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[Greatness Gone]

it’s crazy how ree mods make the old GAF mods look competent 

[DJ Bedroom]

How many games still use SpeedTree?

[nobody of note]

They did clarify the AI rule to say some AI is okay as long as it's human-controlled and not replacing humans or something:

A clarification has been added to the AI content soft ban. Specifically:

OFFICIAL STAFF COMMUNICATION
The thread creation rules currently do not apply to AI's application in fields like medicine, agriculture, and data analysis. They also do not apply to threads about works that are overwhelmingly created by humans but nonetheless use some sort of machine-learning within a minor workflow process, such as to generate minor environmental assets for a video game, as these are workflow methods still meant to be helmed by a person. However, you are still obligated to conduct yourself accordingly, and a thread will be closed and redirected if it is derailed to discuss the concerns and ethics of AI content generation.

In short, games and movies that are overwhelmingly still created by humans but use a minor example of machine-learning for part of the process will likely be allowed. An example would be Frozen 2 using machine-learning instead of a human to generate the mysterious voice heard throughout the film. Any valid discussions about Frozen 2 will be allowed in the future, so long as of course the thread does not devolve into an overall relitigation of the ethics regarding AI content. These are case-by-case. Again, if you need clarification, ask a staff member. Thank you.

So all you have to do is limit your discussions to games the staff don't think have too much machine learning in them (aren't... most creative applications of AI still overseen and edited by humans.) This is sure to be consistently applied.

[benjipwns]

Wow, apparently that BAC measuring device the staff has can measure "created by humans" content levels too! (Mises is turning in his grave again btw.)

[Boredfrom]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-should-be-the-blueprint-opinion-piece.710324/

I think part of it comes down to Nintendo being "indie-at-heart". Technically. :p

People forget how ruthless Nintendo was during the NES and SNES eras.

[benjipwns]

Nothing says "indie-at-heart" like using your 90+% market share to limit how many games a year licenses can release, forbid them from working with your competitors and threatening retailers!

[benjipwns]

Some forum members are upset about Nintendo cracking down on piracy, they should see when the indie-at-heart team tried to eliminate rentals forever! (See in the old days there were these various buildings where you could go and temporarily take games home from and then return for someone else to do so. Games came on these plastic objects you had to physically transport around. Another example of the cishet white male imposing scarcity.)

[Potato]

I don't even get how they can logically ban ai when what's being developed now is just an extension of something that's been a part of everyone's lives for ages

it's not even intelligence in the way that's been traditionally imagined, it's just a bunch of data relationships attempting to provide output for a given input

countless computer programs include tools that do their best to figure out what the user wants...they don't all use diffusion as a concept, but plenty of them are just as "magic," one click that saves you hours of time

the other day I was looking into video editing and learned how to automatically blur a corporate logo with DaVinci Resolve, it's crazy, you just highlight what you want gone in the first frame and it calculates how the logo moves in subsequent frames and seamlessly keeps it obscured

is talking about that allowed at era? it's pretty fucking smart and saves me from awkwardly blurring it out frame by frame

what about photoshop's content-aware fill that erases things from photos for you? hell what about denoise and despeckle tools that have been around for decades to help restore old photos? where do you draw the line between "this is perfectly fine" and "this is too helpful for humans, it removes their agency and destroys jobs  "

I said this earlier in the thread, but what about all those 3D graphics programs that Pixar and Disney's slave VFX contractors use that auto generate background scenery and all those nameless and faceless armies that always fight in their favourite Space Nazi films?

They realise that's an AI function right?

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-should-be-the-blueprint-opinion-piece.710324/

I think part of it comes down to Nintendo being "indie-at-heart". Technically. :p

People forget how ruthless Nintendo was during the NES and SNES eras.

No one who actually experienced gaming in the NES and SNES era forgets. That shit is burned into our brains and our wallets.

[Daffy Duck]

Speaking of Nintendo…

Wild how murders and rapists, especially when white and/or cops, get almost no punishment but someone tinkering with a device and “threatening capital” gets fucked for life like this.

Almost as if our “justice” system is here not for us but for corporations.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-hacker-released-early-from-prison-due-to-good-behaviour-has-agreed-to-pay-10m-in-damages-maximum-of-25-30-of-his-monthly-gross-income.709925/

Lol

[benjipwns]

Who are all these non-state convicted white murderers and rapists getting almost no punishment? (ACAB progressives for abandoning rehabilitation checking in yet again apparently.)

