hope I never get to a point in my life where I turn my nose up at such people. You do you though.

At that point, it's not about the noise level or even how long it's sustained. It's about the negative presumptions conjured by the affected folks towards the latter versus the former (where, yes, loud cars are associated with ethnic minorities and other lower class groups whether we wanna admit that or not), which is also another facet of suburbia that is repugnant to me- the fact that it exists out of a need to gate off and judge others.

That's not why suburbs exist.

[Taco Bell Tower]

The more I read this thread the more I realize there's a lot of people spending angry energy towards some of the simplest things when they could be putting it towards much better use. There's a lot of Injustice and wrong in the United States right now and this continues to be a really petty thing to grasp at. In fact it's not something that's going to change anytime soon by most of the discussion in this thread. At this point it's just venting.

I'm going to be honest with you fireworks stuff is about the only time I can safely say that the left and right are typically fairly balanced on. It's a time where a lot of families can get together and not talk politics and just be there together. I'm not going to complain about this one. There are douchebags out there that have illegal ones in my area but I'd rather they blow off steam like this then a lot worse ways they could think of.

[benjipwns]

I'm going to be honest with you fireworks stuff is about the only time I can safely say that the left and right are typically fairly balanced on. It's a time where a lot of families can get together and not talk politics and just be there together.

I see "left and right" (BOTH SIDES DURR) family sitting together privileged enough to not have to be talking politics in the middle of a genocide and just watching fireworks, I see five Nazis about to swing by Walmart to pay (NOT STEAL LIKE THEY SHOULD) for a copy of Hogwart's Legacy.

[ShutUp]

They want so badly to be seen as woke individuals that they are at the point where they seemingly deem a mother/father as “stereotypical” parents? Just completely broken people. Most, if not all, of them.

And B Dubs, you keep calling out these types of people all the while letting them determine how the board you moderate is running. Fucking grow a pair, remove extremist Neppy and permanently ban her ass. Anyone else has a problem with that? Ban their asses too. It’s clear you don’t at all like these idiots or their insane way of thinking so make a definitive statement and watch the board, finally, for the first time since the early few days of the sites existence, become something other than a breeding ground for lunatics.

[BIONIC]

I’ve read that entire B-Chuds and co. quoteathon.

I am now much much dumber as a result.

I hate you, benji.

[BisMarckie]

I’ve read that entire B-Chuds and co. quoteathon.

I am now much much dumber as a result.

I hate you, benji.

I didn’t read it, would you mind writing a summary of those posts (500 words max.)

Thank you.

[BisMarckie]

If you don’t do it, I won’t take your mom to Olive Garden for our date.

[BisMarckie]

I have sexual relations with bionic‘s mom.

[wsippel]

Yes, fuck all animals and people with ptsd. Also fireworks are terrible for the environment and have caused awful fires on the west coast. At the most I’m fine with them in the hands of professionals. They should be banned for purchase by the average dipshit.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/people-who-set-off-fireworks-in-residential-neighborhoods-can-get-fucked.670675/#post-98986903
John Kowalski

People who do this are absolute assholes. I will not back down on this and no justification exists that does not include some severe form of “I don’t care about you or whoever’s with you”. Animals always have it rough. Pets have the care of their owners but most don’t. Kids can have it rough too, if they’re sensible to it, and frankly most kids I’ve known have a hard time with it. And there are lots of other people who might not be kids but still suffer with these things. Multiple times in my life I’ve had to help with kids or teenagers who were very scared of fireworks but found themselves unawaringly close to fireworks about to go off. I’m especially reminded of a teenage girl who was laying down, terrified and crying because suddenly there were fireworks that no one was expecting.

Nothing is worth this kind of shit.

 

Lot of angry Ree starting the New Years as expected

Most teenagers are afraid of fireworks?  And lol at the PTSD part.  People on era claiming they have it like they served in Fallujah.  And then whenever a real vet foolish enough to shows up in a thread they call him a baby killer, fascist, nazi who just wants to shoot brown people.

Face it.  People are having fun and that gets you mad.  Don't bring vets into this or "most teenagers," who are actually scared.

Have you met any teenagers lately? They've all got some sort of PTSD, ADHD, LGBTQ, WTF, WWE, STD, or something...

