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[Daffy Duck]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-most-heartwarming-video-you-will-see-today-f-murray-abraham-realizing-the-crowd-is-cheering-for-him.675562/#post-99680755

Thread already derailed by cool game dev and voice actor Feep

It’s just…

And for fuck’s sake people.

There’s enough negativity in the world.

There’s e-fuckin-nough.

Without us having to go around digging for it, or implying it with absolutely nothing to show.

So goddamn tired of the internet some days.

Does ANYBODY need help being miserable?

LMAO

[PogiJones]

Absurdity of the ban aside, when did this become a thing?

women members

Is he so terrified of saying female? Imagine saying "men members"

But wait, why would women in particular object to it? What if OP is gay? Or what if OP identifies as a woman or nonbinary? Then there's no male gaze. But wait, what makes the mods think the pictures posted are of women? Did they research the characters' pronouns? What if it's men being supposedly sexualized in those pics? Then it should be the men members that are offended, not the women members.

[TacoWallace]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-most-heartwarming-video-you-will-see-today-f-murray-abraham-realizing-the-crowd-is-cheering-for-him.675562/#post-99680755

Thread already derailed by cool game dev and voice actor Feep

Two people have already claimed to have read about it in a thread there before. First one mixed him up with Frank Langella, second edited and said "never mind but don't blame me, here's a link to a thread with zero answers"

They're turning into a full blown fake news website.

[Uncle]

lool

[PogiJones]

They're turning into a full blown fake news website.

 

[Uncle]

(stress sigh) y'know people (takes a deep breath and rubs temples) I suppose this one's not worth it (quiet chuckle)

mea culpa (spreads hands and sighs again)

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/post-99656008

Even if you buy a used copy of the game, you are saying you don't care about media that promotes anti-Semitic stereotypes and you really want to play the oppressor of fantasy-Jews. Not a good look even if you think you are magically rules lawyering your way around the the support of transphobia.

I love that this is now just a fact.

What are you talking about? Whenever anyone describes someone as ugly, creepy and liking money you know they mean JEWS. It's just like when someone talks about tribal, wild and musical people they mean BLACKS or when they describe someone tall, blue and half-naked they mean INDIGENOUS.

[PogiJones]

lool

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A warning is essentially a Protected Member certificate.

[benjipwns]

Not to mention when someone has emotions, rejects alpha male toxic masculinity for mean girls tropes and lacks physical strength it means WOMAN.

[Boredfrom]

Is this the next step in the culture war? I wonder how RE will take it

https://twitter.com/MrYGuy2/status/1614001663785816079

Finn was way better than Rey. 

They just decided to do nothing with him in favor of Luke with Boobs. 

[Uncle]

Is this the next step in the culture war? I wonder how RE will take it

Finn was way better than Rey. 

They just decided to do nothing with him in favor of Luke with Boobs. 

 

[joeboy101]

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(stress sigh) y'know people (takes a deep breath and rubs temples) I suppose this one's not worth it (quiet chuckle)

mea culpa (spreads hands and sighs again)

you want people to take the word of strangers on the internet with not only no proof but no...anything? And just trust it is true because "trust me bro"?

But... that's entirely what that site ever does?

Tweeted accusation? Must be true.
Targeted Youtube Screed? Fuck that guy!
Heard something from someone who heard something? Definitely need to lead a mob against them!

wheredoyouthinkweare.gif

It’s just…

And for fuck’s sake people.

There’s enough negativity in the world.

There’s e-fuckin-nough.

Without us having to go around digging for it, or implying it with absolutely nothing to show.

So goddamn tired of the internet some days.

Does ANYBODY need help being miserable?

Oh he can FUCK right off with that sanctimony. He's on the leading edge of this kind of bullshit, now its beyond the pale?

[joeboy101]

Is this the next step in the culture war? I wonder how RE will take it

Finn was way better than Rey. 

They just decided to do nothing with him in favor of Luke with Boobs. 

(Image removed from quote.)

 

Still looks like a guy.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Verrrry fuckable, but still a guy.

[close]

[Joe Molotov]

(Image removed from quote.)

(stress sigh) y'know people (takes a deep breath and rubs temples) I suppose this one's not worth it (quiet chuckle)

mea culpa (spreads hands and sighs again)

So he has SECRET information on F Murray Abraham's creeperhood but refuses to share it, leaving Abraham uncancelled and free to creep again? Oof, not a good look.

[Uncle]

he leads with "I don't tell most people what the F stands for" 

[BIONIC]

Thread locked with zero explanation

https://www.resetera.com/threads/these-fighting-game-characters-are-all-the-same-person-lots-of-images.675154/page-3

While the basic idea behind the thread is not objectionable, the idea that the characters have similarities is valid, we have determined that the OP intentionally chose blatantly sexualized images to make their point. This makes the thread look like nothing more than an excuse for the OP to post sexualized images of these characters. It also doesn't help they have a history of trolling and other similar behavior.

So as not to make women members feel unwelcome we're locking the thread and banning the OP given their history.

That BAC from forum post tech really evolved.

Absurdity of the ban aside, when did this become a thing?

women members

Is he so terrified of saying female? Imagine saying "men members"

Men “members” 

there's no reason to distinguish men members from women members you transphobes 

Any “members”

[joeboy101]

That thread now becoming a who's who of prominent posters banging pots with spoons on any transgression they imagine on the internet, catching the vapors and demanding faint couches from a baseless accusation.

