The Culture War Thread

[Phoenix Dark]

I still haven't heard that folk song and you know what? I got zero interest in peeping it. Because I'm a normal person. So much culture war shit is driven by this nonstop craving to consume media or content you KNOW is not for you. Virtually every liberal on twitter was reacting to that song. Who gives a fuck? Is he gonna become the next big musician and sell millions of records like Taylor Swift? Hell no. And even if he did...who gives a shit man lol.

That's the left wing version. On the right wing there's the nonstop obsession with movies they know they won't fuck with. And I love how it goes from "GO WOKE GO BROKE" to crickets when a film succeeds. Barbie is anti-male woke trash according to them and yet...is the most successful film of the year and grossed a billion dollars. Same was Ben Shapiro gave the last Batman movie a bad rating because of "wokeness" and then they all shut the fuck up after everyone realized it was a great movie that did real well.

[D3RANG3D]

[Cauliflower Of Love]

not gonna lie the attempt to make this guy a thing is pretty hilarious

[Phoenix Dark]

https://twitter.com/Youngm831/status/1700672541138784618

(it's bullshit, obviously)

You cannot convince me that all of this shit isn't a psyop. Pure brain poison aimed at destroying leftist minds, killing real radicalism, and replacing it with an endless identity war that will never cease (but during which none of these groups will truly attain any progress). I'm not a communist or socialist, but if I was a CIA agent tasked with getting rid of them non-violently...this is exactly what I'd do. And it's clearly what they are doing.

[Nintex]

After Occupy Wall Street the establishment made everything about race, identity and climate.
And schools and universities have been absolutely infected with those teachings and those kids then move on to work for the government, corporations and NGO's adding more fuel to the fire with endless funding for this nonsense.

You are right, it is exactly what you would do if you wanted to stop any revolution from happening. Look, we gave you all the pills and opportunities, your life isn't improving because cis men are holding back your progress.
All these nice things aren't for you because you want to save the planet right. We should all 'degrowth' instead, look at that homeless guy eating a hamburger. He's literally destroying the planet. Why don't you capture footage of him with your new iPhone.

It's why Dawkins fears he was wrong in challenging Christianity as far more dangerous and toxic ideologies have replaced it. He and his peers figured that if you 'cured' people from Christianity it would lead to a more rational society.
However, this didn't happen at all. People latch on to anything to fill a void of belonging and belief and Christianity itself has radicalized too in self preservation.

And the climate and gender church is not much different really, I mean, like religions of old they claim that these doomsday events will end us all with very little evidence that their solutions like burning more trees work.
The effects of those fantasies are devastating though, real problems like homelessness and the drug epidemic aren't solved because why solve them if the real problem is a transphobic genocide and the world ends tommorow.

And those chicks, well they are on drugs, plain and simple. Probably prescription drugs but still drugs.

[Phoenix Dark]

After Occupy Wall Street the establishment made everything about race, identity and climate.
And schools and universities have been absolutely infected with those teachings and those kids then move on to work for the government, corporations and NGO's adding more fuel to the fire with endless funding for this nonsense.

You are right, it is exactly what you would do if you wanted to stop any revolution from happening. Look, we gave you all the pills and opportunities, your life isn't improving because cis men are holding back your progress.
All these nice things aren't for you because you want to save the planet right. We should all 'degrowth' instead, look at that homeless guy eating a hamburger. He's literally destroying the planet. Why don't you capture footage of him with your new iPhone.

It's why Dawkins fears he was wrong in challenging Christianity as far more dangerous and toxic ideologies have replaced it. He and his peers figured that if you 'cured' people from Christianity it would lead to a more rational society.
However, this didn't happen at all. People latch on to anything to fill a void of belonging and belief and Christianity itself has radicalized too in self preservation.

And the climate and gender church is not much different really, I mean, like religions of old they claim that these doomsday events will end us all with very little evidence that their solutions like burning more trees work.
The effects of those fantasies are devastating though, real problems like homelessness and the drug epidemic aren't solved because why solve them if the real problem is a transphobic genocide and the world ends tommorow.

And those chicks, well they are on drugs, plain and simple. Probably prescription drugs but still drugs.