What would across-the-board punishing convicted white criminals more do to alter the system to the disadvantage of corporations and capital (which depends on the stability and non-arbitrariness of the means not the whimsical ends of a system)?

By the way, this is Gary Bowser:

[PogiJones]

It can't be said often enough.

How are they so bad at this? 

This is what you get when you value "representation" over merit.

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"Merit" in this case meaning "doesn't think killing white babies is fine."

[close]

[Snoopycat_]

It's sort of impressive how ree can take offence at every little thing -

People calling you boss. Return the favor and call them sweety.

I don't understand how calling someone sweety in return would be an insult, but ree logic I guess.



https://www.resetera.com/threads/people-calling-you-boss.710348/

[PogiJones]

hype up a series by someone spearheading a hate campaign that is LITERALLY citing Hitler.

...citation needed?

I see a citation of a Hitler citation sitting at a table, I see two Hitler citations.

[BisMarckie]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/did-you-ever-liked-a-game-character-so-much-that-you-made-it-your-whole-existence.710354/


What kind of lunatic would do this? Just because I like Overwatch’s Lucio doesn't mean I pretend to be an expert on Brazilian culture or take capoeira classes….oh.

[ldcommando (notthegafone)]

[Daffy Duck]

Also lots of “fuck Nintendo” in the hacker thread, but all will be forgotten when BOTW 2.0 launches

https://www.resetera.com/threads/did-you-ever-liked-a-game-character-so-much-that-you-made-it-your-whole-existence.710354/


What kind of lunatic would do this? Just because I like Overwatch’s Lucio doesn't mean I pretend to be an expert on Brazilian culture or take capoeira classes….oh.

God it would be absolutely fucking glorious for someone to call out NepNep over this. If I had an account I’d happily suicide it for the lols

[nobody of note]

Constructive thread seems to slowly be morphing the 'soft ban' into an 'we want an OT for AI-created meme stuff':
Two mods:

I can't wait for the AI Generator thread though I think there should be a few different ones: audio/video, image, code/API/tech, misc.

Majority of the threads we've had either land on the industry/medical  side of things, or literally just "check out this video/picture/story" that this AI made. This approach will allow for visibility on the important stories, while the flood of "here's a shiny thing AI made" can have its own megathread. I think it'll work for everyone considering how we don't want to dismiss the importance of AI developments and simultaneously those that care to seek out this sort of content can easily find it.

How does this affect AI stuff at run-time?

Can discussions around the use of ML to generate frames in DLSS 3 still have new topics for the inevitable 3.1,2,3,etc revisions?

Stuff like neural radiance cache, that uses AI to calculate indirect lighting, get its own topics when it eventually gets productized?

In that regard, NVIDIA will absolutely be releasing a host of AI tech in 2023 alone that is primarily seen in run-time (and obviously pre-production asset generation: see Picasso) for games, are those exempt from the rules as they more so accelerate game development workflows alongside adding gamer benefit?

You're overthinking it - these topics can exist just fine. See above.

And to add to this, we can also revisit this when the time comes and it becomes more clear that separate threads might be useful.

[Propagandhim]

How does this affect AI stuff at run-time?

Can discussions around the use of ML to generate frames in DLSS 3 still have new topics for the inevitable 3.1,2,3,etc revisions?

Stuff like neural radiance cache, that uses AI to calculate indirect lighting, get its own topics when it eventually gets productized?

In that regard, NVIDIA will absolutely be releasing a host of AI tech in 2023 alone that is primarily seen in run-time (and obviously pre-production asset generation: see Picasso) for games, are those exempt from the rules as they more so accelerate game development workflows alongside adding gamer benefit?

You're overthinking it - these topics can exist just fine. See above.

Wait, why would it be fine?  It's middleware that automates the production of a graphical asset.  Why is that different than any other AI that assists in art?  Is it because it's more likely to take a programmer's job away in a creative field instead of an artist's?

[maninthemirror]

you know maybe I should start writing on social media that trans activists are citng hitler in doing their activism. I mean who needs citations.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/maga-cringe-post-your-favorites.332030/page-150#post-104099963

User Banned (1 Week): Gendered Insult

Why yes, I do love Magic the Gathering.