Honestly at some point that became a pet peeve for me

I'll never mind being informed that someone actually sucks, but so many times you'll see someone do it in a lazy way where others have to do the legwork of finding out why someone sucks because they wanted to be vague. Or posts where they accuse someone of having done something, but they phrase it in the form of a question (Didn't that person do X?) It's like, damn, if you're gonna derail the thread, at least confirm what you're about to say so everyone's on the same page lol

That one is fun as it gets judgmental about warning potential victims down the road.

Wow, uh, maybe we should close this thread and try again?

FFS, people...

I heard Abraham paid to see Avatar?

This is such an Era-ass thread.

By all means, I'm not going to be surprised if an 80-year-old actor has said or done some problematic things, but I'm not going to sleuth for it either.

And thanks to Googling, it also turns out his wife of 60 years died last November... so maybe the guy had something else going on?

Real 'don't ask, don't tell' vibes there.

[benjipwns]

I don't know why Feep just can't say "I heard he was tying women up and cutting open their stomachs to play around in their organs" or whatever it is that would "potentially get others in trouble" yet him spending multiple posts saying "I know this dude is a creep but I can't say why" doesn't do that.

[benjipwns]

I don't know why Feep just can't say "I heard he was tying women up and cutting open their stomachs to play around in their organs" or whatever it is that would "potentially get others in trouble" yet him spending multiple posts saying "I know this dude is a creep but I can't say why" doesn't do that.

It's not his job to educate you. I'm so tired ya'll.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-most-heartwarming-video-you-will-see-today-f-murray-abraham-realizing-the-crowd-is-cheering-for-him.675562/#post-99680755

Thread already derailed by cool game dev and voice actor Feep

It’s just…

And for fuck’s sake people.

There’s enough negativity in the world.

There’s e-fuckin-nough.

Without us having to go around digging for it, or implying it with absolutely nothing to show.

So goddamn tired of the internet some days.

Does ANYBODY need help being miserable?

LMAO

Sounds like Royalan’s daily hood burger was unwashed today. Poor guy.

[joeboy101]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/james-cameron-may-be-directing-his-adaptation-of-the-last-train-from-hiroshima-before-tackling-avatar-4-5.675280/

This thread can only end well. Honestly Sculli is going to get banned if he keeps posting Cameron stuff unless its critical of him.

Surprised it took 14 posts.

How will he make a white guy the protagonist?

[joeboy101]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ethics-of-suicide.675538/

Daily suicide thread

Too rich, they went with the title change...

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ethics-of-ending-ones-life.675538/

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ethics-of-suicide.675538/

Daily suicide thread

Too rich, they went with the title change...

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ethics-of-ending-ones-life.675538/

Ethics of unliving yourself

[Uncle]

I don't know why Feep just can't say "I heard he was tying women up and cutting open their stomachs to play around in their organs" or whatever it is that would "potentially get others in trouble" yet him spending multiple posts saying "I know this dude is a creep but I can't say why" doesn't do that.

why would F Murray be canceled for providing gender-affirming care 

[clothedmacuser]

It’s just…

And for fuck’s sake people.

There’s enough negativity in the world.

There’s e-fuckin-nough.

Without us having to go around digging for it, or implying it with absolutely nothing to show.

So goddamn tired of the internet some days.

Does ANYBODY need help being miserable?

Oh he can FUCK right off with that sanctimony. He's on the leading edge of this kind of bullshit, now its beyond the pale?

First *Droopy* of the year

[benjipwns]

I don't know why Feep just can't say "I heard he was tying women up and cutting open their stomachs to play around in their organs" or whatever it is that would "potentially get others in trouble" yet him spending multiple posts saying "I know this dude is a creep but I can't say why" doesn't do that.

why would F Murray be canceled for providing gender-affirming care 

Not funny, Joanne's game isn't even out yet leaving a wake of genocide all over the globe and you're already cracking jokes.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gwen-stefani-claims-im-japanese-in-response-to-cultural-appropriation-accusations.674551/page-3#post-99562093

User Banned (2 Weeks): Dismissing Concerns of Minorities

Whilst this is some dumbass stuff. I can easily imagine an American progressive telling a child of an immigrant to a country like Japan that grew up there and have citizenship that they will never be Japanese and that they're culturally appropriating.




Is it offensive to wear yukata / kimono? Kinda sounds like they were having a fun day out and you got offended.

Yeah, this. I’m not the kind of person to go out in public with a yukata or kimono on, but I’d just like to add that the culture of wearing more traditional Japanese attire is dying, and when Japan locked down for 2 years a lot of businesses that do kimono rentals in Kyoto went under.
I think most Japanese people would be honored that foreigners are interested in more traditional aspects of their culture as a way to keep those old traditions alive.

Honestly, what Gwen Stefani said was dumb, but why is it always white people that are the most outraged at other white people on the behalf of minorities? I just find it kind of ironic is all.

 https://www.resetera.com/threads/gwen-stefani-claims-im-japanese-in-response-to-cultural-appropriation-accusations.674551/page-5#post-99578893

User Banned (1 Month): Dismissing Concerns of Cultural Appropriation over a Series of Posts

Good for Gwen Stefani. As a frequently "culturally appropriated" minority, I find her 90s/early 2000s-style attitude endearing, positive for ethnic relations, and far superior to the mild cultural segregation pushed for in recent years.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/gwen-stefani-claims-im-japanese-in-response-to-cultural-appropriation-accusations.674551/page-3#post-99562093

User Banned (2 Weeks): Dismissing Concerns of Minorities

Whilst this is some dumbass stuff. I can easily imagine an American progressive telling a child of an immigrant to a country like Japan that grew up there and have citizenship that they will never be Japanese and that they're culturally appropriating.

