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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45660 on: March 27, 2023, 10:40:17 AM »
Time for a fun thread on Resetera, my favourite gaming forum.

"Who's the better brother? Mario or Luigi?"

*20 posts later*

"Thread has been locked while we review a large number of reports. This may take an extended period of time. Should we decide to reopen this thread or give any other updates this post will be edited with the additional information. Thank you for your patience."

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45661 on: March 27, 2023, 11:22:51 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/%E2%80%98fallout%E2%80%99-writer-chris-avellone-and-accusers-issue-joint-statement-settle-lawsuit.701788/post-103250464

Thread locked, linking to the other locked thread  :lol
Do the mods even check the threads before linking?  Feels like that person used the search feature and called it a day lol

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45662 on: March 27, 2023, 11:47:55 AM »
Quote from: LegalEagleMike
This reads as pure clickbait nonsense catered towards the worst part of the fanbase.

Quote from: boontobias
Same jeff sneider who said Brie Larsen is problematic on The Marvels set. Bro is quickly building up his nerd hatecore resume

https://www.resetera.com/threads/rumor-disney-will-fire-kathleen-kennedy-if-she-doesnt-have-a-star-wars-movie-in-theaters-by-christmas-2025.701878/

daily disney shill cope thread


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45663 on: March 27, 2023, 11:52:35 AM »
Quote from: Janny communication
Sexual assault and domestic violence are issues that are simultaneously widespread and yet severely unpunished by the legal system. Most do not report; for those that do, statistically those claims will die by police inaction and rape kit backlogs. For the even fewer that are pursued, most die within the trial phase because maintaining satisfactory evidence of your assault is extremely difficult. This difficulty is compounded if the person who assaulted you holds a power differential over you in anyway: notoriety, financial, etc. Assault isn't simply something that is worth pursuing legally for most people. Is it inevitable that some claims of assault are lies? Yes. Are these statistical noise compared to the reality of assault's widespread abuse? Also yes.

Frankly, staff has become simultaneously unimpressed and disgusted with the gloating, blowback, and metacommentary that happens when people have the audacity to simply believe a woman who claimed she was harmed at face value. We do not live in a society of neutrality and equivalency on this matter, and acting like it only serves to make ResetEra more hostile to women and all victims of sexual assault in general, which is against our principles. We will be actioning this behavior from now on, starting today.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-avellone-is-an-abusive-abrasive-conniving-sexual-predator-up-claims-dismissed-threadmark.231604/page-15#post-103260562

 :crowdlaff

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45664 on: March 27, 2023, 11:53:29 AM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/%E2%80%98fallout%E2%80%99-writer-chris-avellone-and-accusers-issue-joint-statement-settle-lawsuit.701788/post-103250464

Thread locked, linking to the other locked thread  :lol

‘Discussion’ Forum locks thread and points to other locked thread on a gaming news worthy item. Well done.

Also, before the lock…

https://www.resetera.com/threads/%E2%80%98fallout%E2%80%99-writer-chris-avellone-and-accusers-issue-joint-statement-settle-lawsuit.701788/post-103249912

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Yeah, he might not be an abuser to these two folks, but he's definitely a sexual creep. And not particularly nice to other developers, especially other Obsidian folks like Josh Sawyer and Feargus Urquhart.

Messi keeps fucking that chicken.

 :nothing :umad

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45665 on: March 27, 2023, 11:55:25 AM »
Quote from: Janny communication
Sexual assault and domestic violence are issues that are simultaneously widespread and yet severely unpunished by the legal system. Most do not report; for those that do, statistically those claims will die by police inaction and rape kit backlogs. For the even fewer that are pursued, most die within the trial phase because maintaining satisfactory evidence of your assault is extremely difficult. This difficulty is compounded if the person who assaulted you holds a power differential over you in anyway: notoriety, financial, etc. Assault isn't simply something that is worth pursuing legally for most people. Is it inevitable that some claims of assault are lies? Yes. Are these statistical noise compared to the reality of assault's widespread abuse? Also yes.

Frankly, staff has become simultaneously unimpressed and disgusted with the gloating, blowback, and metacommentary that happens when people have the audacity to simply believe a woman who claimed she was harmed at face value. We do not live in a society of neutrality and equivalency on this matter, and acting like it only serves to make ResetEra more hostile to women and all victims of sexual assault in general, which is against our principles. We will be actioning this behavior from now on, starting today.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-avellone-is-an-abusive-abrasive-conniving-sexual-predator-up-claims-dismissed-threadmark.231604/page-15#post-103260562

 :crowdlaff

AKA, stop blaming moderation for letting this turn into a post-fact discovery hellhole, you monsters!

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45666 on: March 27, 2023, 11:55:29 AM »
why is he reluctant to take the L on something that doesn't even involve him in any way shape or from besides taking a slight hit to his already terrible rep on a shitty forum :girlaff
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45667 on: March 27, 2023, 12:00:47 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/%E2%80%98fallout%E2%80%99-writer-chris-avellone-and-accusers-issue-joint-statement-settle-lawsuit.701788/post-103250464

Thread locked, linking to the other locked thread  :lol

‘Discussion’ Forum locks thread and points to other locked thread on a gaming news worthy item. Well done.

Also, before the lock…

https://www.resetera.com/threads/%E2%80%98fallout%E2%80%99-writer-chris-avellone-and-accusers-issue-joint-statement-settle-lawsuit.701788/post-103249912

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Yeah, he might not be an abuser to these two folks, but he's definitely a sexual creep. And not particularly nice to other developers, especially other Obsidian folks like Josh Sawyer and Feargus Urquhart.

Messi keeps fucking that chicken.

 :nothing :umad

Yeah the guy who has a arranged marriage surely isnt a creep
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45668 on: March 27, 2023, 12:02:30 PM »
Quote from: Janny communication
Sexual assault and domestic violence are issues that are simultaneously widespread and yet severely unpunished by the legal system. Most do not report; for those that do, statistically those claims will die by police inaction and rape kit backlogs. For the even fewer that are pursued, most die within the trial phase because maintaining satisfactory evidence of your assault is extremely difficult. This difficulty is compounded if the person who assaulted you holds a power differential over you in anyway: notoriety, financial, etc. Assault isn't simply something that is worth pursuing legally for most people. Is it inevitable that some claims of assault are lies? Yes. Are these statistical noise compared to the reality of assault's widespread abuse? Also yes.

Frankly, staff has become simultaneously unimpressed and disgusted with the gloating, blowback, and metacommentary that happens when people have the audacity to simply believe a woman who claimed she was harmed at face value. We do not live in a society of neutrality and equivalency on this matter, and acting like it only serves to make ResetEra more hostile to women and all victims of sexual assault in general, which is against our principles. We will be actioning this behavior from now on, starting today.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-avellone-is-an-abusive-abrasive-conniving-sexual-predator-up-claims-dismissed-threadmark.231604/page-15#post-103260562

 :crowdlaff
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I wholeheartedly appreciate the new communication.

