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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #480 on: April 08, 2007, 02:10:38 AM »
The Prestige (Nolan, 2006)

Wow. Just...wow. I'm almost speechless. Finally I have seen a movie that kept me on the edge of my seat for what seemed like hours, all leading up to a magnificent climax of brilliance. And for once I actually saw it coming. This is not only one of the best movies I've seen in some time, but perhaps the best movie of 2006. Yes, the biggest Departed fan on this messageboard just might, just might, have to revise his best of 2006 list.

The Prestige is an intelligent film that shines on so many levels. As I always like to do, let's start with the basics. The acting in this movie is quite impressive for the most part. Michael Caine truly shines, and his role as the wise mentor-type suits him fine, as it did in Batman Returns. Christian Bale's preformance as the obsessed and fragile Borden also stands out. I really like Hugh Jackman, mainly due to his perfect adaptation of Wolverine in the X-Men movies, and he does a good job here as well; but still, I couldn't help but feel that his preformance was rather weak in some of the more emotionally dramatic scenes. David Bowie and the great Andy Serkis both added great depth to the supporting character roles.

It's not hard to understand why the movie was nominated for the best screenplay Oscar; it's intellegent without being pretentious, yet it entertains at the same time with a sharp wit. The movie jumps around a lot, which could lead to some confusion, but that's where the brilliance shines through; on many occassions I felt as if a light switched on in my head as I finally "got it", and once that happened I was hooked.

At the core The Prestige is a tale of rivalry and deception. Yet unlike other movies or even books that share this similarity, the lines between good and evil are quite muddied. There is no character you could definitively classify as the "good guy" or "bad guy", as both go to ruthless ends to achieve their goal. This goal is somewhat simple: to preform the greatest magic trick ever seen. But is it a trick?

But there is more than one trick here. The movie contains many slight hints at the true secret, yet even once the full hand is shown you can't help but be amazed.

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I must say, I was able to determine the twist early. Once Jackman saw the cat and hat duplicates a light turned on in my head, and I realized there was more to Bale's "assistant" than met the eye. Even before that the main clue was given by Johansson's character when she revealed that Borden (Bale's character) had lots of makeup and wigs back stage. It became clear that he was indeed a duplicate; this also explained the differences in demenor shown by Borden.

The last confirmation came when Borden began prepping his assistant on taking his daughter to the zoo, and mentioning his wife suspected something. But despite catching this early, I was very interested when the movie kept going, without revealing this. For a second I wondered if I was wrong. But no. Then Jackman got control of the machine and even more hints dropped. For instance, after every use of the machine Caine would be seen carting a big box off into a warehouse. What was in the box? Bodies, as the end showed. Borden met Tesla first, but Angier (Jackman's character) used the technique the most - countless times. I think they said something like he had the show 100 times but I don't remember.

The one thing I didn't get was why Caine helped Borden in the end.
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In conclusion, The Prestige definitely lived up to the hype and is one of the best new movies I've seen in awhile. It would be a crime for me to not watch it again. After that I should be able to determine whether it's better than The Departed or not; currently I'm leaning towards The Departed, but oh man...I'm torn. Either way both are great movies in my eyes.

9.5/10
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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #481 on: April 08, 2007, 02:15:06 AM »
OMG A PD REVIEW I AGREE WITH
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« Reply #482 on: April 08, 2007, 08:41:44 AM »
Grindhouse (Rodriguez/Tarantino, 2007) - 8.5/10

First and foremost: how hot is Rose McGowan in Planet Terror? Yowza!

How would I describe Grindhouse, the new collaboration between best friends and filmmakers Robert Rodriguez and Quentin Tarantino, paying homage to the cheap, cheesey, exploitation grindhouse movies of years past? I would say that one film is an adrenaline-charged, but forgettable piece of trashy fun, while the other film shattered all expectations, becoming a certifiable masterpiece in the process. This was an interesting idea on paper, but the final result was so much more than could ever have been expected.