Is it offensive to wear yukata / kimono? Kinda sounds like they were having a fun day out and you got offended.

Yeah, this. I’m not the kind of person to go out in public with a yukata or kimono on, but I’d just like to add that the culture of wearing more traditional Japanese attire is dying, and when Japan locked down for 2 years a lot of businesses that do kimono rentals in Kyoto went under.
I think most Japanese people would be honored that foreigners are interested in more traditional aspects of their culture as a way to keep those old traditions alive.

Honestly, what Gwen Stefani said was dumb, but why is it always white people that are the most outraged at other white people on the behalf of minorities? I just find it kind of ironic is all.

First, the staff established that Japanese is a race. Now we're learning that the Japanese are apparently minorities in Japan.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2023-ot-1-kevins-no-good-very-bad-day.672442/page-15#post-99561205

User Banned (2 Weeks): Dismissing Concerns of Transphobic Policy Implications

This is not true - that's my whole point! It is worse! Good lord, y'all.

Yes, if you assume every single anti-trans bill will pass, and treat, say, a federal pro-trans EO by the sitting President as basically nothing, then yes, I can how you can come to that conclusion. I disagree. Just being part of a minority group doesn't mean your own personal beliefs get to overrule the facts on the ground.

As everybody has said in this thread, it's terrible for trans people in certain red states with activist legislatures and red-meat Governors. That doesn't mean things are worse overall than when Donald Trump still ran the federal government.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2023-ot-1-kevins-no-good-very-bad-day.672442/page-15#post-99561205

User Banned (2 Weeks): Dismissing Concerns of Transphobic Policy Implications

This is not true - that's my whole point! It is worse! Good lord, y'all.

Yes, if you assume every single anti-trans bill will pass, and treat, say, a federal pro-trans EO by the sitting President as basically nothing, then yes, I can how you can come to that conclusion. I disagree. Just being part of a minority group doesn't mean your own personal beliefs get to overrule the facts on the ground.

As everybody has said in this thread, it's terrible for trans people in certain red states with activist legislatures and red-meat Governors. That doesn't mean things are worse overall than when Donald Trump still ran the federal government.

i don't know how many times i need to repeat this but this is literally my job and i'm telling you're wrong. i literally write the yearly reports about state lgbtq legislation.

btw, these are not my "personal beliefs." yes, i'm trans! but i'm also an expert in trans policy! there are maybe a dozen other people in the country as thoroughly mired in 50-state queer lege as i am during session (this is more pathetic than impressive but it's still true).

...

the first thing i do every workday during lege session is comb through the hundreds of freshly filed bills that collect in my six nets overnight (there were ~300 this morning! beginning of session sucks! there were like a dozen in mo alone!) to identify what's relevant, figure out what they do, sort them into categories for tracking, and share them out to the appropriate state and local organizations for triage. then i work with those people to stop the big bad ones, and on rare good days i get to work with those people to push the small good ones. the first time i ever got upgraded to first class was on a flight out of Anchorage the day after we beat prop 1!

it wasn't like this when i got into it. back then it was mostly cookie cutter rfras, fadas, ppas, and marriage prohibitions. we started seeing bathroom bans in the mid-late 2010s. then we started seeing athlete bans towards the end of the decade. in ~2019 the healthcare bans started as a trickle. a couple years ago they started mixing in school stuff attached to crt bans. now specifically anti-trans lege is the majority of queerphobic lege and the overall numbers are way up while the scope and reach of the language have exploded. they are learning how to peel away dems (this is why athlete bans don't specify that they require genital inspections much anymore) and concocting new hate policy faster than we can generate new talking points, let alone thoroughly message test them, and this is the first year in my career it's been this way.

i'm not being hysterical here. in 2023 of all years trans people shouldn't have to sit and listen to cis people telling us everything is fine, actually, better than ever even, don't you know biden did a pro-trans thing?! i know basically nothing about absolutely anything else, but i know my shit on this, and i know the country's shit on this. the country's shit is fucked up.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/reviews-for-hbo-maxs-mindy-kalings-velma-have-dropped-premieres-jan-12th-up-first-2-eps-dropped.674137/page-8#post-99685924

this is my first time hearing about it

She liked a relatively vague Rowling tweet once.

                     Dismissing Concerns of Transphobia
 

[HaughtyFrank]

User Banned (1 Month): Dismissing Concerns of Cultural Appropriation over a Series of Posts

Good for Gwen Stefani. As a frequently "culturally appropriated" minority, I find her 90s/early 2000s-style attitude endearing, positive for ethnic relations, and far superior to the mild cultural segregation pushed for in recent years.

Cool, now they're banning asian people who think cultural appropriation isn't as big of a deal

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/reviews-for-hbo-maxs-mindy-kalings-velma-have-dropped-premieres-jan-12th-up-first-2-eps-dropped.674137/page-8#post-99685924

this is my first time hearing about it

She liked a relatively vague Rowling tweet once.

                     Dismissing Concerns of Transphobia
 

I heard F Murray Abraham liked a SPECIFIC one

[benjipwns]

Cool, now they're banning asian people who think cultural appropriation isn't as big of a deal

"I don't give a shit about Peru."
"Anyone not LBGTQ Latinx should shut up."
"Only Asians who agree this is cultural appropriation and cultural appropriation is a sin should be allowed to speak."
"Europeans have no culture."
"Since its founding in late 2017, ResetEra has been an inviting bonfire at the crossroads of the gaming industry. ... It is also an inclusive space that proudly welcomes members of every gender, ethnicity, and sexual orientation. Respect and decency towards each other, regardless of background, is nonnegotiable."

