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TVC15

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So, PS3 is dead
« on: August 29, 2006, 03:29:28 AM »
I can't believe Sony actually stamped their console with the "Almost as good as Nintendo 64" stamp.
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Re: So, PS3 is dead
« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2006, 03:30:08 AM »
What's going on.  Like, what changed in the past 24 hours?
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2006, 03:31:36 AM »
Hmm? I see nothing but poor design, scratches, and misspellings here:


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Re: So, PS3 is dead
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2006, 03:31:49 AM »
What's going on.  Like, what changed in the past 24 hours?

50MHz Downgrade to the GPU

From 550MHz to 500MHz

The last thing the PS3 needed was the downgrade stigma :lol
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2006, 03:32:47 AM »
So a 50Mhz downgrade is what FINALLY turned the tide?  C'mon...
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2006, 03:36:54 AM »
it did not help  :'(

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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2006, 03:37:51 AM »
So a 50Mhz downgrade is what FINALLY turned the tide?  C'mon...

I firmly believe that the internet has taken the joke over reaction shtick way to faaaa!!!! But these are the breaks.
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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2006, 04:26:22 AM »
I will probably get a Wii and 360 with price drop, but one thing bugs me.

I'm pretty sure at a not too far off point, Nintendo is going to release a Wii SP with HD graphic capabilites  which combines the best of both worlds minus the stupid hd-dvd/blueray/take-over-your-living-room shenanigans of Sony & MS. 

If the Wii succeeds, I'm 100% sure of a HD Wii SP. I just know it won't happen until it becomes cheaper to manufacture and fit into a console.

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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2006, 05:39:29 AM »


PS3, we hardly knew ye!

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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2006, 07:25:21 AM »
So a 50Mhz downgrade is what FINALLY turned the tide?  C'mon...
Seriously, what the hell is the big deal? 50 fucking MHz. Oh no, the sky is falling, White Man.  ::)
Most gamers won't even notice the difference or understand what it means -- thankfully, it means next to nothing.

Overclock your graphics card by 50MHz and then you'll see how little of a performance boost you'll get. Not to mention, PS3 is a games machine, with Cell and other components geared towards ingame performance as well. That too will contribute to the 50MHz decrease not meaning much of anything.

You MS fanboys are acting like the GPU went from 500 to 300MHz. :P

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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2006, 08:13:36 AM »
anyhow when meticulously looking at trailers in HD for system-exclusive games for both systems, the PS3 efforts are realized so much better than it's not even funny, compared to the Xbox 360's beefed-up PC games with cosmetic blur and bump-mapping effects

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Re: So, PS3 is dead
« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2006, 08:29:14 AM »
In the end, the PS3 is still my system of choice. Not because of stats on which console penis can hit the back of our throats or which one has a tighter va giner  but more or less the genres that will (theoretically) hit the system (couldn't come up for a sexual example for that one).

PS3 all the way and I always was going to be getting a Blu Ray player eventually. Two birds with one stone with the PS3.
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Re: So, PS3 is dead
« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2006, 08:36:48 AM »
So a 50Mhz downgrade is what FINALLY turned the tide?  C'mon...

Willco, the console is more than 6 months late, it's supposed to be in manufacturing now (but isn't!), and they're STILL downgrading the thing?  You can't tell me this looks good for Sony, especially a week after they've been fingered as the culprit in the largest consumer electronics recall in history.

Also, 50MHz doesn't sound like much, but keep in mind that is about 10% of the GPU's clockspeed.  When you look at it like that, as a double digit loss in graphics processing capability, yes, it is something lame to be pulling at the 11th hour.
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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2006, 08:41:58 AM »
So a 50Mhz downgrade is what FINALLY turned the tide?  C'mon...

Willco, the console is more than 6 months late, it's supposed to be in manufacturing now (but isn't!), and they're STILL downgrading the thing?  You can't tell me this looks good for Sony, especially a week after they've been fingered as the culprit in the largest consumer electronics recall in history.

Also, 50MHz doesn't sound like much, but keep in mind that is about 10% of the GPU's clockspeed.  When you look at it like that, as a double digit loss in graphics processing capability, yes, it is something lame to be pulling at the 11th hour.

10% of the GPU's clockspeed, but not necessarily PERFORMANCE. Cell handles a lot of tasks as well, like SM as I just learned over at GAF.

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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2006, 08:49:05 AM »
In the end, the PS3 is still my system of choice. Not because of stats on which console penis can hit the back of our throats or which one has a tighter va giner  but more or less the genres that will (theoretically) hit the system (couldn't come up for a sexual example for that one).

PS3 all the way and I always was going to be getting a Blu Ray player eventually. Two birds with one stone with the PS3.

Same for me of course, it's first and foremost all about the games. I also eagerly await to get a Blu-Ray HD video player.

However, the chaotic FUD claiming that Xbox 360 graphics are "superior" to the best guts of PS3 are ridiculously dishonest and concretely based on nothing. It is a true next-gen product, not a PC-lite in a box.

