Other Forums Containment Thread

[clothedmacuser]

The problem is, while users are not being actively malicious, they are clearly, inarguably being indifferent to the issues. People here clearly don't WANT to know or discuss the issues with the franchise. That is and has remained the problem. ERA was created specifically as an escape for marginalized and overlooked people to find a refuge from other places on the internet. We've already have several posters in here and in the other threads speak at length about how the constant cheerleading and stanning for this franchise and its creator makes them feel horrible and not feel like welcome here.

Let ask you, in all earnestness: Do you think that ResetERA is living up to its goal of being a safe, inclusive place when we have several posters here are ignoring and downplaying the concerns and voices of a marginalized group? Are we doing any better than the other places in the internet that we all bemoan and rightfully scorn as cesspools of racism and intolerance?

Cerium: *laughs in $4 million*

It's not indifference of the issue.  It's indifference of you.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/avatar-the-way-of-water-will-gross-2-5-billion-update-faithless-seen-protesting-outside-beijing-film-bureaus-offices.662731/page-150#post-99526012
NepNep

I'll be the one to just straight up ask it:

Why should Indigenous people be polite and level-headed about a film series that by many of their accounts is racist towards them?

This tone-policing wouldn't fly for other ethnic groups like Black people. No one is going to try and Thermian argument their way out of blackface. So what is the difference here?

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/avatar-the-way-of-water-will-gross-2-5-billion-update-faithless-seen-protesting-outside-beijing-film-bureaus-offices.662731/page-150#post-99526012
NepNep

I'll be the one to just straight up ask it:

Why should Indigenous people be polite and level-headed about a film series that by many of their accounts is racist towards them?

This tone-policing wouldn't fly for other ethnic groups like Black people. No one is going to try and Thermian argument their way out of blackface. So what is the difference here?

one of the biggest callouts I always see against religion is when religious people say shit like "you need the rules in the bible so you don't rape anyone. if god didn't tell us not to rape, what would the world look like today??"

and the response is, without divinely-dictated morality, I would rape as much as I feel like, which is exactly zero rapes, because I'm not a monster



so why should indigenous people be polite and level-headed when they're angry?

maybe because they're not monsters?

[Polident Hive]

This isn’t an answer to it. There was a discussion about accents and languages in Black Panther. First was the claim the white producers and directors of his first appearance wanted the character speaking with a British accent. Continues that it was Chadwick Boseman and Ryan Coogler who pushed for him to speak with an African accent. The pitch was how they’d talk if colonialism didn’t reach their fictional culture. That may or may not be true, but previously the character had an African accent in cartoons and video games.

Continued further with the idea they’re all speaking English in an African nation. It’s not Hunt for Red October where it’s for the audience. Or House of Gucci and plenty of other examples. It supposedly extends to the sequel bringing in Mayan characters. Haven’t seen it yet. Something about cakes and eating it too and their solution was eating then vomiting up the cake.

tldr conversation ended with people praising crazy face Mel Gibson for having Apocalypto dialog in a Mayan language and subtitled English.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/avatar-the-way-of-water-will-gross-2-5-billion-update-faithless-seen-protesting-outside-beijing-film-bureaus-offices.662731/page-150#post-99526012
NepNep

I'll be the one to just straight up ask it:

Why should Indigenous people be polite and level-headed about a film series that by many of their accounts is racist towards them?

This tone-policing wouldn't fly for other ethnic groups like Black people. No one is going to try and Thermian argument their way out of blackface. So what is the difference here?

Just a week ago Nepenthe went off about how you can't have a good faith discussion when you instantly accuse the other person of being a shithead asshole.

[Potato]

I'm just chiming in to say that the relentless positivity surrounding this film on this site--and the countless threads about it--are by no means harmless. They do, actually, hurt--as reluctant as I am to admit that.

I just want to say thank you for posting and I'm sorry for any pain that reading through these threads have caused you.

