Author Topic: BEST KUBRICK MOVIE EVER (Read 5986 times)

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #60 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:39:53 PM »

Don't bring up SoaP, you'll just get Willco excited again.

You see, in my book, 10/10 equates to calling a film a flawless masterpiece. Raiders is most certainly not, no matter which way you slice it.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #61 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:40:18 PM »

Quote from: The Dark Shake on February 11, 2007, 01:37:52 PM

Oh, please. You know there are legions of nerds who will place Raiders above just about any film ever made, save for Star Wars.

No, not really. The "nerd legions" represent a fraction of that Indy audience too, which was my point made at Drinky. Internet geeks really don't do much business at the box office. They're vocal and make a lot of noise, but when dollars count - theirs count the least.

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #62 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:40:59 PM »

Tell that to George Lucas.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #63 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:41:58 PM »

You think Internet geeks were the only ones that watched Star Wars?

I guess that's why the original was nominated for Best Picture or that the score played on the radio or that the prequels audience make-up was mostly FAMILIES.

Again, Internet geeks are vocal - they don't make films money.

Himu · « **Reply #64 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:42:40 PM »

I loved Full Metal Jacket, and from what I've seen of 2001, I love that movie too. I'm loving me some Kubrick and those are the only films of his I've seen but I plan on seeing the rest.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #65 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:43:08 PM »

Where on earth am I talking about Internet geeks?

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #66 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:43:13 PM »

So you're trying to tell me geeks make up a fraction of the people who paid to see the prequels in theaters?

Geeks, children, and a few scattered cinema hounds made Lucas his money. Fact.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #67 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:43:27 PM »

I was directing that at Shake, not you.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #68 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:45:39 PM »

Quote from: The Dark Shake on February 11, 2007, 01:43:13 PM

So you're trying to tell me geeks make up a fraction of the people who paid to see the prequels in theaters?

Uh, duh.

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Geeks, children, and a few scattered cinema hounds made Lucas his money. Fact.

Uh, that's not a fact. Children, families and teenagers made Lucas his money. Not geeks. Now, geeks can fall into some of those categories, but geeks alone do not make movies money. They don't. It's great when you can win 'em over to your side, but you don't need 'em.

Star Wars is a pop culture phenomenon. My parents saw the prequels. My younger sibilings saw the prequels. My grandparents saw the prequels. It wasn't a geek event for anyone after opening night, dude.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #69 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:46:10 PM »

Quote from: The Dark Shake on February 11, 2007, 01:39:53 PM

Don't bring up SoaP, you'll just get Willco excited again.

You see, in my book, 10/10 equates to calling a film a flawless masterpiece. Raiders is most certainly not, no matter which way you slice it.

That's a valid way of looking at things. With Raiders imo, the "flaws" in the movie don't matter as much as they would in a movie like Godfather or Citizen Kane, which rely on great acting and a steller script. An adventure movie doesn't necessarily require those things in spades to be good. It would be like complaining about Lion King because it's "unrealistic" or "childish"; it's a fucking cartoon lol, the same rules don't apply.

At least, that's how I look at it

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #70 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:46:31 PM »

Now geeks do make Lucas money in merchandise, which is what I said like a page ago, and you wonder which one is more profitable. That's another discussion.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #71 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:47:04 PM »

Good Lord, I'm agreeing with Shake: a 10/10 is reserved for a technical masterpiece, and Spielberg is a perfectly consistent 7/10 director when it comes to technical quality. Of course, the AICN/Wilco/FoC film student set hates that, because it means most comic book movies, which have ticket sales and little else to qualify them, will never reach that echelon. OH TEH NO!

I don't consider "accessibility" a sterling directorial quality, anyhow, The best movies require people change to consider them, and that requires abandoning some of the familiar and comfortable and actually pushing the boundaries of technical style.

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #72 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:47:28 PM »

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #73 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:47:39 PM »

When did I say Raiders was classic, nor had any flaws? I never said that, nor did I argue that point.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #74 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:48:41 PM »

Quote from: Drinky Crow on February 11, 2007, 01:47:04 PM

Good Lord, I'm agreeing with Shake: a 10/10 is reserved for a technical masterpiece, and Spielberg is a 7/10 director when it comes to technical quality. Of course, the AICN/Wilco/FoC film student set hates that, because it means most comic book movies, which have ticket sales and little else to qualify them, will never reach that echelon. OH TEH NO!

I don't consider "accessibility" a sterling directorial quality, anyhow, The best movies require people change to consider them, and that requires abandoning some of the familiar and comfortable and actually pushing the boundaries of technical style.

I disagree. Halloween 1 is a perfect horror movie, but from a film perspective it's far from perfect.

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #75 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:49:13 PM »

Quote from: Willco on February 11, 2007, 01:47:39 PM

When did I say Raiders was classic, nor had any flaws? I never said that, nor did I argue that point.

But others do, and you jumped to defend them. So pipe down if you don't actually agree with them.

PD: The original Halloween is far more "perfect" than Raiders, imo.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #76 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:49:18 PM »

Where did I say this wasn't going to be a banner year for Drinky Crow elitism!

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #77 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:49:27 PM »

Yeah, from a film perspective it's Halloween 3 that is perfect.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #78 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:50:29 PM »

Quote from: The Dark Shake on February 11, 2007, 01:49:13 PM

But others do, and you jumped to defend them. So pipe down if you don't actually agree with them.