[Tasty]

 Feels like a generational thing.

90s: "Wow, <music band> is incorporating sound from <culture>. I didn't know much about <culture> except they have banging music, I should check them out." "This is a net benefit for the awareness of <culture>." [band passes The Progressivism Purity Test]

<30 years later>

"Wow, <music band in the 90s> was culturally appropriating! How can this be?! EXCISE THEM FROM THE PUBLIC SPHERE" [band retroactively fails The Progressivism Purity Test]
- 17-year old Zoomer on Twitter who obviously has no context for the 90s or what the general media sphere was like back then


Same songs, different generation.

[Boredfrom]

Can somebody tell DragonSJG that no everything needs a thread?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-are-your-thoughts-on-batman-wanting-to-torture-the-joker.675610/

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-20#post-99674056

User Banned (1 Month)/Permanent Threadban: Dismissing concerns of transphobia

Disclaimer: woops this went on for a bit!

I completely understand the contradictions many face, and the feelings of trans people in both the camp who previously enjoyed HP content and those who now have the struggle of removing said content from their lives. For many even hearing about HP can be disheartening and painful because it's a reminder of just how cruel this world is to anyone who wants to actually live a life of their own.

I'm cis white but I've dabbled in bisexuality within my now 31 years of life, and I've grown up with the core belief that if you do right by others through compassion and love, then you do right by yourself. Living in a (very) small rural town in Australia I've seen what shaped views and mindsets look like, especially going from city living where socialism views are far more common. However, what I'm most surprised and happy about is just how bloody welcoming everyone is in accepting people.

I have a close trans male friend and he moved out here with his partner to remove the busy city life, and was worried about going to such a small town. He's been here nearly two years and doesn't want to leave. People defend his choices here, and he is so loved it is beyond amazing. So when it came to HP and JKR, it was incredibly painful because like myself and really many children of the 90's, that's our fantasy life under threat. That's an attack on being a child, of being denied escape from a shitty place or feeling because the creator is a cunt of a bigot who truly hates anyone that isn't her subset of rules.

So when it came to Hogwarts Legacy, I actually sat down with my friend and had a deep conversation on the pros, cons, flaws and values of just what a piece of content like this means. It's something incredibly hard to really give one answer to, or even determine how exactly to handle it when it is both intrinsically intertwined into the HP world of JKR AND also part of a seperate team of developers creation. Like someone else said, seperating art from creator is incredibly hard in this instance because art wouldn't have been there had it not been for creator.

Truly, it is something I can genuinely see as being difficult to easily breakdown as a yes or no. That is incredibly opposing to the fact that JKR herself can so easily breakdown trans rights without any difficulty and even revels in that power to do so. As much as some will see this as a far simpler "you either do or you don't" decision, for others it will be a genuine struggle.

My views are pretty simplistic in the grand scheme of things, I prefer to act logically but with care to those struggling and in need. Talking to my trans friend, we decided that in order for me to both appreciate the artist (in this case the developers) and the content that has quite literally shaped my early teenage life, that it must be balanced. So I'm going to be donating double the cost of the game to an organisation in Brisbane, Australia that was picked by my friend as it was the place he gained the most support during his transition and quite literally saved his life.

I know this whole post is a justification for a purchase of something that plenty of people will rightfully decline and wonder why I can't do the same. As I said, everyone is going to be unique in these situations but I wanted to shed some light on my point of view. A balance for me only comes by balancing out the hate and anger that one woman has created by doubling the efforts to making the world better for those who deserve to be in this world because they want to live as themselves.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-21#post-99685999

Apologies for not getting a reply sooner, I'm travelling back home and it's a solid 8 hour trip so get spurts of time to write.

I 100% agree with both your responses, and I completely understand my own personal experiences are no where near what occurs on a daily basis for anyone trans or LGBTQ. I am fully aware that my addition to this thread is in essence a note of "please see I'm justifying my actions by doing thoughtful things" and will own that on my conscience. It is why I brought it up in the first place despite initially not knowing if I should, and why I work closely with my trans friend to better understand the world they and others share so that I can do better.

We have to do better, and for me I believe giving to an organisation that personally helped a good friend actually be here today is a balancing act of kindness and awareness. I know others will not see that, and I don't judge those responses at all nor the ones I receive for mine. I hope that one day this world can actually be a place of care and kindness for anyone, no matter their choices of personal living that don't affect anyone.

I truly hope anyone in this thread or those reading who are affected can be loved and cared for. This world needs more of that, and I wholeheartedly agree that less weight be given to a game and more to the actual human beings living the nightmares. The nightmares that vile pieces of shit put on others because they themselves are insecure and unable to comprehend care for anyone.

[Uncle]

Feels like a generational thing.