I'd wear it as that, but that would mean giving money to QCB. Queen Crazy Bitch.

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/us-poliera-2023-ot-1-kevins-no-good-very-bad-day.672442/page-132#post-104341730

User Banned (1 Week): Inflammatory Point of Comparison

china's not doing anything to me. i can't do shit about anything happening over there. you can't make me more disgusted with china than i am with america.

Does Israel or Saudi Arabia do anything to you? Why care if you ain't there, right?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/substack-ceo-refuses-to-say-if-racism-will-be-moderated-on-new-platform-substack-notes-i%E2%80%99m-not-going-to-get-into-gotcha-content-moderation.708398/#post-104123678

User Banned (1 Week): Misogynistic Slur

Whelp, rest in piss.

Interviewer really went hard on that shit too. Came back to the well like 3 times. Can't say the man didn't have shot, but he just shit down his own leg each consecutive time.

These mfers are the worst man. Its crazy how its always these cunts who want to establish a social media platform.

[TacoWallace]

it’s crazy how ree mods make the old GAF mods look competent 

Every random thread I click on has people making AI content generation jokes. Every other gaming thread has people console warring.

They're not even doing a halfway decent job anymore.

[BIONIC]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cat-killing-competition-for-children-axed-after-backlash.710495/page-3#post-104395682

Hey kiddos, today we are going to take part in genocide

Allowing cats to run wild in an environment that has evolved without any land mammals will actually cause extinctions of species that don't exist anywhere else on Earth. Cats as a species will be fine.

Throwing around the word genocide like that is sorta the focus of any comment I read in it tbh.

fair lol cant just be casually sneaking in "genocide" in sentences as if its nothing

[Uncle]

we're on the fourth step of cat genocide for god's sake people

[joeboy101]

Uh-ooooooh. Rusty done fucked up.

*(sighs)*

Genocide is the forced relocation, cultural assimilaton, and/or killing of a group of people with the intended goal being of extinction of that group of people. It is not population control of animals. Kindly do not compare the plight of the Indigenous, Palestinians, trans people and others to that of kitty cats.

Hunting is also not legally defined as wholesale animal cruelty in the majority of the world- with Costa Rica and Singapore being exceptions- nor are the behaviors of ethical or sustenance hunting equivalent to those of mentally unwell children who torture animals. Subsequently the psychological effects of hunting on children seem to be up in the air. I literally cannot find any studies about it, although I cannot imagine with humanity's 100,000 year history of killing animals for various reasons that exposing children to ethical hunting practices is guaranteed to turn them into Ted Bundy. Like, no one is doing psychological evaluations on children who fish or accompany their communities on animal hunts.

Cats are also extremely damaging to the environment because of their high success rate at hunting, which is due in part to the fact that a lot of their prey has not adapted to having the equivalent of thousands of Michael Myers running around their home, and this problem is only going to be further exacerbated due to climate change. Some population control is needed, and both TNR and cullings are both valid options. We have done this for other animals, and I would morally argue that as the apex animal on the planet, humans have an absolute duty to maintain our environments properly. Feral cats ideally should not get special treatment from other pest animals like rabbits, deer, or hogs just because we are socially attached to them.

And, for clarity my little furred facist pseudo-cop:

Genocide:

the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.

The definition contained in Article II of the Convention describes genocide as a crime committed with the intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, in whole or in part. To constitute genocide, there must be a proven intent on the part of perpetrators to physically destroy a national, ethnical, racial or religious group. Cultural destruction does not suffice, nor does an intention to simply disperse a group.

Just saying.

[clothedmacuser]

Uh-ooooooh. Rusty done fucked up.

*(sighs)*

Genocide is the forced relocation, cultural assimilaton, and/or killing of a group of people with the intended goal being of extinction of that group of people. It is not population control of animals. Kindly do not compare the plight of the Indigenous, Palestinians, trans people and others to that of kitty cats.

Hunting is also not legally defined as wholesale animal cruelty in the majority of the world- with Costa Rica and Singapore being exceptions- nor are the behaviors of ethical or sustenance hunting equivalent to those of mentally unwell children who torture animals. Subsequently the psychological effects of hunting on children seem to be up in the air. I literally cannot find any studies about it, although I cannot imagine with humanity's 100,000 year history of killing animals for various reasons that exposing children to ethical hunting practices is guaranteed to turn them into Ted Bundy. Like, no one is doing psychological evaluations on children who fish or accompany their communities on animal hunts.

