Other Forums Containment Thread

[Kurt Russell]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-are-you-happy-right-now.688825/#post-101541592
First post

I’m happy that I never have to work again and can enjoy my free time however I want.

Found Cerium's new Reeeeesetera account

Can't be, he's still taking a nap

[Potato]

Their mistake was thinking funding wars that kills innocent civilians could possibly compare to..."mean" tweets from TERF Bitch Joanne. After all....

The creator of Harry Potter has basically called for the genocide of trans people. It’s obvious why the franchise is banned here.

 

"Basically" doing A LOT of heavy lifting yada-yada-yadaing the details here.

"I think dogs are more important to humanity than cats"
"OMFG YOU BASICALLY WANT TO SEE ALL CATS AND THEIR OWNERS PUT DOWN YOU FUCKING FASCIST?"

If that's the case, then Joanne (TERF bitch) must be a genocidal racist Nazi.

[team filler]

[Uncle]

Their mistake was thinking funding wars that kills innocent civilians could possibly compare to..."mean" tweets from TERF Bitch Joanne. After all....

The creator of Harry Potter has basically called for the genocide of trans people. It’s obvious why the franchise is banned here.

 

"Basically" doing A LOT of heavy lifting yada-yada-yadaing the details here.

"I think dogs are more important to humanity than cats"
"OMFG YOU BASICALLY WANT TO SEE ALL CATS AND THEIR OWNERS PUT DOWN YOU FUCKING FASCIST?"

era: "omfg I can't believe you literally compared women to dogs and trans women to cats, as if the two situations are anywhere similar, you're literally saying trans women are yowling beasts who knock things off of tables and destroy the local wildlife"

[MMaRsu]

Jeff Gerstmann said that Hogwarts Legacy is one of the best games he's ever played!

https://fakeyou.com/tts/result/TR:v0nxv0ttsy7zyw0yyjjezj18yhsh1

  (I cant believe this works)

[Snoopycat_]

In today's episode of self inflicted wounds -

To be fair, it's not just with games, it's with everything. But this is a gaming forum so..

Nowadays, with every new releases, every screenshot, every clip, everyone is just rushing to find stuff to be mad about. And it's a vicious cycle, because even if you're not mad at something, someone who is will try their darnest to make that change.
I miss when I could just be hyped about a game and not see ten thousands only takes about how that game sucks. Or how that remake is trash and an insult to the original.
Or how that new IP shouldn't exist and devs should go back to doing sequels. But then sequels are bad too, devs should do new IPs.

More and more, I feel like people just can't enjoy anything anymore. We all have to be professional critics with every single piece of content we stumble across online.

And that just.. really tires me.
I wish we could enjoy stuff again, without having to justify why.

Sorry, just needed to vent a little.

If only there was a simple solution

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-constant-negativity-in-the-gaming-community-is-draining-me.689092/


Also paging Kyuushi, paging Kyuushi. The TERF Bitch is at it again -

https://variety.com/2023/digital/news/jk-rowling-podcast-transgender-legacy-ill-be-dead-1235526478/

[Cauliflower Of Love]

I retract my statement.

[Taco Bell Tower]

Their mistake was thinking funding wars that kills innocent civilians could possibly compare to..."mean" tweets from TERF Bitch Joanne. After all....

The creator of Harry Potter has basically called for the genocide of trans people. It’s obvious why the franchise is banned here.

 

"Basically" doing A LOT of heavy lifting yada-yada-yadaing the details here.

"I think dogs are more important to humanity than cats"
"OMFG YOU BASICALLY WANT TO SEE ALL CATS AND THEIR OWNERS PUT DOWN YOU FUCKING FASCIST?"

era: "omfg I can't believe you literally compared women to dogs and trans women to cats, as if the two situations are anywhere similar, you're literally saying trans women are yowling beasts who knock things off of tables and destroy the local wildlife"

Their hero from Playstation Jim Ryan did that and they forgot about it for a week only to resume to lick his boots

[Greatness Gone]

We got some good reading material coming in today. They might actually manage to get Atomic Heart banned now that there's something in it that can offend Nepenthe.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-uh-theres-a-racist-cartoon-in-atomic-heart.689227/
https://twitter.com/RealTurniplord/status/1627767905491341319

TBH it's pretty bad imagery, but I'm not sure if it's supposed to be a satire on racism or not since I haven't played the game yet.