And that in itself is basically a mental illness potentially requiring psychiatric treatment now:

Social media as an incubator of personality and behavioral psychopathology: Symptom and disorder authenticity or psychosomatic social contagion?

There has been an increasing recognition among both medical and psychological professionals, as well as the public media, of a concerning trend for child and adolescent users of audiovisual-based, algorithmic social media platforms (e.g., TikTok) to present with or claim functional psychiatric impairment that is inconsistent with or distinct from classic psychiatric nosology. In this short communication, we provide a detailed historical overview of this transdiagnostic phenomenon and suggest a conceptual model to organize thinking and research examining it. We then discuss the implications of our suggested model for accurate assessment, diagnosis, and medical-psychiatric treatment.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0010440X22000682

[BIONIC]

I have sexual relations with bionic‘s mom.

[Nintex]

Nep Nep lives in los santos

[Potato]

Yes, fuck all animals and people with ptsd. Also fireworks are terrible for the environment and have caused awful fires on the west coast. At the most I’m fine with them in the hands of professionals. They should be banned for purchase by the average dipshit.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/people-who-set-off-fireworks-in-residential-neighborhoods-can-get-fucked.670675/#post-98986903
John Kowalski

People who do this are absolute assholes. I will not back down on this and no justification exists that does not include some severe form of “I don’t care about you or whoever’s with you”. Animals always have it rough. Pets have the care of their owners but most don’t. Kids can have it rough too, if they’re sensible to it, and frankly most kids I’ve known have a hard time with it. And there are lots of other people who might not be kids but still suffer with these things. Multiple times in my life I’ve had to help with kids or teenagers who were very scared of fireworks but found themselves unawaringly close to fireworks about to go off. I’m especially reminded of a teenage girl who was laying down, terrified and crying because suddenly there were fireworks that no one was expecting.

Nothing is worth this kind of shit.

 

Lot of angry Ree starting the New Years as expected

Most teenagers are afraid of fireworks?  And lol at the PTSD part.  People on era claiming they have it like they served in Fallujah.  And then whenever a real vet foolish enough to shows up in a thread they call him a baby killer, fascist, nazi who just wants to shoot brown people.

Face it.  People are having fun and that gets you mad.  Don't bring vets into this or "most teenagers," who are actually scared.

Have you met any teenagers lately? They've all got some sort of PTSD, ADHD, LGBTQ, WTF, WWE, STD, or something...

And that in itself is basically a mental illness potentially requiring psychiatric treatment now:

Social media as an incubator of personality and behavioral psychopathology: Symptom and disorder authenticity or psychosomatic social contagion?

There has been an increasing recognition among both medical and psychological professionals, as well as the public media, of a concerning trend for child and adolescent users of audiovisual-based, algorithmic social media platforms (e.g., TikTok) to present with or claim functional psychiatric impairment that is inconsistent with or distinct from classic psychiatric nosology. In this short communication, we provide a detailed historical overview of this transdiagnostic phenomenon and suggest a conceptual model to organize thinking and research examining it. We then discuss the implications of our suggested model for accurate assessment, diagnosis, and medical-psychiatric treatment.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0010440X22000682

 
Fucking hate this current generation of attention seeking fuckwits. I hope my children's generation is able to break out of this absurdity.

[PogiJones]

I’ve read that entire B-Chuds and co. quoteathon.

I am now much much dumber as a result.

I hate you, benji.

I didn’t read it, would you mind writing a summary of those posts

Thank you.

Sure thing. To summarize,

Relatedly, this is going on in the Andrew Tate thread: https://www.resetera.com/threads/andrew-tate-seemingly-arrested-in-romania-in-human-trafficking-probe.669967/post-98982502

What’s the appeal of this guy? He’s a cartoon character. Apparently he has tons of fanboys.

Being really real, how many positive male role models are out there for young boys right now? We had Chadwick Boseman, RDJ, and Chris Evans in the past, but now? Unfortunately, he fills that void.

We were talking about this earlier.

This is really a conversation the left, collectively, is going to have to have.

The thing is people will paint it as just white boys, but it's really not. Tate's crap is transcending racial lines. He's been influencing an entire generation of impressionable kids and nobody has paid him much attention or even attempted to offer a better option. Until that happens, he'll just be replaced by the next asshole grifter.