Cats are also extremely damaging to the environment because of their high success rate at hunting, which is due in part to the fact that a lot of their prey has not adapted to having the equivalent of thousands of Michael Myers running around their home, and this problem is only going to be further exacerbated due to climate change. Some population control is needed, and both TNR and cullings are both valid options. We have done this for other animals, and I would morally argue that as the apex animal on the planet, humans have an absolute duty to maintain our environments properly. Feral cats ideally should not get special treatment from other pest animals like rabbits, deer, or hogs just because we are socially attached to them.

Nep must think cats are a white people invention like how violent pitbulls are an invention of class and race warfare

[Greatness Gone]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/2-cheerleaders-shot-near-austin-after-apologizing-for-opening-the-door-to-the-wrong-vehicle.710390/page-6#post-104403695

Can we please just stop posting random horrible shit?

People have posted comments similar to this one numerous times in a variety of misery porn topics, and usually get hit with a backseat mod warning or concern trolling ban. Why is this thread suddenly deserving of a lock?

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

You're overthinking it - these topics can exist just fine. See above.

Wait, why would it be fine?  It's middleware that automates the production of a graphical asset.  Why is that different than any other AI that assists in art?  Is it because it's more likely to take a programmer's job away in a creative field instead of an artist's?

Don't sweat it bro, if we ban you we might unban you if you're obsequious enough in your ban appeal and its not like we use ban histories to prop up future weak bans or anything

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

hype up a series by someone spearheading a hate campaign that is LITERALLY citing Hitler.

...citation needed? what the fuck are they talking about here?

So this one is SUPER  even by the usual standards of "Are they actually this distinguished mentally-challenged or is this just more wilfully disingenous semantics?".

Some TERF while discussing Trans Activist methods said (I'm paraphrasing here) something along the lines of "don't forget what Hitler said about the Big Lie in mein kampf" which, from context and ideological position, would suggest that the woman was equating trans activists to nazis, and you have to assume the big lie is the statement that there is no difference in biological sex / biological sex is unimportant.

Not, as posited here, "Hey guys, remember what hitler said about cheeseburgers in mein kampf? Thats what we want to do!"

[HaughtyFrank]

How dare you devalue the term "genocide"? Anyway, here are three genocide examples which are all completely unanimously recognized and are all equally atrocious

*(sighs)*
Kindly do not compare the plight of the Indigenous, Palestinians, trans people and others to that of kitty cats..

[thetylerrob]

I think she may have forgotten one of the more famous examples somehow... hmm...

[Nintex]

Nothing says "indie-at-heart" like using your 90+% market share to limit how many games a year licenses can release, forbid them from working with your competitors and threatening retailers!

"I would separate out the true independent developer vs. the hobbyist," he said. "We are absolutely reaching out to the independent developer. Where we've drawn the line is we are not looking to do business today with the garage developer. In our view, that's not a business we want to pursue."

"Look at the music industry," he continued. "There are certainly highly talented people who work other jobs and have a passion to be in the music industry. They work at it. There are reality TV shows that revolve around this concept.

"I love it when there's a game that's found that captures people's imagination, just like that... singer toiling in a factory."

"When we talk about the value of software, it could be a great $1 piece of content or a $50 piece of content," he explained. "The point is: does it maintain its value over time or is it such disposable content that the value quickly goes to zero?

~ Satoru Iwata | Indie-at-heart


Although Nintendo has changed, specifically less censorship and more fan service.

[BIONIC]

I think she may have forgotten one of the more famous examples somehow... hmm...

Gamers?

[Hap Shaughnessy]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ceo-celebrates-worker-who-sold-family-dog-after-he-demanded-they-return-to-office.710618/

I agree. It's not up to the dog.

[Boredfrom]

Nothing says "indie-at-heart" like using your 90+% market share to limit how many games a year licenses can release, forbid them from working with your competitors and threatening retailers!

"I would separate out the true independent developer vs. the hobbyist," he said. "We are absolutely reaching out to the independent developer. Where we've drawn the line is we are not looking to do business today with the garage developer. In our view, that's not a business we want to pursue."

"Look at the music industry," he continued. "There are certainly highly talented people who work other jobs and have a passion to be in the music industry. They work at it. There are reality TV shows that revolve around this concept.

