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« Reply #4622 on: April 04, 2023, 03:47:46 PM »
lock him up!! lock him up!! :rejoice
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« Reply #4623 on: April 04, 2023, 04:02:18 PM »
Trump turning up for his next rally :tocry

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« Reply #4626 on: April 04, 2023, 04:22:30 PM »
Guess who finally cares about voters in Wisconsin?

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1643252969977028614

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« Reply #4627 on: April 04, 2023, 04:28:01 PM »
It’s finally abuela’s time to shine :jeb
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« Reply #4628 on: April 04, 2023, 04:35:22 PM »
It’s finally abuela’s time to shine :jeb

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« Reply #4629 on: April 04, 2023, 04:43:38 PM »
It’s finally abuela’s time to shine :jeb

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« Reply #4630 on: April 04, 2023, 04:45:41 PM »
It’s finally abuela’s time to shine :jeb

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Delete your account  :camby
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4632 on: April 04, 2023, 04:51:53 PM »
Guess who finally cares about voters in Wisconsin?

twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/1643252969977028614
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« Reply #4635 on: April 04, 2023, 06:15:15 PM »
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« Reply #4636 on: April 04, 2023, 06:21:19 PM »
Yeah this is kind of a nothing burger. Fine the guy or whatever and move on.

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« Reply #4637 on: April 04, 2023, 06:35:57 PM »
Even the CNN panels are worried this ain't gonna stick
https://twitter.com/MAGAIncWarRoom/status/1643354186837270534
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« Reply #4638 on: April 04, 2023, 06:52:01 PM »
It’s finally abuela’s time to shine :jeb

Someone post the donut hole meme again please, bonus points if it s filller
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Delete your account  :camby

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« Reply #4639 on: April 04, 2023, 06:55:15 PM »
If this doesn't stick, then surely Trump needs to hire the idiot democrats as his campaign managers. They do a better job than the morons (by his own estimation) he usually hires.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4640 on: April 04, 2023, 09:01:26 PM »
We need to break Turmp out of marylogo and take our contry back!

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4641 on: April 04, 2023, 11:15:44 PM »
Liberals won a majority in Wisconsin Supreme Court for the first time in 15 years.

Abortion is killing the GOP lmao

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-liberals-win-majority-rcna77190
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« Reply #4642 on: April 04, 2023, 11:25:43 PM »
DeSantis signed a mn affordable housing plan. If he could just focus on victories like this and raising teacher salaries the guy could be a hut all across the political aisle but instead he's obsessed with getting MAGA culture warrior support.

https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/ron-desantis-signs-affordable-housing-plan/
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« Reply #4643 on: April 04, 2023, 11:40:08 PM »
https://twitter.com/alx/status/1643353510510047233
Nice, Trump getting the ol' Prosecutor Special he loves.

DeSantis signed a mn affordable housing plan. If he could just focus on victories like this and raising teacher salaries the guy could be a hut all across the political aisle but instead he's obsessed with getting MAGA culture warrior support.

https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/ron-desantis-signs-affordable-housing-plan/
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NAPLES - Gov. Ron DeSantis has signed into law a $711 million plan to make housing more affordable for working Floridians.

A priority of Senate President Kathleen Passidomo, the "Live Local Act," will more than double funding for housing and rental programs, provide incentives for investment in affordable housing and encourage mixed-use developments in struggling commercial areas.

"As demand is high to move to a place like Florida, it makes it more challenging for folks to be able to afford," DeSantis said during a bill-signing event in Naples. "I think this is the biggest effort that's ever been done in the history of Florida."
Where's the victory, all I see here is a price increase for cronies funded by the taxpayers?

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4645 on: April 05, 2023, 03:38:29 AM »
twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1643410457183567872
Well, aside from all those other crimes. :trumps

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« Reply #4646 on: April 05, 2023, 03:42:57 AM »



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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4647 on: April 05, 2023, 09:38:37 AM »
Liberals won a majority in Wisconsin Supreme Court for the first time in 15 years.