 

"Ok, now pay me."
- Nepenthe

[Averon]

>Ban Baiter: Hey, let's have a discussion about X.
>Poor Sucker: Sure. Here's my perspective on X.
*After 10+ exchanges, Poor Sucker says something that Ban Baiter purposely misconstrues*
>Ban Baiter: Oh, so you're [insert problematic element here].
>Poor Sucker: That's not what I meant!!
*Poor Sucker in vain tries to push back over several posts*
*Ban Baiter continues to strawman Poor Sucker's position on X*
*Poor Sucker is mass reported by Ban Baiter and their friends for [insert problematic element here]*
*Poor Sucker is very publicaly banned*
*Others sees this and are scared off from commenting any further about X and/or Poor Sucker's actual position on X*
*Discussion dies and the "official position" on the subject now aligns with the Ban Baiter's view on penalty of banning.*

rinse and repeat

This flow of events happened all the time in that community, so people who've been there for almost any length of time--like Jett and Sculli-- knows exactly where a "discussion" with people like Messeo, Nexon, Crossing Eden, and/or El Bombastico will end up. Add Nep jumping into the fray, and it's even more obvious that this is all vindictive ban baiting from bitter MCU stans.

[Nintex]

https://twitter.com/GeeksGamersCom/status/1613234291437338625

Should've taken that tax rebate

[Uncle]

>Ban Baiter: Oh, so you're [insert problematic element here].
>Poor Sucker: That's not what I meant!!

having to say "that's not what I meant" after saying something shitty puts you firmly in the company of conservatives 

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/avatar-the-way-of-water-ot-respect-indigenous.663430/
They seriously changed the OT

[HaughtyFrank]

This isn’t an answer to it. There was a discussion about accents and languages in Black Panther. First was the claim the white producers and directors of his first appearance wanted the character speaking with a British accent. Continues that it was Chadwick Boseman and Ryan Coogler who pushed for him to speak with an African accent. The pitch was how they’d talk if colonialism didn’t reach their fictional culture. That may or may not be true, but previously the character had an African accent in cartoons and video games.

Continued further with the idea they’re all speaking English in an African nation. It’s not Hunt for Red October where it’s for the audience. Or House of Gucci and plenty of other examples. It supposedly extends to the sequel bringing in Mayan characters. Haven’t seen it yet. Something about cakes and eating it too and their solution was eating then vomiting up the cake.

tldr conversation ended with people praising crazy face Mel Gibson for having Apocalypto dialog in a Mayan language and subtitled English.

There is a pretty funny moment in the sequel where Namor introduces himself as "Namor" pronouncing it spanish, meaning the "a" sounds like the "a" in car. But when the Wakanda people say his name they always pronounce it "Naymor". Basically some real disrespectful colonizer shit from the African nation.

[Uncle]

https://twitter.com/GeeksGamersCom/status/1613234291437338625

Should've taken that tax rebate

the last two "jokes" in the trailer...what?

I don't even understand what they were supposed to mean?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-19#post-99543775

https://twitter.com/Natedogisdeadlo/status/1611974947626422274?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-19#post-99548182

I’m not conflicted about it whatsoever. My stance from the start is I’m not buying it and whoever does buy it can do what they like but don’t try and make excuses. If you buy this game or anything linked to JK Rowling you don’t care about trans people and are actively funding the movement against trans individuals.

Exactly this. Obviously I can't stop anyone from buying it, but at least be honest about the fact that you don't care about trans people as much about your fucking video game.

And yes, it *does* make you a bad person if you buy it knowing about the damage she's done. Just in case you get confused.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-19#post-99548284

Yes, knowingly supporting a virulently hateful bigot makes you a bad person. Full stop. You can justify it to yourself however you want, but the truth is the truth. If you don’t like that… well, you know what to do.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/avatar-the-way-of-water-ot-respect-indigenous.663430/
They seriously changed the OT

Respect indigenous what? Fruit?

[Nintex]

Well, I'll be honest I care more about video games than I do about trans people.

[Propagandhim]

Basically, if you aren't super, super ignorant of all the crap JK has done(so basically some people who don't use social media at all and live outside the UK) and after everything you still choose to buy the game I'll side eye you. Bonus side eyes for any excuses like:

Think of the devs! (you don't actually care about the devs)
But, but Lovecraft!
Separate art from artist.
JK has billions already so it doesn't matter

Massive bonus points for "I care about trans people but..........."

No you don't.

This is a legitimate argument, though.  She's already a rich and powerful billionaire, and all she's done is tweet a few times to piss you off.   

If you buy this game or anything linked to JK Rowling you don’t care about trans people and are actively funding the movement against trans individuals.

   What movement?  And how is it not already funded?  Does JK Rowling need another billion before the movement comes to fruition and unleashes the trans death squads?

[Propagandhim]

I went to EVO once and UltraChen did an interview panel with Fanatiq. It was meh but my encounter with Art was something. I had a FF6 shirt on and the crowd is moving a lot and I’m near a wall and look over and there he is. I’m like “hey I know you go by Sabin I’m a big FF6 fan too” and point at my shirt. He looks at me, punches the wall and I walk off.