Uh, no I didn't. Both you and Drinky made inaccurate statements, although Drinky made a far better case for his original argument then you did. You're just all hyperbole and immaturity.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #79 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:51:09 PM »

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I disagree. Halloween 1 is a perfect horror movie, but from a film perspective it's far from perfect.

Halloween 1 isn't a perfect horror movie, much less a good one, and makes an awful template. A classic should stand apart, even from its imitators, and Halloween is largely unwatchable these days, it's so dull. More Session 9s and less cheeseball slasher flicks, anyhow!

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #80 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:52:18 PM »

The original Halloween rocks, Drinky. You shut your dirty whore mouth. I do agree with you on one point, because it's not the template for the slasher genre. That goes to Black Christmas.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #81 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:55:05 PM »

I don't even like slasher movies but the first Halloween movie is steller. Made me suspicious of my little brothers

Himu · « **Reply #82 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:58:03 PM »

Jacob's Ladder is the best horror film ever, and my favorite movie.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #83 on:** February 11, 2007, 01:58:46 PM »

Quote from: Himuro on February 11, 2007, 01:58:03 PM

Jacob's Ladder is the best horror film ever, and my favorite movie.

Alien is my favorite simply because it freaks the shit out of me

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #84 on:** February 11, 2007, 02:03:06 PM »

Jacob's Ladder

Himuro, for advocating that classic, I forgive you watching an animu of your choice

Alien is also awesome

and to keep this on topic, The Shining is great largely for Nicholson's dead-on -- literally! lolz -- performance.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #85 on:** February 11, 2007, 02:06:58 PM »

Yea Alien scared me like crazy. It might not be a traditional horror movie, but it's far more effective than any horror movie I've seen. I'm not afraid of some mummy with a kitchen knife "chasing" me. I know to NOT go in the house and NEVER listen to my white friends when they say it's safe. Jason never killed nobody on the bus

But the idea of being impregnated by an insectoid freaks me out, especially since there are insects that actually do that to smaller animals.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #86 on:** February 11, 2007, 02:08:08 PM »

Jacob's Ladder is great, but it's not in the same subgenre as Halloween. It's like comparing apples to oranges. Alien comes the closest, but it's really horror sci-fi. I love Alien, though.

Eh, I think The Shining is okay. It's not very faithful to the source material, in my opinion.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #87 on:** February 11, 2007, 02:08:47 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 02:06:58 PM

Jason never killed nobody on the bus.

Yes, but he did kill people on a boat!

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #88 on:** February 11, 2007, 02:09:03 PM »

ohhh, nerds and their categorizations and canons

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #89 on:** February 11, 2007, 02:09:53 PM »

Quote from: Willco on February 11, 2007, 02:08:47 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on February 11, 2007, 02:06:58 PM
Jason never killed nobody on the bus.

Yes, but he did kill people on a boat!

Luckily black people are afraid of the water

Bacon · « **Reply #90 on:** February 11, 2007, 02:10:46 PM »

Clockwork is the best. Full Metal Jacket is best during the bootcamp stuff. The rest isn't as good.

Eyes Wide Shut rules too cause of all the orgy shit, especially in the Euro cuts. Nicole Kidman's ass looked delicious in it.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #91 on:** February 11, 2007, 02:11:12 PM »

Willco: the source material for The Shining isn't very good. Frankly, I think slavish adherence to a novel's plot and characterizations typifies an unambitious director. Even Spielberg didn't stick to PKD's Minority Report, which is the case of a mediocre director translating from a brilliant writer's work, unlike the opposite with The Shining, and it turned out to at least be, well, accessible.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #92 on:** February 11, 2007, 02:37:51 PM »

Spielberg is a mediocre director? That's laughable.

I'm not saying King's novel is classic literature, but I felt the movie would've been better served to use more of its cues. As is, it's just okay. I find nothing frightening about it.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #93 on:** February 11, 2007, 02:39:04 PM »

apparently you've never had a family!

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #94 on:** February 11, 2007, 02:39:35 PM »

I'm 23-years-old, so of course not. What, do you think I'm hispanic?

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #95 on:** February 11, 2007, 02:42:23 PM »

okay, i

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Flannel Boy · « **Reply #96 on:** February 11, 2007, 02:43:34 PM »

Quote from: Willco on February 11, 2007, 02:39:35 PM

I'm 23-years-old, so of course not. What, do you think I'm hispanic?

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #97 on:** February 11, 2007, 03:24:29 PM »

Quote from: Willco on February 11, 2007, 02:39:35 PM

I'm 23-years-old, so of course not. What, do you think I'm hispanic?

I've got some catching up to do.

Polari · « **Reply #98 on:** February 11, 2007, 08:47:29 PM »

Paths of Glory. I haven't seen The Killing yet though.

ferrarimanf355 · « **Reply #99 on:** February 11, 2007, 09:05:18 PM »

Quote from: whiteACID on February 11, 2007, 12:53:20 PM

Full Metal Jacket

Probably my favorite movie ever

Ditto. Anyone who disagrees with this gets a big, "WHAT IS YOUR MAJOR MALFUNCTION, NUMBNUTS?!?!?!?!?!"

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Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #100 on:** February 11, 2007, 10:17:40 PM »

clock work. its one of my favorite movies. but I haven't watched it in months because I have memories of a girl attached to it. :'( Fucking Rachel messing up how great clockwork is!

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #101 on:** February 12, 2007, 07:51:04 AM »

Yeah! Fuck Rachel! :'(

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