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« Reply #2460 on: October 08, 2022, 02:50:23 PM »
also Twitter:

"republicans are literally killing X group, and we should not stand for this anymore!"

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« Reply #2461 on: October 08, 2022, 05:22:58 PM »
Did MTG really say that? I'm skeptical towards any liberal claim about Republicans.



Yup she said it but how is she the face of the GOP in any way? That's like saying AOC is the face of the Democratic Party. Just pure histrionics. MTG is an anomaly within her party and regularly shat on by the likes of Turtle Dad.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/28/mcconnell-greene-gosar-white-nationalist-event-00012401

Just because you claim something is true doesn't mean it is. Bless Turtle Dad.
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« Reply #2462 on: October 08, 2022, 05:34:34 PM »
https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article266747616.html

Speaking of Turtle Dad. We support you! He's so gangster. He doesn't say shit. But you know he's cooking behind scenes like a boss. Truly the best politician of our times and a man actually caring about his constituents while protecting them from demonic forces that is known as the Democratic Party. Bless and protect him.
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« Reply #2464 on: October 09, 2022, 12:07:59 PM »
Oh brother  :lol

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« Reply #2465 on: October 10, 2022, 01:43:48 PM »
Bidens train deal to give employees 1 (one) sick day has collapsed

https://twitter.com/JonahFurman/status/1579513805834715136
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« Reply #2466 on: October 10, 2022, 02:02:50 PM »
Obviously, once you give in to blackmail from the unions they won't stop asking for more.
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« Reply #2467 on: October 10, 2022, 06:21:59 PM »


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« Reply #2469 on: October 11, 2022, 01:42:49 PM »
Who's that, is she a twitch streamer?
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« Reply #2470 on: October 11, 2022, 03:31:38 PM »
Dat "Assad didn't use chemical weapons in Syria" to "Russia won't attack Ukraine" to "obviously Russia had to attack Ukraine" to "Ukraine is developing chemical weapons" intellectual/political pipeline.
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« Reply #2471 on: October 11, 2022, 06:09:44 PM »
Wow Biden is calling for three Latinxs to resign, horrible optics on this, why is he targeting the latinx community????

https://twitter.com/SpecNews1SoCal/status/1579948317454192640
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« Reply #2472 on: October 11, 2022, 07:13:42 PM »


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« Reply #2473 on: October 11, 2022, 08:58:47 PM »
https://twitter.com/againstgrmrs/status/1579948224403886081

MASHAA ALLAH and ALHAMDULILLAH!

The Democrats cannot stop the changing cultural tide! Inshaa Allah! :bow



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« Reply #2474 on: October 12, 2022, 01:43:27 AM »
So you hate gays now

Weird seeing protesters holding signs that say "homosexuality big sin" being lauded by a pro-gay anti-trans twitter

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« Reply #2475 on: October 12, 2022, 02:24:01 AM »
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« Reply #2476 on: October 12, 2022, 02:50:09 AM »
How the tides have turned.

We've come a long way from Republicans debating which country in the Middle East to bomb first with thermonuclear warheads to muslims being praised for standing up for conservative values and Dr. Oz running on the Trump ticket.
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« Reply #2477 on: October 12, 2022, 04:29:57 AM »
So you hate gays now

Weird seeing protesters holding signs that say "homosexuality big sin" being lauded by a pro-gay anti-trans twitter

Hate? No. Think it becoming normalized is bad for society? Yes.
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« Reply #2478 on: October 12, 2022, 04:44:53 AM »
How the tides have turned.

We've come a long way from Republicans debating which country in the Middle East to bomb first with thermonuclear warheads to muslims being praised for standing up for conservative values and Dr. Oz running on the Trump ticket.

What's interesting is see this play out in real time in the community. My Pakistani friend is more Orthodox in his Islam, as per his cultural roots (extreme gender separation, arranged marriage;etc), while I'm progressive (not in a political sense) and anti-Salafi/Wahhabi, informed by my American cultural values. Meanwhile his politics are liberal whereas mine are conservative.

https://twitter.com/nwarikoo/status/1579670694102994945

Yes. Yessss
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« Reply #2479 on: October 12, 2022, 08:50:27 AM »
If they are scared of lgbt books they are free to go home to Afghanistan
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« Reply #2480 on: October 12, 2022, 09:37:11 AM »
So you hate gays now

Weird seeing protesters holding signs that say "homosexuality big sin" being lauded by a pro-gay anti-trans twitter

Hate? No. Think it becoming normalized is bad for society? Yes.
What does this even mean.
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« Reply #2481 on: October 12, 2022, 09:49:34 AM »
So you hate gays now

Weird seeing protesters holding signs that say "homosexuality big sin" being lauded by a pro-gay anti-trans twitter

Hate? No. Think it becoming normalized is bad for society? Yes.
What does this even mean.

himu is trying to say he hates gays in a different form.