"I love it when there's a game that's found that captures people's imagination, just like that... singer toiling in a factory."

"When we talk about the value of software, it could be a great $1 piece of content or a $50 piece of content," he explained. "The point is: does it maintain its value over time or is it such disposable content that the value quickly goes to zero?

~ Satoru Iwata | Indie-at-heart


Although Nintendo has changed, specifically less censorship and more fan service.

That is probably more accurate than Nintendo as a whole.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cat-killing-competition-for-children-axed-after-backlash.710495/page-3#post-104395682

Hey kiddos, today we are going to take part in genocide

Allowing cats to run wild in an environment that has evolved without any land mammals will actually cause extinctions of species that don't exist anywhere else on Earth. Cats as a species will be fine.

Throwing around the word genocide like that is sorta the focus of any comment I read in it tbh.

fair lol cant just be casually sneaking in "genocide" in sentences as if its nothing

Did they just pulled a NepNep with the white babies genocide?

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/cat-killing-competition-for-children-axed-after-backlash.710495/page-3#post-104395682

Hey kiddos, today we are going to take part in genocide

Allowing cats to run wild in an environment that has evolved without any land mammals will actually cause extinctions of species that don't exist anywhere else on Earth. Cats as a species will be fine.

Throwing around the word genocide like that is sorta the focus of any comment I read in it tbh.

fair lol cant just be casually sneaking in "genocide" in sentences as if its nothing

ITT a bunch of distinguished mentally-challenged Americans and Europeans criticise something done in another country without any understanding of what that thing is or why they're doing it.

AKA cultural imperialism AKA just another thread on Reeeeesetera.

[Taco Bell Tower]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/found-out-my-partner-has-been-cheating%E2%80%A6.662293/page-16#post-104393354

Probably the final update for this thread (because it’s good and anything else will be boring).

The good updates from the last post mostly held true. With some moments of pure chaos sprinkled in. My wife has been doing a lot of good work, but the other guy has just not been letting up. He calls and leaves voicemails, texted, etc. and before you ask, yes, he should have been blocked and that was the last element that I have been working through with her.

Recently it blew up a bit because he was still trying to reach out to her and it was obviously affecting her still. When we discussed it in therapy she admitted that as good as it’s going , she just has such a hard time closing the door. This resulted in a bit of a breakdown and her finally facing this stuff. She called him, told him he needed to stop forever, she was done, he would be blocked.

I actually called his wife the next day and talked to her for about an hour. I knew she knew, but I had heard almost everything through my wife, which she has heard through him and I wanted to smash that cycle so he’d lose any power of controlling the narrative. Honestly I should have done it earlier, but I was just trying to keep my head above water. She was so kind, and it actually felt really good to talk to her. We compared notes on the stories we had from them and filled in a lot of gaps. There were a number of things she cleared up and also revealed some areas he had been lying to my wife about (not shocking at all I know). They are having a harder time with their marriage. And while I blame my wife for her own choices, there’s a lot of the story that seems like he manipulated the scenario quite a bit and was pretty persistent and actually originally got turned down, but kept trying. Obviously she should have stopped it, but I think it speaks a bit to what he’s still doing and his personality. We keep open contact now to make sure our stories line up and if we hear or notice anything.

The combo of these two things finally smashed this saga. My wife had a really hard few days, but it was a cathartic kind of hard. She had a long conversation with her friends that knew and therapist over that weekend. She sat down with me and had a huge list of things she said she knew she had fucked up, she admitted her feelings are still a mess, but she would be an idiot to not realize that the person that has loved her the best and brought out the best in her was right in front of her, and she was wants to commit to us and rebuilding our life - no matter how long it takes. Apparently her therapist told her this was a huge breakthrough and she thinks it’s the best choice she’s made in all of this and as great as I’ve been to her she thinks she’ll love her whole life being grateful she made this choice.

Life since has been great actually. She’s still dealing with a lot, but she talks to me about it, she sings around the house, she laughs, she’s making vacation plans with me, her friends tell me how much she talks about me and how grateful she is, she tells me her friends think I’m amazing and she’s be an idiot to let me go, even the way she communicates to me in small things has changed - she is super attentive, remembers little details about my day, specifically stops herself when she accidentally interrupts or doesn’t pay attention. It’s like I have my best friend back.