 

[Uncle]

propagandhe/him, please explain the last two velma jokes to me

[BIONIC]

propagandhe/him

[Uncle]

I'm a better joke writer than the velma writers

[Vertigo]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/skinamarink-2022-dir-kyle-edward-ball.648762/#post-99084604

This thread cracks me up

The only way to currently see this movie is to pirate it. And yet nearly everyone in the thread whose seen the movie has wisely not said how they got to see it so early.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://twitter.com/FeoUltima/status/1612758160502149120

CROSSING THE STREAMS 

[Uncle]

https://twitter.com/FeoUltima/status/1612758160502149120

CROSSING THE STREAMS 

I was just gonna say, era found the casus belli to hate a "woke" show now 

https://twitter.com/KatiKnitt/status/1612918990480744508

[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Leave Nep alone y’all.

I am so fucking tired.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/company-plans-to-build-largest-lithium-mine-in-the-us-on-the-sacred-site-of-native-american-massacres.674515/#post-99549919

[BIONIC]

That entire Velma Twitter thread is fucking deranged 

[HaughtyFrank]

Leave Nep alone y’all.

I am so fucking tired.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/company-plans-to-build-largest-lithium-mine-in-the-us-on-the-sacred-site-of-native-american-massacres.674515/#post-99549919

Doesn't the mining company know that they just changed the Avatar OT title to "Respect the indigenous"?

[BIONIC]

Leave Nep alone y’all.

I am so fucking tired.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/company-plans-to-build-largest-lithium-mine-in-the-us-on-the-sacred-site-of-native-american-massacres.674515/#post-99549919

I'm just so tired.

Sounds like a vitamin deficiency

[Uncle]

EXCLUSIVE: does exposure to lithium cause drowsiness? experts weigh in

[BIONIC]

Leave Nep alone y’all.

I am so fucking tired.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/company-plans-to-build-largest-lithium-mine-in-the-us-on-the-sacred-site-of-native-american-massacres.674515/#post-99549919

Doesn't the mining company know that they just changed the Avatar OT title to "Respect the indigenous"?

There’s no “the” 

[Sideshow Raheem]

That entire Velma Twitter thread is fucking deranged 

Will watch. I expect the show to be doubleplusungood but not as bad as its overwrought Entertainment Weekly review.

https://ew.com/tv/tv-reviews/velma-review-scooby-doo-hbo-max/

[Snoopycat_]

It's time for the monthly TLOU 2 thread where ree pretends to be some naive innocent who doesn't understand why some people didn't like it, but somehow knows all those critics are chuds -

I know chuds are going to be chuds, but what in the flying fuck is the controversy here? A minor character is trans? Joel dies? They humanize a group of people who seem like monsters at the start of the game. They turn the mirror on Ellie and show that she's actually pretty terrible herself?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lttp-the-last-of-us-part-2-this-was-controversial-spoilers.673777/

[Boredfrom]

We are Jett

Jett’s an obnoxious cunt himself

We are all obnoxious cunts.

But Jett is as bad and irritating as anyone bitching about Avatar at RE, but he usually had the “correct” opinion and mostly limited to films and games, so he could be an abrasive asshole to anyone.

[Uncle]

That entire Velma Twitter thread is fucking deranged 

Will watch. I expect the show to be doubleplusungood but not as bad as its overwrought Entertainment Weekly review.

https://ew.com/tv/tv-reviews/velma-review-scooby-doo-hbo-max/

Velma is not white, obvs. Nor is she straight, which caused much excitement online. (A key subplot is a bit deflating on that front, though, less "She-Ra and Catra are dancing!" than "Alex kisses Marissa and Seth.") Obviously, anyone upset about these identity shifts is the worst. But beyond the conceptual wow of half-century-old characters suddenly having definable traits, Velma plays out like any other prequel.

"Normally origin stories are about tall handsome guys struggling with a burden of being handed even more power," Velma narrates. "And if they are about girls, it's usually like: Hey, what made this hot chick go crazy?" Look, male origins are terrible, end them all. But also, rude to Black Widow, Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel, Rey, and most Catwomen. We're nowhere near origin equity, but it's a mark much missed to say female backstories are only Crazy Hotness.

writing as bad as modern shows

"as we all know, _________________"

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Leave Nep alone y’all.

