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[BIONIC]

Fuck off.

Also, transwomen stop biologically being men when they start hormones. You do not and will not retain that previous strength. At all.

Now I’m no biology expert, but uhhhh… that doesn’t sound quite accurate.

This is the post that will prevent from holding office.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

ZeroVagine at 41 posts and Fj0823 at 39 posts in that thread. Every single post running damage control for Marvel.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/mission-impossible-7-first-test-screenings-reactions-say-another-cruise-missile-is-about-to-strike-audiences-cinema-yet-again.687682/#post-101377882

"But we don't make threads celebrating Cruise getting money for his Bullshit, we make threads about impressive box office runs, promise"

 

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-52#post-101355901

Ugh… yesterday I heard my wife and mother-in-law complaining about how JK Rowling is unfairly called transphobic. Then the conversation switched to how trans women shouldn’t be allowed to play sports. I realize the second topic is a grey area but still, the spirit of the conversation was so unsettling. I didn’t say anything because I was kind of stunned and I also had no interest in picking a fight with my monther-in-law who just spent her entire weekend helping us clean up after a natural disaster. Still I should probably broach this topic with my wife. I just feel sick about it

This is art.

Bitch boy's ethics are strangely flexible in the face of his scary mother in law. Little pussy.

[BIONIC]

Edit: I looked for Rambo NSFW pics but it was all gay and the filter on my parents comp blocks that stuff.  Sry

Sounds like you should disown your parents unless you’re a homophobe as well. Are you a homophobe, shitlord?

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/say-something-about-your-best-friend.687589/#post-101362984

My wife is my best friend. People have said she looks like a K-pop star.

Weird flex but ok

Does his wife know they're in a relationship?

[Potato]

Hello Friends,

I need recommendation/tips....I am thinking about going to the London, England sometime later this year and want to visit Paris, France.

What train line do you recommend?

How's the pricing and what class do you recommend?

Any tips on train rides? I never rode on a passenger train before.
 

I hope ERA residents will help solve this mystery.

What is it with yanks and needing to put the name of the country after the name of one of the most immediately recognisable cities in the world?

No one is going to confuse fucking London, Ohio or Paris, Texas as an actual destination that anyone would want to travel to...

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ant-man-and-the-wasp-quantumania-review-thread-ant-man-and-the-wasp-is-apparently-a-classic-now-rt-54-mc-49.686584/page-24#post-101344528

NWH got carried by nostalgia. The movie itself is aggressively mediocre.

Nope. You're wrong.

No Way Home has nostalgia, obviously, but it does not carry the film. What carries the film the amount of heart it has, the great set pieces and the bold ending.

It is one of the best superhero films of the past decade.

 

I enjoyed NWH solely because Maguire and Garfield so it was definitely nostalgia.

I hated how they literally built in 10 seconds of nothing happening when the portals opened so that the audience would have time to clap and cheer for those two without missing any dialogue. it's disingenuous filmmaking.

(Image removed from quote.)

Clapping and cheering during a movie?

 


Only if you're a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow

[Boredfrom]

Also, transwomen stop biologically being men when they start hormones. You do not and will not retain that previous strength. At all.

…

…

This are the people that RE administration bends for…

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/playstation-vr2-hardware-reviews.687361/#post-101345092

It's been clear for months now : PSVR2 = Great hardware, not that expensive in terms of what you get for the price, but it will live or die based on Sony's will to release big games on it.

I cancelled my preorder last week because too much games are coming on various platforms, but it will give me time to see if the hype is still around at the end of the year.

More expensive than PS5 and can't connect to PC but sure not that expensive

The Playstation fanboyism at Reeee/Neogoof is off the charts and always has been. It's very obvious that the PS1/2 was the first console for the majority of the users.

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/saudi-arabia-continue-to-increase-its-stake-in-nintendo-now-up-to-7.687319/page-6#post-101360065

Don't forget about both Animal Crossing and Splatoon advancing in that direction too. Pokemon has also gotten rid of the "are you a boy or a girl". They may be slow, but they are pushing towards the right direction.

Were they seriously that triggered?

In the pics that make you laugh thread they took down the Best Friends Forever pig cow bacon/cheeseburger meme because..

