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« Reply #4740 on: April 13, 2023, 03:00:51 PM »
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« Reply #4741 on: April 13, 2023, 04:16:50 PM »
o shit they found the Shosta discord
The tweet said "mutual love of guns, military gear and god", not "haircare products, Che Guevara hats and champagne socialism" though...
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« Reply #4742 on: April 13, 2023, 05:32:59 PM »
o shit they found the Shosta discord
The tweet said "mutual love of guns, military gear and god"

I swear I was not involved.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4743 on: April 13, 2023, 06:21:04 PM »
I leaked it all

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Oh shit, that was the whole problem  :existential


https://twitter.com/bikinimowing/status/1646608689342697472
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4745 on: April 14, 2023, 02:36:44 AM »
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/ron-desantis-signs-6-week-abortion-ban-law-florida-rcna78989

Look at this man. There goes your chances. I won't vote for you in a primary. Team Haley.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4746 on: April 14, 2023, 12:13:58 PM »
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/ron-desantis-signs-6-week-abortion-ban-law-florida-rcna78989

Look at this man. There goes your chances. I won't vote for you in a primary. Team Haley.

Don't you Republicans want pro-life politicians in power to push a pro-life agenda?

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Or is it a case of the "dog catching the car"?

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4747 on: April 14, 2023, 05:07:39 PM »
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/ron-desantis-signs-6-week-abortion-ban-law-florida-rcna78989

Look at this man. There goes your chances. I won't vote for you in a primary. Team Haley.

Don't you Republicans want pro-life politicians in power to push a pro-life agenda?

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Or is it a case of the "dog catching the car"?

Not everyone votes or thinks the same. Just like not all Democrats want to turn the country into a socialist state even if many do. A Republican in the south has different priorities than a Republican in the Midwest or a Republican in New York and lumping them all together is pretty foolish.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4748 on: April 14, 2023, 05:22:27 PM »
Some of us just want the economy to boom and not the artillery :trumps
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4749 on: April 14, 2023, 05:53:48 PM »
There's no pivot to the center after this. I think DeSantis has smelled his own farts a bit too much.

For a while, especially during the pandemic it seemed DeSantis had great political acumen. It's pretty telling he signed this in the dark of the night without his usual fanfare. He knows it's unpopular even within his own party.

There's zero chance of him ever winning a GE at this point. I'd say raise a glass but I can't because it's Ramadan.

Furthermore, this makes it hard to take any Republican seriously on this issue especially if they say "all we want is 15 weeks!" Why trust them? Florida had a 15 week limitation which is perfectly fine and something most Americans support but now they've implemented this regressive 6 week stuff. It stands to reason that any elected Republican official wants a total ban on abortion regardless of circumstances. When I say,"15-20 weeks is fine to me" I'm saying it with a serious face, as it's what I believe and what I think most Americans believe. But these elected officials want to cater to Catholics and Evangelicals in lieu of everyone else. Abortion is GOP's slippery slope issue that the Democrats suffer with in relation to guns. You should never trust a Republican when they talk about abortion the same way you shouldn't trust a Democrat when they talk about firearms. On both issues I'm fairly libertarian and neither party is helping the case for the other. SAD.

Strategically if I were Democratic I'd want DeSantis to run for President. They'd sweep him. He has no chance after this.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4750 on: April 14, 2023, 06:04:15 PM »
Good posts on r/modpol.

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It is the same for me. I used to be for a fifteen week limit with medical exception determined by a physician, similar to what most of Europe has. It seemed like a solid compromise.

But now? I am for unfettered abortion access. Why? Because Republicans have shown that they will expand and abuse any restrictions.

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Republicans have turned me into an extremist on abortion, and I hate it.

I used to be one of those “yeah maybe we can decide on a point in pregnancy to ban it except in extreme medical cases” sort of people. Now? Now I don’t want to hear a single fucking thing about abortion from republicans. I don’t want any laws because they’ve shown they can’t control themselves.