We don’t console wars accusations of domestic assault.

joeboy101

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45669 on: March 27, 2023, 12:08:26 PM »
Quote from: Janny communication
Sexual assault and domestic violence are issues that are simultaneously widespread and yet severely unpunished by the legal system. Most do not report; for those that do, statistically those claims will die by police inaction and rape kit backlogs. For the even fewer that are pursued, most die within the trial phase because maintaining satisfactory evidence of your assault is extremely difficult. This difficulty is compounded if the person who assaulted you holds a power differential over you in anyway: notoriety, financial, etc. Assault isn't simply something that is worth pursuing legally for most people. Is it inevitable that some claims of assault are lies? Yes. Are these statistical noise compared to the reality of assault's widespread abuse? Also yes.

Frankly, staff has become simultaneously unimpressed and disgusted with the gloating, blowback, and metacommentary that happens when people have the audacity to simply believe a woman who claimed she was harmed at face value. We do not live in a society of neutrality and equivalency on this matter, and acting like it only serves to make ResetEra more hostile to women and all victims of sexual assault in general, which is against our principles. We will be actioning this behavior from now on, starting today.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-avellone-is-an-abusive-abrasive-conniving-sexual-predator-up-claims-dismissed-threadmark.231604/page-15#post-103260562

 :crowdlaff

Also, good to know the staff is disgusted and unimpressed with gloating and blowback behavior when talking about false accusations towards a gaming figure that their board helped pile reputational damage on. No disgust or disappointment towards the rush to judgment, right?

Edit: Annnnd here comes the first ban…

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So the folks who want to wait and reserve judgement get dogpiled and modded for "concern trolling" and "bad faith", and the ones who dogpile and say awful things just keep on rolling when the facts come out? This needs to change

 :hesright

Edit: Annnnd…

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  User Banned (Permanent): Ignoring the staff post in a sensitive thread, previous long history of male fragility and concern trolling on sensitive matters

Right, male fragility on the thread where a prominent gaming figure had false accusations thrown out against him, and a seven figure settlement made.

Oh! There’s fragility here, but not a male’s, nor a poster’s.
« Last Edit: March 27, 2023, 12:33:55 PM by joeboy101 »

Propagandhim

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45670 on: March 27, 2023, 12:12:13 PM »
Never any self-reflection.  Ever.

Boredfrom

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45671 on: March 27, 2023, 12:13:24 PM »
Quote from: LegalEagleMike
This reads as pure clickbait nonsense catered towards the worst part of the fanbase.

Quote from: boontobias
Same jeff sneider who said Brie Larsen is problematic on The Marvels set. Bro is quickly building up his nerd hatecore resume

https://www.resetera.com/threads/rumor-disney-will-fire-kathleen-kennedy-if-she-doesnt-have-a-star-wars-movie-in-theaters-by-christmas-2025.701878/

daily disney shill cope thread

Why the fuck they keep batting for KK when Star Wars is in a worse position than Marvel? They know it and even joked about it but somehow is not Kathleen Kennedy fault that Star Wars is dead.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45672 on: March 27, 2023, 12:15:58 PM »
Quote from: Janny communication
Sexual assault and domestic violence are issues that are simultaneously widespread and yet severely unpunished by the legal system. Most do not report; for those that do, statistically those claims will die by police inaction and rape kit backlogs. For the even fewer that are pursued, most die within the trial phase because maintaining satisfactory evidence of your assault is extremely difficult. This difficulty is compounded if the person who assaulted you holds a power differential over you in anyway: notoriety, financial, etc. Assault isn't simply something that is worth pursuing legally for most people. Is it inevitable that some claims of assault are lies? Yes. Are these statistical noise compared to the reality of assault's widespread abuse? Also yes.

Frankly, staff has become simultaneously unimpressed and disgusted with the gloating, blowback, and metacommentary that happens when people have the audacity to simply believe a woman who claimed she was harmed at face value. We do not live in a society of neutrality and equivalency on this matter, and acting like it only serves to make ResetEra more hostile to women and all victims of sexual assault in general, which is against our principles. We will be actioning this behavior from now on, starting today.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-avellone-is-an-abusive-abrasive-conniving-sexual-predator-up-claims-dismissed-threadmark.231604/page-15#post-103260562

 :crowdlaff

Did the mod team Edit their own post? That drivel is suddenly gone…

joeboy101

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45673 on: March 27, 2023, 12:17:08 PM »
Quote from: Janny communication
Sexual assault and domestic violence are issues that are simultaneously widespread and yet severely unpunished by the legal system. Most do not report; for those that do, statistically those claims will die by police inaction and rape kit backlogs. For the even fewer that are pursued, most die within the trial phase because maintaining satisfactory evidence of your assault is extremely difficult. This difficulty is compounded if the person who assaulted you holds a power differential over you in anyway: notoriety, financial, etc. Assault isn't simply something that is worth pursuing legally for most people. Is it inevitable that some claims of assault are lies? Yes. Are these statistical noise compared to the reality of assault's widespread abuse? Also yes.

Frankly, staff has become simultaneously unimpressed and disgusted with the gloating, blowback, and metacommentary that happens when people have the audacity to simply believe a woman who claimed she was harmed at face value. We do not live in a society of neutrality and equivalency on this matter, and acting like it only serves to make ResetEra more hostile to women and all victims of sexual assault in general, which is against our principles. We will be actioning this behavior from now on, starting today.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-avellone-is-an-abusive-abrasive-conniving-sexual-predator-up-claims-dismissed-threadmark.231604/page-15#post-103260562

 :crowdlaff

Did the mod team Edit their own post? That drivel is suddenly gone…

It’s at the bottom of the thread. Mod Moogle is keeping it low key, because that sounds like another mods/admins diatribe.

Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45674 on: March 27, 2023, 12:22:46 PM »
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Yeah the guy who has a arranged marriage surely isnt a creep.

Hey, be nice. His parents payed good money to buy the woman. Also you can't be a creep if the woman is your property.

Boredfrom

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45675 on: March 27, 2023, 12:23:42 PM »
Quote from: Janny communication
Sexual assault and domestic violence are issues that are simultaneously widespread and yet severely unpunished by the legal system. Most do not report; for those that do, statistically those claims will die by police inaction and rape kit backlogs. For the even fewer that are pursued, most die within the trial phase because maintaining satisfactory evidence of your assault is extremely difficult. This difficulty is compounded if the person who assaulted you holds a power differential over you in anyway: notoriety, financial, etc. Assault isn't simply something that is worth pursuing legally for most people. Is it inevitable that some claims of assault are lies? Yes. Are these statistical noise compared to the reality of assault's widespread abuse? Also yes.