90s: "Wow, <music band> is incorporating sound from <culture>. I didn't know much about <culture> except they have banging music, I should check them out." "This is a net benefit for the awareness of <culture>." [band passes The Progressivism Purity Test]

<30 years later>

"Wow, <music band in the 90s> was culturally appropriating! How can this be?! EXCISE THEM FROM THE PUBLIC SPHERE" [band retroactively fails The Progressivism Purity Test]
- 17-year old Zoomer on Twitter who obviously has no context for the 90s or what the general media sphere was like back then


Same songs, different generation.

shouldn't even have to do with "back then," it still applies

if you don't know a lot about a certain culture and you hear music from a band that pays tribute to that culture, it can still be a gateway to learning more about them

[benjipwns]

Can somebody tell DragonSJG that no everything needs a thread?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/what-are-your-thoughts-on-batman-wanting-to-torture-the-joker.675610/

To me pages like the one posted are the unfortunate result of two character that are, by corporate proxy unable to ultimately change or grow and are left to the mercies of writers who are given the unenviable task of continually having to up the dramatic and emotional stakes of legacy characters.

Awful take on Batman.

How dare Batman acknowledge his humanity and actively enforce his moral code upon himself and his doubts to emphasize with Jason Todd.

[benjipwns]

Feels like a generational thing.

90s: "Wow, <music band> is incorporating sound from <culture>. I didn't know much about <culture> except they have banging music, I should check them out." "This is a net benefit for the awareness of <culture>." [band passes The Progressivism Purity Test]

<30 years later>

"Wow, <music band in the 90s> was culturally appropriating! How can this be?! EXCISE THEM FROM THE PUBLIC SPHERE" [band retroactively fails The Progressivism Purity Test]
- 17-year old Zoomer on Twitter who obviously has no context for the 90s or what the general media sphere was like back then


Same songs, different generation.

shouldn't even have to do with "back then," it still applies

if you don't know a lot about a certain culture and you hear music from a band that pays tribute to that culture, it can still be a gateway to learning more about them

What part of it wasn't made for you are you not understanding? Stop being such narcissist sociopaths and thinking you have the right to someone else's creation. This is the problem with capitalism, colonialism and white supremacy, the obsessive entitlement to think you can just take other people's stuff without their permission to use however you want without even planting any carrots in the community garden.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/just-found-out-ben-stein-is-maga.675583/#post-99682720

As someone who has met Ben Stein personally and even played minigolf with him, yes. This is not surprising.

Dude was a Republican speechwriter before he got into comedy, and has never been anywhere remotely close to liberal or progressive.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/just-found-out-ben-stein-is-maga.675583/#post-99682876

You played mini golf with him?

Yes, I met him when he came to speak at my college and some of my friends convinced him to hang out after his speech. It was a whole thing.

He made fun of me and my dad for being Democrats.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/just-found-out-ben-stein-is-maga.675583/#post-99682996

Geez…

Like he wasn't a gigantic asshole about it, I'm sure he expected me to roll my eyes. I met a bunch of celebrities when I was in college and he was, despite that, not the worst celeb experience I had on campus.

the lead singer of the Ataris punched me in the stomach at a party

 

[Uncle]

 

[benjipwns]

Harry Potter was a world I could lose myself in at a time when the real world was filled with daily physical and emotional abuse. I was there at the release of every new book. My girlfriend at the time knitted me a Gryffindor scarf for my birthday as she knew how obsessed I was with the world. I was as large a fan as anyone at the time. So whatever difficulty cis people attest to have in wrestling with their love for the franchise I kind of lose all care over, because you have no idea what it feels like to see its creator propel your identity into the headlines and have it maligned and debated day in and day out. You can't understand the frustration of having people give Rowling an immediate and intrinsic shield to anything negative cast at her simply because of Harry Potter. That the franchise is the only reason she is given a completely unassailable level of benefit of the doubt by people at the same time she hugs people calling for our genocide and lends her weight to people looking to strip us of our ability to live safely and openly in the world.

The fact is I don't need to understand the perspective of people who say they support trans people while continuing to purchase products from the person spearheading a campaign against our rights, because I am already bombarded by it. I cannot escape it. I simply do not care to hear any more about the developers and appreciating artists. I do not care to have people's trans friends offered up with reasons for why you're engaging with things.

This is a woman rubbing shoulders with Nazis, white supremacists and the far right in order to do what she can to push for a United Kingdom with as few openly trans people in it as possible. With as few resources as possible to aid trans people in distress. Someone content with pushing harder in a direction she knows causes children to commit suicide, who works to further endanger people's access to support services when they have been driven that far.

Whatever reasoning you have for engaging with the IP that affords her the above is between you and your own conscience. I do not need to know or understand it. It isn't unique, it isn't enlightening. It's entirely self-serving.

You know what would be really cool? If cis people would stop trying to absolve their guilt regarding this game.

We get it. Your precious Harry Potter is more important than not supporting the world of an author who hangs out with literal fucking fascists and trans genocide advocates. If you wanna buy the game, buy the game. Don't pretend that your little rituals somehow absolve you of guilt for buying it. Sure, buying it used doesn't give Rowling money directly. Sure, you can donate the cost of the game to a pro-trans organizations. But you're still supporting the world that Rowling has created. You're still supporting the IP that is directly attached to her and helps her continue her bigoted, transphobic campaign. With the way game development works, the developers already got paid anyhow. So it's not like you need to go out of your way to somehow lift them up with extra special support.

Don't pretend that you're somehow smart or clever with these little rituals to absolve your guilt. You're not, and we see right through it. That's why every time some cis person comes in to express why they're buying the game, they suspiciously never return to respond to the people who call them out. Despite the fact that they're clearly still browsing Era and posting elsewhere.

