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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #2340 on: September 27, 2022, 07:38:40 PM »
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #2341 on: September 28, 2022, 09:16:29 AM »
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« Reply #2343 on: September 28, 2022, 10:12:39 AM »
And lmfao the fucking White House Twitter account is propelling in a "the other side is wrong" thing. "The Republicans are your enemy, seniors!" :dead

https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1574870713047126017

This is not the job of the White House. Can't wait for the next GOP president and for liberals to FREAK OUT when the GOP uses the WH Twitter to shit on Dems. :facepalm

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« Reply #2344 on: September 28, 2022, 10:28:43 AM »
Gotta love how he describes W Bush's privatization proposal as "modest" when the 2005 plan literally called on privatizing social security and allowing people to personally divert the tax into the stock market - two years before the Great Recession btw - which would effectively kill the program's funding. No wonder republicans lost the senate a year later. There was nothing modest about that proposal and multiple republicans since then, including Rick Scott-endorsed Blake Masters, continue to advocate for privatizing Social Security.

But in terms of today let me get this straight. The chair of the National Republican Senatorial Committee, who has recruited or endorsed a collection of terrible candidates in direct opposition to Mitch McConnell's preferences, put out a plan for America that literally calls for invalidating all federal programs/legislation every five years unless 60 senators can agree to restore it. Said person has also spent much of the year warring with the senate minority leader, who also happens to be at odds with Trump. Said person is also seemingly positioning himself to replace McConnell as minority leader. But democrats are wrong for highlighting this plan and forcing republican candidates to get on record.

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1569891437780832256
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #2345 on: September 28, 2022, 11:32:48 AM »
https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1575119416165126146

The problem is captured states and lack of moderate politics.

Texas is a captured state. California is a captured state. Texas Democrat candidates like Beto tend to run like a progressive in California; California Republicans run like a Texan conservative. There's no moderation dependent on the locale. If Beto had ran a more moderate campaign he would have beaten Cruz in 2018. Instead he chose to run like a Californian in Texas. You can't do that and the Democratic party would be fair more successful in Texas and Republicans in California if they made concessions. Democrats could do well here but have chosen to be viewed as toxic and prove Texan conservatives right. Too often it comes across as if they're trying to appeal to the national party rather than to actual state/local issues. No matter your viewpoint, you can't campaign in Texas, the Lone star state - home of cowboys galore - and expect to win when going on record to say,"yes we will take your guns!" And that's just one issue on the table. They aren't campaigning to win. They're campaigning to get points with the national party.

The weirdest thing is that you would expect opposing parties in captured states to you know, moderate. But for whatever reason they don't.
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« Reply #2346 on: September 28, 2022, 11:53:24 AM »


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« Reply #2347 on: September 28, 2022, 12:01:27 PM »
What would not have happened?   :lol

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« Reply #2348 on: September 28, 2022, 12:14:57 PM »
Gotta love the way Don sells himself. :lol

Also, what kind of deal could either side want? Russia wants Ukraine; Ukraine wants its survival as a nation. Russia has invested too much into this war to simply back out because it's on Putin's head if they do.

Finally, for the first time in my life I'm grateful that we pump the amount we do into military. Might truly is right. Boomers weren't wrong :obama
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« Reply #2349 on: September 28, 2022, 01:00:54 PM »
https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1574825589105725458

is this even real

I mean, Clark Kent personifies Kansas's brand pretty well.

Dorothy Gale too.

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« Reply #2350 on: September 28, 2022, 01:03:01 PM »
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"I will head up group???"

When did Trump turn into an ESL tech intern?

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« Reply #2351 on: September 28, 2022, 01:04:30 PM »
Gotta love the way Don sells himself. :lol

Also, what kind of deal could either side want? Russia wants Ukraine; Ukraine wants its survival as a nation. Russia has invested too much into this war to simply back out because it's on Putin's head if they do.

Finally, for the first time in my life I'm grateful that we pump the amount we do into military. Might truly is right. Boomers weren't wrong :obama

*Has* Russia actually, publicly said what they want out of the war?

If you have no stated, achievable goal going in then it seems like war for war's sake. What did he tell Russian citizens? Is that still the same line these days? How long can they move the goalpost before national fatigue sets in? :thinking

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« Reply #2352 on: September 28, 2022, 01:14:19 PM »
Last I checked Russians supported the war but that was when it first started.
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« Reply #2353 on: September 28, 2022, 01:39:19 PM »
What would not have happened?   :lol
I'd imagine...Trump kneecapping US intel in early 2022, claiming he's seen no evidence that an invasion is imminent. Followed by refusing to condemn Putin after the invasion, and little to no military aid to Ukraine.

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« Reply #2356 on: September 28, 2022, 03:09:52 PM »
The Feds knew that he had it too, that’s why they spent a year asking for it back before they just took it.
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« Reply #2358 on: September 28, 2022, 06:03:46 PM »
Gotta love the way Don sells himself. :lol

Also, what kind of deal could either side want? Russia wants Ukraine; Ukraine wants its survival as a nation. Russia has invested too much into this war to simply back out because it's on Putin's head if they do.