Frankly, staff has become simultaneously unimpressed and disgusted with the gloating, blowback, and metacommentary that happens when people have the audacity to simply believe a woman who claimed she was harmed at face value. We do not live in a society of neutrality and equivalency on this matter, and acting like it only serves to make ResetEra more hostile to women and all victims of sexual assault in general, which is against our principles. We will be actioning this behavior from now on, starting today.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-avellone-is-an-abusive-abrasive-conniving-sexual-predator-up-claims-dismissed-threadmark.231604/page-15#post-103260562

 :crowdlaff

Also, good to know the staff is disgusted and unimpressed with gloating and blowback behavior when talking about false accusations towards a gaming figure that their board helped pile reuptational damage on. No disgust or disappointment towards the rush to judgment, right?

Edit: Annnnd here comes the first ban…

Quote
So the folks who want to wait and reserve judgement get dogpiled and modded for "concern trolling" and "bad faith", and the ones who dogpile and say awful things just keep on rolling when the facts come out? This needs to change

 :hesright

And banned:

Quote
User Banned (Permanent): Ignoring the staff post in a sensitive thread, previous long history of male fragility and concern trolling on sensitive matters

Male fragility and concern trolling.  ::)

This smells like Princess Bubblegum.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45676 on: March 27, 2023, 12:24:19 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/%E2%80%98fallout%E2%80%99-writer-chris-avellone-and-accusers-issue-joint-statement-settle-lawsuit.701788/post-103250464

Thread locked, linking to the other locked thread  :lol

The first line of the article:

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Avellone's accusers, Karissa Barrows and Kelly Bristol, have signed a joint statement retracting their previous claims and clearing Avellone of wrongdoing

First response:

Quote
One would hope the fucker would get blacklisted

 :derp

um excuse me??

https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7dd3d/we-need-to-stop-saying-blacklist-and-whitelist

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Earlier this month, the U.S. government sanctioned the controversial spyware vendor NSO Group, putting it on a list that prevents U.S. companies and individuals from selling services and technologies to the company. When reporting the news, several outlets, including The New York Times, The Guardian, Reuters, and CNN, referred to this action as putting NSO on a “blacklist.”

Blacklist and whitelist are terms commonly used in computer science and cybersecurity to indicate something is allowed, or not allowed. According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, which defines the word as “a list of banned or excluded things of disreputable character,” its first known use dates back to 1624.

It’s time to stop using it.

“As we work to fill open cybersecurity jobs and create a more diverse and inclusive industry that is better able to combat cyber threats, inclusivity, and the intentionality that requires, has to permeate every aspect of the field, including the language. ‘Blacklist’ equates black with bad and white with good,” Camille Stewart, the global head of product security strategy at Google and the co-founder of #ShareTheMicInCyber, an initiative to highlight and raise the voices of diverse people in cybersecurity, told Motherboard in an online chat. “Although not the most important part of the work to be done, the roots in systemic racism and the subtle message it sends about the industry matter.”

The argument that we should stop using blacklist and whitelist has a lot of support from many significant organizations. The developers of Chromium, the open source codebase that underpins Google’s Chrome browser, as well as the competing Microsoft’s Edge, announced in 2019 that “terms such as ‘blacklist’ and ‘whitelist’ reinforce the notion that black==bad and white==good.” That’s why since then its developers are using “blocklist” and “allowlist.”
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45677 on: March 27, 2023, 12:25:43 PM »
I'd love to know what constitutes a large number of reports. I used to be a mod on IGN, which was way bigger than Era, and there'd be maybe a couple dozen 'reports' per day.

Then again most reports were in the 'looking for a mod' thread, which meant everyone could see the snitches.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45678 on: March 27, 2023, 12:25:44 PM »
Time for a fun thread on Resetera, my favourite gaming forum.

"Who's the better brother? Mario or Luigi?"

*20 posts later*

"Thread has been locked while we review a large number of reports. This may take an extended period of time. Should we decide to reopen this thread or give any other updates this post will be edited with the additional information. Thank you for your patience."

I feel quite strongly that this question is wrapped up in themes of traditional (i.e. toxic) masculinity vs. the so-called "beta" male trope, with height-ism sprinkled in to muddy the waters
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45680 on: March 27, 2023, 12:28:34 PM »
Quote from: Janny communication
Sexual assault and domestic violence are issues that are simultaneously widespread and yet severely unpunished by the legal system. Most do not report; for those that do, statistically those claims will die by police inaction and rape kit backlogs. For the even fewer that are pursued, most die within the trial phase because maintaining satisfactory evidence of your assault is extremely difficult. This difficulty is compounded if the person who assaulted you holds a power differential over you in anyway: notoriety, financial, etc. Assault isn't simply something that is worth pursuing legally for most people. Is it inevitable that some claims of assault are lies? Yes. Are these statistical noise compared to the reality of assault's widespread abuse? Also yes.

Frankly, staff has become simultaneously unimpressed and disgusted with the gloating, blowback, and metacommentary that happens when people have the audacity to simply believe a woman who claimed she was harmed at face value. We do not live in a society of neutrality and equivalency on this matter, and acting like it only serves to make ResetEra more hostile to women and all victims of sexual assault in general, which is against our principles. We will be actioning this behavior from now on, starting today.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-avellone-is-an-abusive-abrasive-conniving-sexual-predator-up-claims-dismissed-threadmark.231604/page-15#post-103260562

 :crowdlaff

Also, good to know the staff is disgusted and unimpressed with gloating and blowback behavior when talking about false accusations towards a gaming figure that their board helped pile reuptational damage on. No disgust or disappointment towards the rush to judgment, right?

Edit: Annnnd here comes the first ban…

Quote
So the folks who want to wait and reserve judgement get dogpiled and modded for "concern trolling" and "bad faith", and the ones who dogpile and say awful things just keep on rolling when the facts come out? This needs to change

 :hesright

And banned:

Quote
User Banned (Permanent): Ignoring the staff post in a sensitive thread, previous long history of male fragility and concern trolling on sensitive matters

Male fragility and concern trolling.  ::)

This smells like Princess Bubblegum.

And with that, the thread will come to a dead stop I imagine or crawl as users want to avoid saying anything that a crazy bitch of a mod might find worthy of a permanent ban.

Boredfrom

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45681 on: March 27, 2023, 12:29:33 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/%E2%80%98fallout%E2%80%99-writer-chris-avellone-and-accusers-issue-joint-statement-settle-lawsuit.701788/post-103250464

Thread locked, linking to the other locked thread  :lol

The first line of the article:

Quote
Avellone's accusers, Karissa Barrows and Kelly Bristol, have signed a joint statement retracting their previous claims and clearing Avellone of wrongdoing

First response:

Quote
One would hope the fucker would get blacklisted

 :derp

um excuse me??

https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7dd3d/we-need-to-stop-saying-blacklist-and-whitelist

Quote
Earlier this month, the U.S. government sanctioned the controversial spyware vendor NSO Group, putting it on a list that prevents U.S. companies and individuals from selling services and technologies to the company. When reporting the news, several outlets, including The New York Times, The Guardian, Reuters, and CNN, referred to this action as putting NSO on a “blacklist.”