Oh. OP instantly ruined the thread for me because whenever I see this it makes me incredibly sad thinking about how shitty humanity is in finding this amusing. [...edited out stuff because I was upset finding this when I needed cheering up...]

man do you remember those threads at gaf and how that pic was omnipresent? anyone remember Aguirre? wonder if they moved to era

[Nintex]

Hello Friends,

I need recommendation/tips....I am thinking about going to the London, England sometime later this year and want to visit Paris, France.

What train line do you recommend?

How's the pricing and what class do you recommend?

Any tips on train rides? I never rode on a passenger train before.
 

I hope ERA residents will help solve this mystery.

What is it with yanks and needing to put the name of the country after the name of one of the most immediately recognisable cities in the world?

No one is going to confuse fucking London, Ohio or Paris, Texas as an actual destination that anyone would want to travel to...

East Palestine

The dangerous and polluted one in Ohio, not the other one.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/evangeline-lilly-says-that-marvel-studios-has-been-very-respectful-of-her-controversial-anti-vax-views.687724/#post-101380069

this doesn't make sense, disney and marvel are at the forefront of progressivism and holding people accountable, they would never do this

 

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-52#post-101366068

There are way more biological advantages person to person than there are between genders, and if we don't allow trans people to play sports with the gender they identify with... then reasonably speaking we shouldn't let Michael Phelps compete against anyone with a shorter wingspan to height that he has.

This is absolutely ridiculous. A low ranked 30-year-old male tennis player beat Serena and Venus 6–1 and 6–2. There is an insurmountable physical gap between men and women with equal training regimes; this isn't even up for scientific debate. Transwomen should be able to compete in women's sports, but pretending there are no biological differences in the performance of male and female athletes is no different from covering your eyes and ears and pretending what's there isn't.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-53#post-101366503

Trans women* are not physically equivalent to cis men.
*that satisfy all the various regulations that govern who can compete in womens' events

I added stuff to clarify my position; I don't believe trans women shouldn't be able to compete in women's sports. "That cis guy is just pretending to be a trans woman to be able to outperform women in competitions" is a silly South Park strawman, not unlike JK's "rapists will wear dresses to get access to women-only spaces and nobody will be able to stop them" nonsense. I'm just saying that pretending the truth isn't the truth doesn't help anyone.

Please put a space between trans and woman.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-53#post-101377405

Fuck off.

Also, transwomen stop biologically being men when they start hormones. You do not and will not retain that previous strength. At all.

I didn't even say that they shouldn't compete in women sports, much less that they are biologically male.

Amazing how contentious it is to merely say that there are differences between men and women. How can you even have any discussion like that

[BIONIC]

Please put a space between trans and woman.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/small-reminder-its-trans-women-not-transwomen-and-likewise-trans-men-not-transmen.687703/

That's it, that's the thread. Just a 🤏 small reminder as I still see it around from well-meaning peeps.

Tall woman
Blonde woman
Black woman
Trans woman
Happy woman

Simple ✨

In exchange: smol cat.

https://youtu.be/W86cTIoMv2U

🌻 Have a beautiful day/night 🌷

Really focusing on the important things here

(Yes, the thread is members only)

[Potato]

Please put a space between trans and woman.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/small-reminder-its-trans-women-not-transwomen-and-likewise-trans-men-not-transmen.687703/

That's it, that's the thread. Just a 🤏 small reminder as I still see it around from well-meaning peeps.

Tall woman
Blonde woman
Black woman
Trans woman
Happy woman

Simple ✨

In exchange: smol cat.

https://youtu.be/W86cTIoMv2U

🌻 Have a beautiful day/night 🌷

Really focusing on the important things here

(Yes, the thread is members only)

I would insist on spelling it out in its entirety. Transexual woman. Just really go all out with spelling transexual out in full.

[Uncle]

I would start putting in two spaces and you can interpret the extra space between those two words any way you like

[Greatness Gone]

Bingo. It's a descriptive term. Combining them creates this impression of an implied "as opposed to woman".

Transwomen ARE NOT women and should not be described as such for a bevy of reasons. Demarcating a clear separation between two completely different kinds of human beings doesn't invalidate trans identities. It's just using language to call people what they are.

[HaughtyFrank]

It's incredibly important to put a space between trans and women but also why the fuck are you offended at being called person who mensturates

[railGUN]

And since we're on the subject, it's a lot, not alot.