I’d much rather leave the decision entirely up to individual women and their physicians than continue this march toward theocratic authoritarianism.

Republicans went from "Europe has more conservative abortion restrictions than us!" (which was true) to "let's ban abortion to six weeks" pretty quickly. All that will happen is Republican districts will turn further blue. The only positive here is that it will force the Democratic Party to moderate to normie Americans that like God, guns, and liberty rather than Champagne Communists in California and New York.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4753 on: April 14, 2023, 09:30:48 PM »

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4755 on: April 15, 2023, 12:01:36 AM »
And they called Trump our WWE President while Scranton Joe is doing entrances like that. :biden

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4756 on: April 15, 2023, 03:36:14 AM »
Not gonna lie that was a baller entrance  :whew
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4757 on: April 15, 2023, 07:07:29 AM »
I fucking hate that song :rage

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4758 on: April 15, 2023, 07:34:03 AM »
I fucking hate that song :rage

Biden with the Heel Heat. :jeb
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4759 on: April 15, 2023, 07:35:54 AM »
They need to do this at the debates and stuff, unfortunately there's always soy moderators going: "Don't make any sounds! Don't clap!"

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1646955579246628867


Trump's latest campaign strategy is very interesting.

Why does he keep bringing up the n-word  :doge
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1646983304959098881
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4760 on: April 15, 2023, 08:53:27 AM »
Trump's latest campaign strategy is very interesting.

Why does he keep bringing up the n-word  :doge
https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1646983304959098881

 :comeon

Well, we know it can't be because he's racist. As he said many times, he loves the blacks, he has good relations with the blacks, did more for the blacks than any other president since Lincoln. Maybe even better than Lincoln as a matter of a fact. The blacks never had it better.


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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4761 on: April 15, 2023, 12:07:26 PM »
Who knew the Irish were such mark ass marks?
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4762 on: April 15, 2023, 02:26:38 PM »
That room got so quiet.

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4763 on: April 16, 2023, 04:19:05 PM »
Trump is now taking these Twitter rando's as drivers along with his motorcade.  :lol
https://twitter.com/dom_lucre/status/1647649715956088835

https://twitter.com/dom_lucre/status/1647398230651555840
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4764 on: April 16, 2023, 06:38:30 PM »
https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/1647717356355895303

The DeSantis campaign is falling apart because they don't know what do against Trump trashing Ron DeSanctimonious  :lol

https://twitter.com/sahilkapur/status/1647734560602439680
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4765 on: April 16, 2023, 07:57:50 PM »
guy is getting taken down by a stupid ass nickname  :mueller


you don't deserve the nomination if you can't overcome that tbh  :karen
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4766 on: April 16, 2023, 11:14:35 PM »
Guy claims he's going to "drain the swamp" and help workers while posting about how he's scared to death to tackle the debt. :neogaf

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4768 on: April 17, 2023, 03:13:07 AM »
guy is getting taken down by a stupid ass nickname  :mueller


you don't deserve the nomination if you can't overcome that tbh  :karen
Trump is unbeatable as a Republican.

Most Republicans try to smear their competition as a bigger piece of shit than they are, but Trump has just flat out admitted he's the biggest piece of shit going and uses that as his armour.

De Santis either has to prove he's a bigger piece of shit or prove that he's really really clean...and as evidence shows, every politician has some skeletons in the closet.

Trump wins because no one expects him to tell the truth and he can just lie his arse off about everything. De Santis is still playing the pre-Trump game where he thinks he needs to look and sound honest, but no one believes him because Trump killed truth in republican politics.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4769 on: April 17, 2023, 12:16:31 PM »
DeSantis learned nothing from how Trump destroyed little Marco
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4770 on: April 17, 2023, 12:41:53 PM »
It would help if he actually announced.