Blacklist and whitelist are terms commonly used in computer science and cybersecurity to indicate something is allowed, or not allowed. According to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, which defines the word as “a list of banned or excluded things of disreputable character,” its first known use dates back to 1624.

It’s time to stop using it.

“As we work to fill open cybersecurity jobs and create a more diverse and inclusive industry that is better able to combat cyber threats, inclusivity, and the intentionality that requires, has to permeate every aspect of the field, including the language. ‘Blacklist’ equates black with bad and white with good,” Camille Stewart, the global head of product security strategy at Google and the co-founder of #ShareTheMicInCyber, an initiative to highlight and raise the voices of diverse people in cybersecurity, told Motherboard in an online chat. “Although not the most important part of the work to be done, the roots in systemic racism and the subtle message it sends about the industry matter.”

The argument that we should stop using blacklist and whitelist has a lot of support from many significant organizations. The developers of Chromium, the open source codebase that underpins Google’s Chrome browser, as well as the competing Microsoft’s Edge, announced in 2019 that “terms such as ‘blacklist’ and ‘whitelist’ reinforce the notion that black==bad and white==good.” That’s why since then its developers are using “blocklist” and “allowlist.”

Protome is such a weasel:

“Twitter lawyers say this doesn’t prove either way that they were lying… even if this agreement says that they need to admit they were “misinterpreted” and pay a 7 figure.”

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45682 on: March 27, 2023, 12:33:56 PM »
In the trump getting arrested soon thread

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Cool so…nothing happened…again…again.

Stay tuned for more! This week, guys. This is the week! Seriously, I’m just so tired. What is the holdup?

User warned: Antagonizing people, lets not do another thread derail/lock



https://www.resetera.com/threads/fox-news-possible-indictment-and-arrest-of-trump-by-manhattan-da-happening-some-time-next-week.698416/page-38#post-103256110

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45683 on: March 27, 2023, 12:41:00 PM »
In the trump getting arrested soon thread

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Cool so…nothing happened…again…again.

Stay tuned for more! This week, guys. This is the week! Seriously, I’m just so tired. What is the holdup?

User warned: Antagonizing people, lets not do another thread derail/lock



https://www.resetera.com/threads/fox-news-possible-indictment-and-arrest-of-trump-by-manhattan-da-happening-some-time-next-week.698416/page-38#post-103256110

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It’s Monday morning.

Strong “Cerium will answer all your burning questions after he wakes up from his nap” vibes :teehee
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45684 on: March 27, 2023, 12:47:23 PM »
Quote from: Janny communication
Sexual assault and domestic violence are issues that are simultaneously widespread and yet severely unpunished by the legal system. Most do not report; for those that do, statistically those claims will die by police inaction and rape kit backlogs. For the even fewer that are pursued, most die within the trial phase because maintaining satisfactory evidence of your assault is extremely difficult. This difficulty is compounded if the person who assaulted you holds a power differential over you in anyway: notoriety, financial, etc. Assault isn't simply something that is worth pursuing legally for most people. Is it inevitable that some claims of assault are lies? Yes. Are these statistical noise compared to the reality of assault's widespread abuse? Also yes.

Frankly, staff has become simultaneously unimpressed and disgusted with the gloating, blowback, and metacommentary that happens when people have the audacity to simply believe a woman who claimed she was harmed at face value. We do not live in a society of neutrality and equivalency on this matter, and acting like it only serves to make ResetEra more hostile to women and all victims of sexual assault in general, which is against our principles. We will be actioning this behavior from now on, starting today.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-avellone-is-an-abusive-abrasive-conniving-sexual-predator-up-claims-dismissed-threadmark.231604/page-15#post-103260562

 :crowdlaff

A guy had his reputation dragged through the mud and lost his job and the people who made these accusations now admit that they made it all up.

RE: "No lessons to be learned here. In fact, it's offensive to suggest there's anything to be learned here."

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45685 on: March 27, 2023, 01:01:12 PM »
That is the same "logic" they used when people, rightfully, chided moderation and the userbase for dogpiling anyone who didn't believe Jussie. Apparently believing every instance of abuse no matter how illogical or obviously fabricated makes you a good person.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45686 on: March 27, 2023, 01:17:35 PM »
In the trump getting arrested soon thread

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Cool so…nothing happened…again…again.

Stay tuned for more! This week, guys. This is the week! Seriously, I’m just so tired. What is the holdup?

User warned: Antagonizing people, lets not do another thread derail/lock



https://www.resetera.com/threads/fox-news-possible-indictment-and-arrest-of-trump-by-manhattan-da-happening-some-time-next-week.698416/page-38#post-103256110

How the hell is that antagonizing? :lol

Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45687 on: March 27, 2023, 01:33:02 PM »
I'd love to know what constitutes a large number of reports. I used to be a mod on IGN, which was way bigger than Era, and there'd be maybe a couple dozen 'reports' per day.

Then again most reports were in the 'looking for a mod' thread, which meant everyone could see the snitches.

In weird timing, Constructive feedback thread today gives partial insight to their normal open volume:
Quote from: EZMode
What does the report feature look like (on your end) is it like a forum page that holds the same amount of reports per page like a regular thread?

If so how many pages worth of reports are there.  Does it ever feel like you’ll never see the light at the end of the tunnel when working them.   I guess in video game terms is there a backlog?
Quote from: FliX
It's not like a singular thread, more like a forum with one thread per report, but once reports are handled they leave that list. So the list has a definite end, and we can see a number at the top of the forum as to how many reports are open at any given time. That number stalks us no matter where we are on the forum, taunting us that there is some moderation to be done... 😛
That said, yes there is usually a backlog, sometimes longer than others times.... 🙃

For reference, right now there are 18 gaming reports and 13 etc reports that have not been closed yet. I'd say that is on the upper side normal for a regular day. That number can go much higher if there is a shit show of a controversial thread ongoing.

Not exactly a measure of incoming volume, but ~30 reports at the upper side of normal. It'd be interesting to know how many reports a single thread needs to generate to be excessive, then, since it seems like one post getting reported 10 times would be excessive for the normal open volume.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45688 on: March 27, 2023, 01:44:26 PM »
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Do you ever have to tell people to chill out if they report dozens of posts/people a day/week/month?

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Yes*. We've also unfortunately had to issue bans when the reports are totally nonsense and they don't stop.

*Except for the Kyuuji mob :kermit
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45689 on: March 27, 2023, 01:59:58 PM »
That is the same "logic" they used when people, rightfully, chided moderation and the userbase for dogpiling anyone who didn't believe Jussie. Apparently believing every instance of abuse no matter how illogical or obviously fabricated makes you a good person.