Things opened up with Rodriguez's "Planet Terror", a pastiche of zombie flicks, dark comedy, and over-the-top action. This movie is definately a blast, if wholly unoriginal. What I really loved about this one is that, blatant CGI and comedy aside, it felt like a classic John Carpenter movie - which I believe was Rodriguez's goal. Everything from the way it was shot, to the locations, and especially the awesome score, felt like it was straight out of a Carpenter flick circa 1980. Rose McGowan rocks this one completely, and awesome supporting work is turned in from journeymen like Michael Parks, Jeff Fahey, and the ever-awesome Michael Biehn. There were also problems with this movie, though. The excessive CGI usage felt tacky and totally betrayed the idea behind a grindhouse flick. The movie, despite lasting only 80 minutes, actually felt like it ran on far too long. Finally, Tarantino should never be allowed to step in front of the camera again. His scenes were a waste of time and totally cringe-worthy. But on sheer adrenaline alone, the film won me over. I'd give "Planet Terror" a 7/10.

Next up is Quentin Tarantino's masterpiece, "Death Proof". Let's get one thing straight right away: this isn't a horror or exploitation flick, like you had been led to believe. No, this is Tarantino's movie about female empowerment. Yes, leave it to a screwball like Quentin to drop a movie like this in the midst of the carnage. There is a slight bit of homage paid to road rage and slasher flicks, but that all falls in the background. The movie features more "signature" Tarantino dialogue than any of his previous work, so be warned, if that is not your cup of tea. A solid 50 minutes or so of this movie is dialogue and character interaction. The movie does really hit the road, however, when Tarantino finally gives the audience what they came for: pure metal-on-metal vehicular insanity. The chase scenes are wonderfully exciting and well-shot. Kurt Russell is great in his small role, but this movie really belongs to all the fine ladies in the cast, from Rosario Dawson to Zoe Bell. I think this is near Tarantino's best work, but it is sure to turn lots of people off. With that said, I think he "gets" what a grindhouse movie is, and is equal to the task. Tarantino masterfully toys with the audience in this one, and it's such a slickly-crafted film that really shocks the viewer by going everywhere but where you would expect, and in doing so, turns many cliches on their heads. You really have to see this one to believe it, but what Tarantino did with this film is nothing short of brilliant. His most vital work in years. I'd give "Death Proof" a 9.5/10.

Last but not least, I would be doing the film a grave injustice if I were to forget the fake trailers. Whereas the beef of the film is of varying quality, these trailers, each and every one of them, are solid gold. I live in Canada, so first up was the special trailer attached to Canadian prints, "Hobo With A Shotgun". Let me tell you, this set up the evening perfectly. The audience was just howling in laughter to this one. It was too funny. Next up was "Machete", a parody of all the god-awful low budget action movies I grew up watching, complete with cheesey dialogue and gratuitous nudity, and it struck all those notes masterfully. "Werewolf Women Of The SS" drew a ton of laughs, probably mostly from myself, as I found the concept to be genius, and always dig crazy Nazi's being portrayed. "Don't!" again had the audience in stitches, with its hilarious pace, and by the end of the trailer, people were yelling along with the narrator. Finally, the slam dunk on whole event, the best trailer of them all, was for the Halloween rip-off, "Thanksgiving". Oh my god, if this wasn't the most pitch-perfect spoof I've ever seen of a horror movie, I don't know what is. I was in tears after that one. I'd give these trailers a 9/10.

So there it is. I went to the Grindhouse and came out with an fantastic experience on the whole. Extremly highly recommended.
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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #483 on: April 08, 2007, 02:44:28 PM »
unf, I agree with Solo on almost everything so, that sealed the deal for me totally.  Fuck the haters  :drool

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« Reply #484 on: April 08, 2007, 03:42:47 PM »
How come you guys get a special trailer?
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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #485 on: April 08, 2007, 04:50:55 PM »
Us Canadians are a special people! Seriously though, the Hobo trailer is on YouTube. Watch it if you havent already. So great.

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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #486 on: April 08, 2007, 05:03:46 PM »
I couldn't believe how much I hated Death Proof.  I'd like to believe that it was Tarantino's intention to make a movie about boring Wanda Sykes clones having fucking boring conversations and ultimately turning one of my favorite actors into a total pussy in its final moments.  I'd like to believe this so I can maintain that Tarantino still has some wits about him and the ability to make a good film.
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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #487 on: April 08, 2007, 05:06:57 PM »
The shit about the black girl is just so fucking stupid.

