Author Topic: Can Willco still defend Spider-Man 3 after the ridiculous NBC footage? (Read 4561 times)

Howard Alan Treesong · « **on:** March 06, 2007, 01:28:17 AM »

1. Stupid scene with MJ
2. Stupid scene with Aunt May before she becomes Carnage
3. X-treme Green Goblin is even stupider than you imagined

The CG is SO bad even by the low standards of the franchise.

bagofeyes · « **Reply #1 on:** March 06, 2007, 01:29:19 AM »

Did it look crap?

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #2 on:** March 06, 2007, 01:30:29 AM »

I haven't seen it yet and I haven't been a defender of Spidey 3!

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #3 on:** March 06, 2007, 01:31:01 AM »

posted this on GAF

The Peter/Harry fight was one of the worse fights I've seen in a long time. This is sad because for the most part the effects were very good throughout the scene, although towards the end they started looking horrible (light saber wtf). It probably seemed cool on a storyboard but on screen it flowed horribly and seem totally contrived. To make matters worse Harry's "costume" is beyond ridiculous. How was that abomination approved for the movie?

I'll be there on day one but I must say that I'm hype level for the movie took another hit today. There was a time when I felt that Spiderman 3 would be the only sure thing with respect to 2007 summer movies, but now I don't know.

bagofeyes · « **Reply #4 on:** March 06, 2007, 01:32:56 AM »

Why are the costume designs on the spider-man movies so terrible? The original green goblin looked so fucking bad.

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #5 on:** March 06, 2007, 01:34:21 AM »

What's up with all this Spiderman 3 hate!?

It looks nice.....except the Green Surfer.

Beezy · « **Reply #6 on:** March 06, 2007, 01:35:15 AM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on March 06, 2007, 01:28:17 AM

2. Stupid scene with Aunt May before she becomes Carnage

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #7 on:** March 06, 2007, 01:36:23 AM »

I don't think the costume design has been bad, save for the Osborns. Doc Ock, Sandman and Venom all like fine and pretty faithful. Goblin had arguably the hardest costume to bring to screen, and they probably should've opted for an Ultimate version (he becomes an actual goblin, not dresses like one). I don't have the problems with the costumes as much as others, simply because it's a movie where a guy dresses in a red and blue spider outfit to fight crime. They're definitely not the peak of the series.

Himu · « **Reply #8 on:** March 06, 2007, 01:38:41 AM »

wtf are you talking about? That fight scene was omg.

Disposable White Guy · « **Reply #9 on:** March 06, 2007, 01:41:02 AM »

Disposable White Guy · « **Reply #10 on:** March 06, 2007, 01:41:07 AM »

Whoops, sorry.

Himu · « **Reply #11 on:** March 06, 2007, 01:43:07 AM »

people always complain about cg in movies but I never notice a thing. looks good to me.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #12 on:** March 06, 2007, 01:43:36 AM »

See, there you go. Set the bar low, and nothing will ever disappoint!

Disposable White Guy · « **Reply #13 on:** March 06, 2007, 01:44:19 AM »

Worked for me with Constantine!

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #14 on:** March 06, 2007, 01:44:27 AM »

Quote from: Himuro on March 06, 2007, 01:43:07 AM

people always complain about cg in movies but I never notice a thing. looks good to me.

The part with Harry flying through the tight alley way looked horrible. Especially the light saber SHIT. Wow what is this shit.

But the first few CGI shots in the scene looked great imo

Himu · « **Reply #15 on:** March 06, 2007, 01:45:27 AM »

what light saber shit

I only saw the preview that was on heroes where they fight in the city, and then peter drops the ring, tries to catch it, and then harry owns him.

that part was fucking awesome

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #16 on:** March 06, 2007, 01:46:42 AM »

The part with Harry flying through the alleyway looked like the Cave of Wonders from 1991's Aladdin.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #17 on:** March 06, 2007, 01:47:41 AM »

Quote from: Himuro on March 06, 2007, 01:45:27 AM

what light saber shit

I only saw the preview that was on heroes where they fight in the city, and then peter drops the ring, tries to catch it, and then harry owns him.

that part was fucking awesome

There's an additional seven minutes of footage on NBC.com in HD QuickTime format. I'm downloading it right now.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #18 on:** March 06, 2007, 01:49:31 AM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on March 06, 2007, 01:46:42 AM

The part with Harry flying through the alleyway looked like the Cave of Wonders from 1991's Aladdin.