I really didn’t expect us to make it here ever. But here we are.

[BIONIC]

I figured we'd reach this point, as nuanced discourse on the topic of AI in general seemed nearly impossible as of late, and goodness knows I've tried to contribute to that discourse as considerately as possible. I do understand the concern and completely respect the decision to ban the topic, though I question the framing. I do feel that artists who are taking advantage of AI tools to assist in their work are largely being ignored in this discussion; I was looking for an Adobe Firefly thread here, thinking that surely AI tools that have been designed by artists for artists in an ethical way would garner interest on this forum, but unfortunately that was not the case; if a thread for it exists, I haven't seen it.

I do have a question. I am currently developing a project that will be released on Steam and a future Nintendo platform that would be effectively impossible without the use of large language models like GPT-4 (there are some simulation and procedurally generated aspects that allow players to have open-ended interactions with the gameworld and the "entities" that inhabit it in a way that is not practically possible without AI, even for a AAA company). It also would not be possible without my artistic vision and input; there is a core message and theme that stems from my vision and is expressed artistically by me, and I have provided the procedural algorithms with my own artistic works to reference and provide a framework for how content should be procedurally generated for players. Will discussion of a project like mine be banned on this forum?


I'm not going to get into the weeds about how I feel about how this topic has been handled so far, but should I decide to remain here (this in all likelihood is not going to happen, unfortunately), I don't want to break any rules. Thanks in advance for the clarification.

Bitch, how many times did you “leave” already?

[benjipwns]

Constructive thread seems to slowly be morphing the 'soft ban' into an 'we want an OT for AI-created meme stuff':
Two mods:

You're overthinking it - these topics can exist just fine. See above.

And to add to this, we can also revisit this when the time comes and it becomes more clear that separate threads might be useful.

So, friends, we're all ACAB progressives here, we need to talk about the concept of due process. Now, due process is an old idea it was first...

[Straight Edge]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/found-out-my-partner-has-been-cheating%E2%80%A6.662293/page-16#post-104393354

Probably the final update for this thread (because it’s good and anything else will be boring).

The good updates from the last post mostly held true. With some moments of pure chaos sprinkled in. My wife has been doing a lot of good work, but the other guy has just not been letting up. He calls and leaves voicemails, texted, etc. and before you ask, yes, he should have been blocked and that was the last element that I have been working through with her.

Recently it blew up a bit because he was still trying to reach out to her and it was obviously affecting her still. When we discussed it in therapy she admitted that as good as it’s going , she just has such a hard time closing the door. This resulted in a bit of a breakdown and her finally facing this stuff. She called him, told him he needed to stop forever, she was done, he would be blocked.

I actually called his wife the next day and talked to her for about an hour. I knew she knew, but I had heard almost everything through my wife, which she has heard through him and I wanted to smash that cycle so he’d lose any power of controlling the narrative. Honestly I should have done it earlier, but I was just trying to keep my head above water. She was so kind, and it actually felt really good to talk to her. We compared notes on the stories we had from them and filled in a lot of gaps. There were a number of things she cleared up and also revealed some areas he had been lying to my wife about (not shocking at all I know). They are having a harder time with their marriage. And while I blame my wife for her own choices, there’s a lot of the story that seems like he manipulated the scenario quite a bit and was pretty persistent and actually originally got turned down, but kept trying. Obviously she should have stopped it, but I think it speaks a bit to what he’s still doing and his personality. We keep open contact now to make sure our stories line up and if we hear or notice anything.

The combo of these two things finally smashed this saga. My wife had a really hard few days, but it was a cathartic kind of hard. She had a long conversation with her friends that knew and therapist over that weekend. She sat down with me and had a huge list of things she said she knew she had fucked up, she admitted her feelings are still a mess, but she would be an idiot to not realize that the person that has loved her the best and brought out the best in her was right in front of her, and she was wants to commit to us and rebuilding our life - no matter how long it takes. Apparently her therapist told her this was a huge breakthrough and she thinks it’s the best choice she’s made in all of this and as great as I’ve been to her she thinks she’ll love her whole life being grateful she made this choice.

Life since has been great actually. She’s still dealing with a lot, but she talks to me about it, she sings around the house, she laughs, she’s making vacation plans with me, her friends tell me how much she talks about me and how grateful she is, she tells me her friends think I’m amazing and she’s be an idiot to let me go, even the way she communicates to me in small things has changed - she is super attentive, remembers little details about my day, specifically stops herself when she accidentally interrupts or doesn’t pay attention. It’s like I have my best friend back.