I think the folks running his campaign and PACs thought that Trump wouldn't attack him before he actually announced his candidacy.
They probably didn't think Trump would burn down the party he leads.  :lol
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4771 on: April 17, 2023, 02:20:42 PM »
DeSantis is too busy getting stunlocked by Mickey Mouse.
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4773 on: April 17, 2023, 04:52:26 PM »
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4774 on: April 17, 2023, 07:02:22 PM »
We need to arrest the groomers

https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1648026562422272006
Read the article, what a rollercoaster  :crazy

Especially the part where the guy figured he'd play along because it was just part of how to make it in politics :dead
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4775 on: April 17, 2023, 08:41:05 PM »


I probably would not choose to follow this legal advice.

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4776 on: April 17, 2023, 09:11:07 PM »
It would help if he actually announced.

I think the folks running his campaign and PACs thought that Trump wouldn't attack him before he actually announced his candidacy.
They probably didn't think Trump would burn down the party he leads.  :lol
They had four years to learn that Trump doesn't give a shit about the party. He will see it all burn if it means he gets to sit in the oval Office again and enrich his family while doing it.
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« Reply #4777 on: April 18, 2023, 07:09:50 AM »
You're right, Trump doesn't care about the party he cares about the people and will prevent WW3* and Make America Great Again, so no one will say the n-word again.

*the woke disaster of a movie wonder woman 3
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4778 on: April 18, 2023, 01:16:45 PM »
lmao, Trump is truely in rare form these days  :lol

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« Reply #4779 on: April 18, 2023, 04:17:37 PM »
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4780 on: April 18, 2023, 04:24:29 PM »
Kent Sperm-man who would hire such a sleazebag tells you all you need to know about Ron DeShamtis :trumps
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« Reply #4781 on: April 18, 2023, 04:27:15 PM »
lmao, Trump is truely in rare form these days  :lol

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Still amazes me that Trump, the most brilliant genius in the world, somehow hired all of these dumbest born losers in the world to his staff.
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« Reply #4785 on: April 19, 2023, 06:08:43 AM »
lil babby didn't know it was all wwe shid  :show
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4788 on: April 19, 2023, 04:33:04 PM »
Trump has a new policy just for you Himu  :)
https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1648465597263654912
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4789 on: April 19, 2023, 04:46:41 PM »
Didnt one of you say this would happen

Donald Trump Comes out in Support of Disney, Slams Ron DeSantis for Fighting Back

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/04/18/donald-trump-comes-out-in-support-of-disney-slams-ron-desantis-for-fighting-back-n732979
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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4790 on: April 19, 2023, 04:46:50 PM »
Trump has a new policy just for you Himu  :)
twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1648465597263654912
I'm pretty sure they already make tent cities on publicly owned land.

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« Reply #4791 on: April 19, 2023, 06:14:28 PM »
Didnt one of you say this would happen

Donald Trump Comes out in Support of Disney, Slams Ron DeSantis for Fighting Back

https://redstate.com/bonchie/2023/04/18/donald-trump-comes-out-in-support-of-disney-slams-ron-desantis-for-fighting-back-n732979
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Trump taking Disney’s side in its battle against DeSantis happened just days after Donald Trump Jr. urged conservatives to end an ongoing boycott against Bud Light. In both cases, it appears the Trumps are more worried about donor money than winning important cultural battles. That’s not exactly comforting given Trump is running on fighting and cleaning up Washington, DC. If he can’t stand firm against a company as blatantly woke as Disney, then that calls into question his resolve to face down any serious cultural challenge. If you aren’t even willing to face down Disney, you aren’t going to defeat the deep state.

"Look he wants to kill Mickey Mouse kids, can you imagine. Mickey Mouse DEAD and Disney Land losing all that wonderful magic. Daddy where is Mickey Mouse? He's dead son. The great and wonderful Goofy? Cancelled? No, beheaded by President DeSantis. Explain that one to your kids Ron! Trump would protect Disney. I'd call Disney, I'd get it sorted real quick. I'd just call Bob Disney who used to be a great friend of mine before I got into politics. I'd tell him to bring back The Beauty and the Beast, Aladdin and all the other great stories about a prince and princess or Ron's wife and the Milk Man"

*Ron DeSantis lunges towards Trump's lectern on the debate stage*
 
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« Reply #4793 on: April 19, 2023, 09:31:04 PM »
The Ralph Yarl and Kaylin Gillis cases have me moderating on guns.

