Author Topic: Lets End This Once And For All. BEST STAR WARS PREQUEL (Read 3896 times)

Cheebs · « **on:** February 07, 2007, 05:07:02 PM »

I voted TPM.

Himu · « **Reply #1 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:07:34 PM »

No one cares.

Mupepe · « **Reply #2 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:09:39 PM »

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #3 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:11:31 PM »

This is equivalent to asking whether you like your turds brown, green, or ochre.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #4 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:11:52 PM »

I voted green turd.

whiteACID · « **Reply #5 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:15:32 PM »

Revenge of the Sith, though they all kinda sucked

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #6 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:19:47 PM »

revenge. who ever voted for clones should be shit on by a cheeseburger. He-she poop should get in their eyes.

TVC15 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:21:06 PM »

Phantom Menace is the worst. Most Jar Jar, Jake Lloyd, 20 minute podracing sequence, boring story that is apparently trying to conjure up political intrigue.

Clone Wars is bad, too, but at least the godawful romance shit is hilarious. And as pointed out to me, the Jedi/Clone battle was a good action sequence. Not Yoda though. Who wanted to see a fucking 3d Yoda spaz out? Gaaaaaaaaay.

The last movie was also really bad. Well, that's unfair. It's really mediocre and it seems interminable. It doesn't adequately explain the motives for certain actions. It is lengthy, but there are a number of action sequences that aren't boring. In short, the movie is pack, end to end, like they had so much stuff to get into it (and they did). It's just that as the conclusion to a shitty trilogy, you're not going to strike gold. So yeah, it wrapped things up the best it could, but it's the product of what happens when the best just isn't very good.

Himu · « **Reply #8 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:22:07 PM »

Where is the THEY ALL SUCK option?

Mupepe · « **Reply #9 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:22:55 PM »

Man, no way. The only thing that saved AOTC was the Yoda fight. I never got past the first 45 minutes of ROTS. TPM was fucking horribly too. But I saw it when I was a lot younger and my immaturity made it easier to digest. I haven't seen it since.

Nostalgia told me to choose TPM.

Himu · « **Reply #10 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:23:33 PM »

The Yoda fight makes AotC the best Star Wars prequel.

Himu · « **Reply #11 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:24:26 PM »

TPM was the last movie my friend Z went to see in theatres and I went with him, so it's a prized movie for me, despite the fact it's utter shit. Sucks his last movie was the phantom fucking menace. Should have at least been Matrix.

TVC15 · « **Reply #12 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:25:44 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on February 07, 2007, 05:23:33 PM

The Yoda fight makes AotC the best Star Wars prequel.

WTF? You people are distinguished mentally-challenged. Making Yoda hop around like a fucking toad on ritalin was ridiculous in the non-good way. It was also some of the worst CG in the trilogy. Badass Kungfu Yoda was lame. He should've been an Emperor-style, a lot of power without having to pull off theatrical fight moves.

Himu · « **Reply #13 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:26:09 PM »

Who cares? He was a ninja. Ninjas rock.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #14 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:26:39 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on February 07, 2007, 05:24:26 PM

TPM was the last movie my friend Z went to see in theatres and I went with him, so it's a prized movie for me, despite the fact it's utter shit. Sucks his last movie was the phantom fucking menace. Should have at least been Matrix.

he just stopped seeing movies in theaters or did something happen to him?

Himu · « **Reply #15 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:26:53 PM »

Quote from: Father_Mike on February 07, 2007, 05:26:39 PM

Quote from: Himuro on February 07, 2007, 05:24:26 PM
TPM was the last movie my friend Z went to see in theatres and I went with him, so it's a prized movie for me, despite the fact it's utter shit. Sucks his last movie was the phantom fucking menace. Should have at least been Matrix.

he just stopped seeing movies in theaters or did something happen to him?

He died like 2 weeks after it came out.