I am so fucking tired.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/company-plans-to-build-largest-lithium-mine-in-the-us-on-the-sacred-site-of-native-american-massacres.674515/#post-99549919

If only they could go protest or something

Words matter more though

[Boredfrom]

Harley Quinn is surely Velma's ultraviolent-femslash touchstone, but that great cartoon is crazy with purpose. Batman drowned a while ago in a molten core of self-serious ponderousness wrapped in a candy shell of male grievance. It means something to re-orbit Gotham around funny bisexual supervillain girlfriends.

And is, you know… actually funny. The series enjoy the absurdity of superheros and supervillains, then just being a star vehicle for a comedian ( something that most people at RE bitched about Black Adam, funny enough).

It means something because the show accomplishes being both funny and having a progressive blend without feeling soulless or just being pandering to shallow tumbler fans just because they like seeing “bisexual supervillain girlfriends”.

[Boredfrom]

Mindy Kaling's HBO Max reboot makes Harley Quinn look... well, much better than Velma.

WTF that means outside stating the obvious? Is like saying: “volition’s New Saints Row reboot game makes the old Saints Row games look… well, much better than Saints Row (2022)”.

Like the reviewer cannot trust himself to say that looking media with identity politics lenz doesn’t make the work worthwhile by itself.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/had-my-first-really-awful-panic-attack-last-week.674479/

Last Friday I was driving to pick up some dinner when out of nowhere my head started feeling super strange, and it was tingly all over. It basically felt like I was dying and I was convinced I was dying. I had to pull over and eventually that part stopped but I had extreme disassociation for the following hours. Was also shaking and my chest hurt. My heart rate was kinda normal and didn’t spike anywhere crazy. But the strangest thing was how it came out of nowhere.

I had therapy the next day and my therapist taught me some breathing techniques to help and some methods of getting myself out of that mindset. But ever since Friday I’ve been worried about having another one and that in turn is making me anxious. I try to just bring my thoughts back to my breathing and it usually helps.

I‘m posting not to just put my feelings onto this site because I’ve done that in the past and now that I’m in kind of a good place mentally I don’t really feel the need to do it. But I feel alone when it comes to this. My mom has had panic attacks like this a few times so she helped me, but my dad doesn’t believe it was a panic attack and was asking about my vitamin D or blood sugar. He never really understands mental health. My wife and I have been trying to take care of our health lately and we’ve been eating better and working out 30 mins a night. It’s made me feel better, but I am just so worried about this that it’s hard to enjoy anything anymore. I would love to hear your experience with panic attacks and any tips you have to help my anxiety.

 

[BrokenVerses]

It's time for the monthly TLOU 2 thread where ree pretends to be some naive innocent who doesn't understand why some people didn't like it, but somehow knows all those critics are chuds -

I know chuds are going to be chuds, but what in the flying fuck is the controversy here? A minor character is trans? Joel dies? They humanize a group of people who seem like monsters at the start of the game. They turn the mirror on Ellie and show that she's actually pretty terrible herself?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lttp-the-last-of-us-part-2-this-was-controversial-spoilers.673777/

I played it when it came out so it's been a minute. But isn't everyone Ellie killed done so in self-defense in outright combat situations and all her friends volunteered to come with her on her revenge mission? And she's seeking revenge on the person that slowly and brutally murdered her father figure in front of her? I'm not seeing really any terribleness from Ellie here.

[clothedmacuser]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/avatar-the-way-of-water-will-gross-2-5-billion-update-faithless-seen-protesting-outside-beijing-film-bureaus-offices.662731/post-99527254

You're weaponizing friends and community leaders to dismiss actual Indigenous members' concerns here though.

Are you an indigenous native american?  I fucking hate the idea of her speaking up for us.

Her and Excel.  They go so far out of the way to make native americans every part of their arguments.  I wish I could Will Smith them and say, "keep our names out of your mouth, you liberal ass Karen who thinks you speak for me."


I'm not sure about Bombastico.  If he's actually native american I can't use that line on him.

I just want to know why it was cool calling Cameron a rapist in that thread. People have been prem'd for less on this site.

Literally no one reported it, and it was self-edited by the member in question before it was brought to our attention here. We say this all the time: if you feel someone is way out of pocket, report it so it can be brought to staff's attention in a timely manner.

Ah yes, nobody "Submitted a Ticket" for it.  And it was later edited.  Because once you edit a post you can't be banned for what you said. 

Hahah, and timely manner.  Jackass, you just had a therad where you banned people for things they said over three months ago. 