Intersectionality was around before Occupy, and heavily in academia. I would say it's become more mainstream in the last decade plus or so but the seed was there. I've said it before but there's an undeniable connection between radical black power ideologies being purged from academia and the advent of intersectionality. Specifically through black feminism and bell hooks. The results today are clear. An ideology that outright denigrates most black men, and doesn't even deem them to be black. After all, how can they be a marginalized group worthy of study/resources/support/etc if they're just oppressors, patriarchs, and brutes. Outside of black circles I think you also see this in the way boys are treated in schools. They're viewed as a problem that needs to be solved instead of a child. White boys, black boys...this is happening across the board.

I don't think the Gloria Steinem CIA thing, and her connection to the spread of black feminism, is a coincidence. I am not a communist or a socialist. But it's not outrageous to suggest the US government did what it has always done: decapitate black male threats from the most dangerous communist organization to ever exist in this country, the Black Panthers. And then use blatant propaganda to sully the name of the group as some misogynist hell hole. You don't need to look hard on twitter or tiktok to see countless bullshit videos about radical black orgs being anti-black women. The plot is clear as day: stir division to destroy the reputation of black radicalism and replace it with something far less threatening to the state. All while ensuring leftists fight and haggle over bullshit forever.

[team filler]

  psyops work. it's even easier these days with social media.

[D3RANG3D]

[benjipwns]

I don't think the Gloria Steinem CIA thing, and her connection to the spread of black feminism, is a coincidence. I am not a communist or a socialist. But it's not outrageous to suggest the US government did what it has always done: decapitate black male threats from the most dangerous communist organization to ever exist in this country, the Black Panthers. And then use blatant propaganda to sully the name of the group as some misogynist hell hole. You don't need to look hard on twitter or tiktok to see countless bullshit videos about radical black orgs being anti-black women. The plot is clear as day: stir division to destroy the reputation of black radicalism and replace it with something far less threatening to the state. All while ensuring leftists fight and haggle over bullshit forever.

The problem with this theory is that leftists have never needed outsiders or powerful institutions to do this. The French Revolution, the Paris Commune, the USSR, China, basically every utopian community ever, etc.

I think it's inherent to the worldview, I just haven't figured out the exact why yet. Something about how the logic is steeped under a premise of an all powerful vast paranoid totalitarian conspiracy.

But but but but but they were all under siege from the outside forces... yeah, whatever, man.

[Himu]

After Occupy Wall Street the establishment made everything about race, identity and climate.
And schools and universities have been absolutely infected with those teachings and those kids then move on to work for the government, corporations and NGO's adding more fuel to the fire with endless funding for this nonsense.

You are right, it is exactly what you would do if you wanted to stop any revolution from happening. Look, we gave you all the pills and opportunities, your life isn't improving because cis men are holding back your progress.
All these nice things aren't for you because you want to save the planet right. We should all 'degrowth' instead, look at that homeless guy eating a hamburger. He's literally destroying the planet. Why don't you capture footage of him with your new iPhone.

It's why Dawkins fears he was wrong in challenging Christianity as far more dangerous and toxic ideologies have replaced it. He and his peers figured that if you 'cured' people from Christianity it would lead to a more rational society.
However, this didn't happen at all. People latch on to anything to fill a void of belonging and belief and Christianity itself has radicalized too in self preservation.

And the climate and gender church is not much different really, I mean, like religions of old they claim that these doomsday events will end us all with very little evidence that their solutions like burning more trees work.
The effects of those fantasies are devastating though, real problems like homelessness and the drug epidemic aren't solved because why solve them if the real problem is a transphobic genocide and the world ends tommorow.

And those chicks, well they are on drugs, plain and simple. Probably prescription drugs but still drugs.

Intersectionality was around before Occupy, and heavily in academia. I would say it's become more mainstream in the last decade plus or so but the seed was there. I've said it before but there's an undeniable connection between radical black power ideologies being purged from academia and the advent of intersectionality. Specifically through black feminism and bell hooks. The results today are clear. An ideology that outright denigrates most black men, and doesn't even deem them to be black. After all, how can they be a marginalized group worthy of study/resources/support/etc if they're just oppressors, patriarchs, and brutes. Outside of black circles I think you also see this in the way boys are treated in schools. They're viewed as a problem that needs to be solved instead of a child. White boys, black boys...this is happening across the board.

I don't think the Gloria Steinem CIA thing, and her connection to the spread of black feminism, is a coincidence. I am not a communist or a socialist. But it's not outrageous to suggest the US government did what it has always done: decapitate black male threats from the most dangerous communist organization to ever exist in this country, the Black Panthers. And then use blatant propaganda to sully the name of the group as some misogynist hell hole. You don't need to look hard on twitter or tiktok to see countless bullshit videos about radical black orgs being anti-black women. The plot is clear as day: stir division to destroy the reputation of black radicalism and replace it with something far less threatening to the state. All while ensuring leftists fight and haggle over bullshit forever.