Jussie was hilarious because of how nonsense his story was yet people would say "statistically it's very rare to make a false report."  That's like me saying, My aunt died in a plane crash in the 80's and being scolded with, "statistically plane crashes are very rare so I doubt that happened."

And remember Royal tubbie McGoo freaking out that Jussie was going to be enslaved, hunted, and possibly murdered in a county jail?
sigh

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45690 on: March 27, 2023, 02:11:53 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-avellone-is-an-abusive-abrasive-conniving-sexual-predator-up-claims-dismissed-threadmark.231604/page-10#post-103172686
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So maybe we shouldn’t assume guilt right off the bat?
You ask too much of Era


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[quote4 author=CloudCircus]So maybe we shouldn’t assume guilt right off the bat?
I automatically ignore threads like that. I am just not comfortable with the assumptions of guilt every time


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This basically. But I cheered for Johnny nonetheless because this guy fucking deserved every tiny bit of his win in court. And I’d do it again no matter what someone tells me lol.

I loathe every comment that says "But- But be careful! Be not mistaken! In the next case, the dude has to be guilty ASAP again! It’s for the women!!"

Like c’mon

Why not a neutral stance no matter what. Era literally went face first on concrete so often already.


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So maybe we shouldn’t assume guilt right off the bat?
Good luck getting Era to ever figure this out.


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Sad situation.

But it is annoying how righteous the OP was in updating this thread any time any of the accusers spoke against him. Yet when the scales tilt into Avellone's side the OP is nowhere to be seen. Seems someone is much more interested in tearing people down than they are spreading the truth.
Along with the OP is the number of users in the earlier pages who were extremely caustic towards the accused that are now nowhere to be found once the update has hit. They've had their fun, the spectacle and circus of tarring and feathering a man and mocking him has passed. But now that it's all been proven a farce they've disappeared, ready to move on to the next dog and pony show to screech and cry over. And why not? There's no punishment or reprimand for their actions.

Major Helena Taylor vs Platinum Games vibes.


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Well said. It’s all about getting those Era virtue bucks.


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Well said and a sad phenomenon.


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Very well said. It happens far too often.


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Reading the first 9 pages and then the threadmark..
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The overwhelming majority of bans in this thread were to people either implying that the accusers were liars or downplaying assault in general.
Isn't that exactly what happened?

Quote from: Neilg
His actions are indefensible, but he's definitely an alcoholic rather than a predator.
End result is the same for the people on the receiving end, I know that.
Neilg got banned for this on the second page. Reason: Downplaying predatory behaviour.
We can argue the taste of that comment either way, but predatory behaviour and sexual assault can't be downplayed if they didn't happen in the first place

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I hope the women involved have gotten the help they need from counseling. Hurts my soul that this still happens. Has this been taken to the police yet though? Forgive me if it has already but I feel like this 'trial by media' isn't the best way to go about these things any more. If even one innocent person gets caught in the crossfire that's one person too much.
Quote from: Iron Eddie
I understand people are scared but this stuff needs to be reported right away, not years later.
We also have these two quotes from banned people. Of course the ban could have happened years later (this is an old thread afterall, and the profiles are not visible). Not always do mods comment on the ban. We can only speculate.

People were trigger happy back then and quick to jump to conclusions. Since mods are also only people, it's fair to assume there were some - in hindsight I guess - unfair bans.


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Wow, a bunch of dogpiling and ill-wishes for nothing. Almost a sense of glee at the opportunity to be outraged. Sadly, this has happened several times on ResetEra. Maybe people will learn from this...?


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Sad situation....
This is how all these threads always play out here. Immediate calls for boycotts, banning of any member that says they'll wait for more information, and ultimately silence by the most vocal when new information comes out showing otherwise. I think there was one poster in the Helena Taylor thread that came out and admitted they were wrong, out of the some 300 members calling for Kayima's head and removal from PG.
« Last Edit: March 27, 2023, 04:25:58 PM by Hap Shaughnessy »
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Nintex

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45691 on: March 27, 2023, 02:23:36 PM »
lmao lying bitches got what they deserved.  :lol

For the perfect ending we need a judge to force Michael Cohen to write an apology to Donald John Trump  :mynicca
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45692 on: March 27, 2023, 02:25:55 PM »
"misrepresenting moderation" is codeword for "called us out so accurately we had no choice but to ban"

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45693 on: March 27, 2023, 02:33:28 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-avellone-is-an-abusive-abrasive-conniving-sexual-predator-up-claims-dismissed-threadmark.231604/page-10#post-103172686
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So maybe we shouldn’t assume guilt right off the bat?
You ask too much of Era


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[quote4 author=CloudCircus]So maybe we shouldn’t assume guilt right off the bat?
I automatically ignore threads like that. I am just not comfortable with the assumptions of guilt every time


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This basically. But I cheered for Johnny nonetheless because this guy fucking deserved every tiny bit of his win in court. And I’d do it again no matter what someone tells me lol.

I loathe every comment that says "But- But be careful! Be not mistaken! In the next case, the dude has to be guilty ASAP again! It’s for the women!!"

Like c’mon

Why not a neutral stance no matter what. Era literally went face first on concrete so often already.


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So maybe we shouldn’t assume guilt right off the bat?
Good luck getting Era to ever figure this out.


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:cop User Banned (1 Month): Metacommentary, concern trolling and antagonising community in a sensitive topic.
Quote from: Hellstruck
Sad situation.

But it is annoying how righteous the OP was in updating this thread any time any of the accusers spoke against him. Yet when the scales tilt into Avellone's side the OP is nowhere to be seen. Seems someone is much more interested in tearing people down than they are spreading the truth.
Along with the OP is the number of users in the earlier pages who were extremely caustic towards the accused that are now nowhere to be found once the update has hit. They've had their fun, the spectacle and circus of tarring and feathering a man and mocking him has passed. But now that it's all been proven a farce they've disappeared, ready to move on to the next dog and pony show to screech and cry over. And why not? There's no punishment or reprimand for their actions.

Major Helena Taylor vs Platinum Games vibes.


https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-avellone-is-an-abusive-abrasive-conniving-sexual-predator-up-claims-dismissed-threadmark.231604/page-13#post-103188616
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Well said. It’s all about getting those Era virtue bucks.


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Well said and a sad phenomenon.


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Very well said. It happens far too often.


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The overwhelming majority of bans in this thread were to people either implying that the accusers were liars or downplaying assault in general.
Isn't that exactly what happened?