They killed or exiled the leaders of the Civil Rights movment, leading the way for hoteppery to guide the youth.

It's boys in general though. First you had Peterson, then he got foisted by his own bullshit. Then Tate took his place, now he's gone as a result of his bullshit. It's all the same issue and it's really only been the last decade or so.

There's an inherent fascism to superheroes. I wouldn't consider them good role models in the slightest.

And this is the problem I'm dancing around. This statement right here. We're all so eager to tear shit down that nobody gets built up

Why do young boys need some creepy cult leader to lead them? I never had anything like that growing up. Celebrity worship has always existed but I don’t recall it being a rite of passage to be weaned by these dreadful misogynistic online personalities, where apparently the magical cure to depression is to really hate women.

Nobody is going to magically replace that. Anyone “nicer” to lead these kids in the same way is going to be a G-rated version and arguably even more insidious, because he’ll couch all of it in euphemisms. That’s no better.

I don’t know what the actual answer is. But I don’t think think there’s some magical wholesome figure to come in and grab the Peterson/Tate audience, especially when vocal portion consists of hateful sexists who yearn for Tom Cruise’s character in Magnolia to reinforce that.

I'm not talking about a cult leader, I'm talking about a role model. Someone to look up to. Kids have always had role models, from actors to athletes. Young people need role models because they're trying to figure out who they are as people, they're trying on different personas and looking for something that feels right. Has everyone really forgotten what it was to be young and impressionable?

This was exactly what I was going to say! Thank you, it’s such a problem.

Like, I'm not saying don't call out bad shit but it feels like sometimes we're reaching so hard that you could pull a muscle. Like with the post I quoted.

Superhero comics were literally created by a pair of Jewish guys so that somebody would actually punch Hitler in the face because nobody else was willing to step up and do the job. And apparently that's fascist.

The message in 90% of cape comics is that the hero can't fix the world alone and needs help doing it. Batman's literally got a small army of Robins to help him ffs.

We need to normalise the idea that role models can be anyone and not be specific to your own gender.

Continuing the idea that men are different from women does nothing but enforce differences through societal pressure.

Basically society needs to change to a point where kids, especially boys, are brought up to idolise good people and not someone who can show you how to be a 'good man'.

Fuck gender norms basically and focus on universal behaviours instead.

I swear to god, some of you forgot what it is to be kids.

I swear to god, some of you think that a different world isn't possible.

Do you think kids just learn things from thin air?

No, they are influenced by the adults in their lives and the media surrounding them.

If those things are enforcing the idea that men and women are different, they will believe it. If instead people were brought up to simply be good people and not focus on the difference between boys and girls, it would be different.

Millions of kids grow up without male figures in their lives or have non stereotypical parents and yet they grow up to be strong and well adjusted people but apparently that isn't possible according to some people.

All your post does is come across like nurture doesn't exist but nature does.

You're literally going to cede entire generations of young boys to the alt right because you refuse to let a man be a role model for young boys. Like, dude, seriously?

No, we are in this mess because boys are brought up through adults and media telling them to be men which leads to generations of boys having to question what it means to be a man instead of focusing on what it means to be a good person.

No. No. Absolutely no.

Not only is this wrong, it's incredibly toxic. We should not be positing the idea that maleness and/or masculinity is inherently negative. That's what we should be fighting against and providing positive alternatives to.

Here's an example: I'm a Queer Black person.

When I need to commune regarding my identity as a Queer person, I seek out other Queer people.

When I need to commune regarding my identity as a Black person, I seek out other Black people.

When I need to commune regarding my identity as a Queer Black person, I seek out other Queer Black People.

Do you know I don't seek out? At any point as it relates to how I see myself in the world? Cis white women. Because what are they going to do for me?

That's how you sound right now.

The majority of male influences and influencers are incredible toxic. But that's something that should be addressed. Not treated as immovable truth.

It’s true that positive masculinity is always problematic to some extent, even as concept, let alone how it’s often depicted especially in pop culture. I would say my formative role model for “masculinity” outside of immediate family was found in actors like Harrison Ford, and much has been said and written about how problematic 80s Hollywood depictions of masculinity were.