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« Reply #2482 on: October 12, 2022, 10:28:47 AM »
If they are scared of lgbt books they are free to go home to Afghanistan

The first (and most famous)  in America were black. Nice try, though!

So you hate gays now

Weird seeing protesters holding signs that say "homosexuality big sin" being lauded by a pro-gay anti-trans twitter

Hate? No. Think it becoming normalized is bad for society? Yes.
What does this even mean.

Its normalization has led to seeping into every corner of life. It was about acceptance but now it's about fully taking in every part of their agenda. They put their agenda over everything culturally. Meanwhile their culture is bereft of any values. Having men compete with women in sports, the entire trans thing, especially when forced on kids, trans women forcing themselves into women's spaces - even lesbian spaces, if you don't accept all of this you're a transphobe. Trans people overwhelmingly are Marxist radicals hoping to upend gender norms. Look at the BLM org and its queer based Marxist grift. Then there's the slippery slope that has happened. Ever since the legalization of gay marriage society has become increasingly sexual in public from social media, to porn being inescapable, to kids being hooted and hollered over by a bunch adult men as they shake their ass. It is a complete dopaminization of civilization, much like with Rome, and gives credence that gays sex is solely about lust and not love, and that mentality, as it gain social acceptance through osmosis, is cancerous to society which ultimately doesn't mean anything to LGBTQ because they mostly cannot reproduce.

Society, as a whole, is much better with them in the closet. Ever since their full integration into society it has become a warped society. It is unnatural and wrong.
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« Reply #2483 on: October 12, 2022, 10:31:27 AM »
So you hate gays now

Weird seeing protesters holding signs that say "homosexuality big sin" being lauded by a pro-gay anti-trans twitter

Hate? No. Think it becoming normalized is bad for society? Yes.
What does this even mean.

himu is trying to say he hates gays in a different form.

It's a pretty common doublespeak now. I'm not homophobic...I just think homosexuality isn't normal and any discussion or example of it in proximity to children is grooming. I'm not anti-black...I just think any discussion of historical slavery and discrimination is anti-American and should be purged from history. I'm not anti-education...I just think we should ban books from libraries (you know, like Huckleberry Finn and To Kill A Mockingbird). I'm not against voter rights...I just think black voting districts should be eliminated, poll stations in black areas should be shuttered, and there should be no early voting (now that old white people aren't the only ones doing it).
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« Reply #2484 on: October 12, 2022, 10:37:04 AM »
Then there's how they've changed culture in terms of values such as freedom of speech and the way they use their power and their agenda to force their depraved narrative on everyone and everything. Chappelle is transphobic!!! So he must be gotten rid of. Cyberpunk is transphobic!!!! You're not allowed to discuss it. All this over 0.5% of the population. Liberals are overly concerned about them and give a small minority too much social power.

Live your life. Keep being you. Just don't force your stupid bullshit on the rest of us. Today's lgbt operates almost like a religion but unlike them I'm not advocating every woman wear a hijab.
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« Reply #2485 on: October 12, 2022, 10:42:47 AM »
they've changed culture in terms of values such as freedom of speech and the way they use their power and their agenda to force their depraved narrative on everyone and everything. Chappelle is transphobic!!! So he must be gotten rid of. Cyberpunk is transphobic!!!! You're not allowed to discuss it.

My dude, three posts up your praising people calling for the banning of books.

Do you want free speech or not?
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« Reply #2486 on: October 12, 2022, 10:43:12 AM »
If they are scared of lgbt books they are free to go home to Afghanistan

with that attitude you're lucky you're not european, or you'd find yourself in the literal nazi camp  :lol

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« Reply #2487 on: October 12, 2022, 10:44:14 AM »
Finally,society has to do so much to protect their precious, weakling feelings. For months news orgs and health orgs couldn't inform us about Monkeypox because it would be deemed homophobic.

https://www.nbcnews.com/nbc-out/out-health-and-wellness/sex-men-not-skin-contact-fueling-monkeypox-new-research-suggests-rcna43484

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/08/monkeypox-aids-gay-men-safe-sex/671126/

No other group gets this kind of social power for such a small minority. There truly is a gay agenda. I supported gay people my entire life. I capable of saying I was wrong about them.