IMA TAP THAT ASS LEMME TAP DAT ASS WONMO TAME nicca

It's NOT fucking funny at all.
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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #488 on: April 08, 2007, 05:07:36 PM »
DP is officially the most polarizing movie of the year so far. PT seems to have everyone ranging from liking it to really liking it, but DP seems to be love or hate.

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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #489 on: April 08, 2007, 11:04:07 PM »
Capote

Saw it earlier tonight. Overall it was good I suppose, but it dragged on through much of the movie and it was too long. The actings was superb though, and Hoffman was simply brilliant as Capote. I couldn't help but feel that Capote was a pretty selfish bastard lol, completely in love with himself.

8/10


Also the rest of my family watched Children of Men last night lol. Here are their reviews; I'll watch it tomorrow

Mom: 4/10 (she said she fell asleep though)
13yr old brother: 4/10
12yr old brother: 5/10
16yr old brother: 7/10
Dad: 9/10

On a plus side both my parents LOVED The Prestige; they watched it a few days ago apparently. My mom totally didn't get the ending and didn't realize what happened, so I explained it to her. Now she likes it even more :lol
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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #490 on: April 08, 2007, 11:06:21 PM »
Your dad is the only one with taste!
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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #491 on: April 08, 2007, 11:06:41 PM »
You should watch the OTHER Capote movie...I think it's called Infamous...people say it's actually better than Capote.
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« Reply #492 on: April 08, 2007, 11:10:12 PM »
Many things seemed odd in the movie. He obviously liked the guy who was on trial, but it seemed like when the dude finally revealed how he killed the family...Capote just lost it. It was as if Capote assumed he wasn't the murderer, and the other guy was.
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« Reply #493 on: April 08, 2007, 11:44:53 PM »
Many things seemed odd in the movie. He obviously liked the guy who was on trial, but it seemed like when the dude finally revealed how he killed the family...Capote just lost it. It was as if Capote assumed he wasn't the murderer, and the other guy was.

Did you read In Cold Blood?  It's pretty clear with which of the guys Capote's sympathy lies.  I think it's kinda hard to extrapolate from that, that Capote was in love with him or whatever, though.
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« Reply #494 on: April 08, 2007, 11:46:07 PM »
Many things seemed odd in the movie. He obviously liked the guy who was on trial, but it seemed like when the dude finally revealed how he killed the family...Capote just lost it. It was as if Capote assumed he wasn't the murderer, and the other guy was.

Did you read In Cold Blood?  It's pretty clear with which of the guys Capote's sympathy lies.  I think it's kinda hard to extrapolate from that, that Capote was in love with him or whatever, though.

Maybe I'm confused as to why Capote's behavior seemed to change once he found out the guy he had been obsessing over was actually the main killer.
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« Reply #495 on: April 08, 2007, 11:46:54 PM »
'Cuz Capote is teh gay and wanted the guy's pen0r.  At least, that's what it seemed like to me.
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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #496 on: April 09, 2007, 02:34:33 AM »
Just got done watching Unforgiven. I'll have a review tomorrow, but I must say I was almost completely underwhelmed. Wow
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« Reply #497 on: April 09, 2007, 02:36:23 AM »
Just got done watching Unforgiven. I'll have a review tomorrow, but I must say I was almost completely underwhelmed. Wow

Really!?

It's Eastwood's best western...
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« Reply #498 on: April 09, 2007, 07:02:15 AM »
Im partial to The Outlaw Josey Wales myself.

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« Reply #499 on: April 09, 2007, 07:51:51 AM »
The Outlaw Josey Wales rocked. Unforgiven was great and deserved the oscar though.

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« Reply #500 on: April 09, 2007, 01:09:22 PM »
Unforgiven was fucking awesome.
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« Reply #501 on: April 09, 2007, 01:27:44 PM »
The Outlaw Josey Wales rocked. Unforgiven was great and deserved the oscar though.

There was nothing great about Unforgiven. I was seriously considering giving it a 6 until the last few minutes, and even then I still wanted to.