 

[Nintex]

[Uncle]

Bingo. It's a descriptive term. Combining them creates this impression of an implied "as opposed to woman".

Transwomen ARE NOT women and should not be described as such for a bevy of reasons. Demarcating a clear separation between two completely different kinds of human beings doesn't invalidate trans identities. It's just using language to call people what they are.

this is something I will never understand

for like a decade there was all this emphasis on how trans women are women, and to not be referred to as a woman (i.e. being called a trans woman) is deeply troubling and dysphoric

to not be known as a woman causes distress which leads to suicide

so why the fuck do so many era threads talk about "trans women" all the time? just talk about women like you say you wanted

"J.K. Rowling's words often hurt women"

"a woman was killed in the UK and the police don't yet consider it a hate crime"

etc etc

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/saudi-arabia-continue-to-increase-its-stake-in-nintendo-now-up-to-7.687319/page-7#post-101370079

Yeah, the media and fans bent over backwards to do what they could to boycott that game that came out last week and it seems that said game is going to be one of the highest selling games of 2023. So they did all that just to feel better about themselves because clearly it didn't have the intended affect.

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/saudi-arabia-continue-to-increase-its-stake-in-nintendo-now-up-to-7.687319/page-7#post-101370079

Yeah, the media and fans bent over backwards to do what they could to boycott that game that came out last week and it seems that said game is going to be one of the highest selling games of 2023. So they did all that just to feel better about themselves because clearly it didn't have the intended affect.

But RE told me that the Media was complicit in the genocide.

[Uncle]

I assumed that was yet another deep corruption of "nepenthe" but that's the actual username 

[joeboy101]

Please put a space between trans and woman.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/small-reminder-its-trans-women-not-transwomen-and-likewise-trans-men-not-transmen.687703/

That's it, that's the thread. Just a 🤏 small reminder as I still see it around from well-meaning peeps.

Tall woman
Blonde woman
Black woman
Trans woman
Happy woman

Simple ✨

In exchange: smol cat.

https://youtu.be/W86cTIoMv2U

🌻 Have a beautiful day/night 🌷

Really focusing on the important things here

(Yes, the thread is members only)

But they're not there to give you a set of rules or guidelines to follow. Not at all.

Just not be evil!

 

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/saudi-arabia-continue-to-increase-its-stake-in-nintendo-now-up-to-7.687319/page-4#post-101348830

User Banned (1 Month): Inflammatory accusation, history of trolling and hostility.

Uh-huh. Very easy to boycott products you weren't buying in the first place (your post history shows you've never posted in a Nintendo related thread). Get that fake righteousness outta here.

Literally posted in the direct thread last week.

Good job on the detective work and defending Saudi Arabia. Hope it's worth it.

[Greatness Gone]

Bingo. It's a descriptive term. Combining them creates this impression of an implied "as opposed to woman".

Transwomen ARE NOT women and should not be described as such for a bevy of reasons. Demarcating a clear separation between two completely different kinds of human beings doesn't invalidate trans identities. It's just using language to call people what they are.

this is something I will never understand

for like a decade there was all this emphasis on how trans women are women, and to not be referred to as a woman (i.e. being called a trans woman) is deeply troubling and dysphoric

to not be known as a woman causes distress which leads to suicide

so why the fuck do so many era threads talk about "trans women" all the time? just talk about women like you say you wanted

"J.K. Rowling's words often hurt women"

"a woman was killed in the UK and the police don't yet consider it a hate crime"

etc etc

because biological women do not get the good girl points and special treatment that transwomen get on the internet, as evidenced by every CIS SLUT being a fucking JEZEBEL BITCH on ree so they have no other choice than to self identify as trans.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/which-game-do-you-think-will-turn-out-better-atomic-heart-or-s-t-a-l-k-e-r-2.686824/page-2#post-101298913

User Banned (1 Week): Ban advocation.

Atomic Heart should be banned on Era just like Hogwart’s Legacy is because of Russian investors with close ties to sanctioned Gazprom and gathering data for FSB via game’s website.

Don't know much about the people behind both games to be quite honest, but imagine if you had to feel bad everytime an american game is released, for all the international laws broken and the crimes committed by the US since videogames exist…

That being said, I'm putting my faith on Stalker.

Great whataboutism.