It's ridiculous how people always want to bash the established champion in order to band with their peers and feel important, while forgetting empirical evidence and without thinking in the long run, because the machine also has a lot of long-term untapped potential. Don't they remember the Dreamcast vs. PS2 days and all the deluded fanboys claiming Sega would conquer all and was superior to the PS2? The irony is so sweet for those grounded in reason right now.
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« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2006, 08:53:31 AM »
:lol @ thread

Ps3 will thrash competition anyway. I mean...Nintendo is kiddy and only Americans care about X360.  8)

 

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« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2006, 08:53:48 AM »
Jotaro, there's nothing on the PS3 that couldn't be done on the 360.  I have no idea where you're seeing these graphics that look leaps and bounds better.  Is that tumor acting up again?

Of course, I can't understand your penchant for GA bashing, and your man-love of Saint Cornelius, either.
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« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2006, 08:56:12 AM »
Jotaro, there's nothing on the PS3 that couldn't be done on the 360.

Yes, there is.

We'll never going see the big Playstation franchises on the X360. 

And those games sell consoles. Not power.

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« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2006, 08:56:46 AM »
Jotaro, there's nothing on the PS3 that couldn't be done on the 360.

Yes, there is.

We'll never going see the big Playstation franchises on the X360. 


Good point :p
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« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2006, 09:14:57 AM »
I have no idea where you're seeing these graphics that look leaps and bounds better.  Is that tumor acting up again?

Time will tell. I think PS3 will end up having a considerable advantage over 360 graphically. BR-ROM is slow, but there's a hard drive you can use as a cache.

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« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2006, 09:50:06 AM »
Jotaro, there's nothing on the PS3 that couldn't be done on the 360.

Yes, there is.

We'll never going see the big Playstation franchises on the X360. 

And those games sell consoles. Not power.

um im pretty sure madden sold ps2's early on in its life and gta sold a huge amount of them as well. guess what...those are both on 360 now. to the average gamer they coould give a shit about mgs or final fantasy.  oh and dont bank on capcom because dead rising and resident evil 5 have shown that brand loyalty from them means jack shit

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« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2006, 09:59:17 AM »
Jotaro, there's nothing on the PS3 that couldn't be done on the 360.

Yes, there is.

We'll never going see the big Playstation franchises on the X360. 

And those games sell consoles. Not power.

um im pretty sure madden sold ps2's early on in its life and gta sold a huge amount of them as well. guess what...those are both on 360 now. to the average gamer they coould give a shit about mgs or final fantasy.  oh and dont bank on capcom because dead rising and resident evil 5 have shown that brand loyalty from them means jack shit

Since when were Madden and GTA Playstation franchises?

Sure, they sell most on the Playstation platforms, and they still do. But those are just multiplatform games. And I'm talking about exclusives. Sure, Madden is on the X360. But the majority is still buying it for their Ps2.

And let's talk about Final Fantasy and MGS then.... Final fantasy X sold better than Halo 2. And MGS 3 sold better than any Xbox game, besides Halo 1 and 2. This means that those are pretty huge fanchises, and Playstation exclusive.

Sony has more million seller exlcusive franchises than MS does. MS only has Halo as the big exclusive killer-app, while Sony has more. Many more. Sony also has more diverse killer-apps.

More diversity in games = more consumers you attract. That's why Sony will stay on top.





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« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2006, 10:03:36 AM »
i could give a shit less how many copies of ff and mgs sold worldwide. of course ps3 will do well in japan, but it wont dominate this gen like it did last.  and your distinguished mentally-challenged if you dont think madden and gta sell consoles. and saying more people play madden on ps2 than 360 might be the dumbest statement ever?? um how many more ps2 have been sold LTD than 360's of course itll have more people playing madden on it considering it has like a 10 million console advantage

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« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2006, 10:07:17 AM »
i could give a shit less how many copies of ff and mgs sold worldwide.

:lol

Why could you give a shit about how they sold? Your bringing two franchises that sell well (GTA and Madden) and then disregard MGS and Final Fantasy (Final Fantasy being one of the most sold RPGs, the Madden of the RPG sector).

We can all already speculate why your doing this in the first place Truffle.

and the reason why he brought up PS2 sales of Madden and compared it to the Xbox360 is  because its showing that people aren't dropping their hats and running to their nearest Gamestop to pick up Madden 07 for the 360.
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« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2006, 10:11:09 AM »
i could give a shit less how many copies of ff and mgs sold worldwide. of course ps3 will do well in japan, but it wont dominate this gen like it did last.  and your distinguished mentally-challenged if you dont think madden and gta sell consoles. and saying more people play madden on ps2 than 360 might be the dumbest statement ever?? um how many more ps2 have been sold LTD than 360's of course itll have more people playing madden on it considering it has like a 10 million console advantage

You know. It's better to do well in all regions than just one.

X360 is actually onluy doing good in America. The rest of the world doesn't care.