Mupepe · « **Reply #16 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:28:03 PM »

Quote from: Father_Mike on February 07, 2007, 05:26:39 PM

Quote from: Himuro on February 07, 2007, 05:24:26 PM
TPM was the last movie my friend Z went to see in theatres and I went with him, so it's a prized movie for me, despite the fact it's utter shit. Sucks his last movie was the phantom fucking menace. Should have at least been Matrix.

he just stopped seeing movies in theaters or did something happen to him?

He enjoyed huffing paint and gas fumes.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #17 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:28:16 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on February 07, 2007, 05:26:53 PM

Quote from: Father_Mike on February 07, 2007, 05:26:39 PM
Quote from: Himuro on February 07, 2007, 05:24:26 PM
TPM was the last movie my friend Z went to see in theatres and I went with him, so it's a prized movie for me, despite the fact it's utter shit. Sucks his last movie was the phantom fucking menace. Should have at least been Matrix.

he just stopped seeing movies in theaters or did something happen to him?

He died like 2 weeks after it came out.

Himu · « **Reply #18 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:30:42 PM »

Quote from: Mupepe on February 07, 2007, 05:28:03 PM

Quote from: Father_Mike on February 07, 2007, 05:26:39 PM
Quote from: Himuro on February 07, 2007, 05:24:26 PM
TPM was the last movie my friend Z went to see in theatres and I went with him, so it's a prized movie for me, despite the fact it's utter shit. Sucks his last movie was the phantom fucking menace. Should have at least been Matrix.

he just stopped seeing movies in theaters or did something happen to him?
He enjoyed huffing paint and gas fumes.

Yeah what a dumbass.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #19 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:42:33 PM »

wait he really died from that? thats sad. and you and mupepe know eachother or the same people in real life?

Himu · « **Reply #20 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:43:02 PM »

Quote from: Father_Mike on February 07, 2007, 05:42:33 PM

wait he really died from that? thats sad. and you and mupepe know eachother or the same people in real life?

we've known each other since 7th grade.

and yes, he did.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #21 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:43:06 PM »

TPM had the best music.

Cheebs · « **Reply #22 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:45:35 PM »

yoda spazz fighting sucked but the yoda fight in ROTS was MUCH better. Fighting in the senate>fighting in bug land

and palpatine > dooku.

So that as a reason to pick AOTC makes no sense when it was outdone in ROTS.

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #23 on:** February 07, 2007, 05:48:47 PM »

RotS winning, apparently I'm not the only distinguished mentally-challenged one here.

TVC15 · « **Reply #24 on:** February 07, 2007, 06:02:18 PM »

Quote from: Cheebs on February 07, 2007, 05:45:35 PM

yoda spazz fighting sucked but the yoda fight in ROTS was MUCH better. Fighting in the senate>fighting in bug land

I forgot about the senate fight scene. That was actually done well, I agree.

And we were just discussing this with some coworkers at lunch: Why does Count Dooku even exist? He really doesn't serve up much of a purpose. It's a Waste of Cristopher Lee, which I believe is a federal offense.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #25 on:** February 07, 2007, 06:14:19 PM »

The Senate fight scene was beyond distinguished mentally-challenged! It was fuckin' platforming sequence with silly faces!

TVC15 · « **Reply #26 on:** February 07, 2007, 06:16:03 PM »

Quote from: Drinky Crow on February 07, 2007, 06:14:19 PM

The Senate fight scene was beyond distinguished mentally-challenged! It was fuckin' platforming sequence with silly faces!

It was better than the aotc yoda fight scene.

Cheebs · « **Reply #27 on:** February 07, 2007, 06:17:00 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on February 07, 2007, 06:02:18 PM

Quote from: Cheebs on February 07, 2007, 05:45:35 PM
yoda spazz fighting sucked but the yoda fight in ROTS was MUCH better. Fighting in the senate>fighting in bug land

I forgot about the senate fight scene. That was actually done well, I agree.

And we were just discussing this with some coworkers at lunch: Why does Count Dooku even exist? He really doesn't serve up much of a purpose. It's a Waste of Cristopher Lee, which I believe is a federal offense.