Decide how much you truly value trans rights, then make a decision. Stop looking for trans people to be your seal of approval. You're not the only person who grew up with a love of Harry Potter, but unlike you, we've had to watch the author turn around and directly attack us. We've had to watch the author hang out with people that want to take everything from us. And then they want to line us up for the firing squad and execute us. Your guilt because you read Harry Potter as a teenager and are now conflicted doesn't compare in the slightest.

I still can't comprehend how people can still like that franchise. The Harry Potter books are filled to the brim with Joanne's disgusting views. Antisemitism, transphobia, fat shaming, gender roles... Hell, there is sexism in there, despite being written by a woman. Even something as saying slavery is bad, Joanne couldn't do that. The house elves like being slaves, so Dobby and Hermione are the crazy ones.

And judging what is the game's story about, it will also continue with the antisemitism that Joanne refuses to back down.

The mental gymnastics people do to justify buying that game, even used or pirated, never stops making me feel disgusted.

Y’all have no idea how difficult and painful people like JKR make it for trans people.

The hostility traps some trans people between living inauthenticly and the fear of losing loved ones over being themselves.

Do what you have to do to make it through the day but know that it comes at a cost paid in human misery and sorrow. Maybe just don’t try to justify it to their face because it just emphasizes how many people are indifferent to their pain.

...yeah my last post was too nice.

I'm a transgender woman and I grew up with Harry Potter as the first book series I really enjoyed reading as a child. I read through all the books in grade school, I watched nearly all the movies, I got Harry Potter merch, I even did Harry Potter roleplaying as a child before even knowing what roleplaying was. As an autistic child that was struggling with damn near everything and life itself, it was something for me to latch onto and obsess over, a fictional world to immerse myself into when the world around me felt awful and unforgiving towards me for who I am.

What I'm saying is, it's been an instrumental part of my developmental years, one of the things that I can say lead me towards my love of fictional worlds today, and it feels absolutely AWFUL to see the person who wrote it is now wanting transgender people like me dead. I used her books to escape our world that was unforgiving towards me, now she wants us removed and dead.

It's an extra level of cruel irony that in the midst of her anti-trans crusade, JKR has shown that she sees autistic people as lesser people. That we don't have agency over ourselves and need others to take care of us and make decisions for us, that the studies identifying a link to why so many trans people are autistic, is because we're so easily brainwashed, that we don't know what we're doing to ourselves and are vulnerable to "gender ideology".

When any of you (generic you) come in here to rationalize to us why Harry Potter is too important and fundamental to your life to just give up a game for, just remember that. For some of us, it was once our world too, and now she wants us dead. You're not special.

Oh fuck yeah that's the stuff.

[Boredfrom]

(Image removed from quote.)

 

Genuinely feel bad for her, she was brainwashed HARD when she expressed doubt.

[benjipwns]

Genuinely feel bad for her, she was brainwashed HARD when she expressed doubt.

She was one of the smarter mods, but has gone completely unhinged since stepping down* and apparently marinating in the other cult paranoids.

*Just coincidentally because of the unrelenting ideological demands of the community. Damn social media algorithms.

[benjipwns]

The paranoid spokesman sees the fate of conspiracy in apocalyptic terms—he traffics in the birth and death of whole worlds, whole political orders, whole systems of human values. He is always manning the barricades of civilization. He constantly lives at a turning point. Like religious millennialists he expresses the anxiety of those who are living through the last days and he is sometimes disposed to set a date fort the apocalypse. (“Time is running out,” said Welch in 1951. “Evidence is piling up on many sides and from many sources that October 1952 is the fatal month when Stalin will attack.”)

As a member of the avant-garde who is capable of perceiving the conspiracy before it is fully obvious to an as yet unaroused public, the paranoid is a militant leader. He does not see social conflict as something to be mediated and compromised, in the manner of the working politician. Since what is at stake is always a conflict between absolute good and absolute evil, what is necessary is not compromise but the will to fight things out to a finish. Since the enemy is thought of as being totally evil and totally unappeasable, he must be totally eliminated—if not from the world, at least from the theatre of operations to which the paranoid directs his attention. This demand for total triumph leads to the formulation of hopelessly unrealistic goals, and since these goals are not even remotely attainable, failure constantly heightens the paranoid’s sense of frustration. Even partial success leaves him with the same feeling of powerlessness with which he began, and this in turn only strengthens his awareness of the vast and terrifying quality of the enemy he opposes.

The enemy is clearly delineated: he is a perfect model of malice, a kind of amoral superman—sinister, ubiquitous, powerful, cruel, sensual, luxury-loving. Unlike the rest of us, the enemy is not caught in the toils of the vast mechanism of history, himself a victim of his past, his desires, his limitations. He wills, indeed he manufactures, the mechanism of history, or tries to deflect the normal course of history in an evil way. He makes crises, starts runs on banks, causes depressions, manufactures disasters, and then enjoys and profits from the misery he has produced. The paranoid’s interpretation of history is distinctly personal: decisive events are not taken as part of the stream of history, but as the consequences of someone’s will. Very often the enemy is held to possess some especially effective source of power: he controls the press; he has unlimited funds; he has a new secret for influencing the mind (brainwashing); he has a special technique for seduction (the Catholic confessional).

It is hard to resist the conclusion that this enemy is on many counts the projection of the self; both the ideal and the unacceptable aspects of the self are attributed to him. The enemy may be the cosmopolitan intellectual, but the paranoid will outdo him in the apparatus of scholarship, even of pedantry. Secret organizations set up to combat secret organizations give the same flattery. The Ku Klux Klan imitated Catholicism to the point of donning priestly vestments, developing an elaborate ritual and an equally elaborate hierarchy. The John Birch Society emulates Communist cells and quasi-secret operation through “front” groups, and preaches a ruthless prosecution of the ideological war along lines very similar to those it finds in the Communist enemy. Spokesmen of the various fundamentalist anti-Communist “crusades” openly express their admiration for the dedication and discipline the Communist cause calls forth.