[Boredfrom]

Isn’t the game set in an alternate 50’s?

[Greatness Gone]

context:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-uh-theres-a-racist-cartoon-in-atomic-heart.689227/#post-101603593

This is from a super old Soviet cartoon “Nu Pogodi”, all 22 episodes of which are in the game

This picture appears in one of the episodes (it takes place in a museum) for 0.5 seconds, as you can see here at 5:50

It wasn't created for the game apparently.

[HardcoreRetro]

Isn't it set in a 1950's dystopia?



This is from a Tom and Jerry cartoon from that era.

[Greatness Gone]

Things are getting even spicier:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ministry-of-digital-transformation-of-ukraine-will-send-an-official-letter-to-sony-microsoft-valve-to-ban-the-sale-of-atomic-heart-in-ukraine.689254/

[Vertigo]

That scene from that cartoon in Atomic Heart is such a nothing burger but you know those clowns will still be utterly outraged.

It's literally a model in a museum thats on screen for all of 3 to 4 seconds.

I would understand if it was like a dodgy looney tunes cartoon but this is utterly innocuous. 

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/virtual-youtuber-ot2-clap-clap-next-thread.452203/page-1208#post-101452192

User Banned (permanent): Dismissiveness, Victim blaming, history of similar behavior

Regarding that unnamed game, from my POV of watching Reddit, it seems like the Trans community and their allies managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Prior to the release of the game, news about the boycott was getting HUGE traction, and people were raising awareness and explaining what's wrong with Rowling's views (I was doing that myself), and people seemed to be receptive to it. The boycott was already a big win for the Trans community before it even started. But once the game came out, some people started claiming that the boycott was not voluntary, that it was compulsory, and started attacking streamers for not joining in on the boycott, and the general public turned against "the Trans community" (as it was being defined by extremists) almost instantly.

I saw Altare mentioned that he wasn't going to play the game, because he was afraid of being attacked... and also because he supports the boycott. It stopped being about Altare supporting Trans people, and became about fear of a hate mob that was identifying itself as "Trans Allies".

Although, I should note that some bigots tried to give Altare shit for siding with the Trans community, and the general public turned against those bigots just as quickly as they turned against any other harassers. I think the lesson is, as a random anonymous nobody, don't try to attack a person who has any sort of popularity, because the fans like the streamer more than they like you. If you're approaching with harmless words, then people might listen. Although the discussion seems to be quite poisoned by this point.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/atomic-heart-gameplay-leak.688267/#post-101455090

User banned (1 week): Whataboutism, trolling

Ones which I can buy without worrying my money will go toward funding a genocide, for instance.

But this game isn't made in the US?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/atomic-heart-gameplay-leak.688267/#post-101460244

User banned (2 weeks): Dismissive commentary

Yyyyyea once I saw the sexy robot twins garbage, I knew this game would have mysogynistic undertones. Pretty obvious now that it does.

No thanks, better games to play made by people who don't think I'm a naggy sex object. Ones which I can buy without worrying my money will go toward funding a genocide, for instance.

Well, it's a game. It is what it is. My only concern is that latter part about how the studio can be linked to the Russian regime just by being Russian. But at the same time, I can't punish every Russian out there just like I can't punish every Chinese (hell, I'm married to one).