Which again is nothing compared to the Andrew Tates and Jordan Petersons of the world who are actively trying to recruit misguided young men to their purpose. They are cult leaders.

“What does positive masculinity look like?” How about some regular ass human beings acting like human beings?

This is literally the worst way to look at the problem. It's inherently toxic because it assumes that masculinity is inherently toxic.

This kind of overlaps with something I've thought about in the past:

Since the Women's Liberation movement, if you were to ask a broad spectrum of people what a "real woman" is or what women "should" be like, you'll get a lot of shitty misogynistic answers but also a lot of "whatever she wants"-style answers.

If you were to ask the same questions but about what "real man" is or what men "should" be like, I'm not sure if you would get those "whatever he wants" sort of answers to the same degree. And that's a problem. I don't think there's been a broad social movement to fully question and reconstruct the concept of masculinity in a more freeing way. We got part of the way there with broader acceptance of LGBT+ stuff but that's not a perfect overlap with the issue.

I mean, I've never actually gone around and asked this, nor did I grow up with male expectations placed on me, so I can't be sure, but there was quite a lot of explicit messaging over the years to normalize the idea that the feminine identity doesn't need to and shouldn't be so rigid and I don't really remember seeing the same sort of explicit messaging for men very much.

This, ironically, is part of what we were discussing last night. While we tear down the misogynist's idea of what a woman is, we fail to build a new idea of what a man can be. That results in a lack of new, positive, role models. As a result we all get stuck pushing the same sort of toxic masculinity that has always been pushed, all while talking about how we need to tear it down.

Yeah, like, I think those guys are the model but we need more of them and ones who are younger.

Look at what happened to Simu Liu, his ass got torn down almost immediately over some reddit posts that got taken completely out of context. If we're being totally honest, we're all way too eager to tear people down. There's people that 1000% deserve it, but in the last few years people have gotten way too used to just looking for reasons to dunk on each other and that shit ain't healthy for nobody.

The purity testing especially when it comes to twitter can be at times grating but it can also be a useful tool to gauge whether or not a person has made meaningful change in their lives. Like, "progressives" like Destiny would most likely still argue about the supposed benefits of using slurs in a private setting.

It ain't just Twitter, that shit has been spreading everywhere. It's here too.

It is here, absolutely, hell, i've participated in it and
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It is pervasive on the internet, and honestly it's because things keep reaching their natural extreme. It's hard NOT to constantly be angry when it hasn't been a month since we had to genuinely codify interracial and LBGT marriage or that we had several states outlaw slavery in 2022. I do not begrudge the angry touchy people who put down people over even minor things. Shit shouldn't be so bad in the first place. Yes there is a convo to be had wherein we should encourage others to not be at a 11/10 for like, ANY topic regardless of context. That does get exhausting.

You're completely ignoring the big issue: Twitter and Facebook. Everything you're describing was a thing before we saw the rise of social media and social media companies tuning their algorithms to specifically push outrage and divisiveness. And yet we'll all totally ignore their role in our modern society and blame everything but them

The big thing that pisses me off to no end is that we know for a FACT that social media companies changed their algorithms to push negativity and divisiveness. We had people calling it out when it happened and yet they get no blame for where we are right now. People will actively whitewash their shit.

Before we saw the rise of social media as we know it today a lot of the internet, aka the "lawless flame war" days was defined by how edgy people could be. And yea there's been a metric fuckton of pushback because it would be terrible for the internet to ever go back to that. Which yea, has led to a lot of reactionary anger even at people who don't even deserve it regardless of context. And yea absolutely social media companies have played a crucial role in the divisive reactionary nature of the internet for max profits.

Gonna be real, I've been online for like 20 years now. In big spaces. It's never been this bad. Ever.

You can hate Hitler and still have a fundamentally fascist worldview, even without realizing it. When the Frankfurt school theorists ended up in California after fleeing the Holocaust they looked at Hollywood and pointed out how the American culture industry functioned in the same way as culture in nazi Germany. It worse not, things have not changed for the better.

As for superheros, like magic, they are an inegalitarian idea/ideology. The basic premise is that some humans are somehow more than others. Just like fascist ideology. I'm not even going to get into the fact that by far most super heroes in practice act like policemen, protecting the status quo.