Era "Tickets,"




Nepenthe is always to first to tell others to firebomb the parking dept. for facist behavior and then turn around and say order, justice, and proper paperwork must prevail.

[Uncle]

It's time for the monthly TLOU 2 thread where ree pretends to be some naive innocent who doesn't understand why some people didn't like it, but somehow knows all those critics are chuds -

I know chuds are going to be chuds, but what in the flying fuck is the controversy here? A minor character is trans? Joel dies? They humanize a group of people who seem like monsters at the start of the game. They turn the mirror on Ellie and show that she's actually pretty terrible herself?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lttp-the-last-of-us-part-2-this-was-controversial-spoilers.673777/

I played it when it came out so it's been a minute. But isn't everyone Ellie killed done so in self-defense in outright combat situations and all her friends volunteered to come with her on her revenge mission? And she's seeking revenge on the person that slowly and brutally murdered her father figure in front of her? I'm not seeing really any terribleness from Ellie here.

even if ellie isn't terrible, that's the message the devs hamfistedly try to jam into your brain

see, because revenge is bad, for any reason, and if you try to get revenge then you'll lose some of your fingers and you won't be able to play the guitar anymore and can't even cherish the memory of the person you were fighting for and what he taught you, because revenge is bad

[Boredfrom]

https://twitter.com/GeeksGamersCom/status/1613234291437338625

Should've taken that tax rebate

the last two "jokes" in the trailer...what?

I don't even understand what they were supposed to mean?

The one before the HBO Max logo:I imagine the that is a diss to a lot of true crime authors being women (and having the genre being labeled as being directed to soccer moms).

The other… 420 is slang for cannabis, but I imagine that punchline is that Velma things it has to do with /co/ esque imageboards, so kind of self depreciating joke. (The only people interested in this show are man babies from imageboards like me )

There was a ton of “self depreciating” jokes in the last preview that didn’t land because doesn’t seem to know what is the punchline.

[Uncle]

https://twitter.com/GeeksGamersCom/status/1613234291437338625

Should've taken that tax rebate

the last two "jokes" in the trailer...what?

I don't even understand what they were supposed to mean?

The one before the HBO Max logo:I imagine the that is a diss to a lot of true crime authors being women (and having the genre being labeled as being directed to soccer moms).

The other… 420 is slang for cannabis, but I imagine that punchline is that Velma things it has to do with /co/ esque imageboards, so kind of self depreciating joke. (The only people interested in this show are man babies from imageboards like me )

There was a ton of “self depreciating” jokes in the last preview that didn’t land because doesn’t seem to know what is the punchline.

first one: but she says "like every other woman solving murders these days" so it's talking about the detectives, not the authors or audience. it's like a joke where the new shitty video game character turns to the camera and says "what, you were expecting a blue hedgehog?" except I don't recognize what the hedgehog is in this case

are there multiple fictional or real detectives who are drunk and have custody issues?

second one: on the surface yeah she's apparently too nerdy to know what the word means. but "420 is code for adults who still watch cartoons." how would you use that in a sentence? "I was talking to this guy the other day and I could tell he was a 420." "don't argue with the 420s online." no one ever uses 420 in that context so it doesn't make sense that she could've gotten that impression

it's a half-formed idea that ends up being nonsense

here's how it should've gone: "uh, yeah, that's code for the time everyone rushes home to watch those adult cartoons, right?" that would demonstrate naivete about what everyone is actually running off to do

[Boredfrom]

It's time for the monthly TLOU 2 thread where ree pretends to be some naive innocent who doesn't understand why some people didn't like it, but somehow knows all those critics are chuds -

I know chuds are going to be chuds, but what in the flying fuck is the controversy here? A minor character is trans? Joel dies? They humanize a group of people who seem like monsters at the start of the game. They turn the mirror on Ellie and show that she's actually pretty terrible herself?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lttp-the-last-of-us-part-2-this-was-controversial-spoilers.673777/

I played it when it came out so it's been a minute. But isn't everyone Ellie killed done so in self-defense in outright combat situations and all her friends volunteered to come with her on her revenge mission? And she's seeking revenge on the person that slowly and brutally murdered her father figure in front of her? I'm not seeing really any terribleness from Ellie here.

even if ellie isn't terrible, that's the message the devs hamfistedly try to jam into your brain

see, because revenge is bad, for any reason, and if you try to get revenge then you'll lose some of your fingers and you won't be able to play the guitar anymore and can't even cherish the memory of the person you were fighting for and what he taught you, because revenge is bad

Being fair, she also lost her romantic partner and their adoptive son.