[Boredfrom]

Things are getting even spicier:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ministry-of-digital-transformation-of-ukraine-will-send-an-official-letter-to-sony-microsoft-valve-to-ban-the-sale-of-atomic-heart-in-ukraine.689254/

That sounds fair enough, hopefully companies don’t over exaggerate if the overall controversy of this game gains traction.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/atomic-heart-ot-soviet-shock.687115/page-3#post-101545252

User Banned (1 Week): Breaking site-wide staff post regarding advocation for banning content

Mundfish was founded by Russians (the studio is currently based in Cyprus) and they have raised funds from a Russian VC investment company.

Ouch. Thank you for the information, I won't support murderers.

A bit surprised that this thread is allowed in a first place. Just a quick reminder :

Ukraine identifies nearly 14,000 children abducted and deported by Russia
"Unfortunately, we can say that only 125 (of them) we managed to return home," the children's rights advocate said.
www.newsweek.com

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/virtual-youtuber-ot2-clap-clap-next-thread.452203/page-1208#post-101452192

User Banned (permanent): Dismissiveness, Victim blaming, history of similar behavior

Regarding that unnamed game, from my POV of watching Reddit, it seems like the Trans community and their allies managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Prior to the release of the game, news about the boycott was getting HUGE traction, and people were raising awareness and explaining what's wrong with Rowling's views (I was doing that myself), and people seemed to be receptive to it. The boycott was already a big win for the Trans community before it even started. But once the game came out, some people started claiming that the boycott was not voluntary, that it was compulsory, and started attacking streamers for not joining in on the boycott, and the general public turned against "the Trans community" (as it was being defined by extremists) almost instantly.

I saw Altare mentioned that he wasn't going to play the game, because he was afraid of being attacked... and also because he supports the boycott. It stopped being about Altare supporting Trans people, and became about fear of a hate mob that was identifying itself as "Trans Allies".

Although, I should note that some bigots tried to give Altare shit for siding with the Trans community, and the general public turned against those bigots just as quickly as they turned against any other harassers. I think the lesson is, as a random anonymous nobody, don't try to attack a person who has any sort of popularity, because the fans like the streamer more than they like you. If you're approaching with harmless words, then people might listen. Although the discussion seems to be quite poisoned by this point.

Where was the victim blaming when assholes were diminishing Mari Calliope harassing because dropping the n word  about 6 or 8 years ago? VtuberRE admitted that was unfair and disproportionate but “not my place to criticize people affected by her words”. 

Also, isn’t this Cheerilee first ban? That user was mostly super leftie, just not to point of complete insanity.  Was the excuse of “similar behavior”  because the user defended RLM and Mori?

[Taco Bell Tower]

Breaking site-wide staff post regarding advocation for banning content

What site wide staff post?  Sure as heck don't see it when I logged in on riotous account.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/virtual-youtuber-ot2-clap-clap-next-thread.452203/page-1208#post-101452192

User Banned (permanent): Dismissiveness, Victim blaming, history of similar behavior

Regarding that unnamed game, from my POV of watching Reddit, it seems like the Trans community and their allies managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Prior to the release of the game, news about the boycott was getting HUGE traction, and people were raising awareness and explaining what's wrong with Rowling's views (I was doing that myself), and people seemed to be receptive to it. The boycott was already a big win for the Trans community before it even started. But once the game came out, some people started claiming that the boycott was not voluntary, that it was compulsory, and started attacking streamers for not joining in on the boycott, and the general public turned against "the Trans community" (as it was being defined by extremists) almost instantly.

I saw Altare mentioned that he wasn't going to play the game, because he was afraid of being attacked... and also because he supports the boycott. It stopped being about Altare supporting Trans people, and became about fear of a hate mob that was identifying itself as "Trans Allies".

Although, I should note that some bigots tried to give Altare shit for siding with the Trans community, and the general public turned against those bigots just as quickly as they turned against any other harassers. I think the lesson is, as a random anonymous nobody, don't try to attack a person who has any sort of popularity, because the fans like the streamer more than they like you. If you're approaching with harmless words, then people might listen. Although the discussion seems to be quite poisoned by this point.