Quote from: Neilg
His actions are indefensible, but he's definitely an alcoholic rather than a predator.
End result is the same for the people on the receiving end, I know that.
Neilg got banned for this on the second page. Reason: Downplaying predatory behaviour.
We can argue the taste of that comment either way, but predatory behaviour and sexual assault can't be downplayed if they didn't happen in the first place

Quote from: Pewshi
I hope the women involved have gotten the help they need from counseling. Hurts my soul that this still happens. Has this been taken to the police yet though? Forgive me if it has already but I feel like this 'trial by media' isn't the best way to go about these things any more. If even one innocent person gets caught in the crossfire that's one person too much.
Quote from: Iron Eddie
I understand people are scared but this stuff needs to be reported right away, not years later.
We also have these two quotes from banned people. Of course the ban could have happened years later (this is an old thread afterall, and the profiles are not visible). Not always do mods comment on the ban. We can only speculate.

People were trigger happy back then and quick to jump to conclusions. Since mods are also only people, it's fair to assume there were some - in hindsight I guess - unfair bans.


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Quote from: Hellstruck
Sad situation....
This is how all these threads always play out here. Immediate calls for boycotts, banning of any member that says they'll wait for more information, and ultimately silence by the most vocal when new information comes out showing otherwise. I think there was one poster in the Helena Taylor thread that came out and admitted they were wrong, out of the some 300 members calling for Kayima's head and removal from PG.

Eurasia has always been at war with Oceania. Mods are never wrong. False accusations never happen at all, and when they do, they are statistical noise.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45694 on: March 27, 2023, 02:41:15 PM »
psa to all the unprotected members of resetera: do not try to report any of the protected members for "metacommentary", no matter how blatant it is when they complain about you in places such as the "all women are whores and should wear burkas" thread.

It won't end well for you.  :)

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45695 on: March 27, 2023, 02:46:45 PM »
In other news…

https://www.resetera.com/threads/tmz-jonathan-majors-kang-arrested-in-nyc-for-assaulting-woman-up-attorney-asserts-innocence-expects-video-proof-victim-recanting.701302/post-103216822

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Miller's arrest came after his 200 million dollar movie was shot, WB is only keeping him around because it'll cost them half a billion to drop him it's really not the same and really veering off topic.

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Mods are in a real mood today. Salty over the weekend I’d wager.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45696 on: March 27, 2023, 02:47:15 PM »
An utter cowardly and disgusting display from the team of Janitors over there.

Tbh why even allow those threads if anything other than 'believe women' gets you banned? Even when evidence comes out that points the other way.

Most of Ree's base cannot discuss topics like this without giving into their baser tendencies of snitching and dog piling. Always on the hunt for the fabled 'chuds' hiding among them.

Of course the mods don't want any discussion that goes against their reality so they scare people into silence with the threat of bans. I see bans for "meta commentary" aka pointing out how shitty the mods are.

Even Gaf at its worse was never this gutless.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45697 on: March 27, 2023, 02:50:23 PM »
That dude Gerakion is still peddling bullshit like he is a professional lawyer or journo.

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The surrounding text does not make it clear. Unfortunately this is a legal document carefully combed over by 2 (or 3) sets of lawyers, and here textualism is what matters. Implications, unlike normal communications, don't. The agreement publication statement says (exactly) "a confidential settlement that provides for a seven-figure payment". And that choice to be vague is meaningful.

The six figures attorney's fee from California being returned to him also means exactly that and no more... it will be returned to him as part of the 7 figure payment if said payment happens. That is not inconsistent with the payment being in either direction. In the case where Avellone is actually paying his accusers, it would function like a credit and lessens the amount he would be paying. We also do not know that Avellone had already paid the attorney's fee, it was asked of him in late summer of last year but losing parties can drag their feet in actually paying (and collection for the prevailing party can be difficult).

As another guy mentioned, these agreements are confidential aside from what is given in a public statement. Forbes' Ethan Kain gives a quote from an email with Avellone's attorneys that says the payment is to Avellone. And if so, that is divulging more information than the settlement agreement statement itself gives. Which is a huge no no for an attorney and could blow up the terms of said agreement. When this was pointed out to Kain on twitter, he doubled down, did not provide his specific source nor a screenshot, and blocked those that called upon him to clarify. Avellone's law firm has been separately contacted, but they have not responded as of yet (and may not ever, this is confidential after all).

I start with a baseline that journalists are honest/competent and that lawyers do not commit ethical violations. This situation requires one of those two to be false. For now, until Kain releases more information on his source I will ignore it.

Again, moving the goal posts from “Avellone was the one paying it” to “Kain is a lying asshole”.

Is kind of scummy how they are going after Ethan Karin because he dared to publish the news at Forbes (so giving it “validity”).

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45698 on: March 27, 2023, 03:06:25 PM »
Now they don’t want trump being arrested so that the news stays focused on a school shooting.

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I hope they dont announce this today now with TN shooting, I want all eyes to be on that news instead.

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Im with you, TN should be getting the news. It's freaking horrible.

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Yeah, they should hold fire until that's out of the news cycle. If they do it, Republicans and right wing news sources will just use the shooting to drown it out.

If trump continues to not be arrested, how long till they start calling the shootings false flags to prevent trump from going to jail?

https://www.resetera.com/threads/fox-news-possible-indictment-and-arrest-of-trump-by-manhattan-da-happening-some-time-next-week.698416/page-38#post-103266661

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45699 on: March 27, 2023, 03:11:45 PM »
There's a massive plot twist though

https://twitter.com/transscribe/status/1640409630596579343

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NASHVILLE SCHOOL SHOOTING
- Private Christian school
- Preschool through 6th grade
- Woman opened fire on 2nd floor
- Armed with 2 rifles and pistol
- 7 confirmed dead in total
- 3 kids, 3 adults, 1 suspect
- Suspect believed to be teenager
- Motive unknown
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45700 on: March 27, 2023, 03:16:07 PM »
Yeah, Birdie immediately went to the defensive even if there is little validity to these claim right now.

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The discussion on this is bound to be pretty fucked up I imagine. I mean it's always fucked up but I'm expecting some horrible misogyny, and probably some token transphobia.

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Hmm. Do we even know she's trans? I haven't heard anything, but it also seems early.

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No but I'm betting some conservatives are going to push that forward (and I feel bad for making you think that)




Nintex

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45701 on: March 27, 2023, 03:21:09 PM »
Some killer stand-up comedy from uncle Joe tho

https://twitter.com/alx/status/1640427165081583623
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45702 on: March 27, 2023, 03:22:57 PM »
An utter cowardly and disgusting display from the team of Janitors over there.

Tbh why even allow those threads if anything other than 'believe women' gets you banned? Even when evidence comes out that points the other way.

Most of Ree's base cannot discuss topics like this without giving into their baser tendencies of snitching and dog piling. Always on the hunt for the fabled 'chuds' hiding among them.

Of course the mods don't want any discussion that goes against their reality so they scare people into silence with the threat of bans. I see bans for "meta commentary" aka pointing out how shitty the mods are.

Even Gaf at its worse was never this gutless.