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« Reply #2488 on: October 12, 2022, 10:46:38 AM »
If they are scared of lgbt books they are free to go home to Afghanistan

The first (and most famous)  in America were black. Nice try, though!

So you hate gays now

Weird seeing protesters holding signs that say "homosexuality big sin" being lauded by a pro-gay anti-trans twitter

Hate? No. Think it becoming normalized is bad for society? Yes.
What does this even mean.

Its normalization has led to seeping into every corner of life. It was about acceptance but now it's about fully taking in every part of their agenda. They put their agenda over everything culturally. Meanwhile their culture is bereft of any values. Having men compete with women in sports, the entire trans thing, especially when forced on kids, trans women forcing themselves into women's spaces - even lesbian spaces, if you don't accept all of this you're a transphobe. Trans people overwhelmingly are Marxist radicals hoping to upend gender norms. Look at the BLM org and its queer based Marxist grift. Then there's the slippery slope that has happened. Ever since the legalization of gay marriage society has become increasingly sexual in public from social media, to porn being inescapable, to kids being hooted and hollered over by a bunch adult men as they shake their ass. It is a complete dopaminization of civilization, much like with Rome, and gives credence that gays sex is solely about lust and not love, and that mentality, as it gain social acceptance through osmosis, is cancerous to society which ultimately doesn't mean anything to LGBTQ because they mostly cannot reproduce.

Society, as a whole, is much better with them in the closet. Ever since their full integration into society it has become a warped society. It is unnatural and wrong.
So you're not only homophobic you're weird too. I'm not going to engage on this, I'll simply wait for your next complete, obsessive personality/opinion shift in a year or two. Having known you for well over a decade at this point I really think you're mentally ill and hope you get some help. No disrespect.

 And I'm someone who has some gripes with certain aspects of the trans debate in America. But gay marriage sparking an uptick in sexuality, Rome, better off in the closet lol...nah. Jesus.
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« Reply #2489 on: October 12, 2022, 10:47:12 AM »
If they are scared of lgbt books they are free to go home to Afghanistan

with that attitude you're lucky you're not european, or you'd find yourself in the literal nazi camp  :lol

Nazis want to kill people for being different. I strongly disagree with that.

I believe in the free market and competition. Let everyone do what they want, but they can do it in a way that doesn't fuck over their neighbors.

USA: Free speech, no banning books, copious gun violence.
Afghanistan: No free speech, books and music banned, copious gun violence.
Portugal: Free speech, no banning books, no gun violence.
Saudi Arabia: No free speech, books and music banned, no gun violence.

Let everyone pick which lifestyle they prefer and move there.
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« Reply #2490 on: October 12, 2022, 10:57:13 AM »
If they are scared of lgbt books they are free to go home to Afghanistan

with that attitude you're lucky you're not european, or you'd find yourself in the literal nazi camp  :lol

Nazis want to kill people for being different. I strongly disagree with that.

I believe in the free market and competition. Let everyone do what they want, but they can do it in a way that doesn't fuck over their neighbors.

USA: Free speech, no banning books, copious gun violence.
Afghanistan: No free speech, books and music banned, copious gun violence.
Portugal: Free speech, no banning books, no gun violence.
Saudi Arabia: No free speech, books and music banned, no gun violence.

Let everyone pick which lifestyle they prefer and move there.

nazis want to kill people, "literal nazis" wants refugees who don't like "how we do things 'round here" to move elsewhere  :yeshrug
your position is the position of the far right in Sweden (and presumably elsewhere in europe) if i was being too obtuse


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« Reply #2491 on: October 12, 2022, 10:59:39 AM »
I don't want them dead. I want them in the closet. My old church piano player everyone knew he was gay, and he didn't tell anyone he was gay either. Never brought a boyfriend to church, never got married. Just kept his private life separate. Didn't flex with yaaaas kween and everyone loves him.

Then there's this.

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1580195498341777409

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1577067933854945280

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1576654667253022721

LGBTQ destroys society. We should learn from Rome's example. Live your life. Doesn't mean your lifestyle should gain acceptance.
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« Reply #2492 on: October 12, 2022, 11:17:05 AM »
nazis want to kill people, "literal nazis" wants refugees who don't like "how we do things 'round here" to move elsewhere  :yeshrug
your position is the position of the far right in Sweden (and presumably elsewhere in europe) if i was being too obtuse

Theyre doing it race-based. Thats whats fucked up. Your race doesnt determine your ideas or values. The countries should be absed on value systems.