I really didn’t expect us to make it here ever. But here we are.

As long as he and the other guy's wife can coordinate to keep tabs on their spouses, they'll be fine!

[benjipwns]

Uh-ooooooh. Rusty done fucked up.

Cats are also extremely damaging to the environment because of their high success rate at hunting, which is due in part to the fact that a lot of their prey has not adapted to having the equivalent of thousands of Michael Myers running around their home, and this problem is only going to be further exacerbated due to climate change.

Climate change makes cats more efficient and prolific? Sweet.

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She knows this isn't how evolution works right?

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Just kidding, I know she doesn't.

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[Skullfuckers Anonymous]

Ableism alert 

He does that spastic I’m out of control and I’m not athletic thing a lot. It’s part of his game. It works sometimes but it does have backfire consequences

Dude what.

Can we not with that word?

I'm so confused. What word?

The S word is massively ableist.

Massively? The definition (relating to or affected by muscle spasm) seems to match what the poster was saying about Draymond but ok... good to know.

Maybe it's a UK thing, but at least here it is on the level of (or even above) the R word. Used as derogatory slang for a disabled person.

TIL spastic is a worse word than distinguished mentally-challenged.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nba-2023-playoffs-ot-cali-4-nia-teamin.708944/page-73#post-104413706

Edit: Shame on the staff here for not applying a word filter to the most ableist word of all time!

[benjipwns]

Yeah, maybe we shouldn't listen to the country that thinks it's fine to throw around misogynistic sour.

[NekoFever]

Ableism alert 

He does that spastic I’m out of control and I’m not athletic thing a lot. It’s part of his game. It works sometimes but it does have backfire consequences

Dude what.

Can we not with that word?

I'm so confused. What word?

The S word is massively ableist.

Massively? The definition (relating to or affected by muscle spasm) seems to match what the poster was saying about Draymond but ok... good to know.

Maybe it's a UK thing, but at least here it is on the level of (or even above) the R word. Used as derogatory slang for a disabled person.

TIL spastic is a worse word than distinguished mentally-challenged.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nba-2023-playoffs-ot-cali-4-nia-teamin.708944/page-73#post-104413706

Edit: Shame on the staff here for not applying a word filter to the most ableist word of all time!

I mean it is an outdated medical term for someone with cerebral palsy, specifically one who lacks the muscle coordination to walk. I'm kind of surprised there hasn't been a bigger move against its use in US English considering the hard-on for inclusive language has claimed much more tenuous victims.

And yeah, in the UK you'd probably get more of a record scratch effect if you called someone a spastic than if you called them a distinguished mentally-challenged fellow or cunt. Used to be a really common playground insult in the 80s and 90s but you don't hear it now.

[Uncle]

there was surprisingly not a lot of talk at era about this in their elon thread

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1648412399794364417

I guess everyone is numb to it now, how many times can one say "fuck musk" and "just deleted my twitter again"

[Potato]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/ceo-celebrates-worker-who-sold-family-dog-after-he-demanded-they-return-to-office.710618/

I agree. It's not up to the dog.

I call bullshit.

What kind of fucked in the head idiot thinks dogs need 24-hour human supervision?

[clothedmacuser]

Uh-ooooooh. Rusty done fucked up.

*(sighs)

Cats are also extremely damaging to the environment because of their high success rate at hunting, which is due in part to the fact that a lot of their prey has not adapted to having the equivalent of thousands of Michael Myers running around their home, and this problem is only going to be further exacerbated due to climate change. Some population control is needed, and both TNR and cullings are both valid options. We have done this for other animals, and I would morally argue that as the apex animal on the planet, humans have an absolute duty to maintain our environments properly. Feral cats ideally should not get special treatment from other pest animals like rabbits, deer, or hogs just because we are socially attached to them.

Fuck!  I just realized why Nepenthe hates cats so much.



 

I bet she ID's as a German Shepard "Guard Dog."   That would explain her conveniently forgetting a certain population in regards to genocide.

[Potato]

Ableism alert 

He does that spastic I’m out of control and I’m not athletic thing a lot. It’s part of his game. It works sometimes but it does have backfire consequences

Dude what.