Unforgiven (Eastwood)

Eastwood's character is beyond manufactured. He constantly repeats the same lines over and over again. For instance, whenever someone confronts him about his killer past his answer is along the lines "I used to be a rotten no good dirty killer, but now I'm on the right path thanks to my wife. I'm not like...that, anymore." How many times does he have to say that? It gets to the point where you can just tell when he'll say it again, and I couldn't help but roll my eyes every time.

The entire plot of the movie seems quite senseless. A whore's face is "cut up" by a few drunk guys, and her fellow prostitutes decide to raise some money to pay for revenge since the evil sherriff won't do anything. And I hate calling him evil, because Hackman's character was quite disgraceful as the "sadistic" villian he was billed to be. When I think of truly evil villians in Westerns I think of characters that actually live up to that billing. Such as Fonda in OUATITW, who killed a small boy point blank, or the villian in The Cowboys, who shot John Wayne in the back multiple times in front of a bunch of kids. That's evil. Yet here, Hackman does absolutely nothing to give me the impression that he's truly some evil bastard. Yes he's definitely a douche, but not evil. Even when he kills Munny's best friend the movie failed to drive the point home. Not only do you NOT see the murder, you also are told that it was an "accident". An accident? Wow, that's definitely badass. ::)

Speaking of someone not being badass or entertaing, you have Richard Harris' character Bob. At first it seems like he's the real badass of the movie, yet five minutes later he's neutralized in totally underwhelming fashion. His purpose in the movie is so forced and un-needed that I couldn't help but be shocked at the lazy execution of it. It's almost like giving a couple badass, full dialogue scenes to those fancy villians in Batman movies who do a bunch of impressive ninja moves only to be beaten by Batman with one hit.

Finally in terms of characters, there's the young apprentice. Throughout the movie he doesn't stop trying to prove how awesome he is. He drinks, he fucks prostitutes, he brags of killing five men; all to prove himself to the herelded assassins he rides with. Yet after he kills his first man he changes, and seems to replace Eastwood as the repentant man sorry for his sins. Not only was this predictable, it was done quite poorly.

As I said earlier, Eastwood's character is quite repentant as well, to say the least. But he seems a slight metamorphasis on two occassions. First, when he awakens from his fever induced sleep (all the while doing it in a snow covered environment, which made absolutely no sense). Yet even now he's not the badass he once was; if anything, it's clear that he's getting there. When his friend is "murdered" he snaps. He begins to swig whiskey, and then finally confronts Hackman's entire gang in the epic bar shootout. At this moment he's reverted to the Eastwood we all know and love: the badass, unstoppable killer. In a few minutes he basically seems to preform an "Eastwood Greatest Hits" reel, regurgitating many scenes from older movies in his rampage. Finally, the hero victorious, he rides off into the rainy, dark night as the prostitutes and men stare on in amazement and thanks.

Overall I can't really think of anything that stood out in this movie. Everything seemed second rate, and even the music was bland - which is unacceptable in Western movies. I didn't see a single justifiable reason for this movie's universal praise or its Oscar sweep. Best director? Why? There was nothing impressive about the direction or execution of the movie; in fact, in many instances it seemed quite sloppy and uninspired. I can't even think of any interest shots from the movie; instead we got plenty of the "close up on one face, cut to closeup on another face, closeup to former face, closeup to latter face, etc" editing.

6/10
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« Reply #502 on: April 09, 2007, 01:44:49 PM »
children of men is one of the greatest movies i've ever seen. my only problem with the movie was the scene with the girl giving birth, which was too graphic. you could totally see the lips and all... 9.5/10

the last movie i've seen was running scared which was HOLYSHITAWESOME. 8/10
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« Reply #503 on: April 09, 2007, 02:04:06 PM »
The Outlaw Josey Wales rocked. Unforgiven was great and deserved the oscar though.

There was nothing great about Unforgiven. I was seriously considering giving it a 6 until the last few minutes, and even then I still wanted to.

Unforgiven (Eastwood)

Eastwood's character is beyond manufactured. He constantly repeats the same lines over and over again. For instance, whenever someone confronts him about his killer past his answer is along the lines "I used to be a rotten no good dirty killer, but now I'm on the right path thanks to my wife. I'm not like...that, anymore." How many times does he have to say that? It gets to the point where you can just tell when he'll say it again, and I couldn't help but roll my eyes every time.