Where was the victim blaming when assholes were diminishing Mari Calliope harassing because dropping the n word  about 6 or 8 years ago? VtuberRE admitted that was unfair and disproportionate but “not my place to criticize people affected by her words”. 

Also, isn’t this Cheerilee first ban? That user was mostly super leftie, just not to point of complete insanity.  Was the excuse of “similar behavior”  because the user defended RLM and Mori?

I think he got banned a few times but nothing too serious.  Then again it's been a long time

[HaughtyFrank]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/virtual-youtuber-ot2-clap-clap-next-thread.452203/page-1208#post-101452192

User Banned (permanent): Dismissiveness, Victim blaming, history of similar behavior

Regarding that unnamed game, from my POV of watching Reddit, it seems like the Trans community and their allies managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Prior to the release of the game, news about the boycott was getting HUGE traction, and people were raising awareness and explaining what's wrong with Rowling's views (I was doing that myself), and people seemed to be receptive to it. The boycott was already a big win for the Trans community before it even started. But once the game came out, some people started claiming that the boycott was not voluntary, that it was compulsory, and started attacking streamers for not joining in on the boycott, and the general public turned against "the Trans community" (as it was being defined by extremists) almost instantly.

I saw Altare mentioned that he wasn't going to play the game, because he was afraid of being attacked... and also because he supports the boycott. It stopped being about Altare supporting Trans people, and became about fear of a hate mob that was identifying itself as "Trans Allies".

Although, I should note that some bigots tried to give Altare shit for siding with the Trans community, and the general public turned against those bigots just as quickly as they turned against any other harassers. I think the lesson is, as a random anonymous nobody, don't try to attack a person who has any sort of popularity, because the fans like the streamer more than they like you. If you're approaching with harmless words, then people might listen. Although the discussion seems to be quite poisoned by this point.

"Don't say that harassing and doxxing streamers is bad, that's victim blaming" This is seriously a position reseteras mods believe in

[NekoFever]

We got some good reading material coming in today. They might actually manage to get Atomic Heart banned now that there's something in it that can offend Nepenthe.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-uh-theres-a-racist-cartoon-in-atomic-heart.689227/
https://twitter.com/RealTurniplord/status/1627767905491341319

TBH it's pretty bad imagery, but I'm not sure if it's supposed to be a satire on racism or not since I haven't played the game yet.

Era when someone finds something objectionable in a game they don’t like:

[Snoopycat_]

Waiting for Nep to work herself into a towering fit of rage

 

[Boredfrom]

Things are getting even spicier:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ministry-of-digital-transformation-of-ukraine-will-send-an-official-letter-to-sony-microsoft-valve-to-ban-the-sale-of-atomic-heart-in-ukraine.689254/

Reading the linked article, they don’t say if the Ukrainian official confirmed if the game has significant investment from Putin’s oligarch cronies. The article just says:

The developers are trying to pretend that they are a Cypriot studio, but events for media representatives in Moscow and Russian sponsors. The game will be set in the Soviet Union, where a robot uprising has taken place, forcing a KGB officer to save the country. The gg editorial team urges you not to buy the game and not to sponsor the Russian government.

Something that is weird given that Putin likes the old Soviet Union purely in the imperialist and nostalgic sense to worry to be pure Soviet propaganda. Also, the game doesn’t seem to go for saving a utopian setting

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

Yyyyyea once I saw the sexy robot twins garbage, I knew this game would have mysogynistic undertones. Pretty obvious now that it does.

No thanks, better games to play made by people who don't think I'm a naggy sex object. Ones which I can buy without worrying my money will go toward funding a genocide, for instance.