The weakness of the narrative is that you agreeing that revenge was not worthy if you actually liked Abby and/or thought Joel was an asshole himself.

Revenge being bad is generally agreed that is bad and is different of seeking Justice or retribution. So dunno if you can mock the message itself since the whole point of those games is a bleak exploration of humankind. You can blame it for being obvious and that the whole journey felt like a waste of time for everyone involved (including the player) if you didn’t particularly like Abby.

[Boredfrom]

are there multiple fictional or real detectives who are drunk and have custody issues?

Yes? That is a whole archetype for the noir detective. Hell, that was the twist of the main character of Bioshock Infinite.

Hell, Sherlock Holmes was a drug addict.

[Snoopycat_]

 I thought the game was alright except it went on forever, and it had those stupid zombies in it. I was hoping ND would realize the zombie shit was totally unnecessary and remove them. As for all the controversy. I thought killing off Joel was a pretty good idea. It shook things up. Mostly I just enjoyed watching all the cunt hawks frothing about Abby's muscles being unrealistic. Obviously none of them have ever seen the likes of Amanda Nunes in action.

[Uncle]

are there multiple fictional or real detectives who are drunk and have custody issues?

Yes? That is a whole archetype for the noir detective. Hell, that was the twist of the main character of Bioshock Infinite.

Hell, Sherlock Holmes was a drug addict.

women I mean, like she says

like in a different era I'd expect her to be making a reference to murder she wrote, who is she referencing right now?

[Uncle]

Mostly I just enjoyed watching all the cunt hawks frothing about Abby's muscles being unrealistic. Obviously none of them have ever seen the likes of Amanda Nunes in action.

does nunes live in a desperate post apocalypse where every calorie is important and it would take 5 of everyone else's helpings to maintain that much mass

[Potato]

It's time for the monthly TLOU 2 thread where ree pretends to be some naive innocent who doesn't understand why some people didn't like it, but somehow knows all those critics are chuds -

I know chuds are going to be chuds, but what in the flying fuck is the controversy here? A minor character is trans? Joel dies? They humanize a group of people who seem like monsters at the start of the game. They turn the mirror on Ellie and show that she's actually pretty terrible herself?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lttp-the-last-of-us-part-2-this-was-controversial-spoilers.673777/

I played it when it came out so it's been a minute. But isn't everyone Ellie killed done so in self-defense in outright combat situations and all her friends volunteered to come with her on her revenge mission? And she's seeking revenge on the person that slowly and brutally murdered her father figure in front of her? I'm not seeing really any terribleness from Ellie here.

even if ellie isn't terrible, that's the message the devs hamfistedly try to jam into your brain

see, because revenge is bad, for any reason, and if you try to get revenge then you'll lose some of your fingers and you won't be able to play the guitar anymore and can't even cherish the memory of the person you were fighting for and what he taught you, because revenge is bad

Fucking hell, people think this is good writing?

Gamers™ really are the worst and Sony Ponies the worst of them all.

[Boredfrom]

but she says "like every other woman solving murders these days" so it's talking about the detectives, not the authors or audience.

are there multiple fictional or real detectives who are drunk and have custody issues?

Yes? That is a whole archetype for the noir detective. Hell, that was the twist of the main character of Bioshock Infinite.

Hell, Sherlock Holmes was a drug addict.

women I mean, like she says

like in a different era I'd expect her to be making a reference to murder she wrote, who is she referencing right now?

My impression is that she talking about amateur detectives (that is the whole shtick of  Mystery Inc, teenagers resolving mysteries with a talking dog). The ones publishing True Crime books or posting in forums and Reddit looking for clues for an old killing or disappearance.

Have you seen Zodiac? Something like the main character that was a cartoonist rather than a detective or full journo.