The entire plot of the movie seems quite senseless. A whore's face is "cut up" by a few drunk guys, and her fellow prostitutes decide to raise some money to pay for revenge since the evil sherriff won't do anything. And I hate calling him evil, because Hackman's character was quite disgraceful as the "sadistic" villian he was billed to be. When I think of truly evil villians in Westerns I think of characters that actually live up to that billing. Such as Fonda in OUATITW, who killed a small boy point blank, or the villian in The Cowboys, who shot John Wayne in the back multiple times in front of a bunch of kids. That's evil. Yet here, Hackman does absolutely nothing to give me the impression that he's truly some evil bastard. Yes he's definitely a douche, but not evil. Even when he kills Munny's best friend the movie failed to drive the point home. Not only do you NOT see the murder, you also are told that it was an "accident". An accident? Wow, that's definitely badass. ::)

Speaking of someone not being badass or entertaing, you have Richard Harris' character Bob. At first it seems like he's the real badass of the movie, yet five minutes later he's neutralized in totally underwhelming fashion. His purpose in the movie is so forced and un-needed that I couldn't help but be shocked at the lazy execution of it. It's almost like giving a couple badass, full dialogue scenes to those fancy villians in Batman movies who do a bunch of impressive ninja moves only to be beaten by Batman with one hit.

Finally in terms of characters, there's the young apprentice. Throughout the movie he doesn't stop trying to prove how awesome he is. He drinks, he fucks prostitutes, he brags of killing five men; all to prove himself to the herelded assassins he rides with. Yet after he kills his first man he changes, and seems to replace Eastwood as the repentant man sorry for his sins. Not only was this predictable, it was done quite poorly.

As I said earlier, Eastwood's character is quite repentant as well, to say the least. But he seems a slight metamorphasis on two occassions. First, when he awakens from his fever induced sleep (all the while doing it in a snow covered environment, which made absolutely no sense). Yet even now he's not the badass he once was; if anything, it's clear that he's getting there. When his friend is "murdered" he snaps. He begins to swig whiskey, and then finally confronts Hackman's entire gang in the epic bar shootout. At this moment he's reverted to the Eastwood we all know and love: the badass, unstoppable killer. In a few minutes he basically seems to preform an "Eastwood Greatest Hits" reel, regurgitating many scenes from older movies in his rampage. Finally, the hero victorious, he rides off into the rainy, dark night as the prostitutes and men stare on in amazement and thanks.

Overall I can't really think of anything that stood out in this movie. Everything seemed second rate, and even the music was bland - which is unacceptable in Western movies. I didn't see a single justifiable reason for this movie's universal praise or its Oscar sweep. Best director? Why? There was nothing impressive about the direction or execution of the movie; in fact, in many instances it seemed quite sloppy and uninspired. I can't even think of any interest shots from the movie; instead we got plenty of the "close up on one face, cut to closeup on another face, closeup to former face, closeup to latter face, etc" editing.

6/10

You either had outrageously high expectations for this movie, or you just don't know a good film whenever you see it.

One of the best things about the film to me is everything you say sucks. Hackman isn't too outrageous, and neither is the protagonist. The characters seem more real to me if they aren't straight assholes or good guys. This movie delivers on that level.

The music is a little weak, but whatever. I still loved it.

I'm not saying this is Dollars trilogy quality, but then again, it's a different type of fucking movie.
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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #504 on: April 09, 2007, 02:07:19 PM »
I'm not even comparing it to spaghetti Westerns. Movies like The Cowboys did this much better; that movie is far from a typical western and still manages to feel fresh while still having some western staples such as evil villians and great music.

Unforgiven fails on nearly every level.
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« Reply #505 on: April 09, 2007, 04:00:09 PM »
Bad taste confirmed.
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« Reply #506 on: April 09, 2007, 05:40:06 PM »
 :-\

I was making progress too
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« Reply #507 on: April 09, 2007, 05:44:49 PM »
I'm not saying I agree with PD (hell naw), but he's right about the English Bob and dime author subplot taking up too much time.  The pulp biographer doesn't really belong with those guys, which is the point of him being there, to further demystify the West, but it felt a bit overplayed to me.