And then B-Dubs will, without a hint of irony or shame, bitch and complain why ERA is so toxic nowadays in some future post. Like that other user--who they predictably banned--said, the mods fostered this toxic culture on the site, refuse to take responsibility for it, does nothing to correct it, and actually make things worse, with this latest diatribe as the latest example. Before GAF's implosion, Evilore used to do this all the time. He'd bitch about why GAF was toxic but did nothing to change things despite being the literal owner. Eventually, shit blew up in his face. B-dubs is going down the same track Evilore did.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45703 on: March 27, 2023, 03:29:40 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/kanye-west-has-a-change-of-heart-thanks-to-jonah-hill.701101/page-3#post-103170328

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:cop User Banned (2 Weeks): Dismissing Concerns of Antisemitism and Bigotry; Excusing Such Behaviour with Mental Health Concerns
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What the actual fuck is wrong with this man?

Just shut up.

Just shut the fuck up.
Uhhhhh he has a severe mental health disorder

Acting out and believing non reality based ideas is absolutely a side effect of poor mental health. Crazy people say, do, and believe crazy things. Era can be incredibly ableist when it comes to mental health.
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Propagandhim

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45704 on: March 27, 2023, 03:34:26 PM »
Anyone that saw that Alex Jones interview where Kanye uses props to create a Netanyahu effigy, and proceeds to ventriloquise with it, and still thinks this man is in control of his rational faculties, is probably crazy themselves. 
« Last Edit: March 27, 2023, 03:38:54 PM by Propagandhim »

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45705 on: March 27, 2023, 03:38:04 PM »
There's a massive plot twist though

https://twitter.com/transscribe/status/1640409630596579343

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NASHVILLE SCHOOL SHOOTING
- Private Christian school
- Preschool through 6th grade
- Woman opened fire on 2nd floor
- Armed with 2 rifles and pistol
- 7 confirmed dead in total
- 3 kids, 3 adults, 1 suspect
- Suspect believed to be teenager
- Motive unknown

"No one has said the shooter is trans, but I bet you they try to say it!"

"Aren't you the one who is fuelling the rumours by saying this?"

"See! See! This is exactly what I'm talking about. Transphobes are everywhere now on Elongated Muskrat's Twatter!"
Spud

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45706 on: March 27, 2023, 03:41:08 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/kanye-west-has-a-change-of-heart-thanks-to-jonah-hill.701101/page-3#post-103170328

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:cop User Banned (2 Weeks): Dismissing Concerns of Antisemitism and Bigotry; Excusing Such Behaviour with Mental Health Concerns
Quote from: KrAzEd
Quote from: ZeoVGM
What the actual fuck is wrong with this man?

Just shut up.

Just shut the fuck up.
Uhhhhh he has a severe mental health disorder

Acting out and believing non reality based ideas is absolutely a side effect of poor mental health. Crazy people say, do, and believe crazy things. Era can be incredibly ableist when it comes to mental health.

It's pretty weird. As if they've never seen an obvious crazy person talking about crazy conspiracy theories. No one thinks that schizophrenia makes you inherently believe that government agents are tracking you, but it makes you a lot more susceptible to it. It's absurd to assume that paranoia can only express itself in one way

Boredfrom

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45707 on: March 27, 2023, 03:43:13 PM »
Also, Chris Chan is bail out from jail.   :thinking

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45708 on: March 27, 2023, 03:47:38 PM »
There's a massive plot twist though

https://twitter.com/transscribe/status/1640409630596579343

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NASHVILLE SCHOOL SHOOTING
- Private Christian school
- Preschool through 6th grade
- Woman opened fire on 2nd floor
- Armed with 2 rifles and pistol
- 7 confirmed dead in total
- 3 kids, 3 adults, 1 suspect
- Suspect believed to be teenager
- Motive unknown

"No one has said the shooter is trans, but I bet you they try to say it!"

"Aren't you the one who is fuelling the rumours by saying this?"

"See! See! This is exactly what I'm talking about. Transphobes are everywhere now on Elongated Muskrat's Twatter!"

These people are eternal narcissists. Everything has to revolve around them. Even school shootings, apparently.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45709 on: March 27, 2023, 03:49:13 PM »
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See this what feels kinda gas lighting....."We are consuming the culture, how dare we give it some thought!". I can't be crazy right? Like I love asian dramas, but I understand through context why the couple can't tell the chaebol "Fuck you, we are getting married".

Just depressing that your people, their art is so despoable folks don't even look at the wrapper.
:wut

Quote from: Janny communication
Sexual assault and domestic violence are issues that are simultaneously widespread and yet severely unpunished by the legal system. Most do not report; for those that do, statistically those claims will die by police inaction and rape kit backlogs. For the even fewer that are pursued, most die within the trial phase because maintaining satisfactory evidence of your assault is extremely difficult. This difficulty is compounded if the person who assaulted you holds a power differential over you in anyway: notoriety, financial, etc. Assault isn't simply something that is worth pursuing legally for most people.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/chris-avellone-is-an-abusive-abrasive-conniving-sexual-predator-up-claims-dismissed-threadmark.231604/page-15#post-103260562
:wut

I like how their entire theory is that there's billions of these assaults constantly (especially at every game developer) that nobody even bothers to report, let alone pursue at any level, so we should instantly believe any of the few accusations that are made publicly even though all of these reasons would apply to those instances too.

That dude Gerakion is still peddling bullshit like he is a professional lawyer or journo.

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That is not inconsistent with the payment being in either direction. In the case where Avellone is actually paying his accusers, it would function like a credit and lessens the amount he would be paying. We also do not know that Avellone had already paid the attorney's fee, it was asked of him in late summer of last year but losing parties can drag their feet in actually paying (and collection for the prevailing party can be difficult).

As another guy mentioned, these agreements are confidential aside from what is given in a public statement. Forbes' Ethan Kain gives a quote from an email with Avellone's attorneys that says the payment is to Avellone. And if so, that is divulging more information than the settlement agreement statement itself gives. Which is a huge no no for an attorney and could blow up the terms of said agreement.
Or we could just reject the idea that Chris Avellone sued people for defamation so he could pay them millions for damaging his career with accusations they have withdrawn because while it is certainly possible it is not at all plausible.

Boredfrom

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45710 on: March 27, 2023, 03:58:44 PM »
Gerakion is a troll or an asshole.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45711 on: March 27, 2023, 04:00:54 PM »
That dude Gerakion is still peddling bullshit like he is a professional lawyer or journo.

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That is not inconsistent with the payment being in either direction. In the case where Avellone is actually paying his accusers, it would function like a credit and lessens the amount he would be paying. We also do not know that Avellone had already paid the attorney's fee, it was asked of him in late summer of last year but losing parties can drag their feet in actually paying (and collection for the prevailing party can be difficult).