Himu and the Yall Queda should be deported to Afghanistan (pro-drug), Saudi Arabia (pro-murder), or Yemen (pro-piracy). Any Afghanis/Saudis/Yemis that believe in freedom are more than welcome to move to Sweden, the US, or whatever matches their preferences on things like healthcare and gun massacres.
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« Reply #2493 on: October 12, 2022, 11:19:34 AM »
If they are scared of lgbt books they are free to go home to Afghanistan

with that attitude you're lucky you're not european, or you'd find yourself in the literal nazi camp  :lol

Nazis want to kill people for being different. I strongly disagree with that.

I believe in the free market and competition. Let everyone do what they want, but they can do it in a way that doesn't fuck over their neighbors.

USA: Free speech, no banning books, copious gun violence.
Afghanistan: No free speech, books and music banned, copious gun violence.
Portugal: Free speech, no banning books, no gun violence.
Saudi Arabia: No free speech, books and music banned, no gun violence.

Let everyone pick which lifestyle they prefer and move there.

nazis want to kill people, "literal nazis" wants refugees who don't like "how we do things 'round here" to move elsewhere  :yeshrug
your position is the position of the far right in Sweden (and presumably elsewhere in europe) if i was being too obtuse

Notice he uses very specific examples but doesn't use examples like Dubai, Turkey, or UAE because he broadly paints Islam and Islamic countries. Yet you don't see me losing my shit and calling him an Islam phobe because frankly I don't care.

He brings up America and Portugal but we could easily bring up Russia or something. LOL.
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« Reply #2494 on: October 12, 2022, 11:22:34 AM »
nazis want to kill people, "literal nazis" wants refugees who don't like "how we do things 'round here" to move elsewhere  :yeshrug
your position is the position of the far right in Sweden (and presumably elsewhere in europe) if i was being too obtuse

Theyre doing it race-based. Thats whats fucked up. Your race doesnt determine your ideas or values. The countries should be absed on value systems.

Himu and the Yall Queda should be deported to Afghanistan (pro-drug), Saudi Arabia (pro-murder), or Yemen (pro-piracy). Any Afghanis/Saudis/Yemis that believe in freedom are more than welcome to move to Sweden, the US, or whatever matches their preferences on things like healthcare and gun massacres.

no they dont. some of their voters certainly do, but they don't.
you'd be in the progressive wing of the far right, i guess.  :lol

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« Reply #2495 on: October 12, 2022, 11:27:51 AM »
they've changed culture in terms of values such as freedom of speech and the way they use their power and their agenda to force their depraved narrative on everyone and everything. Chappelle is transphobic!!! So he must be gotten rid of. Cyberpunk is transphobic!!!! You're not allowed to discuss it.

My dude, three posts up your praising people calling for the banning of books.

Do you want free speech or not?

Ah yes, books like a gay getting his dick sucked or a trans in elementary school libraries

https://twitter.com/Bidenlies180/status/1580010317186478080
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« Reply #2496 on: October 12, 2022, 11:39:03 AM »
As for me being mentally ill, I'm not. I'm perfectly sane. I see a therapist weekly and have dealt with intense childhood trauma and PTSD my whole adult life. I've gotten treatment for it and I'm much better. Just because you disagree doesn't mean I'm mentally ill. That's awfully ableist if you, since you're calling me such a dirty homophobe (I don't care).
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« Reply #2497 on: October 12, 2022, 12:17:03 PM »
As for me being mentally ill, I'm not. I'm perfectly sane. I see a therapist weekly and have dealt with intense childhood trauma and PTSD my whole adult life. I've gotten treatment for it and I'm much better. Just because you disagree doesn't mean I'm mentally ill. That's awfully ableist if you, since you're calling me such a dirty homophobe (I don't care).
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Nothing to do with you disagreeing. Everything to do with you changing religion, sexuality, gender, and moral beliefs multiple times within the last decade plus. There's a progression of extremes here that is troubling, and your inclination to regurgitate talking points without thinking is weird as fuck.


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« Reply #2498 on: October 12, 2022, 12:24:57 PM »
Wow those illustrations are appalling. 18 year olds shouldn't be exposed to that sort of indoctrination material. Hell after seeing those pictures, even I feel like sucking some cock, I can't imagine what it's doing to our kids.