Other then that the film is damn near flawless.

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« Reply #508 on: April 09, 2007, 07:20:45 PM »
What...the...fuck....

PD, I've never seen someone miss the point of a movie as badly as you just did.
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« Reply #509 on: April 09, 2007, 08:32:39 PM »
Goddammit Pee Dee, you don't know shit about shit.
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« Reply #510 on: April 09, 2007, 08:45:04 PM »
If you watch Outlaw Josey Wales and also give it a low score then we will know you didn't hate Unforgiven for stupid reasons, you just generally don't like good westerns.

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« Reply #511 on: April 10, 2007, 03:04:13 AM »
Just finished Children of Men. My hands are shaking, and for the first time in awhile I'm actually considering giving a movie of the 21st century a 10/10. I probably won't in the end, but this movie definitely deserves that consideration.

Review for tomorrow. Oh god
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« Reply #512 on: April 10, 2007, 03:10:24 AM »
 Are you going to continually give us 'previews' of your next selection to critique :/ Quite pompous of you.
 

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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #513 on: April 10, 2007, 03:12:57 AM »
What?
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« Reply #514 on: April 10, 2007, 03:17:52 AM »
 Forget it.... I guess am overreaching. Just all this dignity and importance you build up in your posts is kinda off-putting.

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« Reply #515 on: April 10, 2007, 03:19:55 AM »
No. It's just that it's THREE IN THE MORNING and I don't feel like writing 5 paragraphics. I'm a dumbass: I have no right to be pompous >:(
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« Reply #516 on: April 11, 2007, 10:17:00 PM »
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« Reply #517 on: April 11, 2007, 10:18:28 PM »
And the awesome typo.
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« Reply #518 on: April 13, 2007, 10:54:25 PM »
Children of Men: 9.5/10

Anyway I got two more movies tonight. Babel and Collateral. I've really wanted to see Babel for some time. This is the third and final movie in the "Three Amigo" trilogy of movies that came from Mexican directors last year, all of which were met with much praise and awards. I gave Pan's Labrinth a 9 and Children of Men a 9.5. Woohoo
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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #519 on: April 14, 2007, 11:58:15 AM »
wow, that review of unforgiven reads like a satire of someone who completely and utterly did not get the fucking movie. the whole point of english bob is that he's a trumped up fictional hero who can't handle the real west; the point of hackman is that he really is just a petty, amoral small-town sheriff tryin' to get by in his retirement; the point of the "kid" is that he's possessed of false bravado based on his romantic notions of the west; the point of clint fucking eastwood's character is to prove that the mentality of the "traditional western hero" is that of a psychopath. the concept of unforgiven is that of a classic western structure wed to more realistic and less heroic characters -- this is the road that leone began to tread with his films and that eastwood finished. the movie is so 100% consistent on these points that i'm amazed that you -- yes, even you -- so completely and utterly missed it. for the sake of your soul and your god, i hope that review was a joke.
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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #520 on: April 14, 2007, 02:39:32 PM »
wow, that review of unforgiven reads like a satire of someone who completely and utterly did not get the fucking movie. the whole point of english bob is that he's a trumped up fictional hero who can't handle the real west; the point of hackman is that he really is just a petty, amoral small-town sheriff tryin' to get by in his retirement; the point of the "kid" is that he's possessed of false bravado based on his romantic notions of the west; the point of clint fucking eastwood's character is to prove that the mentality of the "traditional western hero" is that of a psychopath. the concept of unforgiven is that of a classic western structure wed to more realistic and less heroic characters -- the is the road that leone began to tread and eastwood finished. the movie is so 100% consistent on these points that i'm amazed that you -- yes, even you -- so completely and utterly missed it. for the sake of your soul and your god, i hope that review was a joke.