From my understanding Christopher Lee wanted to be in Star Wars since his best friend was in star wars (peter cushing) and I think the role was created just for him ala Mace Windu only existing cause Jackson wanted to be in Star Wars.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #28 on:** February 07, 2007, 06:17:44 PM »

That's fucking hilarious.

Cheebs · « **Reply #29 on:** February 07, 2007, 06:19:34 PM »

I mean come on there was no reason for Sam Jackson to be in star wars other than him asking lucas to make a character for him. There is no reason why there needed to a mace windu character at all.

Hell Lucas invented a new lightsaber color just because sam jackson said so.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #30 on:** February 07, 2007, 06:20:44 PM »

Quote from: Cheebs on February 07, 2007, 06:19:34 PM

I mean come on there was no reason for Sam Jackson to be in star wars other than Sam Jackson asking lucas to make a character for him.

Hell Lucas invented a new lightsaber color just because sam jackson said so.

Well, I always suspected Samuel L. Jackson's part was just added on, but Christopher Lee's too? Wow.

Cheebs · « **Reply #31 on:** February 07, 2007, 06:23:08 PM »

I don't know exactly but I am pretty sure that is why I heard. Which is also why he is a Count. References back to his days of playing Count Dracula.

TVC15 · « **Reply #32 on:** February 07, 2007, 06:25:50 PM »

Quote from: Cheebs on February 07, 2007, 06:23:08 PM

I don't know exactly but I am pretty sure that is why I heard. Which is also why he is a Count. References back to his days of playing Count Dracula.

IIRC, in ref to Sam Jackson, wasn't Mace Windu the original name for the main character of Star Wars in the very first treatment?

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #33 on:** February 07, 2007, 06:36:27 PM »

The Phantom Menace wins the best of the worst, and it's not even a contest.

Cheebs · « **Reply #34 on:** February 07, 2007, 06:37:27 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on February 07, 2007, 06:25:50 PM

Quote from: Cheebs on February 07, 2007, 06:23:08 PM
I don't know exactly but I am pretty sure that is why I heard. Which is also why he is a Count. References back to his days of playing Count Dracula.

IIRC, in ref to Sam Jackson, wasn't Mace Windu the original name for the main character of Star Wars in the very first treatment?

Not the main character but one of them yeah. Planet names used in the prequels and stuff were in the original script as well. It has nothing to do with the character that was in the prequels, he just re-used a old name rather than inventing a new one.

The whole chosen one prophecy stuff and Palpatine being a senator and rising and taking control was also in the original stuff IIRC.

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #35 on:** February 07, 2007, 06:41:20 PM »

Quote from: Willco on February 07, 2007, 06:36:27 PM

The Phantom Menace wins the best of the worst, and it's not even a contest.

The Phantom Menace - 5 (38.5%)
Attack of the Clones    - 1 (7.7%)
Revenge of the Sith    - 7 (53.8%)


*ahem*

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #36 on:** February 07, 2007, 06:41:59 PM »

We do cater to a teenage demographic, and there's no accounting for taste, reality, etc. with them. You know what I mean.

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #37 on:** February 07, 2007, 06:43:30 PM »

Quote from: Willco on February 07, 2007, 06:41:59 PM

We do cater to a teenage demographic, and there's no accounting for taste, reality, etc. with them. You know what I mean.

You're saying we have no taste?

Cheebs · « **Reply #38 on:** February 07, 2007, 06:45:57 PM »

If I must say the worst thing Lucas has EVER DONE was the fact he ended the friendship h had with Lawrence Kasdan.

Kasdan was the one who took Lucas's storyline for ESB and Raiders of the Lost Ark and turned them into a script. Both films are probably the best Lucas was involved in. Kasdan became the go-to-guy. But when Kasdan was doing ROTJ he felt after working on multiple films with lucas he had the leeway to put in his own storyline ideas. He came up with killing Han which Ford was for and Lucas got very angry over the idea of him wanting to alter the story. Because of this Lucas did not work with Kasdan ever again and would only hire script writers who would not alter his stories.