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« Reply #2499 on: October 12, 2022, 12:32:05 PM »
As for me being mentally ill, I'm not. I'm perfectly sane. I see a therapist weekly and have dealt with intense childhood trauma and PTSD my whole adult life. I've gotten treatment for it and I'm much better. Just because you disagree doesn't mean I'm mentally ill. That's awfully ableist if you, since you're calling me such a dirty homophobe (I don't care).
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Nothing to do with you disagreeing. Everything to do with you changing religion, sexuality, gender, and moral beliefs multiple times within the last decade plus. There's a progression of extremes here that is troubling, and your inclination to regurgitate talking points without thinking is weird as fuck.




None of that points to mental illness. It points to binary thinking and adjusting what you think is right or wrong, tied with depression and being overly online to make up for it. Thankfully my depression has cleared and I can believe what I think is right. Therapy helps. Also, you've never met me. I keep this stuff to myself in real life. Online is my outlet. You also have gaps in knowledge. Pieced together, you would understand. Instead you think I randomly pick and choose. Rather than be my friend and ask why I think the way I do, you merely see what I think, think I arbitrarily picked it with no life experience, and decided I'm mentally ill.

:yeshrug

Finally nothing what I expressed was weird. It's only weird to you because you subsist in a bubble of liberalism.
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« Reply #2500 on: October 12, 2022, 12:43:24 PM »
Wow those illustrations are appalling. 18 year olds shouldn't be exposed to that sort of indoctrination material. Hell after seeing those pictures, even I feel like sucking some cock, I can't imagine what it's doing to our kids.

The liberals have gone too far.

How do we get wikipedia banned?

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Can you imagine if a child was exposed to this?

Cant believe what legalizing gay marriage has resulted in
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« Reply #2501 on: October 12, 2022, 12:47:21 PM »
What’s next? Legalizing sex with animals?!  :info
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« Reply #2502 on: October 12, 2022, 12:47:31 PM »
Big Gay have gone too far this time :tocry
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« Reply #2503 on: October 12, 2022, 12:48:33 PM »
What’s next? Legalizing sex with animals?!  :info

Legalizing gay marriage was a slippery slope indeed

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« Reply #2504 on: October 12, 2022, 01:01:28 PM »
Maybe put that behind some tags breh  :exxy  :lol
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« Reply #2505 on: October 12, 2022, 01:02:01 PM »
If they are scared of lgbt books they are free to go home to Afghanistan

The first (and most famous)  in America were black. Nice try, though!

So you hate gays now

Weird seeing protesters holding signs that say "homosexuality big sin" being lauded by a pro-gay anti-trans twitter

Hate? No. Think it becoming normalized is bad for society? Yes.
What does this even mean.

Its normalization has led to seeping into every corner of life. It was about acceptance but now it's about fully taking in every part of their agenda. They put their agenda over everything culturally. Meanwhile their culture is bereft of any values. Having men compete with women in sports, the entire trans thing, especially when forced on kids, trans women forcing themselves into women's spaces - even lesbian spaces, if you don't accept all of this you're a transphobe. Trans people overwhelmingly are Marxist radicals hoping to upend gender norms. Look at the BLM org and its queer based Marxist grift. Then there's the slippery slope that has happened. Ever since the legalization of gay marriage society has become increasingly sexual in public from social media, to porn being inescapable, to kids being hooted and hollered over by a bunch adult men as they shake their ass. It is a complete dopaminization of civilization, much like with Rome, and gives credence that gays sex is solely about lust and not love, and that mentality, as it gain social acceptance through osmosis, is cancerous to society which ultimately doesn't mean anything to LGBTQ because they mostly cannot reproduce.

Society, as a whole, is much better with them in the closet. Ever since their full integration into society it has become a warped society. It is unnatural and wrong.

Stop being hateful.

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« Reply #2506 on: October 12, 2022, 01:04:39 PM »
The autism/depression -> gender affirming therapy -> gender affirming surgery highway that is now a profit model for many clinics with very poor oversight is certainly alarming :money

The books and stuff, I'm not too worried about. I do think parents should have some say in it though. Be it for religious reasons or otherwise.
Having books with kids sucking dick is kinda weird but not much weirder than sex education material for kids in general.