[Greatness Gone]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/saudi-arabia-continue-to-increase-its-stake-in-nintendo-now-up-to-7.687319/page-4#post-101348830

User Banned (1 Month): Inflammatory accusation, history of trolling and hostility.

Uh-huh. Very easy to boycott products you weren't buying in the first place (your post history shows you've never posted in a Nintendo related thread). Get that fake righteousness outta here.

Literally posted in the direct thread last week.

Good job on the detective work and defending Saudi Arabia. Hope it's worth it.

they would have let him stay if this post were about Russia instead of SA.

or maybe not 

[Polident Hive]

And since we're on the subject, it's a lot, not alot.

 

what ever man

[NegativeCrepe]

I would start putting in two spaces and you can interpret the extra space between those two words any way you like

thats where the "dick" goes

or where the dick disappeared from

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-53#post-101380126

Also the books absolutely do not really repudiate the idea of pure blood pride being bad lol.

They don't? I ask because it's been a while since I last read them but from what I recall, there were no "good" characters that backed the idea of mudbloods being less than. I do recall several comments/ discussions in the book where it's clearly explained that mudblood is a vial thing to call someone and people who believe others are less than due to their blood are wrong.
I always drew strong correlation to Nazis and Jews when I read it.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-53#post-101381071

They literally give them their own house to hang out with each other

... I really don't remember that. Do you know which book it was in? Since you commented on this, I've not been able to help myself and have been searching like crazy across google for any reference to a house specifically for mudbloods. I've not found anything.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-53#post-101382070

Slytherin they give pure bloods their own house that's what I'm talking about.

You can't be like we oppose x supremacy but welcome x supremacists to our school and will happily place them all together

Oh, my misunderstanding. I thought you were saying they gave mudbloods their own house.
Not all Slytherin were pure blood. Snape and Tom Riddle were both born from wizard/muggle families (not pure - also drawing parallels to Nazis/Hitler).
In the books, Mudblood is very clearly an insult and not a nice one used by anyone who is considered good. It's pretty clear the more I remember and look into this, that is the point.
"Mudblood is a foul, nasty name for a witch or wizard who is Muggle-born (literally "dirty blood"). It is not a term used in polite company"
There is so much to not like about JK without having to look for things that aren't really valid.
Slytherin as a house almost in itself acts as a bad guy in the books. The people who most notoriously commit evil are part of the house.
I don't understand why having bad people doing and saying bad things in a story is in anyway encouraging/ supporting those actions and ideas. The stories go out of their way to comment many times how things like calling someone mudbloods should be reprimanded.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-53#post-101383738

Let's just drop this

Better things to do here

 

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-saami-council-have-demanded-square-enix-immediately-remove-the-“far-northern-attire”-from-final-fantasy-xiv.687769/

This is...I don't know. I agree that Square Enix should remove the attire and that it's significantly disrespectful, but the idea of important cultural elements being legal property, and then licensing those elements out to specific companies under certain conditions (monetary compensation?) really seems to undermine those arguments to me. Feels a bit gross.

Isn’t this what RE always wanted?

[DJ Bedroom]

I bet that motherfucker gets banned for DARING to question JOANNE TERF BITCH's HACK ASS WRITING

[maninthemirror]

If someone is looking for account suicide on era


Gender affirming care is not you taking care of the needs of the child . The word gender affirm means enabling a child’s behavior on their gender

So

1. It means that if a child says I’m a girl you are not allowing the child to freely explore which could mean a child is likely to come back and say no I’m a boy . Gender affirming literally means that you enable his choice .
So if a child steals a toy and you enable that behavior , the child will accept that as normal and be encouraged to the point it becomes their personality and they think stealing is normal even in adulthood . If you let the child explore without affirming a lot of children go through that phase. It used to be a phase and those same kids from
Decades ago turned out fine . Most parents now don’t even remember their 30 year old had a 3 month period where they thought they were a girl but if those same parents enabled that thinking that same person would be a Joanne hating twitter activist today

2. Parents are influenced by societal behaviors and trans activists admit parents make decisions based on what’s the trend or what’s viral . This applies to their choice to choose to go with the gender affirming route

3. The trans activists say studies say 95% of kids who transition stay a trans . No shit . If you steal and your parents enable that behavior or if you lie and parents enable that behavior, 95% of the kids who steal will steal in adulthood and same will lie as if it’s nothing in adulthood

I talked to two child psychiatrists who are generally liberal and who are tired that their organization is pushing gender affirming care but they have to flllow the rules . They said there was a trend to give pills to kids for adhd in school and that is now forgotten after a decade .