[Boredfrom]

It's time for the monthly TLOU 2 thread where ree pretends to be some naive innocent who doesn't understand why some people didn't like it, but somehow knows all those critics are chuds -

I know chuds are going to be chuds, but what in the flying fuck is the controversy here? A minor character is trans? Joel dies? They humanize a group of people who seem like monsters at the start of the game. They turn the mirror on Ellie and show that she's actually pretty terrible herself?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lttp-the-last-of-us-part-2-this-was-controversial-spoilers.673777/

I played it when it came out so it's been a minute. But isn't everyone Ellie killed done so in self-defense in outright combat situations and all her friends volunteered to come with her on her revenge mission? And she's seeking revenge on the person that slowly and brutally murdered her father figure in front of her? I'm not seeing really any terribleness from Ellie here.

even if ellie isn't terrible, that's the message the devs hamfistedly try to jam into your brain

see, because revenge is bad, for any reason, and if you try to get revenge then you'll lose some of your fingers and you won't be able to play the guitar anymore and can't even cherish the memory of the person you were fighting for and what he taught you, because revenge is bad

Fucking hell, people think this is good writing?

Gamers™ really are the worst and Sony Ponies the worst of them all.

Dude..

“Count of Montecristo is about a salty escaped convict that wants revenge, gets a lot of money, kills a child and discover that revenge is bad”.

I don’t even like the Last of Us but minimizing the plot like that? There is a lot of legit criticism beyond making the plot sound stupid because didn’t work for you.

[benjipwns]

The problem is, while users are not being actively malicious, they are clearly, inarguably being indifferent to the issues. People here clearly don't WANT to know or discuss the issues with the franchise. That is and has remained the problem. ERA was created specifically as an escape for marginalized and overlooked people to find a refuge from other places on the internet. We've already have several posters in here and in the other threads speak at length about how the constant cheerleading and stanning for this franchise and its creator makes them feel horrible and not feel like welcome here.

Let ask you, in all earnestness: Do you think that ResetERA is living up to its goal of being a safe, inclusive place when we have several posters here are ignoring and downplaying the concerns and voices of a marginalized group? Are we doing any better than the other places in the internet that we all bemoan and rightfully scorn as cesspools of racism and intolerance?

The heckler's veto always being right and mandatory is no way to run a community.

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and in this alternate timeline, the underprivileged voices go and make practically an identical movie...

It's not surprisingly considering she said that just changing someone's skin color makes something automatically interesting but I note she'll go and see this film without knowing anything about it just because who made it. Which leads me to ask is she currently seeking these films out to make sure she's sending money to them?

Because actions and inaction speak louder than words. People can say all they want that they do care and aren't indifferent. That's easy as hell to do. The hard thing, and the only thing I'd actually respect, is for people to back those words up and engage with people bringing this issues up, no matter how "toxic you believe it to be.

And just so you know, people have ALREADY done that. Yesterday, at least 3 or 4 people that regularly posted here came in the other thread, apologized for being dismissive of the issues surrounding this franchise and Cameron, and promised to do better and interact more.

I'm just chiming in to say that the relentless positivity surrounding this film on this site--and the countless threads about it--are by no means harmless. They do, actually, hurt--as reluctant as I am to admit that.

I just want to say thank you for posting and I'm sorry for any pain that reading through these threads have caused you.

This is just struggle sessions and self-criticism for anyone who crosses The Party.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Leave Nep alone y’all.

I am so fucking tired.

 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/company-plans-to-build-largest-lithium-mine-in-the-us-on-the-sacred-site-of-native-american-massacres.674515/#post-99549919

Nep stated she doesn't care if you're PoC if you ain't black you can fuck off and ban ya

[clothedmacuser]

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Thank you for being tired on my behalf the same people who are always tired for our people.  I grant you the ability to take a nap my cloying brothers.  You surely believe you've earned it.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/avatar-the-way-of-water-will-gross-2-5-billion-update-faithless-seen-protesting-outside-beijing-film-bureaus-offices.662731/post-99527254

You're weaponizing friends and community leaders to dismiss actual Indigenous members' concerns here though.

Are you an indigenous native american?  I fucking hate the idea of her speaking up for us.

Her and Excel.  They go so far out of the way to make native americans every part of their arguments.  I wish I could Will Smith them and say, "keep our names out of your mouth, you liberal ass Karen who thinks you speak for me."


I'm not sure about Bombastico.  If he's actually native american I can't use that line on him.

I just want to know why it was cool calling Cameron a rapist in that thread. People have been prem'd for less on this site.

Literally no one reported it, and it was self-edited by the member in question before it was brought to our attention here. We say this all the time: if you feel someone is way out of pocket, report it so it can be brought to staff's attention in a timely manner.

Ah yes, nobody "Submitted a Ticket" for it.  And it was later edited.  Because once you edit a post you can't be banned for what you said. 

Hahah, and timely manner.  Jackass, you just had a therad where you banned people for things they said over three months ago. 