But worse. That was like When Green Screen Goes Wrong 101

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #19 on:** March 06, 2007, 01:56:34 AM »

Okay, I watched it all. Phoenix Dark, per usual, is way overblowing it, but there is an easy to spot disparity between effects shots that looked good and ones that are either too ambitious for whatever effects house Sony is using or are not finished (maybe both?). I'm inclined to think it's the latter, because most of the sequences that looked good were just expanded ones that we've seen before and it was the all new footage that looked pretty shaky.

The new footage doesn't really do anything for me either way. I'm not excited, nor am I disappointed. This movie has been on shaky ground since we knew that Venom was going to be in this with a resolved storyline to boot. Until that is addressed, which basically means when I see it opening day, I can't really comment on if the movie will be good or not.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #20 on:** March 06, 2007, 01:59:25 AM »

lol the consensus on the effects is that they're weak for the most part. It's not just me.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #21 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:00:37 AM »

Well if it isn't everyone's favorite Raimi jewpologist, Willco! Tell me more about how they're gonna tighten up the graphics in level three before release.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #22 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:06:19 AM »

Well, in Spiderman 3's defense, at least it HAS villains that Spiderman can fight in the licensed games. Superman had to fight Tornados.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #23 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:07:21 AM »

The CGI strangely goes from being good at times to simply horrible at other times. In the beginning of the scene there was a nice mix of CGI was actual real shots, but as the fight got more ridiculous this changed.

Ecrofirt · « **Reply #24 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:09:07 AM »

Holy shit at the stupid grin on Parker's face while he's riding the scooter.

Vizzys · « **Reply #25 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:10:20 AM »

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #26 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:10:36 AM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on March 06, 2007, 02:00:37 AM

Well if it isn't everyone's favorite Raimi jewpologist, Willco! Tell me more about how they're gonna tighten up the graphics in level three before release.

TVC15 · « **Reply #27 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:16:20 AM »

The CG is really awful. For example:

Who would think this was a real woman? It's clearly some sort of rudely-shaped gourd with a face painted on it.

spruce moose · « **Reply #28 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:18:11 AM »

Jesus what a bunch of naysaying cockslobs. Most of the effects shots looked insane, so just shut the fuck up. All of you will be there opening w/e, and this movie will kick ass.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #29 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:18:21 AM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on March 06, 2007, 02:16:20 AM

The CG is really awful. For example:

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Who would think this was a real woman? It's clearly some sort of rudely-shaped gourd with a face painted on it.

And those teeth are hardly believable!

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #30 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:19:15 AM »

Dunst just couldnt let her baby-teeth go.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #31 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:20:07 AM »

Quote from: Viz on March 06, 2007, 02:10:20 AM

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For all we know JAMES DEAN could be the goblin!

TVC15 · « **Reply #32 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:21:00 AM »

Quote from: MrAngryFace on March 06, 2007, 02:20:07 AM

Quote from: Viz on March 06, 2007, 02:10:20 AM
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For all we know JAMES DEAN could be the goblin!

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #33 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:21:49 AM »

PUT THE MASK BACK ON!

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #34 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:22:24 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 06, 2007, 01:59:25 AM

lol the consensus on the effects is that they're weak for the most part. It's not just me.

I never said that they weren't weak in spots, in fact - I just said that!

Also, where was this light saber you guys were talking about?

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #35 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:22:43 AM »

Why'd you have to pick that picture.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #36 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:23:15 AM »

I just dont get why he made a costume that covers everything except the top of his head.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #37 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:24:52 AM »

Because snowboarders want to feel the breeze through their hair!

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #38 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:26:27 AM »

Can the Goblin resist the refreshing taste of Coca-Cola (tm) ?

Vizzys · « **Reply #39 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:29:08 AM »

thats so horrible but I lol'd

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #40 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:30:34 AM »

The lolz are too fast for quality photoshops

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #41 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:40:26 AM »

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #42 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:41:06 AM »

My lolz were had first while you made that fancy shop!