Like you point out, these comics are somewhat aware of the impotence of heroes, but unfortunately they have a complete lack of self-awareness for how their existence is a symptom of ideology. Nolan's Dark Knight Returns is a particularly egregious example of this... That said, important themes such as racism and feminism and so on can be processed in this structure and that can be valuable, as long as one understands that there is a deep neoliberal ideology(which is also where wokeism comes from) that sits at the core of it all.

Rather than having a caped guy punching Hitler, there could have been another kind of story, where ordinary people through collaboration tear down fascist institutions and overthrow (and by all means, beat up) Adolf. The idea that we need some super hero(or any hero at all) to come in and fix things, I think, is ultimately is connected to the same kind of ideology that justifies the beliefs of people like Peterson and Tate. It boils down to some regressive ideas about taking responsibility but completely misses the point that it's impossible to take responsibility in a capitalist society.

Speaking about the need for role models. Yes we need them, but they absolutely need to not be fictional characters or celebrities. They need to be real people who are actually in engaged in the lives of these kids.

God, you're dumb as a back of rocks aren't you? *Checks ban history* yup, you are.

wow, ok. I guess I'll see myself out. In fact I'll happily take a permanent ban now, you've demonstrated why it's pointless to engage in discussion here.

btw, if memory serves me right, most of my bans were handed down for trying to discuss the politics of piracy(which I argued can be justified in certain situations, but that's apparently bannable here).

Yeah, I honestly think the whole discussion about role models is missing the forest from the trees or at the very least oversimplifying the issue; boys and men who follow Tate are misogynistic, not just lacking in role models. Sure, positive role models can't hurt, but hey, if girls could manage to not turn into raging sociopaths when lacking a female role model, why can't boys? And do we really think that a positive male role model would prevent boys susceptible to such blatant misogyny from following fuckwits like Tate and his ilk? I doubt it.

Women absolutely do turn into raging sociopaths, though. They absolutely do.

Or do we need another election to see a plurality of white woman upholding the patriarchy?

Or do we need yet another video of a white woman going Mega Karen? That “Karen” exists as a meme at all is telling.

It looks different for women than it does for men, and maybe the degrees of harm is different, but we can’t be completely ignorant of the fact that boys are in the state they’re in when, on the left, we treat it as a problem not even worth addressing.

This shit. This shit right here. White women have been sociopaths from the shadows. Shit, out in the open even.

People often express hate for this opinion of mine, but I grew up without any role models as far as I could tell, and due to that I've never understood the need for role models that everyone at large seems to clamor about. The dangers of idolization and putting people on a pedestal always seemed more dangerous to me than the benefit of role models. If anything, despite not having role models, I wish when I was a child that people told me more about how fallible humans tend to be, and that many people that others make out to be heroes were actually grotesque sacks of shit. I think children learning about how bigotry manifests in our world is far more important than having positive role models.

As for combatting people like Tate, it seems pretty obvious to me that the biggest factor is for major platforms to identify and ban bigots before they become huge to the point where they no longer need those platforms to sustain their wealth.
There will always be corners of the internet where foul people congregate, but if Tate was permabanned from the major players (Facebook, Tiktok, Twitter, YouTube, etc) before his account grew past 50k followers, I can't imagine kids in school would know his name.

Saying "we need more role models for boys" seems more like a scapegoat to me; it's also not something most people can do anything about unless they were already planning to go into a career that involves children. On the other hand, wanting platforms to identify and ban bigots (before they become millionaires rather than after) is something people can actually rally for pretty easily. Because these platforms are the ones with the power to actually do something, and they don't. The Quartering was banned from freakin' Magic the Gathering tournaments yet as far as I know he still has a YouTube channel - shit like that should be unacceptable.

The other issue (that most people on this forum aren't ready for) which I also feel is far more pertinent than "lack of positive role models" is our capitalistic society that says how important you are is equatable with how wealthy you are. If we live under capitalism, parasites like Tate will tag along.

wow, ok. I guess I'll see myself out. In fact I'll happily take a permanent ban now, you've demonstrated why it's pointless to engage in discussion here.

btw, if memory serves me right, most of my bans were handed down for trying to discuss the politics of piracy(which I argued can be justified in certain situations, but that's apparently bannable here).