Study : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6177548/

Background

Adolescence and young adulthood are critical periods to establish health behaviour. Environmental determinants are associated with youth health risk behaviours. These populations are impressionable to a range of social and physical environmental factors.

Keyword : “impressionable to environmental factors” ala gender affirming care



Tldr : instead of choice and free will, Gender affirming care is validation without a choice to return back

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/james-cameron-says-thanos-had-a-viable-solution.687775/

Cameron may have also intended to make a larger point to Hollywood. When the director brought the idea for the first Avatar to 20th Century Fox, he says executives asked him to strip the script of “tree hugging” because they thought it wouldn’t sell tickets. He refused. Avatar went on to achieve massive success, grossing nearly $3 billion globally. Since then, other movies like Avengers: Infinity War have tackled climate change. Still, that Marvel blockbuster doesn’t exactly endorse green activism. In fact, it’s the villain who becomes so concerned with waning resources that he uses magic to snap his fingers and demolish half of all life in the universe. “I can relate to Thanos,” Cameron says. “I thought he had a pretty viable answer. The problem is nobody is going to put up their hand to volunteer to be the half that has to go.”

Unreal thing to say

Absolutely ridiculous

 

[NekoFever]

It really isn't, there's no biological advantage to a trans woman playing in womens sports, the same way there's no biological advantage to a trans man playing in mens sports. If there was, we'd have seen a lot more records being broken by trans people in their respective sports than we have.

There are way more biological advantages person to person than there are between genders, and if we don't allow trans people to play sports with the gender they identify with... then reasonably speaking we shouldn't let Michael Phelps compete against anyone with a shorter wingspan to height that he has.

I can’t tell if this one is being disingenuous (especially on the bolded) or is just a moron.

[Averon]

Another bullshit Incelsheets thread
Even I don't think she's dumb enough to take what Cameron said seriously. It's just as excuse for her to mindlessly argue with others.

[Polident Hive]

Recent podcast listen had James Cameron on as a guest. Hosts asked Jim if he ever caught Ernest Borgnine masturbating on the set of Escape from New York.

Where’s that thread?

[FUME5]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/saudi-arabia-continue-to-increase-its-stake-in-nintendo-now-up-to-7.687319/page-6#post-101360065

Don't forget about both Animal Crossing and Splatoon advancing in that direction too. Pokemon has also gotten rid of the "are you a boy or a girl". They may be slow, but they are pushing towards the right direction.

Were they seriously that triggered?

In the pics that make you laugh thread they took down the Best Friends Forever pig cow bacon/cheeseburger meme because..

Oh. OP instantly ruined the thread for me because whenever I see this it makes me incredibly sad thinking about how shitty humanity is in finding this amusing. [...edited out stuff because I was upset finding this when I needed cheering up...]

Alright that's the final fucking straw, now it's WAR.

[benjipwns]

I wonder if there is public relations campaign JK is doing because it seems she’s been on some podcasts and now she has that op-ed defense. Add in those legal threats. I’m sure she has a publicist and all that making it happen. Her image probably took some kind of a hit because of the game.

So much of what she does is so cynical.

Seriously, the fact that the BITCH is trying to defend herself just shows she knows how guilty she is. Innocent people don't protest at all, they simply hide forever.

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/saudi-arabia-continue-to-increase-its-stake-in-nintendo-now-up-to-7.687319/page-7#post-101370079

Yeah, the media and fans bent over backwards to do what they could to boycott that game that came out last week and it seems that said game is going to be one of the highest selling games of 2023. So they did all that just to feel better about themselves because clearly it didn't have the intended affect.

But RE told me that the Media was complicit in the genocide.

Does she mean the media that continued to publish articles about that game all the while calling for it to be boycotted? That same media that couldn't help itself but to review it, even when they were blacklisted from getting a review copy? Yeah, I wonder why it's one of the biggest selling games of the year...

[Uncle]

Recent podcast listen had James Cameron on as a guest. Hosts asked Jim if he ever caught Ernest Borgnine masturbating on the set of Escape from New York.