Abortion is killing the GOP lmao

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-liberals-win-majority-rcna77190

Liberals swept all the elections last night the republican party is done
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4648 on: April 05, 2023, 12:08:07 PM »


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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4649 on: April 05, 2023, 02:06:55 PM »
I am Trumpacus!
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4650 on: April 05, 2023, 02:44:22 PM »
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1643315363315081219

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Liberals won a majority in Wisconsin Supreme Court for the first time in 15 years.

Abortion is killing the GOP lmao

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-liberals-win-majority-rcna77190

Liberals swept all the elections last night the republican party is done
It's true that they need to thank Trump for sticking with them.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4651 on: April 05, 2023, 02:47:57 PM »
$47

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4652 on: April 05, 2023, 03:14:20 PM »
https://twitter.com/Victorshi2020/status/1643428231419432960

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/04/04/us/elections/results-wisconsin-supreme-court.html

Another massive L for republicans in a state-wide election. Dems now control MI, PA, and WI election administration going into 2024.  :doge

It's almost like nobody cares about trans or gay shit outside of the internet, and in real life people are concerned about abortion and democracy......
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4653 on: April 05, 2023, 04:33:17 PM »
Looks like Trump is going to beat all the counts.

https://twitter.com/OccupyDemocrats/status/1643684527683010560

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
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« Reply #4655 on: April 05, 2023, 04:46:49 PM »
Liberals won a majority in Wisconsin Supreme Court for the first time in 15 years.

Abortion is killing the GOP lmao

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/wisconsin-supreme-court-election-liberals-win-majority-rcna77190

Liberals swept all the elections last night the republican party is done

Yeah, Trump + endless culture war crap + ending Roe is going to diminish Republican gains for a decade plus. RIP. If DeSantis signs that 6 week Florida abortion bill he can kiss any Presidential wishes goodbye. No idea why they're willing to die on such a hill most Americans are moderate on. Just absolutely ridiculous banana town. The Republican Party deserves what it gets.

There's no way Democrats don't win 2024 and if the crystal ball is clear, 2028 as well.
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« Reply #4656 on: April 05, 2023, 05:06:02 PM »
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1643690466964021248

We're now praying not just for Trump, but also his buildings apparently.

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1643718074678296576

Deep State needs to practice more  :pacspit

Yeah, Trump + endless culture war crap + ending Roe is going to diminish Republican gains for a decade plus. RIP. If DeSantis signs that 6 week Florida abortion bill he can kiss any Presidential wishes goodbye. No idea why they're willing to die on such a hill most Americans are moderate on. Just absolutely ridiculous banana town. The Republican Party deserves what it gets.

There's no way Democrats don't win 2024 and if the crystal ball is clear, 2028 as well.
That's something the Republicans didn't get. Trump is the moderate. That's where his cross party appeal and minority support comes from.
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« Reply #4657 on: April 05, 2023, 05:06:55 PM »
The abortion problem is that everyone is beginning to recognize this stuff is largely bs. If abortion is murder, why is a 6 week ban better than an outright ban? Surely you should support a complete ban because saying "well we can kill the baby at 7 weeks but not 6 weeks" isn't logical. As long as Roe V Wade stood, that argument could be pushed to the side, ignored, or hidden because it didn't matter: the law of the land said abortion was legal. Now republicans have to come out and say what they really mean, and it's hurting them with normal people. It's also hurting them with pro-life people, when you think about it. Religious conservatives don't want any abortions happening. How do you tell them you've made an exception for babies who are x weeks old?

Vast majority of people are pro-choice and now that access to abortion determines on who your governor is, we're gonna see more and more republican losses. They'd be better off if we re-instate Roe v Wade in a few years tbh.
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« Reply #4658 on: April 05, 2023, 05:20:03 PM »
The abortion problem is that everyone is beginning to recognize this stuff is largely bs. If abortion is murder, why is a 6 week ban better than an outright ban? Surely you should support a complete ban because saying "well we can kill the baby at 7 weeks but not 6 weeks" isn't logical.