If Lucas didn't get pissed off about the Han death nonsense Kasdan may have saved the prequels.

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #39 on:** February 07, 2007, 06:47:43 PM »

Coulda, woulda, shoulda. Lucas should have had a director with actual skill do the prequels, someone with both a love for the originals and a knack for telling a good story write the scripts, etc.

What did we get? Crap. Pure, masturbatory crap.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #40 on:** February 07, 2007, 06:50:19 PM »

I think RotS was the best because the story cause it didnt' have a shitty ending and there was lots of kiling.

Star Wars is a crap franchise when you think about it though.

Cheebs · « **Reply #41 on:** February 07, 2007, 06:51:47 PM »

Quote from: am nintenho on February 07, 2007, 06:50:19 PM

I think RotS was the best because the story cause it didnt' have a shitty ending and there was lots of kiling.

Star Wars is a crap franchise when you think about it though.

well the ending was just showing off stuff from one of the good movies. Luke, Leia, Vader on a Star Destroyer. Who could mess that up?

brawndolicious · « **Reply #42 on:** February 07, 2007, 07:02:23 PM »

Quote from: Cheebs on February 07, 2007, 06:51:47 PM

well the ending was just showing off stuff from one of the good movies. Luke, Leia, Vader on a Star Destroyer. Who could mess that up?

Yeah but every other ending left too many questions.

TPM: Tells you nearly nothing about the Sith.
AotC: A firefight and a marriage are literally the whole movie.
RotS: I get the story now.
ANH: Death star's dead but rebels are still the dark side's bitch.
ESB: WTF? Is Vader supposed to be good or bad?
RoJ: JUST HORRIBLE.

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #43 on:** February 07, 2007, 07:10:39 PM »

18:40] <TheDarkShake> now that i think about it, TPM is probably one of the most boring films I've ever sat through
[18:40] <JunpeiNeverLies> tpm?
[18:41] <G> The phantom menace
[18:41] <TheDarkShake> yup
[18:41] <G> or for those that dont know what that is. Starwars Prequel Number suck ass
[18:41] <TheDarkShake> heh
[18:42] <G> i actuallyed liked attack of the clones, but the clone wars were so wasted. I think the prequels really should have focused more on the clone wars
[18:42] <amnintenho> RotS was the only one I really liked
[18:43] <amnintenho> I honestly think that's the best star wars movie
[18:43] <amnintenho> KOTOR is so much better then all of them though...
[18:43] <TheDarkShake> AotC was paced a bit better, but it was definitely the most wince-inducing of the Prequels
[18:43] <TheDarkShake> ugh
[18:43] <amnintenho> The acting in AotC was soooo horrible
[18:43] <JunpeiNeverLies> i gots to go laters guys
[18:43] *** JunpeiNeverLies has left #evilbore
[18:43] <amnintenho> "I"
[18:43] <amnintenho> "Love"
[18:43] <amnintenho> "You"
[18:44] <amnintenho> *they stare at each other for 5 seconds*
[18:44] <G> i think padme was casted well but anakin wasnt
[18:44] *** etoilet has quit (Ping timeout)
[18:44] <TheDarkShake> I CANT FALL IN LOVE, I AM AN UBER JEDI
[18:44] <TheDarkShake> I MUST... FIGHT... LOOOVE
[18:44] <amnintenho> Yeah he was horrible
[18:45] <G> and i couldnt really follow from young annie to teen annie especially when padme didnt change
[18:45] <amnintenho> the padme actor wasn't bad but anakin was shit
[18:45] <TheDarkShake> honestly, i was just about to walk out of AotC, but then the big "war" scene happened
[18:45] <TheDarkShake> e
[18:45] <amnintenho> young one was actually interesting
[18:45] <amnintenho> old one was fucking annoying
[18:45] <G> see that stuff in the begining of RotS should have been what all of Attack of the clones should have been
[18:45] <TheDarkShake> yup yup
[18:45] <amnintenho> It wouldn't have made sense
[18:46] <amnintenho> he was baited to be bad
[18:46] <TheDarkShake> instead, we got a two hour middle school romatic production
[18:46] <TheDarkShake>