Where’s that thread?

man now I have to rewatch it again and look real close at all the sets

[Rahxephon91]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ant-man-and-the-wasp-quantumania-review-thread-ant-man-and-the-wasp-is-apparently-a-classic-now-rt-54-mc-49.686584/page-24#post-101344528

NWH got carried by nostalgia. The movie itself is aggressively mediocre.

Nope. You're wrong.

No Way Home has nostalgia, obviously, but it does not carry the film. What carries the film the amount of heart it has, the great set pieces and the bold ending.

It is one of the best superhero films of the past decade.

 

Im sorry, No Way Home is'nt a movie.

It's a nothing burger with literally only nostalgia going for it.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-51#post-101355070
Incelsiorlef

It's hilarious that I still get massive pushback from some people when I speak about how not our friend the NYT is

Aiqops

How? There are so many examples.

Incelsiorlef

I've literally been hit with #NotAllNewYorkTimes for serious

Why is Joanne's Hate Crime banned but not the New York Times when the latter actively promotes genocide at all times?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/j-k-rowling-and-her-legacy-of-hate-the-uk-gender-critical-movement.643740/page-52#post-101361403

Sad that the Hogwarts game being talked about in various discords, and people I know that support trans rights and have ragged on Rowling in the past STILL bought the fucking game. Ugh. I will never play that shit.

If anything HL has been an excellent tool for knowing who to kick off my steam friend list.

                     discussion of Hogwart's Legacy
 

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-current-state-of-pc-gaming-is-wild.687601/#post-101364301

It is a shame that PC can't have an experience that is coded to the metal so that it just works.

Remember when NeoGAF.com relentlessly pushed back against this so people were ashamed of saying "coded to the metal" anymore. Glad to see the zeitgeist of the gaming community is back to repeating it.

Anyone feel like era which is marvel fan central is so angry that ant man was demolished by reviews and they are acting like it’s the greatest MCU film of the year

All I see is allies in the press pushing back against the anti-vax star, just like the movie goer allies only saw Black Panther 2 once because of the star's transphobic and anti-vax views instead of the repeated viewings they normally would do.

Fuck off.

Also, transwomen stop biologically being men when they start hormones. You do not and will not retain that previous strength. At all.

Now I’m no biology expert, but uhhhh… that doesn’t sound quite accurate.

Are you sure that sex isn't based on the balance of hormones in your body? Are you saying SCIENCE hasn't figured out the exact split of sex (oof can we come up with a non-transphobic term) hormones that determines each sex? Once you go one point over the threshold of estrogen BAM FEMALE. Then it's time for your skirt to go spinny.

But wait, why isn't astro pushing back against this transphobic hate against non-binary people? This is literally erasing non-binary people which is genocide.

[Uncle]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-saami-council-have-demanded-square-enix-immediately-remove-the-“far-northern-attire”-from-final-fantasy-xiv.687769/

This is...I don't know. I agree that Square Enix should remove the attire and that it's significantly disrespectful, but the idea of important cultural elements being legal property, and then licensing those elements out to specific companies under certain conditions (monetary compensation?) really seems to undermine those arguments to me. Feels a bit gross.

Isn’t this what RE always wanted?

Colonizing and dominant peoples come along all the time and make profit off of minorities' cultures through force, theft, erasure, and IP law. An Indigenous group turns the tables and demands some autonomy and regulation over their own culture and suddenly we're handwringing about what you can and cannot own.

Tale as old as time.

absolutely unhinged

If a character in a game used lederhosen would you expect them to have to pay royalties to the German people? Does every work that has people in kimonos have to pay the Japanese?

German and Japanese people, as they stand today in the world sphere, are not cultures who exist far under the bootheel of western hegemony and colonialism, so comparing them to an indigenous group that is is inherently flawed on that front. On top of that is the concern of autonomy. If the German and Japanese peoples wanted to create cultural councils that dictate how their cultures can be portrayed in profit-driven ventures, then okay. Go for it. It's their fucking culture.

so what if america did it? the most litigious country on earth that surely gets dollar signs in its eyes seeing this? nobody else can have t-shirts, baseball caps, suspenders, cowboy hats/boots, assless chaps, and anything else they want to claim is uniquely american?

who the fuck cares if it's indigenous or not? if your culture made it, you own it forever, I guess

While exploitation of indigenous people has been a problem, I don't really consider this exploitation.