A naggy sex object robot entirely replaced my genders societal purpose, signed An Big Feminist

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/virtual-youtuber-ot2-clap-clap-next-thread.452203/page-1208#post-101452192

User Banned (permanent): Dismissiveness, Victim blaming, history of similar behavior

Regarding that unnamed game, from my POV of watching Reddit, it seems like the Trans community and their allies managed to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Prior to the release of the game, news about the boycott was getting HUGE traction, and people were raising awareness and explaining what's wrong with Rowling's views (I was doing that myself), and people seemed to be receptive to it. The boycott was already a big win for the Trans community before it even started. But once the game came out, some people started claiming that the boycott was not voluntary, that it was compulsory, and started attacking streamers for not joining in on the boycott, and the general public turned against "the Trans community" (as it was being defined by extremists) almost instantly.

I saw Altare mentioned that he wasn't going to play the game, because he was afraid of being attacked... and also because he supports the boycott. It stopped being about Altare supporting Trans people, and became about fear of a hate mob that was identifying itself as "Trans Allies".

Although, I should note that some bigots tried to give Altare shit for siding with the Trans community, and the general public turned against those bigots just as quickly as they turned against any other harassers. I think the lesson is, as a random anonymous nobody, don't try to attack a person who has any sort of popularity, because the fans like the streamer more than they like you. If you're approaching with harmless words, then people might listen. Although the discussion seems to be quite poisoned by this point.

"Don't say that harassing and doxxing streamers is bad, that's victim blaming" This is seriously a position reseteras mods believe in

they fucking asked for it amirite

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I've seen some takes trying to equate sexy robots in Atomic Heart to sex slavery, which is ironic given the people making these claims likely have a fleshlight instead of a partner.

They better not have a roomba though! Slavery all up in this joint!

[Greatness Gone]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ministry-of-digital-transformation-of-ukraine-will-send-an-official-letter-to-sony-microsoft-valve-to-ban-the-sale-of-atomic-heart-in-ukraine.689254/#post-101605456

Unfortunately, this is not how things work right now. In peaceful times this would be the right stance to have, but the only way the sanctions can realistically work is to make everyone, including regular people like the developers of this game, go through economic hardship.

If Russia is to be better, the change needs to come from within.

these people are fucking awful.

[Snoopycat_]

It’s not like they’re Brazilian cam whores

[Boredfrom]

Like I said before, RE was already shitting on the game way before Russia invaded Ukraine (“is a scam guys”) so is difficult to me to totally believe that most of the money is going to Putin and friends pockets unless there is a better source given it seems to be a big game of telephone.

And again, I don’t blame the Ukrainian official for saying “fuck that game”, thought is pretty wishful to ask the platform holders to limit the release or that eurojank aficionados ignore the game. I bet the dude probably doesn’t even believe that is possible or fair, even if is genuinely a Putin production. Also, they always have asked the Russian citizens to call out the government even if they know that Putin will fuck hard any dissident.

[Greatness Gone]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-uh-theres-a-racist-cartoon-in-atomic-heart.689227/page-3#post-101607586

It was the most popular cartoon in eastern europe in the 90s, I watched as a kid, it is very innocent show, it a product of its time, I doubt they watched every episode before they added it to the game

Ban for dismissing concerns and downplaying racism PLEASE!!!!! 

[MMaRsu]

Yyyyyea once I saw the sexy robot twins garbage, I knew this game would have mysogynistic undertones. Pretty obvious now that it does.

No thanks, better games to play made by people who don't think I'm a naggy sex object. Ones which I can buy without worrying my money will go toward funding a genocide, for instance.

A naggy sex object robot entirely replaced my genders societal purpose, signed An Big Feminist

Id rather bang a robot than engage with someone like this lol

[NekoFever]

Yeah, don't get me wrong, I support banning that game. But this one directly supports genocide.