[18:46] <G> exactly but it does have some of the better actions sequences
[18:46] <amnintenho> They really need to do a "director's cut" where they add like ten times more action and decent acting to AotC
[18:46] <TheDarkShake> the onl thing i liked about AotC was boba's dad getting his head cut off
[18:46] <G> RotS is my favorite though just for that begining scene and the cuts to the other planets and order 66
[18:46] <TheDarkShake> that was an awesome character moment for boba
[18:47] <amnintenho> order 66?
[18:47] <TheDarkShake> the order 66 scene makes RotS my favorite too
[18:47] <TheDarkShake> actually had some emotion
[18:47] <amnintenho> isn't boba a clone of his dad?
[18:47] <TheDarkShake> yeah
[18:47] <amnintenho> what's order 66?
[18:47] <G> yes it had this great sense of emotion that was lacking so much from starwars
[18:47] <G> Nintenho not a geek
[18:47] <TheDarkShake> all of the storm troopers are, apparentoly
[18:47] <TheDarkShake> lamwe
[18:47] <amnintenho> the killing of the jedi?
[18:47] <TheDarkShake> *lame
[18:48] <G> yes nintenho
[18:48] <amnintenho> oh
[18:48] <amnintenho> that was executive order 66
[18:48] <TheDarkShake> CARRY OUT.... ORDDDERRRRR... SIXTY SIIIIIIX
[18:48] <G> OH JEEZ
[18:48] <amnintenho> I'm pulling that out of my ass
[18:49] <G> I wish i could forget the prequels exist. And even the cutesy shit in RotJ get the fucking wookies on endor like it was meant to be
[18:50] <amnintenho> they're on kashyyk
[18:50] <amnintenho> cooler planet though

TVC15 · « **Reply #44 on:** February 07, 2007, 07:16:29 PM »

Quote from: Cheebs on February 07, 2007, 06:37:27 PM

Quote from: TVC 15 on February 07, 2007, 06:25:50 PM
Quote from: Cheebs on February 07, 2007, 06:23:08 PM
I don't know exactly but I am pretty sure that is why I heard. Which is also why he is a Count. References back to his days of playing Count Dracula.

IIRC, in ref to Sam Jackson, wasn't Mace Windu the original name for the main character of Star Wars in the very first treatment?
Not the main character but one of them yeah. Planet names used in the prequels and stuff were in the original script as well. It has nothing to do with the character that was in the prequels, he just re-used a old name rather than inventing a new one.

The whole chosen one prophecy stuff and Palpatine being a senator and rising and taking control was also in the original stuff IIRC.

I remember going on a binge and reading all the early writing Lucas did, and I recall some of it being like, IDENTICAL to Kurosawa.

Cheebs · « **Reply #45 on:** February 07, 2007, 08:39:06 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on February 07, 2007, 07:16:29 PM

Quote from: Cheebs on February 07, 2007, 06:37:27 PM
Quote from: TVC 15 on February 07, 2007, 06:25:50 PM
Quote from: Cheebs on February 07, 2007, 06:23:08 PM
I don't know exactly but I am pretty sure that is why I heard. Which is also why he is a Count. References back to his days of playing Count Dracula.

IIRC, in ref to Sam Jackson, wasn't Mace Windu the original name for the main character of Star Wars in the very first treatment?
Not the main character but one of them yeah. Planet names used in the prequels and stuff were in the original script as well. It has nothing to do with the character that was in the prequels, he just re-used a old name rather than inventing a new one.

The whole chosen one prophecy stuff and Palpatine being a senator and rising and taking control was also in the original stuff IIRC.

I remember going on a binge and reading all the early writing Lucas did, and I recall some of it being like, IDENTICAL to Kurosawa.

Yep. Lots of Kurosawa rip off's and anakin being weirdly more of a bible/jesus rip off than he ended up being.