I thought you made a good post. I don't know why the General Manager is being so insulting and dismissive, but I've noticed they do that often. Or why only one other poster here addressed it. It seems a big deal to me.
I'm also doubting why I'm even here given that. Given my issues with anxiety and depression, making a thoughtful post then getting a dismissive, insulting response like that from the GM with no recourse available would destroy me, so I don't think it's worth the risk posting here for me. I hope you're okay.

Good talk everyone.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/anyone-else-get-fucking-furious-when-they-get-sick.671041/

What a great start to 2023. Out of nowhere I’m feeling a disgusting, rotten feeling in my throat that always signals the start of a cold for me. I hate it. I get so angry because it’s so debilitating and ruins everything. I’m fully prepared tonight to wake up every hour or so to spit out my nasty, mucus filled saliva because I’m not swallowing that shit. Every time I do it tastes like sewage. I’m probably the only one who does this but I can’t stand it. I also had a dinner planned on Tuesday with some family and now I’m probably not going to that. I’m probably not going to the gym now which also pisses me off. I hate missing the gym because of a stupid cold. I was supposed to hit a new bench press PR too. Fuck this. Video games are also significantly less fun. Food tastes like shit. Water tastes like shit. I can seriously complain all day about how much I hate being sick. Fuck being sick. It’s so fucking stupid.

[Pissy F Benny]

Seems p ableist if you ask me

[Averon]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/deadline-jeremy-renner-in-%E2%80%9Ccritical-but-stable%E2%80%9D-condition-in-reno-after-weather-related-accident-while-plowing-snow.671023/

Another thread of a dead/dying celeb. Another thread of digging through that person's past so they can justify to themselves that their grave dancing isn't tacky and obscene. In this case, though, there's push back, likely because the actor here is a prominent MCU figure with no obvious dirt to use against him, but not for a lack of trying.

Absolutely despise this trend of airing people’s dirty laundry when they’re either dead or at death’s door. People lose all sense of shame or decency when it comes to the lives of celebrities/public figures.

What if a bunch of people came to your funeral, talked shit about you, and ran down a list of your supposed sins?

This has been how ERA's operated since the beginning, my guy. You know damn well the second any news breaks about an actor/actress, you got at least half a dozen ERA members digging through Twitter and their past to be the first one to post how they failed ERA's morality test and that it OK to shit on them in that thread. It's one of ERA's favorite past times.
 

[davepoobond]

Seems p ableist if you ask me

Just replace the word “cold” with any disability or marginalized group!

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/japan-to-offer-families-%C2%A51mn-per-child-to-leave-tokyo.671068/#post-99038473

Why not open the country for imigration? There are millions of people in the world eager to emigrate, so catching 3 or 4 million to japan would be really easy.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/female-rap-legend-gangsta-boo-passed-away-yall.670954/
Incoming rip bans!

[paprikastaude]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/study-claims-to-reveal-the-10-most-anticipated-games-of-2023.671125/

People looking forward to Harry Potter? In 2023??? RIGGED POLL

[Taco Bell Tower]

I wish J.K Rolling were a good human because then we could freely discuss Hogwarts Legacy here.

Why does she have to suck?

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/twitter-rival-mastodon-rejects-funding-from-silicon-valley-based-investors-to-preserve-nonprofit-status.670969/page-2#post-99045145

I'm a tech boomer from the IRC era so this server/channel thing is not strange to me, but nothing can get me to use Mastodon over Twitter because of it.

I really don't see it as a Twitter competitor, there's no mass appeal.

Wrong

Whoever say the name is terrible has no creativity .

I'm not a big fan of the name, but the way some people here are making it out to be such a deal breaker is crazy to me. In a world where "Facebook" and "WhatsApp" are used by billions of people? People can get past a clunky name if the product is there.

That's Mastodon's biggest problem in terms of user growth: does its product have mass appeal? Not "does its name have mass appeal?"

It’s a twitter clone with multiple servers . It’s basically Reddit with microblogging.

[Daffy Duck]

Just read that huge entire exchange, wow they’re clueless, it’s hilarious.

They just love to tear into the cis white male and perpetuate how toxic he is and constantly tear them down, is it any wonder they lap up the shit people like Tate serve when the extremists on the left are constantly tearing into them and saying how awful they are?