Without looking it up, is this post about Hogwarts Legacy or Atomic Heart?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-uh-theres-a-racist-cartoon-in-atomic-heart.689227/#post-101602456

User Banned (Duration Pending): Breaking site-wide staff post regarding advocation for banning content, long history of various infractions. Post reverted for context

Alright can we ban this fucking game already?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-uh-theres-a-racist-cartoon-in-atomic-heart.689227/#post-101603860

User Banned (1 Week): Meta commentary

Astounding that it hasn't happened already

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-uh-theres-a-racist-cartoon-in-atomic-heart.689227/#post-101603971

User Banned (1 Week): Meta commentary

They ban that other game that shall not be named but not this.... yeah o... k

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-uh-theres-a-racist-cartoon-in-atomic-heart.689227/#post-101604334

User Banned (1 Week): Meta commentary

How is harry potter banned from this fourm but not this game?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-uh-theres-a-racist-cartoon-in-atomic-heart.689227/#post-101604928

User Banned (1 Week): Meta commentary

That's what I am wondering.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-uh-theres-a-racist-cartoon-in-atomic-heart.689227/page-2#post-101606140

User banned (1 week): Metacommentary

Well it wouldn't be "a game", it would be hundreds of games.

Well, when you set a precedent it should be followed in all situations, no? But it's quite simple, one is a cause that the mods care about and the other isn't.

[HardcoreRetro]

Yeah, don't get me wrong, I support banning that game. But this one directly supports genocide.

Without looking it up, is this post about Hogwarts Legacy or Atomic Heart?

I imagine it's about Putt-Putt goes to the Moon.

That fucker couldn't just stop at ruining the earth with his fossil fuels. He needs to ruin the moon as well.

[HaughtyFrank]

Breaking site-wide staff post

Where the fuck is that post? It's not even part of your guidelines 

[Boredfrom]

I remember that Visa Wife also tried to cancel the main dude from Ice-pick lodge games because “sexual harassment accusations” but his only English source was a random Reddit post that claimed it was a big online shitshow at Russia.

(Which is kind of useless given the studio retreated hard to mobile and casual games, even if they still try to be artistic).

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ministry-of-digital-transformation-of-ukraine-will-send-an-official-letter-to-sony-microsoft-valve-to-ban-the-sale-of-atomic-heart-in-ukraine.689254/#post-101604076

User banned (permanent): Troll account

I'm sure Putin's govt will fall as soon as they get the game banned

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ministry-of-digital-transformation-of-ukraine-will-send-an-official-letter-to-sony-microsoft-valve-to-ban-the-sale-of-atomic-heart-in-ukraine.689254/#post-101605597

User banned (1 week): Metacommentary

Lovely. That's a nice hill you've got yourself.

Will AH get an Era ban?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ministry-of-digital-transformation-of-ukraine-will-send-an-official-letter-to-sony-microsoft-valve-to-ban-the-sale-of-atomic-heart-in-ukraine.689254/page-2#post-101606893

User Banned (Permanent): Troll account

Please, don't mix politics and videogames. I am really reallly tired of this nazi-like madness. There are different opinions on this all over the world and all must be respected. Their censorship requests are simply unacceptable. I couldn't care less who is selling this game, let me play what I prefer, please.

[Propagandhim]

I'm sure Putin's govt will fall as soon as they get the game banned

Lol making jokes about Ukraine banning a game when you're on a forum that treats you like a toddler and won't let you even speak the name of a children's game.  Sorry, these kinds of criticisms are only valid when they come from people with a spine.

Because banning a game because it is made in a certain country is fucking stupid, that's why.
Devs are not responsible for the action of their governement.

Again, this criticism means nothing coming from you pacifier-suckers.

[Boredfrom]

Doesn’t China has way more direct and verifiable links with national (and international, btw) video game companies ? And people get called sinophobics to point this shit out? I still play Chinese gachas but is completely valid criticism that is received as conspiracy theories but Atomic Heart being directly tied to oligarchs is almost treated like the absolute truth with less clear evidence.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

Obviously, it could be totally true, I just need something better than blog posts and half translated statements

[close]

[Propagandhim]

To these people, Ukraine has less of a reason to ban Russian products than Hogwarts Legacy being banned because of Joanne.  This is your brain on ideology. 