As another guy mentioned, these agreements are confidential aside from what is given in a public statement. Forbes' Ethan Kain gives a quote from an email with Avellone's attorneys that says the payment is to Avellone. And if so, that is divulging more information than the settlement agreement statement itself gives. Which is a huge no no for an attorney and could blow up the terms of said agreement.
Or we could just reject the idea that Chris Avellone sued people for defamation so he could pay them millions for damaging his career with accusations they have withdrawn because while it is certainly possible it is not at all plausible.
If there is even a one percent chance that Chris Avellone is paying his accusers we have to take it as an absolute certainty... and we have to destroy him. :bolo

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45712 on: March 27, 2023, 04:01:44 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/tv-meteorologist-and-news-anchor-removed-after-quoting-snoop-dogg-live-on-air.701728/page-8#post-103270342

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wasn't her first time, but go on excusing casual racism like it's nothing. seems to be the whole point of this thread now lol
FOH with your character assassination attempt.

Her saying something offensive in the past doesnt change the facts we have at hand.....which is nothing. We dont know why she said it and neither do you.
Her using an insensitive phrase earlier doesnt automatically tell you what lead to her saying that very popular snoop phrase this time. You do not know why she said it or what her motivations are...period..... Intent still matters in this world goddammit and this from what has been presented doesnt look like some smoking gun.

Mods are in a real mood today. Salty over the weekend I’d wager.
:hesright
 
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45713 on: March 27, 2023, 04:05:30 PM »
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If you think I did not read your postings, yet answering as I did, then you would be well advised to assume major disrespect and not engage in this conversation with me. I would hope I have not given you a reason to assume I have not read your postings before responding to them.

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Well I am new here, I give charity and assume people are reading the things they respond to. On the other hand, your replies indicate otherwise. It is a quandary. I would hope I don't have to use the "ignore" feature so soon!


benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45714 on: March 27, 2023, 04:16:49 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/tv-meteorologist-and-news-anchor-removed-after-quoting-snoop-dogg-live-on-air.701728/page-8#post-103270342

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wasn't her first time, but go on excusing casual racism like it's nothing. seems to be the whole point of this thread now lol
FOH with your character assassination attempt.

Her saying something offensive in the past doesnt change the facts we have at hand.....which is nothing. We dont know why she said it and neither do you.
Her using an insensitive phrase earlier doesnt automatically tell you what lead to her saying that very popular snoop phrase this time. You do not know why she said it or what her motivations are...period..... Intent still matters in this world goddammit and this from what has been presented doesnt look like some smoking gun.

Mods are in a real mood today. Salty over the weekend I’d wager.
:hesright
They seriously think this woman did this deliberately to somehow harm Black bodies watching one local news station (that claims 14% viewership share on their website) in central Mississippi rather than making a reference she didn't really know the meaning of and certainly wasn't keeping in mind when she said it?

Skullfuckers Anonymous

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45715 on: March 27, 2023, 04:18:34 PM »
Gerakion is a troll or an asshole.

It’s a pretty obvious alt account, mods don’t care since he’s on their side.

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45716 on: March 27, 2023, 04:32:51 PM »
There's a massive plot twist though

https://twitter.com/transscribe/status/1640409630596579343

Quote
NASHVILLE SCHOOL SHOOTING
- Private Christian school
- Preschool through 6th grade
- Woman opened fire on 2nd floor
- Armed with 2 rifles and pistol
- 7 confirmed dead in total
- 3 kids, 3 adults, 1 suspect
- Suspect believed to be teenager
- Motive unknown

"No one has said the shooter is trans, but I bet you they try to say it!"

"Aren't you the one who is fuelling the rumours by saying this?"

"See! See! This is exactly what I'm talking about. Transphobes are everywhere now on Elongated Muskrat's Twatter!"

These people are eternal narcissists. Everything has to revolve around them. Even school shootings, apparently.
:hesright


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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45717 on: March 27, 2023, 04:40:33 PM »
https://www.resetera.com/threads/fox-news-possible-indictment-and-arrest-of-trump-by-manhattan-da-happening-some-time-next-week.698416/page-39#post-103274761

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Acknowledging that criminal cases involving a former president and current presidential candidate with basically unlimited monetary resources to delay discovery and a trial may take time is not the same as being a sensationalist "WE GOT HIM!" type person every time a random twitter profile tweets something cryptic. You can exist in a realistic reality without being high on "hopeium".
Well according to @JimComeyTruther the indictment will shake the very core of all we know in this country, resulting in mass gulags for all republicans. So it will all be worth the wait.
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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45718 on: March 27, 2023, 04:46:24 PM »
Quote from: millsaps05
Acknowledging that criminal cases involving a former president and current presidential candidate with basically unlimited monetary resources to delay discovery and a trial may take time is not the same as being a sensationalist "WE GOT HIM!" type person every time a random twitter profile tweets something cryptic. You can exist in a realistic reality without being high on "hopeium".
Is realistic reality the one where the government relies on "discovery" and "trial" before it indicts?

benjipwns

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Re: Other Forums Containment Thread
« Reply #45719 on: March 27, 2023, 04:53:00 PM »
Fun thread, totally the "realistic reality" community:
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People should calm down and let prosecutors dot their i’s and cross their t’s.

I cant understand why people can't grasp that.
Even for normal people, the legal system takes FOREVER...


You're adding a LOT of wrinkles and new areas of the law that have never been explored in our country.
Quote from: Tackleberry
It took TWO YEARS for them to bring charges up for Watergate.. and that was a pretty open and shut case (by legal standards)

What we are witnessing is of a magnitude that we just cannot realistically grasp. Crime and corruption across ALL levels of government, and going right to the very top.

We ARE getting there. If you observe how mobs are handled, it's the same idea. You start at the bottom and work up... and they are pretty damn far up now.
Quote from: Tackleberry
Former head of the National Enquirer. That means there almost for sure are going to be conspiracy charges well beyond the Stormy payment, which the MSM continues to ignore because they adopted Donald's bullshit "Stormy Stormy Stormy!" nonsense he feeds to the masses.

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Lib grift is so bad, pathetic and cringe. At least con grift is entertaining.

Retweet if you want Trump behind bars.
Maybe, but I’d argue that con grift is much more dangerous to society at large. People taken in my lib grifters just kind of stomp their feet and get disappointed. Overall the other side doubles and triples down while helping destroy lives.

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Correct, and for everyone saying, "Its been 6 years!", no it hasn't. Yes, in calendar time it has been but you have to consider that given the way the DOJ operated under Trump (especially once Bill Barr joined) that Biden's inauguration was basically day 0 for a lot of these cases.

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Wait… in all seriousness? Does anyone talking about Mueller She Wrote actually listen to their podcast? The Daily Beans is just a news podcast that covers the news every day, and they interview candidates in towns across the country in attempts to flip them blue. She also has a weekly podcast called “Jack” with Andrew McCabe that reports on the special counsel case similarly to the Meueller investigation.

They are nowhere near those krassenstein people. I listen every day when time permits and she knows her shit.
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