I never considered that factor but that's a good point. Also most people are fine with it up to 16-20 weeks. If 6 weeks is fine why isn't 16 or 20? It would grant you a concession and garner support on both sides of the aisle and do well with moderates and independents. And if up to 6 weeks is fine why not in the case of emergencies for mother or baby or in instances of rape? It's just bad politics all around and they're just going to cause more red districts become blue.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1643690466964021248

We're now praying not just for Trump, but also his buildings apparently.

https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1643718074678296576

Deep State needs to practice more  :pacspit

Yeah, Trump + endless culture war crap + ending Roe is going to diminish Republican gains for a decade plus. RIP. If DeSantis signs that 6 week Florida abortion bill he can kiss any Presidential wishes goodbye. No idea why they're willing to die on such a hill most Americans are moderate on. Just absolutely ridiculous banana town. The Republican Party deserves what it gets.

There's no way Democrats don't win 2024 and if the crystal ball is clear, 2028 as well.
That's something the Republicans didn't get. Trump is the moderate. That's where his cross party appeal and minority support comes from.

He just got out of jail. Isn't he on probation? Why is even allowed anywhere near a protest?

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That's something the Republicans didn't get. Trump is the moderate. That's where his cross party appeal and minority support comes from.


:what

Trump has said the election has been fake for years. That's far from moderate.
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« Reply #4659 on: April 05, 2023, 05:25:48 PM »
He just got out of jail. Isn't he on probation? Why is even allowed anywhere near a protest?
Because it's not the real one but an imposter. :trumps
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That's something the Republicans didn't get. Trump is the moderate. That's where his cross party appeal and minority support comes from.


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Trump has said the election has been fake for years. That's far from moderate.
After the midterms were dissapointing he pointed out that the reason was the Republican platform and going all in on abortion as well as them trying to abolish welfare benefits.
Trump also governed as a moderate on most social and economic issues. Things as justice reform as well as subsidies for farmers.
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« Reply #4660 on: April 05, 2023, 05:36:12 PM »
He just got out of jail. Isn't he on probation? Why is even allowed anywhere near a protest?
Because it's not the real one but an imposter. :trumps
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That's something the Republicans didn't get. Trump is the moderate. That's where his cross party appeal and minority support comes from.


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Trump has said the election has been fake for years. That's far from moderate.
After the midterms were dissapointing he pointed out that the reason was the Republican platform and going all in on abortion as well as them trying to abolish welfare benefits.
Trump also governed as a moderate on most social and economic issues. Things as justice reform as well as subsidies for farmers.

Trump backed TX-34 Rep Mayra Flores said this about abortion.

https://twitter.com/MayraFlores2022/status/1550629649461428226
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« Reply #4661 on: April 05, 2023, 05:39:20 PM »
I will disagree with PD on the trans issue. People care about it, they just care about abortion far more.
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« Reply #4662 on: April 05, 2023, 05:58:04 PM »
One thing I noticed in Michigan's elections last year is that democrats simply refused to get tied up on the "how many weeks" debate. It's an issue where you can simply say I support a woman's right to choose and MOST people are fine with that answer. It's one of the few issues where Americans don't seem to be showing any sign of being confused by talking points. They're just voting for whoever supporters a woman's right to choose and calling it a day.

With regards to the trans shit...there are too many elections at this point that have shown people don't care. I think most Americans are confused about this issue, aren't comfortable about various aspects of it and likely think it's weird. But the problem the right wing has is that most people don't want to be perceived as dicks or mean. That's why in social settings most people will use the pronouns a trans person wants you to use. Not because they "agree" - they don't want to be rude or have a confrontation. And I think the end result is a normal person reaction of "yea some of that shit is weird but it doesn't bother me. Do you." And as people begin to meet more trans people and trans kids, the end result will be even more understanding. Especially once the scare tactics fail and people realize oh wow, kids aren't regularly having their dicks cut off and there's a large medical process in place to determine the best health outcomes for kids.
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« Reply #4663 on: April 05, 2023, 06:01:03 PM »
Fair points all around.

This comment was on discord and I agree with it. Gave me a chuckle.