[Propagandhim]

Doesn’t China has way more direct and verifiable links with national (and international, btw) video game companies ? And people get called sinophobics to point this shit out? I still play Chinese gachas but is completely valid criticism that is received as conspiracy theories but Atomic Heart being directly tied to oligarchs is almost treated like the absolute truth with less clear evidence.

It doesn't seem extremely far-fetched for Ukraine to want to ban Russian products in their country.

[Greatness Gone]

Doesn’t China has way more direct and verifiable links with national (and international, btw) video game companies ? And people get called sinophobics to point this shit out? I still play Chinese gachas but is completely valid criticism that is received as conspiracy theories but Atomic Heart being directly tied to oligarchs is almost treated like the absolute truth with less clear evidence.

china is only treated that way on Ree because of the asian-era exodus a few years ago. so now moderation overcompensates with automatic bans whenever asian topics are brought up.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/how-do-we-fix-the-news-please-do-not-answer-%E2%80%9Cwe-can%E2%80%99t%E2%80%9D-looking-for-solutions-large-or-small.688009/#post-101587900

Molotov Cocktails.
I've lost all hope and imagination.

[joeboy101]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/so-uh-theres-a-racist-cartoon-in-atomic-heart.689227/page-2#post-101606140

User banned (1 week): Metacommentary

Well it wouldn't be "a game", it would be hundreds of games.

Well, when you set a precedent it should be followed in all situations, no? But it's quite simple, one is a cause that the mods care about and the other isn't.

 

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ministry-of-digital-transformation-of-ukraine-will-send-an-official-letter-to-sony-microsoft-valve-to-ban-the-sale-of-atomic-heart-in-ukraine.689254/#post-101604076

User banned (permanent): Troll account

I'm sure Putin's govt will fall as soon as they get the game banned

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ministry-of-digital-transformation-of-ukraine-will-send-an-official-letter-to-sony-microsoft-valve-to-ban-the-sale-of-atomic-heart-in-ukraine.689254/#post-101605597

User banned (1 week): Metacommentary

Lovely. That's a nice hill you've got yourself.

Will AH get an Era ban?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-ministry-of-digital-transformation-of-ukraine-will-send-an-official-letter-to-sony-microsoft-valve-to-ban-the-sale-of-atomic-heart-in-ukraine.689254/page-2#post-101606893

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Please, don't mix politics and videogames. I am really reallly tired of this nazi-like madness. There are different opinions on this all over the world and all must be respected. Their censorship requests are simply unacceptable. I couldn't care less who is selling this game, let me play what I prefer, please.

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the stuff in the op has been known for months, we had at least one thread about it. so, i guess era's stance on this is pretty clear. the silence is deafining.

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Well it wouldn't be "a game", it would be hundreds of games.

Well, when you set a precedent it should be followed in all situations, no? But it's quite simple, one is a cause that the mods care about and the other isn't.

 

it's very accurate. does nobody on Ree question why almost every single mod except for slayven and b-dumbs on there is a they/them or transgender (and some of them like nepenthe flip flop on being all of those depending on the context). it's no wonder why trans topics get preferential treatment.

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Doesn’t China has way more direct and verifiable links with national (and international, btw) video game companies ? And people get called sinophobics to point this shit out? I still play Chinese gachas but is completely valid criticism that is received as conspiracy theories but Atomic Heart being directly tied to oligarchs is almost treated like the absolute truth with less clear evidence.

It doesn't seem extremely far-fetched for Ukraine to want to ban Russian products in their country.

Of course not, and  I don’t blame them.

And I bet you that the Ukrainians still interested on the game will find another avenues without so much protest or complain to their government.

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A rogue nation run by a sociopathic dictator that poisons political opposition, throws anyone deemed objectionable out of windows, constantly threatens nuclear war, invades sovereign nations, doesn't adhere to any international standards of conduct, commits war crimes is trying to sell its products abroad.  The country being incurred upon decides to ban their products.  Lets have a huge, contentious discussion about the implications of such a banning.