[Pissy F Benny]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/twitter-rival-mastodon-rejects-funding-from-silicon-valley-based-investors-to-preserve-nonprofit-status.670969/page-2#post-99045145

I'm a tech boomer from the IRC era so this server/channel thing is not strange to me, but nothing can get me to use Mastodon over Twitter because of it.

I really don't see it as a Twitter competitor, there's no mass appeal.

Wrong

Whoever say the name is terrible has no creativity .

I'm not a big fan of the name, but the way some people here are making it out to be such a deal breaker is crazy to me. In a world where "Facebook" and "WhatsApp" are used by billions of people? People can get past a clunky name if the product is there.

That's Mastodon's biggest problem in terms of user growth: does its product have mass appeal? Not "does its name have mass appeal?"

It’s a twitter clone with multiple servers . It’s basically Reddit with microblogging.

And a shit load of paedos

Gonna go out on a limb and say thats why they don't want the investment, cuz with the money comes the scrutiny

[Nintex]

These clowns still don't get it.

Mastodon isn't meant for the masses. It was created to evade censorship which made it a safe haven for both Linux users as well as hackers, terrorists, extremists and pedophiles. Sort of in between 4chan and the darkweb.
It is meant to be obtuse and difficult to use by design. That's why they're also not taking investor money because they would have to answer to those investors which the digital incarnation of Occupy Wall Street would rather not.
The server set-up and everything is in concept quite similar to the Torrents and News Groups of old. If you know what you're doing you can download pristine collections of documentaries and rare ROMS if you don't you will end up with a HDD filled with porn ads, viruses and trojans at best and copyright claims at worst. Mastodon's solution to the influx of 'illegal content' was to give users an options to hide it (or rather show it).

Other Twitter replacements like Truth Social work better as they are designed to be easy to use for ex-Presidents who understand how Twitter works.
And unlike Mastodon is less at risk from being flooded with illegal content (although they had their fair share of issues with ISIS users early on  ) because it is simply another venue for conservatives to be cucked by Trump. A digital mar-a-lago if you will.

The reality is that the perfect replacement for ResetEra and the journo's would be a Twitter clone like Truth Social that panders exclusively to the liberuls and faux progressives.
However, the sad fact is that no one is willing or able to fund such a platform as they know it would be the social media equivalent of CNN+ or The Witcher: Blood Origin.

[Kurt Russell]

Mastodon isn't meant for the masses. It was created to evade censorship which made it a safe haven for both Linux users as well as hackers, terrorists, extremists and pedophiles.

Occam BTFO

[Polident Hive]

From the outside looking in, Twitter is the same as it was two months ago. People were excessively dramatic for no reason. Pretty funny how people are actually paying the $8 fee. Have some self respect.

[Snoopycat_]

B Dubs allowed the crazies to back him so far into a corner he can’t allow any discussion about the biggest game of the year. Lol.

[Nintex]

From the outside looking in, Twitter is the same as it was two months ago. People were excessively dramatic for no reason. Pretty funny how people are actually paying the $8 fee. Have some self respect.

This is what Elon was counting on and why he had very little risk when he started to change things up.
The 'cost to switch' was simply too high. If you shut down your Twitter, you lose your audience and message history.
So most that left simply kept posting on both platforms, which meant their audience had no reason to switch to Mastodon.

Plus all the governments and corporations that use Twitter for communication and have it run by interns aren't really going to train people in how to use Mastodon.
In the end Twitter got a whole lot of free media attention but I do think Elon expected Trump would start posting again.

[joeboy101]

I wish J.K Rolling were a good human because then we could freely discuss Hogwarts Legacy here.

Why does she have to suck?

I will never understand the terf game being so much anticipated.

From the devs of mostly bad disney shovelware, comes a game with a super weird (to not say borderline nazi) plot that looks super generic, was delayed weirdly some times and has basic content locked in deluxe editions.

nostalgia is a powerfull drug, i guess

The copium is strong with this post.

[HaughtyFrank]

Just read that huge entire exchange, wow they’re clueless, it’s hilarious.

They just love to tear into the cis white male and perpetuate how toxic he is and constantly tear them down, is it any wonder they lap up the shit people like Tate serve when the extremists on the left are constantly tearing into them and saying how awful they are?