They're taking a cultural artifact that doesn't belong to them out of its context, without consent, all for the sake of capitalistic profit. This is textbook exploitation.

 

you play fucking Lucio, nepenthe

did it ever occur to you that he might portray a specific culture taken out of its normal context? even portraying a member of that culture as a killer?

it's the fucking internet, nearly every post on it contains some small bit of culture that belonged to someone out there, but the nature of the web means no one actually physically loses anything

this isn't Indiana Jones plundering a temple, instead he takes a photo of the idol and respectfully leaves it alone, but sells copies of his photo
 

[Boredfrom]

you play fucking Lucio, nepenthe

Inherent blackness, motherfucker. Nephente’s race theory 101.

[benjipwns]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-saami-council-have-demanded-square-enix-immediately-remove-the-“far-northern-attire”-from-final-fantasy-xiv.687769/

Colonizing and dominant peoples come along all the time and make profit off of minorities' cultures through force, theft, erasure, and IP law. An Indigenous group turns the tables and demands some autonomy and regulation over their own culture and suddenly we're handwringing about what you can and cannot own.

Tale as old as time.

On top of that is the concern of autonomy. If the German and Japanese peoples wanted to create cultural councils that dictate how their cultures can be portrayed in profit-driven ventures, then okay. Go for it. It's their fucking culture.

While exploitation of indigenous people has been a problem, I don't really consider this exploitation.

They're taking a cultural artifact that doesn't belong to them out of its context, without consent, all for the sake of capitalistic profit. This is textbook exploitation.

You say "divest from capitalism" but yet you want permanent international IP rights claimed by any ethnic (or national? [unclear, please revise]) group enforced over depictions of everything. Interesting.

 

[Uncle]

well yeah, we can't abolish capitalism until every oppressed person has received equitable recompense, and their own turn with monetary power over others

[benjipwns]

I just wish we could get the apocalypse on so we can get to the "take a depiction of another ethnicity without their consent, leave a depiction of another ethnicity without their consent" post-capitalism future.

[Uncle]

wake up babe, new oppression DLC just dropped:

In before Greece sues Sony for their endless God of War games

This doesn't make sense because the Grecian peoples who worshipped the Greek Gods are all gone. That culture is literally dead. There is no one left to advocate for themselves on that front.

But the Saami people are still here, and they matter.

The nature of being minoritized, of becoming "Indigenous" (or an "arrivant" as I've heard termed for the Black diaspora outside of Africa ) inherently means that your culture and way of life become in opposition to and threatened by the dominant cultures surrounding you. And it is this opposition and threat that is at the heart of the issue, and why snide comparisons like "Well, I'm British, can I sue for the Union Jack hurr durr" don't work. Because British culture is largely still of the purview of the British people and dominant on the globalized world stage, and thus in a way, they actually do have some level of autonomous control over that culture.

Indigenous people don't have this privilege. This is why we call them Indigenous, and not usually by specific tribe names depending upon who we're referring to. It is why there are national councils in the first place. It is why searching for some groups online are more liable to turn up results for SUVs and helicopters than the actual people. It is why more people are aware of stereotypical depictions of Indigenous groups than of actual Indigenous culture- it was carelessly absorbed into dominant cultures with no thought for context and boiled down into meaningless iconography like in Avatar or Peter Pan.

This is why Indigenous people fight for their cultures' preservation, and why white people complain that they can't just take what they want like their grandpappies used to be able to without someone getting mad about it.

good news, you can now be indigenous anywhere you want without actually being indigenous 

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also real good look writing Saami instead of respecting their spelling of Sámi

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[Uncle]

ColdSun, Slytherin Hogwarts enjoyer and member number 1488, attempts to play his own oppression card:

So please tell me what would constitute cultural appropriation then since some of their most prominent identifying attire isn't "owned". Go ahead, please educate my ignorant Sami self.

[benjipwns]

TERF BITCH IS NOT BEING CANCELLED:


 

[Boredfrom]

ColdSun: Fuck them cheeseburgers.