The 'straight' books about this stuff aren't much better. Some of the 'teen' novels we had to read in high school. In general the most highly rated Dutch literature is filled to the brim with perverts and marxists.  :donot
The most disturbing part was that our teachers had read them as well and you had to answer questions about these books and it was very hard to pretend you read them.

"What was Lisa's traumatic experience that made it difficult for her to make new friends?"
"She fell from her bike and everyone had seen it?"
"No she was drugged and raped by her uncle and then she was raped by her father and then she went to her grandfather and he locked her up in the basement and raped her too"

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« Reply #2507 on: October 12, 2022, 01:57:40 PM »
A lot of it is just disingenuous right wingers pretending like they were never kids/teens who saw "graphic" sex ed stuff in a school presentation. Kinda like how the same people pretend to have forgotten those mandatory vaccinations needed to attend school or play sports.  :doge

I'm not gonna act like this content is great. Sex ed stuff tends to suck. But there's zero chance the stuff in a library is more explicit than the sex shit that's readily available on every teen's cellphone. Nor do I buy the idea that there's a kid out here jerking off to library books. This new generation sucks but they aren't that desperate.

I'm fullstop opposed to "banning" books. You want to put explicit books in an age restricted portion of the library, fine. But as someone who was once a horny kid I can guarantee you no kids are rushing to the library to look at any of this shit and they'll likely never know it's there.
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« Reply #2508 on: October 12, 2022, 02:16:28 PM »
From what I can read from Himu's posts he doesn't hate gay people, or think they should be hurt, just that they're gross and ideally wouldn't exist.

If i'm misunderstanding please clarify for me Himu.

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« Reply #2509 on: October 12, 2022, 02:18:45 PM »
they've changed culture in terms of values such as freedom of speech and the way they use their power and their agenda to force their depraved narrative on everyone and everything. Chappelle is transphobic!!! So he must be gotten rid of. Cyberpunk is transphobic!!!! You're not allowed to discuss it.

My dude, three posts up your praising people calling for the banning of books.

Do you want free speech or not?

I'm fullstop opposed to "banning" books. You want to put explicit books in an age restricted portion of the library, fine. But as someone who was once a horny kid I can guarantee you no kids are rushing to the library to look at any of this shit and they'll likely never know it's there.


I will say, "book banning" is usually overstated

what generally happens is a school chooses to stop using a particular book as part of its curriculum, which is perfectly reasonable and happens all the time

that could mean kids are no longer forced to read a specific book and then engage in discussions about it, or that could mean it no longer shows up on recommended reading lists for that grade level

I'm not even against schools removing certain books from their library designed for students who attend there, because those books are constantly selected based on appropriateness for a school-age audience anyway

what's the alternative? are we angry that school libraries don't literally contain all the books and publications that can be found in a public library? why can't middle schoolers find mein kampf on the shelf? was it "banned?" or did someone make a logical and sound decision to just not have it on the shelf? they can find it online or in other libraries if they really want to, the book hasn't been officially censored or burned

angry mobs of conservative parents are shit, but I have no problem with the idea of questioning the thinking of the person who decided to stock any particular book, and making changes if necessary

let's not pretend that people don't conflate books being superficially made less available in a specific library, with mass book burning and government censorship, which are a world of difference apart
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #2510 on: October 12, 2022, 02:24:54 PM »
From what I can read from Himu's posts he doesn't hate gay people, or think they should be hurt, just that they're gross and ideally wouldn't exist.

If i'm misunderstanding please clarify for me Himu.

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Look at the BLM org and its queer based Marxist grift.

Fuck you too.

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« Reply #2511 on: October 12, 2022, 02:28:15 PM »
I mean at our local schools the librarians eventually put a bunch of books on carts labeled "free"

and if you went up to them angrily and demanded to know why these books have been "banned," they will tell you:

the binding is cracked and it's in really shit condition and hasn't been checked out in 10 years because it's a 30-year-old picture book introducing our new president clinton to 5th graders

or we received 10 copies of this book as part of a new curriculum adoption a decade ago and no one really wanted them but we had space on the shelf

or it's a set of encyclopedias from 1990 and we have the internet now

are librarians only allowed to retire books due to damage or irrelevance, but not social pressure? also if social pressure can influence availability of books in one direction, why not the other? suppose some of these awful conservative children's book writers push their books into schools, is it not ok to question those as well?