Can we not with that word?

I'm so confused. What word?

The S word is massively ableist.

Massively? The definition (relating to or affected by muscle spasm) seems to match what the poster was saying about Draymond but ok... good to know.

Maybe it's a UK thing, but at least here it is on the level of (or even above) the R word. Used as derogatory slang for a disabled person.

TIL spastic is a worse word than distinguished mentally-challenged.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/nba-2023-playoffs-ot-cali-4-nia-teamin.708944/page-73#post-104413706

Edit: Shame on the staff here for not applying a word filter to the most ableist word of all time!

You'd get away with using distinguished mentally-challenged fellow much much easier than spastic here. In fact, I can't remember the last time I heard spastic used at all, let alone in a derogatory way.

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1648412399794364417

I wonder what the AP Stylebook says about using "safe" this way.

“Twitter’s decision to covertly roll back its longtime policy is the latest example of just how unsafe the company is for users and advertisers alike,” said Sarah Kate Ellis, the president and CEO of the advocacy group GLAAD. “This decision to roll back LGBTQ safety pulls Twitter even more out of step with TikTok, Pinterest, and Meta, which all maintain similar policies to protect their transgender users at a time when anti-transgender rhetoric online is leading to real world discrimination and violence.”

Is that one part a threat?

[benjipwns]

Smdh, all this cultural appropriation and not staying in their lane, no wonder non-yts are desperately trying to leave this country and escape capitalism, colonialism and white supremacy:
https://twitter.com/ybees3/status/1648287054290202626

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https://twitter.com/ybees3/status/1648307703914086400

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[Uncle]

You'd get away with using distinguished mentally-challenged fellow much much easier than spastic here. In fact, I can't remember the last time I heard spastic used at all, let alone in a derogatory way.

for some reason the only use of spastic I ever remember in print media is a joke told by the joker in arkham: a serious house on serious earth

https://i.imgur.com/wfWqavz.png

[Propagandhim]

Smdh, all this cultural appropriation and not staying in their lane, no wonder non-yts are desperately trying to leave this country and escape capitalism, colonialism and white supremacy:
https://twitter.com/ybees3/status/1648287054290202626

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https://twitter.com/ybees3/status/1648307703914086400

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That couple at the end.  Cute 

[Cauliflower Of Love]

Smdh, all this cultural appropriation and not staying in their lane, no wonder non-yts are desperately trying to leave this country and escape capitalism, colonialism and white supremacy:
https://twitter.com/ybees3/status/1648287054290202626

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https://twitter.com/ybees3/status/1648307703914086400

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That's alot of women from maryland.

was claire danes from maryland?

[TacoWallace]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/variety-jonathan-majors%E2%80%99-issues-worsen-as-more-alleged-abuse-victims-cooperate-with-d-a-%E2%80%99s-office.710738/

As with most of these stories, it seems this was not an isolated incident. Bummer.

You know what else was a bummer, and probably not an isolated incident? I reported this guy for posting a rather graphic Brazzers Zendaya gif (age at the time: 15) and a mod responded "this post is too old for us to take action against"

[Uncle]

and the girl too young, apparently

[Jansen]

If I was gifted a series s instead of a ps5 or even a series x, I would be extremely disappointed

https://www.resetera.com/threads/jim-ryan-2020-creating-a-special-low-priced-reduced-spec-console-is-something-that-has-not-had-great-results-in-the-past-%E2%80%9D.710708/page-7#post-104424869

Couldn't just be thankful for getting a gift at all I guess

Whole thread is just console wars extreme edition that the mods don't do much about anymore

[clothedmacuser]

https://www.resetera.com/threads/variety-jonathan-majors%E2%80%99-issues-worsen-as-more-alleged-abuse-victims-cooperate-with-d-a-%E2%80%99s-office.710738/

As with most of these stories, it seems this was not an isolated incident. Bummer.

You know what else was a bummer, and probably not an isolated incident? I reported this guy for posting a rather graphic Brazzers Zendaya gif (age at the time: 15) and a mod responded "this post is too old for us to take action against"

He sexualized a 15-year-old over eleven years ago.  Era law says we can't judge someone for something they did over 10 years ago.  Unless they have a jewish last name or are a white women.

He was just a kid when he said that!  Just a boy, his brain wasn't yet developed.  Wait, what is his race?