On the other hand, the sexual freedom often attributed to the enemy, his lack of moral inhibition, his possession of especially effective techniques for fulfilling his desires, give exponents of the paranoid style an opportunity to project and express unacknowledgeable aspects of their own psychological concerns. Catholics and Mormons—later, Negroes and Jews—have lent themselves to a preoccupation with illicit sex. Very often the fantasies of true believers reveal strong sadomasochistic outlets, vividly expressed, for example, in the delight of anti-Masons with the cruelty of Masonic punishments.

[Averon]

Being "lined up and shot against the wall" has become the go-to metaphor of the supposed trans genocide taking place.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/just-found-out-ben-stein-is-maga.675583/#post-99682720

As someone who has met Ben Stein personally and even played minigolf with him, yes. This is not surprising.

Dude was a Republican speechwriter before he got into comedy, and has never been anywhere remotely close to liberal or progressive.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/just-found-out-ben-stein-is-maga.675583/#post-99682876

You played mini golf with him?

Yes, I met him when he came to speak at my college and some of my friends convinced him to hang out after his speech. It was a whole thing.

He made fun of me and my dad for being Democrats.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/just-found-out-ben-stein-is-maga.675583/#post-99682996

Geez…

Like he wasn't a gigantic asshole about it, I'm sure he expected me to roll my eyes. I met a bunch of celebrities when I was in college and he was, despite that, not the worst celeb experience I had on campus.

the lead singer of the Ataris punched me in the stomach at a party

 

Imagine getting roasted by Ben Stein

[HardcoreRetro]

Being "lined up and shot against the wall" has become the go-to metaphor of the supposed trans genocide taking place.

The jewish community must feel so loved with that iconography constantly being brought up for something that isn't happening.

[Snoopycat_]

"Don't pretend that you're somehow smart or clever with these little rituals to absolve your guilt. You're not, and we see right through it."

It's strange that Android Sophia and all the rest have never once mentioned Kyuuji buying and getting platinum on Cyberpunk

[Averon]

Hopefully all the mass graves of all the trans people that TERF Bitch Joanne personally killed will be found soon so the trans community can finally find peace. Because that is what Joanne is doing, killing trans people in mass and making mass graves, if you believe the rhetoric online.

[NekoFever]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ethics-of-suicide.675538/

Daily suicide thread

Too rich, they went with the title change...

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ethics-of-ending-ones-life.675538/

Content Warning: The discussion of the ethics of ending ones life contain references to suicide.

Big if true

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/teacher-and-cousin-of-black-lives-matter-founder-%E2%80%98tased-to-death%E2%80%99-by-lapigd.674971/page-4#post-99632290

Joining the cops is pretty much agreeing to legally hunting black people for sport.

Pai Pai Master

Well thats literally what the first police organizations were created for. Nothing changes in America.

[Nintex]

The trans Harry Potter inquisition is the weirdest thing to me.

Back in high school Harry Potter was very popular but it was popular among girls. You would see this in the merchandise too. Pink and glittered Harry Potter lunchboxes, backpacks, diaries, hair brushes etc. .
I never liked Harry Potter myself. I was a fan of LOTR, Dragonball Z, Gundam Wing, GameCube, PC gaming etc. . In fact whenever a boy at school made it known that he was into Harry Potter he would be reminded by bullies that Harry Potter is gay.
Harry Potter was for gays, kids (they didn't know any better) and sisters. It wasn't for guys. This was also made clear by all the art. It wasn't dark and gritty like Hogwarts but looked more cartoonish.

This seems to be the trend among things the trans community targets. They target mostly pop culture and things for women, such as womens sports, Harry Potter, female characters in games and movies.
I've seldom seen the trans community aim at an 'exclusive' mens thing, like feeling left out that the YouTube series about the world wars and ancient Egypt or Fast & Furious movies are mostly made by men for men.
And when you talk about inclusivity, whenever a woman knows her shit in those things that are considered to be for men they will often be welcomed as 'one of the boys' such as female race drivers or historians.

The Harry Potter inquisition looks more and more like an attack on feminism (that J.K. Rowling is an advocate for) by weak former men than anything else and it seems that women have very few means to defend themselves against this.

The feminists once tried to attack the gamers because they thought they were weak compared to other men dominated cultures. But then quickly discovered that targetting a group who are focused exclusively on 'winning' meaningless platform wars is not the smartest thing to do.
Basically turning gaming culture into the dominant pop culture in 2022 with 103 million viewers watching the coronation of the most difficult 'git gud' video game released that year that opens with the line: "You are maidenless" while big hollywood stars served as PR props.

[Pwnz]

The hypersensitivity moderation for any trans issue, even if a red herring, is why most Poliera members left to a discord. I see that it has gotten worse, not surprising. I'm fairly confident half of these people reporting aren't even genuinely concerned for trans rights, so ridiculous. There's like 1000 other issues to be concerned about, the world doesn't revolve around it.

They really think it overrules all other concerns, like the blatant linguistic imperialism, like a leftist version of "this is America, fuck you and speak English". Like no wonder Hispanic Americans are drifting right, they treat them like absolute shit.