Finally, for the first time in my life I'm grateful that we pump the amount we do into military. Might truly is right. Boomers weren't wrong :obama

*Has* Russia actually, publicly said what they want out of the war?

If you have no stated, achievable goal going in then it seems like war for war's sake. What did he tell Russian citizens? Is that still the same line these days? How long can they move the goalpost before national fatigue sets in? :thinking
Unlike the US in Iraq and Afghanistan, they decided against publicly stating that the goal was explicitly "regime change". Kind of understand why considering how those wars turned out.
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« Reply #2359 on: September 28, 2022, 06:04:19 PM »
Last I checked Russians supported the war but that was when it first started.
Maybe go and check now that conscription has started.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #2361 on: September 28, 2022, 08:50:56 PM »
https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1574870713047126017
This is like saying that investors paid for their "accounts" in Bernie Madoff's fund. :trumps

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #2362 on: September 28, 2022, 08:52:54 PM »
https://twitter.com/politvidchannel/status/1575130882519666690
By "prominent lawyer" here they mean #Resistence Blue Check and former prosecutor Tristan Snell who constantly tweets about how he knows nothing about the law (many such cases):
https://twitter.com/BadLegalTakes/status/1574649621602717696
https://twitter.com/damintoell/status/1574650646900445185

In any case, all Trump told Haberman is that he had Big Beautiful Documents, not that they were classified or anything specific.
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« Reply #2363 on: September 28, 2022, 11:32:54 PM »
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« Reply #2365 on: September 29, 2022, 09:19:18 AM »
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Can we stop calling that stuff socialism? Also it's bizarre how people use a hurricane to dunk political points. I don't like conservatives doing that to liberal areas too. It's so binary and disgusting. "Hur hur, floridans getting what they deserve" "hyuck hyuck Oregon getting what they deserve with these fires" as if all floridans are Republican living in the sticks next to an alligator nest and all Oregonians are super Liberal Progressives with purple hair from Portland.

It makes a mockery of the human loss and even further divides this nation. I really don't like it.
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« Reply #2367 on: September 29, 2022, 11:21:19 AM »
https://twitter.com/NotBlindfolded/status/1575487453477027840

:sabu

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« Reply #2369 on: September 29, 2022, 12:31:04 PM »
A trans traitor. :doge
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« Reply #2370 on: September 29, 2022, 12:42:26 PM »
Early data suggests monkeypox vaccine may be working, CDC says
https://www.politico.com/newsletters/politico-pulse/2022/09/29/early-data-suggests-monkeypox-vaccine-may-be-working-cdc-says-00059359

Surprised and impressed by the response to that shit. Seems largely like a concerted community response (from the communities most impacted by monkeypox) turned the tide despite vaccine availability being limited.
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« Reply #2371 on: September 29, 2022, 12:44:18 PM »
Isn't it mostly affecting gay men?
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« Reply #2372 on: September 29, 2022, 01:09:21 PM »
Isn't it mostly affecting gay men?
Yes, predominantly. There were high infection rates early but it's pretty much been nuked by community action and the vaccine.
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« Reply #2373 on: September 29, 2022, 01:43:52 PM »
:heartbeat
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« Reply #2374 on: September 29, 2022, 01:57:12 PM »
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« Reply #2375 on: September 29, 2022, 02:02:55 PM »
It's funny how religious people use that similar line of thinking towards gay people (AIDS, monkey pox, homelessness, alcohol/drug abuse;etc). You can find patterns in anything to justify your own bias and it's almost like humans will find any reason to justify being happy their "enemy" loses something, even if it's their life.

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« Reply #2379 on: September 29, 2022, 05:26:28 PM »
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Can we stop calling that stuff socialism? Also it's bizarre how people use a hurricane to dunk political points. I don't like conservatives doing that to liberal areas too. It's so binary and disgusting. "Hur hur, floridans getting what they deserve" "hyuck hyuck Oregon getting what they deserve with these fires" as if all floridans are Republican living in the sticks next to an alligator nest and all Oregonians are super Liberal Progressives with purple hair from Portland.

It makes a mockery of the human loss and even further divides this nation. I really don't like it.

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« Reply #2380 on: September 29, 2022, 05:36:52 PM »
If we really want to get into the weeds, the only political party that regularly votes against disaster aide are republicans. Including what, damn near 200 voting against the Hurricane Ida aide last year because congress also needed to raise the debt limit? Or senate wise, Ted Cruz regularly voting against aide unless it's for Texas. Rand Paul doing the same for Kentucky.
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« Reply #2381 on: September 29, 2022, 06:27:42 PM »
God works in mysterious ways

https://mobile.twitter.com/JoeMyGod/status/1575531681921966081
Like I'm supposed to believe that Dick Cheney took the Hurricane directing device with him when he left the White House? Not a chance the feds don't have more than one.