Thank you for writing the rebuttal that I was too lazy to do.  PD is like a mental midget when it comes to movies, or something.
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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #521 on: April 14, 2007, 02:57:29 PM »
wow, that review of unforgiven reads like a satire of someone who completely and utterly did not get the fucking movie. the whole point of english bob is that he's a trumped up fictional hero who can't handle the real west; the point of hackman is that he really is just a petty, amoral small-town sheriff tryin' to get by in his retirement; the point of the "kid" is that he's possessed of false bravado based on his romantic notions of the west; the point of clint fucking eastwood's character is to prove that the mentality of the "traditional western hero" is that of a psychopath. the concept of unforgiven is that of a classic western structure wed to more realistic and less heroic characters -- the is the road that leone began to tread and eastwood finished. the movie is so 100% consistent on these points that i'm amazed that you -- yes, even you -- so completely and utterly missed it. for the sake of your soul and your god, i hope that review was a joke.

This is the stupidest thing I've ever read
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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #522 on: April 14, 2007, 03:04:14 PM »
wow, that review of unforgiven reads like a satire of someone who completely and utterly did not get the fucking movie. the whole point of english bob is that he's a trumped up fictional hero who can't handle the real west; the point of hackman is that he really is just a petty, amoral small-town sheriff tryin' to get by in his retirement; the point of the "kid" is that he's possessed of false bravado based on his romantic notions of the west; the point of clint fucking eastwood's character is to prove that the mentality of the "traditional western hero" is that of a psychopath. the concept of unforgiven is that of a classic western structure wed to more realistic and less heroic characters -- the is the road that leone began to tread and eastwood finished. the movie is so 100% consistent on these points that i'm amazed that you -- yes, even you -- so completely and utterly missed it. for the sake of your soul and your god, i hope that review was a joke.

This is the stupidest thing I've ever read

The joke doesn't work when you're actually quoting something intelligent.
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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #523 on: April 14, 2007, 03:07:12 PM »
Pathfinder:

holy fucking crap this movie is terrible. there is like really, no plot. The action is terible. The acting is the most offensive crap I've ever seen. They're all Native Americans with LA accents

Here is one of the lines I can remember that stood out as terrible:

"3 of the 4 hunting parties were lost. along with them, he who is to replace me."

WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?

God the movie sucked balls. The costumes looked like they were made by a highschool theater group.

The cinematography was fucking awful.

Jesus, probably the worst movie I've ever seen. There were times when I literally could not control my laughter

.5/10

It got a .5 because it made me laugh so fucking much

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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #524 on: April 14, 2007, 06:39:51 PM »
pd hasn't seen collateral yet?

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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #525 on: April 15, 2007, 02:03:27 AM »
COLLATERAL OMG

Another steller Tom Cruise Production :bow
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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #526 on: April 15, 2007, 07:14:29 AM »
+10 redemption points. Collateral is my favorite movie of 2004, or second behind Eternal Sunshine, I can never decide.

That +10 bring your overall score to -8935, PD.

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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #527 on: April 15, 2007, 08:37:54 AM »
I suggest this thread be retitled, "Solo does the movies, Phoenix Dark ruins them."
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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #528 on: April 15, 2007, 08:41:36 AM »
Haha, that would be great.

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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #529 on: April 15, 2007, 12:02:32 PM »
+10 redemption points. Collateral is my favorite movie of 2004, or second behind Eternal Sunshine, I can never decide.

That +10 bring your overall score to -8935, PD.

It wasn't omg amazing but there was definitely enough awesome-ness to go around. I'll review it later but I must say: Will Smith's wife was very good in the movie. Everyone expected Cruise and Foxx to be good, but hell, Jada especially impressed me in that opening cab scene.

And Jamie Foxx. Damn. The thing I liked about his preformance was that for the most part you got the sense that he was channeling a regular guy. It never felt fake or manufactured; he conviced you he was terrified. And Tom Cruise...what can I say. He's Tom Cruise, and I'm not. :bow
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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #530 on: April 15, 2007, 12:04:54 PM »
PD really loves Tom Cruise.

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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #531 on: April 15, 2007, 12:13:20 PM »
Tom Cruise makes enjoyable movies. Even when I'm not too crazy about them, like say WotW, they're still good.