I ignored that Harry Potter thread ages ago, still raging on lol

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-20#post-99674056

User Banned (1 Month)/Permanent Threadban: Dismissing concerns of transphobia

Disclaimer: woops this went on for a bit!

I completely understand the contradictions many face, and the feelings of trans people in both the camp who previously enjoyed HP content and those who now have the struggle of removing said content from their lives. For many even hearing about HP can be disheartening and painful because it's a reminder of just how cruel this world is to anyone who wants to actually live a life of their own.

I'm cis white but I've dabbled in bisexuality within my now 31 years of life, and I've grown up with the core belief that if you do right by others through compassion and love, then you do right by yourself. Living in a (very) small rural town in Australia I've seen what shaped views and mindsets look like, especially going from city living where socialism views are far more common. However, what I'm most surprised and happy about is just how bloody welcoming everyone is in accepting people.

I have a close trans male friend and he moved out here with his partner to remove the busy city life, and was worried about going to such a small town. He's been here nearly two years and doesn't want to leave. People defend his choices here, and he is so loved it is beyond amazing. So when it came to HP and JKR, it was incredibly painful because like myself and really many children of the 90's, that's our fantasy life under threat. That's an attack on being a child, of being denied escape from a shitty place or feeling because the creator is a cunt of a bigot who truly hates anyone that isn't her subset of rules.

So when it came to Hogwarts Legacy, I actually sat down with my friend and had a deep conversation on the pros, cons, flaws and values of just what a piece of content like this means. It's something incredibly hard to really give one answer to, or even determine how exactly to handle it when it is both intrinsically intertwined into the HP world of JKR AND also part of a seperate team of developers creation. Like someone else said, seperating art from creator is incredibly hard in this instance because art wouldn't have been there had it not been for creator.

Truly, it is something I can genuinely see as being difficult to easily breakdown as a yes or no. That is incredibly opposing to the fact that JKR herself can so easily breakdown trans rights without any difficulty and even revels in that power to do so. As much as some will see this as a far simpler "you either do or you don't" decision, for others it will be a genuine struggle.

My views are pretty simplistic in the grand scheme of things, I prefer to act logically but with care to those struggling and in need. Talking to my trans friend, we decided that in order for me to both appreciate the artist (in this case the developers) and the content that has quite literally shaped my early teenage life, that it must be balanced. So I'm going to be donating double the cost of the game to an organisation in Brisbane, Australia that was picked by my friend as it was the place he gained the most support during his transition and quite literally saved his life.

I know this whole post is a justification for a purchase of something that plenty of people will rightfully decline and wonder why I can't do the same. As I said, everyone is going to be unique in these situations but I wanted to shed some light on my point of view. A balance for me only comes by balancing out the hate and anger that one woman has created by doubling the efforts to making the world better for those who deserve to be in this world because they want to live as themselves.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-21#post-99685999

Apologies for not getting a reply sooner, I'm travelling back home and it's a solid 8 hour trip so get spurts of time to write.

I 100% agree with both your responses, and I completely understand my own personal experiences are no where near what occurs on a daily basis for anyone trans or LGBTQ. I am fully aware that my addition to this thread is in essence a note of "please see I'm justifying my actions by doing thoughtful things" and will own that on my conscience. It is why I brought it up in the first place despite initially not knowing if I should, and why I work closely with my trans friend to better understand the world they and others share so that I can do better.

We have to do better, and for me I believe giving to an organisation that personally helped a good friend actually be here today is a balancing act of kindness and awareness. I know others will not see that, and I don't judge those responses at all nor the ones I receive for mine. I hope that one day this world can actually be a place of care and kindness for anyone, no matter their choices of personal living that don't affect anyone.

I truly hope anyone in this thread or those reading who are affected can be loved and cared for. This world needs more of that, and I wholeheartedly agree that less weight be given to a game and more to the actual human beings living the nightmares. The nightmares that vile pieces of shit put on others because they themselves are insecure and unable to comprehend care for anyone.

Something this ban really highlighted to me is how bans in Resetera are almost exclusively punitive. This guy was open, presented his thought process, acknowledged the issues and was engaging in further discussion. He didn't break any rule at all with this engagement, but people disagreed with his position and because the people who disagreed are from a protected group he needed to be punished. Not because he needed a timeout, not because he was disrupting the forum but with the sole purpose to give the people who disagreed with him a gratification.

And this applies to so many other bans as well. They're so rarely about improving the forum or banning people who are completely out of line, instead it's just about showing other people "here, he got punished, feel happy now". No wonder the forum is full of ban baiting when the mods encourage that this is the way to "win" a discussion.

[Averon]

I want to repeat again that the most important thing in these people's lives at the moment is whether other people play a silly wizards themed video game that has zero actual transphobia in it. You'd think with all the dead trans people from the genocide that's supposedly happening at this moment, these people would focus on more important matters? Talk about misplaced priorities.

[Pissy F Benny]

This game IS the genocide, bigot.

[Snoopycat_]

while they are banned what a waste of words for a post that can be boiled down to "I have a trans friend but am still buying the game, can a trans person here tell me it's okay"? Nah, I'm more militant than most I shall admit but I'll not only not absolve you I will actively disrespect you more than someone who at least keeps their mouth shut.

The fucking hypocrisy never ends. Only militant when it's convenient

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-21#post-99695401

[BIONIC]

I like how there’s literally zero transphobic content in the game (it seems you can even make your character trans), so they’re hammering the “goblins are Jewish caricatures” thing really hard now