I'm sure some books could be said to be poorly-written or present incorrect/biased data, and I wouldn't want our children to be taught literally wrong things, but fuck me it's a book so you can't make an effort to keep kids away from it?
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« Reply #2512 on: October 12, 2022, 02:29:53 PM »
they've changed culture in terms of values such as freedom of speech and the way they use their power and their agenda to force their depraved narrative on everyone and everything. Chappelle is transphobic!!! So he must be gotten rid of. Cyberpunk is transphobic!!!! You're not allowed to discuss it.

My dude, three posts up your praising people calling for the banning of books.

Do you want free speech or not?

I'm fullstop opposed to "banning" books. You want to put explicit books in an age restricted portion of the library, fine. But as someone who was once a horny kid I can guarantee you no kids are rushing to the library to look at any of this shit and they'll likely never know it's there.


I will say, "book banning" is usually overstated

what generally happens is a school chooses to stop using a particular book as part of its curriculum, which is perfectly reasonable and happens all the time

that could mean kids are no longer forced to read a specific book and then engage in discussions about it, or that could mean it no longer shows up on recommended reading lists for that grade level

I'm not even against schools removing certain books from their library designed for students who attend there, because those books are constantly selected based on appropriateness for a school-age audience anyway

what's the alternative? are we angry that school libraries don't literally contain all the books and publications that can be found in a public library? why can't middle schoolers find mein kampf on the shelf? was it "banned?" or did someone make a logical and sound decision to just not have it on the shelf? they can find it online or in other libraries if they really want to, the book hasn't been officially censored or burned

angry mobs of conservative parents are shit, but I have no problem with the idea of questioning the thinking of the person who decided to stock any particular book, and making changes if necessary

let's not pretend that people don't conflate books being superficially made less available in a specific library, with mass book burning and government censorship, which are a world of difference apart

These are the books they had removed from the library + blocking digital access on the school interweb


    "Push" by Sapphire
    "The Lovely Bones" by Alice Sebold
    "Eleanor & Park" by Rainbow Rowell
    "Red, White & Royal Blue" by Casey McQuiston
    "And They Lived" by Steven Salvatore
    "All Boys Aren't Blue" by George M. Johnson
    "This Book is Gay" by Juno Dawson."

 
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« Reply #2513 on: October 12, 2022, 02:31:12 PM »
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« Reply #2514 on: October 12, 2022, 02:34:36 PM »
They want books banned because their special book says stuff

https://twitter.com/nwarikoo/status/1579611348744679428

I think we should ban people who follow a prophet that married a 9 year old girl.
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« Reply #2515 on: October 12, 2022, 02:39:23 PM »
they've changed culture in terms of values such as freedom of speech and the way they use their power and their agenda to force their depraved narrative on everyone and everything. Chappelle is transphobic!!! So he must be gotten rid of. Cyberpunk is transphobic!!!! You're not allowed to discuss it.

My dude, three posts up your praising people calling for the banning of books.

Do you want free speech or not?

I'm fullstop opposed to "banning" books. You want to put explicit books in an age restricted portion of the library, fine. But as someone who was once a horny kid I can guarantee you no kids are rushing to the library to look at any of this shit and they'll likely never know it's there.


I will say, "book banning" is usually overstated

what generally happens is a school chooses to stop using a particular book as part of its curriculum, which is perfectly reasonable and happens all the time

that could mean kids are no longer forced to read a specific book and then engage in discussions about it, or that could mean it no longer shows up on recommended reading lists for that grade level

I'm not even against schools removing certain books from their library designed for students who attend there, because those books are constantly selected based on appropriateness for a school-age audience anyway

what's the alternative? are we angry that school libraries don't literally contain all the books and publications that can be found in a public library? why can't middle schoolers find mein kampf on the shelf? was it "banned?" or did someone make a logical and sound decision to just not have it on the shelf? they can find it online or in other libraries if they really want to, the book hasn't been officially censored or burned

angry mobs of conservative parents are shit, but I have no problem with the idea of questioning the thinking of the person who decided to stock any particular book, and making changes if necessary

let's not pretend that people don't conflate books being superficially made less available in a specific library, with mass book burning and government censorship, which are a world of difference apart

These are the books they had removed from the library + blocking digital access on the school interweb


    "Push" by Sapphire
    "The Lovely Bones" by Alice Sebold
    "Eleanor & Park" by Rainbow Rowell
    "Red, White & Royal Blue" by Casey McQuiston
    "And They Lived" by Steven Salvatore
    "All Boys Aren't Blue" by George M. Johnson
    "This Book is Gay" by Juno Dawson."

and parents and kids can still track down these books if they really want to

when I was in school the library had banned violent comics so I had to seek those elsewhere too, and I think we can all agree that an institution normalizing nonviolence just helps those in power retain power and keeps the masses from rising up
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« Reply #2516 on: October 12, 2022, 02:43:51 PM »
and parents and kids can still track down these books if they really want to

If a child is gay, and their parent is a religious fanatic, how exactly do they track down the books?