My man

Black feminism and intersectionality is a way to divide black America. It completely replaced the more masculine approaches to our issues with feel good nonsense that puts the women at the forefront at the expense of black men. Black men lose our status as black people and black minorities because we are men and men cannot be oppressed. Attacking the Panthers in particular (every movie featuring them categorizes them as bad) is always bullshit considering sheer amount of support from black sisters and black female leadership in that org. They are labeled as radicals and extremists even when they displayed clear American rights (protesting at California capitol with guns) and instituting things that would go on to be national traditions (breakfast for children). Moreover, their no nonsense "let's police ourselves" mindset tied with the Black Muslim movement. I guarantee that if black Muslims and Black Panthers were allowed to police black neighborhoods rather than Nixon's war on drugs crack would have never taken over black ghettoes the extent it did. Instead, we had Christian turn the cheek NONSENSE. But you can't say that because it goes against America's agenda against black sovereign movements.

Meanwhile cac leftists masturbate to their own farts about intersectionality as they appease fat black single feminists. SAD.

Leftism is for white faccots.

[Himu]

[GreatSageEqualOfHeaven]

I don't think the Gloria Steinem CIA thing, and her connection to the spread of black feminism, is a coincidence. I am not a communist or a socialist. But it's not outrageous to suggest the US government did what it has always done: decapitate black male threats from the most dangerous communist organization to ever exist in this country, the Black Panthers. And then use blatant propaganda to sully the name of the group as some misogynist hell hole. You don't need to look hard on twitter or tiktok to see countless bullshit videos about radical black orgs being anti-black women. The plot is clear as day: stir division to destroy the reputation of black radicalism and replace it with something far less threatening to the state. All while ensuring leftists fight and haggle over bullshit forever.

The problem with this theory is that leftists have never needed outsiders or powerful institutions to do this. The French Revolution, the Paris Commune, the USSR, China, basically every utopian community ever, etc.

I think it's inherent to the worldview, I just haven't figured out the exact why yet. Something about how the logic is steeped under a premise of an all powerful vast paranoid totalitarian conspiracy.

But but but but but they were all under siege from the outside forces... yeah, whatever, man.

Essentially the left wing / right wing social split is between "let's work together to make things better" vs "Things are basically fine now so let's not fuck it up".

So broad strokes consensus - "Let's make things better!" is easy, but agreeing to the actual substantitive qualities of a) what 'better' consists of and b) what actions should be taken to achieve that is where the arguments start.

[Phoenix Dark]

I don't think the Gloria Steinem CIA thing, and her connection to the spread of black feminism, is a coincidence. I am not a communist or a socialist. But it's not outrageous to suggest the US government did what it has always done: decapitate black male threats from the most dangerous communist organization to ever exist in this country, the Black Panthers. And then use blatant propaganda to sully the name of the group as some misogynist hell hole. You don't need to look hard on twitter or tiktok to see countless bullshit videos about radical black orgs being anti-black women. The plot is clear as day: stir division to destroy the reputation of black radicalism and replace it with something far less threatening to the state. All while ensuring leftists fight and haggle over bullshit forever.

The problem with this theory is that leftists have never needed outsiders or powerful institutions to do this. The French Revolution, the Paris Commune, the USSR, China, basically every utopian community ever, etc.

I think it's inherent to the worldview, I just haven't figured out the exact why yet. Something about how the logic is steeped under a premise of an all powerful vast paranoid totalitarian conspiracy.

But but but but but they were all under siege from the outside forces... yeah, whatever, man.

While this is true, it never stopped the CIA and FBI from targeting those organizations. From infiltrating the civil rights movement to killing Black Panthers to cointelpro, it's been a pretty key directive from the state. I agree these groups inevitably all fail though, which is why the far left will never win.

I think it's about purity btw. There's always going to be an inherent incentive to cast yourself as the purist comrade, or the biggest victim. This results in hierarchy which creates division over who should be in charge, or who matters the most. And eventually they tear each other apart every time, resulting in splinter groups that just get more and more insular.

[Pissy F Benny]

What are you talking about, show me a single time where leftists cast someone as a abject, psychotic demon from hell just because they disagree on a single topic

[D3RANG3D]

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[team filler]

https://twitter.com/MANULSHH/status/1706788191569690633