I speak here as a pro-gun rights absolutist. Historically gun control laws have been used to limit black and Native America populations from self defense. They have historically racist and they're hard to support. Black people that fight for gun control are fools in my eyes. I don't think the AR-15 should be banned. I don't think any type of gun should be, in fact. But after this week I think we need licenses.

Shootings are one thing. They're committed by criminals with zero regard for rule of law or human ethics and you can never solve crime by just making things illegal. The alcohol prohibition and drug war prove that case. But this isn't about crime. It's about complete and utter firearm neglect.

People are acting like it's the wild west with little regulation is another thing entirely from just a mass shooting. Yeah "it's illegal to shoot without just cause" but why does an 84 year old man that lives by himself not have any testing of his mental capacity for owning a firearm? People regularly say elderly people should be retested for drivers licenses.

How in the heck do they not have the same energy for guns?

Without forced training the result is simply people that have no business with guns that don't respect the five rules or human life doing whatever they want with them. I shot my first gun when I was 8 years old in the Cub Scouts and I've always respected them because of that experience. Thinking you have the right to shoot just because someone rung the doorbell and is black and male or because a lady drove into your drive way is the opposite of respect for human life and gun ownership.

Requiring testing or at the very least having gun safety classes or something with something as ubiquitous as a deadly weapon would solve so much.

If we come to consider that abortion should be legal....to a point there's absolutely no reason to allow utter unhinged access to firearms.

License them.

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Re: USA Politics Thread |OT| Cleaning up the town
« Reply #4794 on: April 19, 2023, 09:57:18 PM »
Because we don't allow the state to strip people of their rights without due process and then require the victim to prove they deserve their rights back?

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« Reply #4795 on: April 19, 2023, 10:21:59 PM »
Benji, there's only two options here:

1. Teach children gun safety (including how to shoot and the five rules) at a young age

or

2. License them.

With a country that has more guns than people those are our choices. I want the first one to happen because it will normalize healthy gun use. Guns are a tool, nothing more.
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« Reply #4796 on: April 19, 2023, 10:33:00 PM »
Nah, those aren't our "only" options. We can just protect people's rights rather than have them stripped arbitrarily by unaccountable bureaucrats as part of some religious central plan.

You keep asking how the progressives win and it's because you "conservatives" accept all their false choices about how the state needs more unchecked power rather than conserving either human or constitutional rights. Next you're going to be saying I have to choose a license to make toast in my own damn toaster.

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« Reply #4797 on: April 20, 2023, 04:19:50 AM »
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« Reply #4798 on: April 20, 2023, 07:08:05 AM »
Nah, those aren't our "only" options. We can just protect people's rights rather than have them stripped arbitrarily by unaccountable bureaucrats as part of some religious central plan.

You keep asking how the progressives win and it's because you "conservatives" accept all their false choices about how the state needs more unchecked power rather than conserving either human or constitutional rights. Next you're going to be saying I have to choose a license to make toast in my own damn toaster.

Licenses aren't inherently bad. Your real problem isn't worth conservatives. It's with progressives that don't know when to stop or knowingly don't want to stop.
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« Reply #4799 on: April 20, 2023, 08:02:37 AM »
Having to acquire government permission before you're allowed to have rights that protect you from the same government is pretty inherently bad. You're arguing that you know when to stop when you're arguing for eliminating every constitutional right. :lol

Even if I grant your proposition that "conservatives" know when to stop, like when the W. Bush administration argued that it could suspend constitutional rights whenever it wanted to, the rest of your proposition argues against allowing it because there's no check on when the "progressives" take power and build on that like the Obama administration did when it argued that could murder any American citizen without trial whenever it wanted to.