Part of the reason of having them in school a library is to ensure that everyone has equal access to the materials.

Same with other sensitive subjects like eating disorders, self-harm etc.

Librarians are curated by educated professionals with a masters degree. They certainly know more about books than Johnny Taliban or Debby Klan.

Providing government resources for children to escape a cult is a good thing, actually.
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« Reply #2517 on: October 12, 2022, 02:48:17 PM »
and parents and kids can still track down these books if they really want to

If a child is gay, and their parent is a religious fanatic, how exactly do they track down the books?

Part of the reason of having them in school a library is to ensure that everyone has equal access to the materials.

Same with other sensitive subjects like eating disorders, self-harm etc.

Librarians are curated by educated professionals with a masters degree. They certainly know more about books than Johnny Taliban or Debby Klan.

Providing government resources for children to escape a cult is a good thing, actually.

and if a child is gay and the librarian is a fundie christian and decided to stock the library full of books that proclaim they're going through a phase and should be ashamed, do you advocate for removing those books from the library?
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« Reply #2518 on: October 12, 2022, 02:52:36 PM »
To be fair, most of these are not curriculum books. They're books that are simply stocked in the library. Every year there's a push from a certain group of people (racists) who want to ban books like To Kill A Mockingbird, which isn't a curriculum based novel in most schools today. I'm all for libraries naturally adding and removing books to fit with the times. And while I understand for instance the books I had to read in HS English - 1984, Lord Of The Flies, etc - are likely no longer heavily used in curriculums today I would expect and want those books to still be readily available in a school or local library. Because they're important literary works and hold some value in being read by young children whose minds/thoughts are in a state of development.

I'd expect a lot of sex ed books get added/replaced a lot quicker than a standard literary work. So I certainly agree that removing those books is fine in that context. But in the context of removing them because they're "obscene" or because a certain group of people have been opposed to sex education for decades? Nah.

I would also say this is important to me in part due to an experience I had in English class as a kid. At one point towards the end of a semester we had to read The House On Mango Street. I didn't know it at the time, but it's one of the most challenged or banned books in American school systems. There's a scene in the book where the main character purchases a beautiful red dress, goes out one night and is raped. There's also a lot of domestic violence in the book. As a kid I HATED the book and struggled to finish it. I wrote a scathing book review for it, and part of my argument was that the character's rape was due to her own actions (wearing a revealing dress). The day it was due, a friend of mine asked if she could read my report. I gave it to her, and watched her face go from interested to dead/disgust. She gave me my report back and didn't say anything. Later I learned she had been raped a couple years earlier.

My teacher gave me a C-, the only non A grade I received in her class. She was a feminist and frankly should have given me an F. We had conversations about that paper from the time I wrote it until I graduated. The book and the conversations it sparked changed my perspective on a lot of things. I was also able to apologize to my classmate later on.

In short...the point of English classes and novel assignments is to be introduced to different perspectives, different ideas, to understand others, and share unique perspectives. Beyond sex ed books, a lot of books featuring gay characters are being banned. Books about slavery or civil rights are being banned. Books about Jewish experiences are being banned. When I say "banned" I mean moved from school curriculums and libraries forever. This is objectively wrong.
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« Reply #2519 on: October 12, 2022, 02:53:26 PM »
and parents and kids can still track down these books if they really want to

If a child is gay, and their parent is a religious fanatic, how exactly do they track down the books?

Part of the reason of having them in school a library is to ensure that everyone has equal access to the materials.

Same with other sensitive subjects like eating disorders, self-harm etc.

Librarians are curated by educated professionals with a masters degree. They certainly know more about books than Johnny Taliban or Debby Klan.

Providing government resources for children to escape a cult is a good thing, actually.

and if a child is gay and the librarian is a fundie christian and decided to stock the library full of books that proclaim they're going through a phase and should be ashamed, do you advocate for removing those books from the library?

"Librarians are curated by educated professionals with a masters degree.'

Fundie Christians have at most a GED.
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