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The gop is the dog chasing the abortion car that now doesn’t know what to do once they’ve caught it

Also Nintex, Obama to Trump voters are pro-choice. That's what helped Trump in 2016. But many Trumpist politicians are completely pro-life with a capitol L.
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« Reply #4664 on: April 05, 2023, 06:23:13 PM »
People are saying GOP has to moderate on abortion.

As a Republican voter, that is a mix of pro-choice and pro-life positions, that has witnessed this past year, here's why that won't happen:

1. Abortion is like guns are for Democrats. Abortion is a wedge issue for Republicans.

2. Guns don't bring Dem voters out the way abortion brings out Republicans. Guns are a concern for Dems but they're not the top concern. There are few single issue anti-gun Dem voters. It's often a bonus position. This isn't the case with Republicans. With both guns and abortion Republicans will make that their main concern or even top issue.

3. Republican voters like me that are more moderate on abortion and aren't hardliners don't seem to be as powerful within the party nor have as much influence.

Therefore Republicans can't moderate.

If they do, they push away a crucial voting bloc in Evangelicals and Catholics which makes them unelectable. If they don't they turn off moderates and independents.

I honestly see no way out of this given how much the Republican party tied itself to this wagon for decades. Now the chain has melded and they're locked in. Similarly Democrats can't moderate on guns. But guns, unlike abortion, is protected freedom in our nation. Abortion has no such protection so Dems don't really need to moderate on guns and still win.

Democrats will just continue to eat away Republican districts and the more extreme Republican states like Texas will just get worse.
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« Reply #4665 on: April 05, 2023, 06:23:49 PM »
Especially once the scare tactics fail and people realize oh wow, kids aren't regularly having their dicks cut off and there's a large medical process in place to determine the best health outcomes for kids.

I don't agree with this

feels like every couple of months a new whistleblower from something like Mermaids comes out and says "yeah, we're all absolutely terrified of being called bigots from both within and without so there's a firm culture of rubber stamp approving everything every kid or parent says they want"

there's also plenty of coaching online of the exact words you need to say to parents and caregivers to get what you want with a minimum of pushback

we need more longer term studies on today's young people who are transitioning, which does more than follow them for 1 or 2 years, we need to know 10 years down the line if they are still happy and healthy...and such studies need to account for pressure to conform within communities, whether they are truly happy or feel like they need to say they are happy just to help normalize and promote similar procedures for others
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« Reply #4666 on: April 05, 2023, 06:27:01 PM »
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1643744170966945792

Especially once the scare tactics fail and people realize oh wow, kids aren't regularly having their dicks cut off and there's a large medical process in place to determine the best health outcomes for kids.

I don't agree with this

feels like every couple of months a new whistleblower from something like Mermaids comes out and says "yeah, we're all absolutely terrified of being called bigots from both within and without so there's a firm culture of rubber stamp approving everything every kid or parent says they want"

there's also plenty of coaching online of the exact words you need to say to parents and caregivers to get what you want with a minimum of pushback

we need more longer term studies on today's young people who are transitioning, which does more than follow them for 1 or 2 years, we need to know 10 years down the line if they are still happy and healthy...and such studies need to account for pressure to conform within communities, whether they are truly happy or feel like they need to say they are happy just to help normalize and promote similar procedures for others

The trans issue is an issue but it's not a major issue right now because they have mainstream acceptance. It's a down the line issue.  It will take someone like Jazz hurting himself to really turn it around mainstream.

But even then the amount of trans people is like 1% of the population. It's such an insignificant number might not care and the issue will correct itself in the medical community, proving PD right.
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« Reply #4667 on: April 05, 2023, 07:12:01 PM »
If the Republican party can live with their leader paying hush money to porn stars, they can surely find it in their hearts to accept a moderate position on abortion. 

From what I've seen the Trump wing of the party wants to move from an anti-abortion to pro-breeder message following along their ideological leaders like Elon Musk who believe that the human race faces extinction not overpopulation.
Trump has already announced a bunch of policies that would make it more appealing to have kids.