[benjipwns]

The nature of being minoritized, of becoming "Indigenous" (or an "arrivant" as I've heard termed for the Black diaspora outside of Africa ) inherently means that your culture and way of life become in opposition to and threatened by the dominant cultures surrounding you. And it is this opposition and threat that is at the heart of the issue, and why snide comparisons like "Well, I'm British, can I sue for the Union Jack hurr durr" don't work. Because British culture is largely still of the purview of the British people and dominant on the globalized world stage, and thus in a way, they actually do have some level of autonomous control over that culture.

Indigenous people don't have this privilege. This is why we call them Indigenous, and not usually by specific tribe names depending upon who we're referring to. It is why there are national councils in the first place. It is why searching for some groups online are more liable to turn up results for SUVs and helicopters than the actual people. It is why more people are aware of stereotypical depictions of Indigenous groups than of actual Indigenous culture- it was carelessly absorbed into dominant cultures with no thought for context and boiled down into meaningless iconography like in Avatar or Peter Pan.

This is why Indigenous people fight for their cultures' preservation, and why white people complain that they can't just take what they want like their grandpappies used to be able to without someone getting mad about it.

This would mean that Catholics and Jews are Indigenous people (or arrivant rather) in America. And Jews would be Indigenous people everywhere but Israel which is ironic because that's the place they claim their people are indigenous to.

[benjipwns]

I'm just saying that pretending the truth isn't the truth doesn't help anyone.

Except its not the truth.

43 minute YouTube video

Stop spreading this type of garbage if you don't know what you're talking about please, acting as if trans women are anywhere near the capability of cis men is really fucking harmful.

People are seriously misreading LauraLaMer 's posts, eh.

This is what they responded to:

This is that response:

They weren't making a comparison of cis women and trans women. They were reacting to a statement using a comparison of cis women and cis men. Hormone therapy will change that equation as relates to trans women in sports, and they even said as much by saying that trans women should be allowed in women's sports. But it's not relevant to what's being talked about here because the comparison is the average between male and female cis individuals.

Like it's possible I'm just wrong but it seemed extremely clear to me and we've now had a page of people arguing past each other about completely different things.

I don't really care? This is a thread about a massively influential TERF making life absolutely hell for trans people both in and outside the UK, and the last couple of pages were mourning over the latest victim of her stochastic terror crusade. To start an argument about differences between cis people in sports right now, in this thread of all places is... fucking awful and I could really do without this kind of shit right now, like I see chuds doing this DAILY in places that claim to be just as accepting as here. It's never in good faith because it's the gateway to normalizing bigotry towards trans woman. Talking about advantages all the time instead of the very real discussion about our DISADVANTAGES. And now we have people here talking about this garbage when trans women are constantly compared to "biological males" everyday. Do you seriously not see this aint the time?

Well, I was trying to de-escalate a fight that seemed like it was going to keep getting worse due to what felt to me like a miscommunication, but you know what, your point about the greater context is an important one and I apologize.

Appreciated

To be fair, there is a good argument to be made that even if trans women WERE somehow even better than cis men, that should not change that they should be in the woman section of everything, since whatever we are stronger or whatever is 100% a goalpost move because nobody who complain that post puberty transition trans women are stronger wants to accept pre-puberty transition trans women. It is not an argument made in good faith.

Yeah i know all that, i just get heated seeing the same garbage arguments thrown around when theyre not even true. Like it should be way easier to get people on board if they werent falling for things both morally and factually wrong. Sometimes it feels like people believe horrible things just because they think the truth is always the horrible thing that's hard to take.

lmao

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/Esqueer_/status/1626206973426561025
https://twitter.com/Esqueer_/status/1626217830470520832

                 Gamergate?
 

[Boredfrom]

I trust Jangles the Sciencelad. /s

[benjipwns]

Why did Gabe put GOOD and EVIL so close together and make the EVIL banner so much bigger?!?

edit: oh god one of the DISNEY titles is by the NAZIS:


it gets worse:

[ShutUp]

Audience score already down to 84% for Ant Man and it’s still just Thursday night. Thor is at 77% and that actually managed to get better reviews than this movie. Era will spend the end of this weekend mocking anyone who doubted the MCU just because the third Ant Man (and like 25th total movie in the MCU or whatever they are at now) movie made more than the previous two did opening weekend. Then the 60-65% or more weekend two drop hits next week and the excuses begin.