Yeah, that's an aspect they completely ignore. As much of a fuckhead and grifter Tate is, he reaches out a hand to all those completely lonely guys, making them think they can make it if they join his dumbfuck club. Meanwhile on RE they're already offended at even the suggestion that a male teenage kid should have a male role model

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/study-claims-to-reveal-the-10-most-anticipated-games-of-2023.671125/page-2#post-99044833

Some people here must live in a really deep bubble if they think Hogwarts being #1 is because of Rowling,

[Propagandhim]

Just read that huge entire exchange, wow they’re clueless, it’s hilarious.

They just love to tear into the cis white male and perpetuate how toxic he is and constantly tear them down, is it any wonder they lap up the shit people like Tate serve when the extremists on the left are constantly tearing into them and saying how awful they are?

Yeah, that's an aspect they completely ignore. As much of a fuckhead and grifter Tate is, he reaches out a hand to all those completely lonely guys, making them think they can make it if they join his dumbfuck club. Meanwhile on RE they're already offended at even the suggestion that a male teenage kid should have a male role model

That's precisely what it is.  Agreed that Tate is a superficial, predatory, criminal imbecile -- but what he teaches is textbook empowerment to people that feel like they have no control or ability to succeed, financially, in relationships, etc.  These people don't want to hear that society is run by a race of people that fix the game against them so there's no point in striving for anything, or that they're a persecuted group that has to beg for crumbs from the dominant forces, or that they're just born without the right genetic attributes to get what they want.  A successful guy telling them that they can be successful too if they just follow his bullshit program is so much more interesting to young men than defeatism.  People will buy any tripe like this - see: The Secret.

[Transhuman]

The one thing I like about Andrew Tate is that he's honest about being a compassionless grifter. Most well-known e-celebs and controversy farmers are grifters on some level, but few say "yeah i'm a scam artist so what, fuck those losers I have their money" You would think that would kill any business he's involved in, but no.

I can't even imagine how transparent the next generation of online con-artistry will be.

[paprikastaude]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/study-claims-to-reveal-the-10-most-anticipated-games-of-2023.671125/page-5

I feel like Hogwarts is far removed enough from JK that discussion here wouldn’t be banned, right? Feels like it’s more about the game and the team behind it than her……like a mod statement about how she isn’t endorsed here would be enough and there could be a thread.

[joeboy101]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/study-claims-to-reveal-the-10-most-anticipated-games-of-2023.671125/page-5

I feel like Hogwarts is far removed enough from JK that discussion here wouldn’t be banned, right? Feels like it’s more about the game and the team behind it than her……like a mod statement about how she isn’t endorsed here would be enough and there could be a thread.

I'm 39 with a career and family. I don't have much time to game these days and the only game I plan on buying on that list is Hogwarts. Starfield looks great but I only have a PS5.

When the game drops, if it ends up being good, I will buy it to support the devs (who have been open on being inclusive) and enjoy it.
J.K Rowling and her rantings will have no bearing on my purchasing decisions.

Not surprising.
Can’t wait to explore Hogwarts but it’s crazy how many non gamer friends are excited about it as well.

I mean, Hogwarts is probably the only game I search for since discussion is banned here lol

Hell I'm not a big fand, just watched the movies like a year ago and I'll probably be there day one

 

[HaughtyFrank]

I wonder if RE will follow r/gamingcirclejerk

[Uncle]

these people with their ultimatums

I have no interest in hogwarts but I think I'll finally boot up cyberpunk to join the proud ranks of transphobes 

[Taco Bell Tower]

Uncle, no!   

[Uncle]

jk rowling's hogwarts video game must be stopped

https://www.reddit.com/r/Gamingcirclejerk/comments/zui5ux/thank_you_all_for_standing_up_to_the_transphobe/



won't someone please think of the children's sexual denominations

think about em and just keep thinking about em

[Propagandhim]

Thinking about how Letitia Wright fell victim to Joanne's seductive genocide ideology and made money off of the bodies of dead trans kids without knowing what she was doing.    Hope she's ok.

[Potato]

Wait, wait, wait, you're telling me that r/gamingcirclejerk is genuinely banning people for discussion of Hogwarts game and it's not just a stupid circle jerk thing?