I mean what in the world is this?

"... And in the time of greatest
despair there shall come a savior,
and he shall be known as:
THE SON OF THE SUNS."
Journal of the Whills, 3:127

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #46 on:** February 07, 2007, 10:27:26 PM »

Quote from: MrAngryFace on February 07, 2007, 05:43:06 PM

TPM had the best music.

I dunno, I love the Anakin/Obi Wan duel theme from ROTS

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #47 on:** February 07, 2007, 10:39:27 PM »

Which was contrived and contained cues ripped directly from ESB

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #48 on:** February 07, 2007, 10:41:13 PM »

I'm talking about the music, not the battle

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #49 on:** February 07, 2007, 10:42:34 PM »

Looking back, the only good thing about all the prequels was the Darth Maul fight at the end of TPM. Epic battle. Shame he had to die.

It was such a bummer watching that movie in the theatre though. Everything about it was wrong. My BFF and I were kind of in stunned silence once we left the theatre .. we were so amped for it and left kind of numb at what we witnessed. I never did watch AOTC in the theatre ... I waited until it hit HBO. I just knew it was going to be all downhill from there.

Nick · « **Reply #50 on:** February 07, 2007, 11:41:06 PM »

I used to be the biggest Star Wars fan of all time. Entire room was decorated with SW paraphernalia, and I even had the original VHS tapes signed by Mark Hammill. It was my life for about five years.

And then I turned twelve.

So I vote that every SW movie is a C- at best. Bad acting.

Solo · « **Reply #51 on:** February 08, 2007, 06:51:20 AM »

I cannot fathom that there are people out there that actually like these movies.

Cheebs · « **Reply #52 on:** February 08, 2007, 08:24:56 AM »

Quote from: Solo on February 08, 2007, 06:51:20 AM

I cannot fathom that there are people out there that actually like these movies.

I don't know if people kept going because they LIKED them its more "a new star wars movie is out, guess we have to go see it".

Star Wars is part of american culture and it's almost like you have to go to star wars when a new one is it out.

Solo · « **Reply #53 on:** February 08, 2007, 01:58:06 PM »

If that's the case, I am glad to be Canadian more than ever.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #54 on:** February 08, 2007, 03:19:30 PM »

My absolute-never-gonna-happen dream job is to have the oppertunity to remake the prequals.

Boogie · « **Reply #55 on:** February 08, 2007, 03:30:50 PM »

Yoda fighting was distinguished mentally-challenged.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #56 on:** February 08, 2007, 03:33:09 PM »

Quote from: Boogie on February 08, 2007, 03:30:50 PM

Yoda fighting was distinguished mentally-challenged.

I agree, yoda should have been able to walk in and then one of two things should have happened. 1. Count Dooku shits himself and runs, or 2. Count Dooku explodes from Yoda's force powers.

Cheebs · « **Reply #57 on:** February 08, 2007, 03:35:59 PM »

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on February 08, 2007, 03:19:30 PM

My absolute-never-gonna-happen dream job is to have the oppertunity to remake the prequals.

No one will be able to ever, for better or for worse. Seeing how it was a independent film project with no studio involvement outside of distribution means that Star Wars lives and dies with the Lucas family. Not like Star Trek or even LOTR where someone can meddle with it in 20+ years.

In a way I am glad Star Wars was done independently meaning no one outside Lucas has ownership over it. Purely because if Fox owned it they'd turn it into Star Trek or the Alien franchise and run it into the ground.

You hate the prequels? Imagine one every damn year. That's what would have happened.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #58 on:** February 08, 2007, 03:37:33 PM »

I know, but they would be so fucking bad ass if I made them. No medichlorian shit.

Cheebs · « **Reply #59 on:** February 08, 2007, 03:38:10 PM »

The only thing worse than Star Wars done by George Lucas is star wars done by a fanboy.

News:

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Author Topic: Lets End This Once And For All. BEST STAR WARS PREQUEL (Read 3896 times)