Otherwise they mostly think it is a states issue (so they can get abortions after the swinger parties in another state  :lol)
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« Reply #4668 on: April 05, 2023, 07:33:47 PM »
https://twitter.com/davidgura/status/1643607181395197959

Ah yes, state funded media. The same media funded by the Trump administration and other Republican governments even current red states.  :doge

It's pretty clear Musk just wants a playground and doesn't care about a quality product. Liberals were right all along on this topic.
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« Reply #4669 on: April 05, 2023, 07:48:42 PM »
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1643744170966945792

Especially once the scare tactics fail and people realize oh wow, kids aren't regularly having their dicks cut off and there's a large medical process in place to determine the best health outcomes for kids.

I don't agree with this

feels like every couple of months a new whistleblower from something like Mermaids comes out and says "yeah, we're all absolutely terrified of being called bigots from both within and without so there's a firm culture of rubber stamp approving everything every kid or parent says they want"

there's also plenty of coaching online of the exact words you need to say to parents and caregivers to get what you want with a minimum of pushback

we need more longer term studies on today's young people who are transitioning, which does more than follow them for 1 or 2 years, we need to know 10 years down the line if they are still happy and healthy...and such studies need to account for pressure to conform within communities, whether they are truly happy or feel like they need to say they are happy just to help normalize and promote similar procedures for others

The trans issue is an issue but it's not a major issue right now because they have mainstream acceptance. It's a down the line issue.  It will take someone like Jazz hurting himself to really turn it around mainstream.

But even then the amount of trans people is like 1% of the population. It's such an insignificant number might not care and the issue will correct itself in the medical community, proving PD right.
The left only cares about trans issues to use it as a cudgel against the right. The right only cares about it to use it as a cudgel against the left.

This is just as true for the US as it is in any other western liberal democracy.

The end result is that no one is moving voters one way or the other in any significant volume.

Abortion on the other hand...
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« Reply #4670 on: April 05, 2023, 07:55:01 PM »
Sa trans is being used by both. I agree, abortion is the real deal topic people care about so PD seems to be right. No one cares about the trans issue except a select number of people either on the right or left. And this affects such a minority of students and children it doesn't wholly matter in the long term for most probably and can be seen as a "phase".
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« Reply #4671 on: April 05, 2023, 08:21:18 PM »
If the Republican party can live with their leader paying hush money to porn stars, they can surely find it in their hearts to accept a moderate position on abortion. 

From what I've seen the Trump wing of the party wants to move from an anti-abortion to pro-breeder message following along their ideological leaders like Elon Musk who believe that the human race faces extinction not overpopulation.
Trump has already announced a bunch of policies that would make it more appealing to have kids.

Otherwise they mostly think it is a states issue (so they can get abortions after the swinger parties in another state  :lol)

Presidential election is one thing. Midterms and legislatures, something Republicans are losing to Democrats, are another. Especially since Republicans haven't won the popular vote in how many years?
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4672 on: April 05, 2023, 10:27:59 PM »
Every day a democrat is born and a republican dies

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4673 on: April 05, 2023, 10:47:10 PM »
I am Trumpacus!
Careful Joe:

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4675 on: April 06, 2023, 12:40:31 AM »
https://twitter.com/AriCohn/status/1643362938600796160

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4676 on: April 06, 2023, 03:34:22 AM »
https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1643635354082193414
Trump getting shot is just another new multi-episode plot to liven up the show.  :doge

Of course he survives but from that moment on he drives to his rallies with a Trump Tank and Trump Force One is escorted by F18's.
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« Reply #4677 on: April 06, 2023, 06:33:01 AM »
https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1643635354082193414

Christianity really jumped the shark then I guess. How do they insult their own religion?
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4678 on: April 06, 2023, 08:27:21 AM »
I'm pro-death: pro-abortion, pro-capital punishment, pro-gun, pro-euthanasia. Automation and AI are only accelerating the need to get rid of the dead weight.

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« Reply #4679 on: April 06, 2023, 11:03:29 AM »
Something needs to be done about Clarence Thomas
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