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« Reply #2382 on: September 29, 2022, 07:09:15 PM »
Judge rules Trump lawyers don’t have to clarify Mar-a-Lago document claims
Special master Raymond Dearie had told Donald Trump’s attorneys to address whether documents were, as Trump has claimed, planted or declassified

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/09/29/cannon-dearie-trump-documents-classified/

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« Reply #2383 on: September 30, 2022, 12:39:26 AM »
If we really want to get into the weeds, the only political party that regularly votes against disaster aide are republicans. Including what, damn near 200 voting against the Hurricane Ida aide last year because congress also needed to raise the debt limit? Or senate wise, Ted Cruz regularly voting against aide unless it's for Texas. Rand Paul doing the same for Kentucky.

Yeah it's pretty ridiculous how Republicans do this and don't get enough shit for it.
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« Reply #2384 on: September 30, 2022, 09:26:17 AM »
https://twitter.com/shashj/status/1575784584540696577

Mixture of Reaganomics and anti-trade caveman shit, without the dollar to save you. Good fucking luck.
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« Reply #2386 on: September 30, 2022, 02:31:09 PM »
The Republicans are gaining in nearly all the polls. Which is obvious considering the economy is the hot button issue.
I'm not sure if abortion rights (that haven't really changed in most places either) is a big enough issue for voters to offset their general dissapointment in the Democrats.
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« Reply #2387 on: September 30, 2022, 03:14:44 PM »
The Republicans are gaining in nearly all the polls. Which is obvious considering the economy is the hot button issue.
I'm not sure if abortion rights (that haven't really changed in most places either) is a big enough issue for voters to offset their general dissapointment in the Democrats.

The problem for republicans is the abortion issue changes the dynamics of who will be voting. Ever since that Kansas abortion vote, women voting has gone up significantly in nearly every noteworthy primary contest. Dems matched or exceeded Biden's 2020 district numbers as well. Largely due to increases in women. I expect that to hold into election day barring some disaster.

If dems had a 20 seat edge in the house I'd put money on dems holding the house. Because it's only a 5 seat margin or something like that, republicans will win. But I'm nearly 100% confident democrats hold the senate. And more importantly they're sailing to victories in the MI and PA governor races, which bodes well for 2024.

If you told me 7 months ago that dems would hold the senate, hold MI/PA (and possibly WI) governor seats I'd be thrilled. It guarantees a shot at another Supreme Court judge before the next presidential election.
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« Reply #2388 on: September 30, 2022, 04:36:19 PM »
The Republicans are gaining in nearly all the polls. Which is obvious considering the economy is the hot button issue.
I'm not sure if abortion rights (that haven't really changed in most places either) is a big enough issue for voters to offset their general dissapointment in the Democrats.

I'm not sure if abortion will save the Democrats midterm chances the closer the election gets and the further away Dobbs is in rearview. Abortion hasn't been in the news lately at all for example.

Dems will lose the House. As for Senate, I have no idea. Things aren't looking good for Biden and the Democrats, though. They have no bench and will lose 2024.
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« Reply #2389 on: September 30, 2022, 04:52:10 PM »
The Republicans are gaining in nearly all the polls. Which is obvious considering the economy is the hot button issue.
I'm not sure if abortion rights (that haven't really changed in most places either) is a big enough issue for voters to offset their general dissapointment in the Democrats.

The problem for republicans is the abortion issue changes the dynamics of who will be voting. Ever since that Kansas abortion vote, women voting has gone up significantly in nearly every noteworthy primary contest. Dems matched or exceeded Biden's 2020 district numbers as well. Largely due to increases in women. I expect that to hold into election day barring some disaster.

If dems had a 20 seat edge in the house I'd put money on dems holding the house. Because it's only a 5 seat margin or something like that, republicans will win. But I'm nearly 100% confident democrats hold the senate. And more importantly they're sailing to victories in the MI and PA governor races, which bodes well for 2024.

If you told me 7 months ago that dems would hold the senate, hold MI/PA (and possibly WI) governor seats I'd be thrilled. It guarantees a shot at another Supreme Court judge before the next presidential election.

There is merit to the woman voting surge. We will see. What I don't understand is the swings to GOP in recent polls. Not sure about SCOTUS though.

Per 538:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/women-have-swung-toward-democrats-since-the-dobbs-decision/
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
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« Reply #2391 on: September 30, 2022, 06:57:37 PM »
I can see clarence resign early just so he can witness the chaos of it all  :doge
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #2393 on: October 01, 2022, 09:48:11 PM »


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« Reply #2394 on: October 01, 2022, 10:14:10 PM »
Coco Chow?!   :lol

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« Reply #2396 on: October 01, 2022, 11:10:36 PM »
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 :hmm

Coco Chow :dead

But death wish? Someone defend turtle man :tocry

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« Reply #2398 on: October 02, 2022, 02:07:28 PM »
LEAVE TURTLE MAN ALONE HE SHITS ON TBE DEMOCRATS AND HE'S THE BEST AT THAT
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