He's not my favorite actor, but I respect him.
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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #532 on: April 15, 2007, 12:18:48 PM »
i don't respect him. he mugs a lot, he's about as nuanced an actor as harrison ford, and he's l. ron hubbard's crazy-ass jesus. i consider him a detriment to any movie he's in, where he could easily be replaced by any superior actor. i like collateral, but foxx's performance was so much more credible than tom's bombast.
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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #533 on: April 15, 2007, 05:35:38 PM »
i don't respect him. he mugs a lot, he's about as nuanced an actor as harrison ford, and he's l. ron hubbard's crazy-ass jesus. i consider him a detriment to any movie he's in, where he could easily be replaced by any superior actor. i like collateral, but foxx's performance was so much more credible than tom's bombast.

It was indeed bombast, but at the same time that's what the character was.

The movie reminded me of Heat in the sense that it revolved around two vastly different characters who's lived dangerously intersected. Foxx is brilliant as the everyman cab driver, and really gives a touch of reality to the movie; you get the sense that in some ways, he's not even acting - just being Jamie. As Drinky said Cruise is more loose and wild in his role, and it fits the character perfectly. He has very little sense of any reality outside of his own, until of course he meets Foxx.

Like Heat, the movie is quite...stylistic. These are Mann's fingerprints, and everything just looks alive. Also I don't think many directors are able to shoot gun scenes with the same intensity as him; the third person-esque shooting is featured throughout the movie, and it's not surprising why Mann's work is so influencial to western videogames (and let's not forget John Woo).

My only complaints would be about the supporting cast, which is quite bland. Cruise and Foxx turn in great preformances, but outside of Jada the other acting pieces are weak. Also, the writing tries too hard at time. There are more than a couple parts where Cruise's lines are infused with this faux street slang that don't fit the character; it's clear a 45+ year old white guy wrote it because I don't know anyone who still says "yo homie". That definitely wasn't Cruise's fault.

Overall I found the movie to be smart and very intense. The last chase scene had my mouth open; I couldn't help but get flashbacks of the first Terminator movie. Cruise especially shines throughout that last 20 minutes or so, and he just takes everything to another level (especially once he gets shot in the jaw lol). DAMN

8.5/10

Now question time: what was the coyote scene for? It seemed to just show a sense of displacement - being out of one's environment and having to adapt. I thought it was an interesting scene, although the music was way too loud - I love Audioslave and Mann does too, but it seemed kinda thrown together. Sort of like some of the musical cues in The Departed.
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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #534 on: April 15, 2007, 05:40:31 PM »
Quote from: Phoenix Dark
Now question time: what was the coyote scene for? It seemed to just show a sense of displacement - being out of one's environment and having to adapt. I thought it was an interesting scene, although the music was way too loud - I love Audioslave and Mann does too, but it seemed kinda thrown together. Sort of like some of the musical cues in The Departed.

that was one of my favourite scenes in the movie and it's about them being in awe regarding the whole situation they were in. the audioslave music was perfect

http://youtube.com/watch?v=eUwG0FuY1Lk

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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #535 on: April 16, 2007, 03:00:12 AM »
Just watched Babel. What a beautiful, thought provoking...diffulcult movie. I haven't seen a movie that created such a sense of human frailty in some time.

And my friendgirl cried at the end. I didn't cry though :(
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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #536 on: April 16, 2007, 05:42:36 AM »
It was the shittiest thing I've ever seen film wasted on.

Why in the fuck would anybody go pay money to see bitches-desperate-for-sex, mexican-bashing, or ragheads-waving-their-guns?

ARE YOU THAT FUCKING DUMB?

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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #537 on: April 16, 2007, 06:49:58 AM »
...because that description is awesome?

Babel was really cool.
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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #538 on: April 16, 2007, 08:49:55 AM »
Babel was eh.  It wasn't a BAD movie necessarily, but at the same time I really felt like I was being preached at the entire time I watched it.  It's like an acceptable version of Crash, which no-taste PD probably also loved.
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Re: Solo does the movies
« Reply #539 on: April 16, 2007, 09:29:24 AM »
It was the shittiest thing I've ever seen film wasted on.

Why in the fuck would anybody go pay money to see bitches-desperate-for-sex, mexican-bashing, or ragheads-waving-their-guns?

ARE YOU THAT FUCKING DUMB?
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