Era "Tickets,"

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Nepenthe is always to first to tell others to firebomb the parking dept. for facist behavior and then turn around and say order, justice, and proper paperwork must prevail.

I think El Bombastico stated to be black.  NepNep gets very angry if you speak up for black people yet here she is with native Americans

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gwen-stefani-claims-im-japanese-in-response-to-cultural-appropriation-accusations.674551/
 

[Snoopycat_]

does nunes live in a desperate post apocalypse where every calorie is important and it would take 5 of everyone else's helpings to maintain that much mass

I can't reveal her nationality because Nep Nep would culturally appropriate her

[benjipwns]

One thing I'll say positively about B-Dubs is that he's finally realized that the ideology he coddles and encourages is one that's fundamentally only about tearing down. Notice nobody has created threads about good indigenous films or works of any kind so that people can experience them, instead all the "activists" are just warring against Avatar threads and only posters who are not devoting themselves to the cause. Similarly, the freedom fighters against Joanne only want to block anything that reminds them of her, someone at least proposed making a "top five trans games" thread but only in reaction to The Protocols of Elders of Joanne releasing to "distract" from the OT. They didn't actually go and make this thread now when it might get attention. How many threads are there when they say "no Black/trans/female/Asian/etc. person worked on this" and then we find out that they did and we just move on instead of pointing out that the "activists" literally erased the existence of people just because they didn't like their work output? How often do Neoxon and Nepenthe actually spotlight "Black Excellence"? Can you ever recall a thread about a trans person achieving something other than being the "first" trans person to do some irrelevant thing? Even the absurd cult like praise for Black Panther and The Matrix Regurgitated is framed in how they imagine the chuds are reacting to it and how much they wish to deny it to others. And I obviously have to mention how even when Cyberpunk 2077 and Hogwart's Legacy have defied the chuds, by placing LGBTQ stuff at the forefront, their fear is that this will allow people to "excuse" the "crimes" lurking within.

If only anyone had ever mentioned these things in places that weren't hate sites before the social media algorithms spread them all over the ResetERA.com community.

[Potato]

It's time for the monthly TLOU 2 thread where ree pretends to be some naive innocent who doesn't understand why some people didn't like it, but somehow knows all those critics are chuds -

I know chuds are going to be chuds, but what in the flying fuck is the controversy here? A minor character is trans? Joel dies? They humanize a group of people who seem like monsters at the start of the game. They turn the mirror on Ellie and show that she's actually pretty terrible herself?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/lttp-the-last-of-us-part-2-this-was-controversial-spoilers.673777/

I played it when it came out so it's been a minute. But isn't everyone Ellie killed done so in self-defense in outright combat situations and all her friends volunteered to come with her on her revenge mission? And she's seeking revenge on the person that slowly and brutally murdered her father figure in front of her? I'm not seeing really any terribleness from Ellie here.

even if ellie isn't terrible, that's the message the devs hamfistedly try to jam into your brain

see, because revenge is bad, for any reason, and if you try to get revenge then you'll lose some of your fingers and you won't be able to play the guitar anymore and can't even cherish the memory of the person you were fighting for and what he taught you, because revenge is bad

Fucking hell, people think this is good writing?

Gamers™ really are the worst and Sony Ponies the worst of them all.

Dude..

“Count of Montecristo is about a salty escaped convict that wants revenge, gets a lot of money, kills a child and discover that revenge is bad”.

I don’t even like the Last of Us but minimizing the plot like that? There is a lot of legit criticism beyond making the plot sound stupid because didn’t work for you.

Haven't played it (Part 1 was boring as fuck) so I'm really just laughing in the shitbin thread on this one...BUUUUUT, the futility of revenge is an age-old storytelling device that goes back to ancient Egyptian times and probably earlier.

However, if using the loss of fingers and the subsequent loss of the ability to play guitar to remember that person by is the narrative hook they've gone with, especially after using the guitar thing in so much of the pre-release media, then I guess my dismissiveness of the quality of the writing is not misplaced.

[HaughtyFrank]

https://twitter.com/DelusionPosting/status/1613317492864348160

This game is the hate crime of the century

Edit: omg

https://twitter.com/EsemicolonR/status/1613355554377695232

[clothedmacuser]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gwen-stefani-claims-im-japanese-in-response-to-cultural-appropriation-accusations.674551/
 

Quick!  All non Japanese people to the Righteous Bus.  We have a pointless gesture to make to show we care about . . . Gwen Stefani?  Yeah!  Let's roll!