A children's game that somehow, but nobody knows just how much, enriches some kids' book writer that is somehow transphobic, but nobody is really specific about it -- it's just understood apriori that even mentioning the name of this game is violence.  No mention, let a lone a discussion is necessary.   


You fucking FREAKS.

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Well it wouldn't be "a game", it would be hundreds of games.

Well, when you set a precedent it should be followed in all situations, no? But it's quite simple, one is a cause that the mods care about and the other isn't.

 

it's very accurate. does nobody on Ree question why almost every single mod except for slayven and b-dumbs on there is a they/them or transgender (and some of them like nepenthe flip flop on being all of those depending on the context). it's no wonder why trans topics get preferential treatment.

Slayven is illiterate so they choose to not take him seriously.

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Someone's not falling in line with the accepted ban message naming conventions.

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Well it wouldn't be "a game", it would be hundreds of games.

Well, when you set a precedent it should be followed in all situations, no? But it's quite simple, one is a cause that the mods care about and the other isn't.

 

it's very accurate. does nobody on Ree question why almost every single mod except for slayven and b-dumbs on there is a they/them or transgender (and some of them like nepenthe flip flop on being all of those depending on the context). it's no wonder why trans topics get preferential treatment.

I think it has more to do with TumblrTwitter social activism  and white guilt than most mods being Transsexual.  How many actually confirmed Transexuals or gender-fluid mods are in Era? I remember that Transistor has the comedy routine of “I apologize by the actions of CIS white men”. Royalan is  a black gay dude but confirmed  Acephobic (  ) by KetKat

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people need to start posting things like

"for god's sake guys, DON'T ADVOCATE BANNING THIS GAME, the mods have already said it will not be banned and we should not second guess their decisions. for good or ill, discussion of this game is explicitly allowed in perpetuity, so let's get back to talking about how fun it is, yeah?"

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100%. Please don't provide me any context I need to publicly rage at something I don't fully understand and karma farm strangers.

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Molotov Cocktails.
I've lost all hope and imagination.

Same person who called for firebombing the Daily Mail multiple times when they deadnamed that kid last week.

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I'm not defending the game-- but I do have a legitimate question: The game is set in like an alternate 1950s, right? Plenty of Disney movies and cartoons like Tom and Jerry have extremely racist caricatures. It's just as harmful then as it is now. And that is just from North America. Would removing it and not acknowledging this kind of content existed then be better, or leaving it in and acknowledging the issues to learn and move on from be better?

Wait a second.  Why is the argument now about the content of the game?  I thought the priority was the harm in who profits from it, first and foremost.  Like nobody cares that you can make and meet trans characters in Cyberpunk and Hogwarts - the people who make money from it are villains.  The people who made Atomic Heart will directly profit the war machine in Russia.  Why is this no longer the point of discussion?

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Molotov Cocktails.
I've lost all hope and imagination.

Same person who called for firebombing the Daily Mail multiple times when they deadnamed that kid last week.

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ironically the same type of person who would condemn the charlie hebdo massacre/beheading of Samuel Paty. the cognitive dissonance at work here...

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Tucker must be m a l d i n g rn

that's fine with me

stay in yer fee fees for the rest of yer life numbnuts

I just want the anti war left to look at their bedfellows in this thing. You're literally against the same thing the alt right is against!

Russia's not the working class paradise people think it is, it's a worse off america!

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Molotov Cocktails.
I've lost all hope and imagination.

Same person who called for firebombing the Daily Mail multiple times when they deadnamed that kid last week.

Only the best people on this website

ironically the same type of person who would condemn the charlie hebdo massacre/beheading of Samuel Paty. the cognitive dissonance at work here...

Are you sure? a lot of RE shit talk Charlie Hebdo when some Muslim does something horrible because a cartoon of Muhammad. The usual “I don’t condone the attacks but they were racist pricks”. Most often than not, Era dislikes the concept of free speech.