TVC15 · « **Reply #43 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:41:18 AM »

She looks like she is 60 here.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #44 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:44:24 AM »

Quote from: MrAngryFace on March 06, 2007, 02:41:06 AM

My lolz were had first while you made that fancy shop!

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I did it afterwards and probably faster than yours! Damn me for answering the phone! $:-\$

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #45 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:45:34 AM »

Ichirou · « **Reply #46 on:** March 06, 2007, 10:18:58 AM »

I liked the footage except for Harry's costume. He takes the mask off right away anyways.

bagofeyes · « **Reply #47 on:** March 06, 2007, 10:23:31 AM »

Quote from: MrAngryFace on March 06, 2007, 02:26:27 AM

Can the Goblin resist the refreshing taste of Coca-Cola (tm) ?

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Cheebs · « **Reply #48 on:** March 06, 2007, 10:23:56 AM »

I have been down on this movie for a long time, oddly unlike PD this preview made my expectations rise a bit. I liked the fight/

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #49 on:** March 06, 2007, 10:25:50 AM »

Quote from: Willco on March 06, 2007, 02:22:24 AM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 06, 2007, 01:59:25 AM
lol the consensus on the effects is that they're weak for the most part. It's not just me.

I never said that they weren't weak in spots, in fact - I just said that!

Also, where was this light saber you guys were talking about?

Would the term LASER KATANA suit you better?

Cheebs · « **Reply #50 on:** March 06, 2007, 10:28:30 AM »

it wasn't a laser. It just seemed kinda glowy. PD I think you are looking for reasons to hate on this film.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #51 on:** March 06, 2007, 10:35:35 AM »

Kinda glowy? It looked like shit

I'm definitely not looking for reasons to hate the only movie left on my ritual theater viewing list. Just as seeing LOTR at the theater was something I looked forward to, I do the same with Spiderman movies. But what I saw last night was stupid

Cheebs · « **Reply #52 on:** March 06, 2007, 10:37:22 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 06, 2007, 10:35:35 AM

I'm definitely not looking for reasons to hate the only movie left on my ritual theater viewing list.

Harry Potter 5? POTC 3? Bourne Ultimatum?

Solo · « **Reply #53 on:** March 06, 2007, 10:39:27 AM »

Ritual theater?

Tauntaun · « **Reply #54 on:** March 06, 2007, 10:39:58 AM »

Quote from: Viz on March 06, 2007, 02:10:20 AM

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paintball tourney gone horribly wrong?

Ichirou · « **Reply #55 on:** March 06, 2007, 10:41:18 AM »

Quote from: Solo on March 06, 2007, 10:39:27 AM

Ritual theater?

Some people have movie nights and go to theaters more than 15 times a year.

Solo · « **Reply #56 on:** March 06, 2007, 10:42:18 AM »

Some people get hung up on ridiculous things and can't let them go.

Ichirou · « **Reply #57 on:** March 06, 2007, 10:44:01 AM »

Quote from: Solo on March 06, 2007, 10:42:18 AM

Some people get hung up on ridiculous things and can't let them go.

:sp0rsk1

Solo · « **Reply #58 on:** March 06, 2007, 10:45:26 AM »

Only another hour of downloading

and Ill be able to see this beast. Man what a slow download, the Sony servers must be getting pounded.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #59 on:** March 06, 2007, 10:46:11 AM »

Quote from: Cheebs on March 06, 2007, 10:37:22 AM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 06, 2007, 10:35:35 AM

I'm definitely not looking for reasons to hate the only movie left on my ritual theater viewing list.
Harry Potter 5? POTC 3? Bourne Ultimatum?

I wouldn't consider those the same. While I love the Potter movies I've never skipped school to see them. The first two movies were actually kind of meh, and I didn't even see Chamber of Secrets or PoA in the theater. I didn't see the first POTC in the theater either, and while I saw the second one on day one it's not a ritual for me. I saw both the Bourne movies on DVD.

LOTR and Spiderman movies are the ones I have skipped class to see, snuck large pizzas into (stuffed inside my friend's pants), cheered during, and seen multiple times (IE 3-5 times) in the theater.

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Author Topic: Can Willco still defend Spider-Man 3 after the ridiculous NBC footage? (Read 4561 times)