Ps3 will do well all across the word. And remember: Ps2 hardware sales in Japan >>>>>  worldwide Xbox sales.  :lol

Japan IS important.

Ps3 will do well in America, will do well in Europe and Japan. Succes guarranteed. #1 Worldwide guarranteed.

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« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2006, 10:12:16 AM »
im not necessarily disregarding them, as ill buy them no doubt. im just saying die hard gamers are just a small part of gamers, casual gamers account for more sales of consoles and games and the big games to them are madden, gta, halo....not mgs and final fantasy. with a price advantage and those games i wouldnt see why they would go for a ps3 ??? im not saying ps3 is dead, i plan on buying one and even though im dissapointed with the specs being constantly chagned its not a huge deal for me

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« Reply #26 on: August 29, 2006, 10:21:50 AM »
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big games to them are madden, gta, halo....not mgs and final fantasy.

I think you're confused.

According to you, casuals like Halo, GTA and Madded. Casuals are the majority. So why is Final Fantasy selling better than Halo?

Are there more hardcore FF fans than casual Halo fans?

Hmm...

Sony has the casual games AND the 'hardcore' games.

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« Reply #27 on: August 29, 2006, 10:23:29 AM »
I hate all next-gen systems equally. Does that make me the coolest?
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« Reply #28 on: August 29, 2006, 10:24:41 AM »
I hate all next-gen systems equally. Does that make me the coolest?

Are you a SEGA fan?

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« Reply #29 on: August 29, 2006, 10:28:00 AM »
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big games to them are madden, gta, halo....not mgs and final fantasy.

I think you're confused.

According to you, casuals like Halo, GTA and Madded. Casuals are the majority. So why is Final Fantasy selling better than Halo?

Are there more hardcore FF fans than casual Halo fans?

Hmm...

Sony has the casual games AND the 'hardcore' games.

your taking into account japan in your argument. we already know theyre wacky (see nintendo ds sales vs psp) omg a brain trainer on a portable nintendo 64!!! how cool

sony also has a $200 price difference which plays a huge role in what system casuals buy. im guessing a 360 price drop will come well before a ps3 drop too

what im trying to say is you cant write off the 360 this gen. i mean sonys most touted tech demo has been playable on the 360 since feb
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« Reply #30 on: August 29, 2006, 10:33:56 AM »
Time will tell. I think PS3 will end up having a considerable advantage over 360 graphically. BR-ROM is slow, but there's a hard drive you can use as a cache.

People were in the dark for months in the case of PS3's capabilities, with the Xbox 360 as an established system and a lot of vague comments telling that it was graphically superior or equal. I wondered if it was true.

So I took a DVD-R full of 720p trailers from both the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 and meticulously looked at how their performed on my HDTV.

The resulting perception was that PlayStation 3 games look better, if a bit austere texture and color-wise. They had that CGI-ish look to them, and were generally better animated than what I saw on Xbox 360 efforts, and had better lighting, whereas Xbox 360 titles failed to wow me in the same manner to instead recall me of the best performing PC games... of course that might slightly have to do with the fact that many PC developpers love the Xbox 360, but holistically I really do find this observation to be truthful.

And this is with a complex CPU architecture like CELL that isn't fully mastered yet, so over time as developpers will get to understand it and use it to its fullest potential, it's only rational to imagine that the graphics will be boosted.

Make no mistake, these are two roughly equivalent systems that can fully rivalize with one another, however there's no mistake in my view that the PS3 has the edge.
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« Reply #31 on: August 29, 2006, 10:34:00 AM »
I hate all next-gen systems equally. Does that make me the coolest?

Are you a SEGA fan?
Eh, somewhat. But if they made a new console, I'd hate it too.

PS2 for life.
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« Reply #32 on: August 29, 2006, 10:37:13 AM »
didnt you just buy a ps2 like 6 months ago?? or am i thinking of someone else

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« Reply #33 on: August 29, 2006, 10:38:19 AM »
didnt you just buy a ps2 like 6 months ago?? or am i thinking of someone else
No.







I bought it a month ago.  :lol :lol
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« Reply #34 on: August 29, 2006, 10:41:45 AM »
 :lol i thought you did.

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« Reply #35 on: August 29, 2006, 10:42:35 AM »
xbox 360 ftw
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« Reply #36 on: August 29, 2006, 10:51:18 AM »
I can't see the PS3 selling very well while it's priced at $500/$600.  Sorry.  Not with people tightening their budgets because of throwing their wallets at ever-rising gas prices and mortgage rates. 

And as for japan, the PS3 is far from having it in the bag.  Remember that poll that was done a few months ago?  People were also saying that the expensive PSP would be the death of Nintendo, and we all know how that turned out.  It'll be interesting to see where they're at a year from now.


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« Reply #37 on: August 29, 2006, 10:54:45 AM »
I can't see the PS3 selling very well while it's priced at $500/$600.  Sorry.  Not with people tightening their budgets because of throwing their wallets at ever-rising gas prices and mortgage rates. 

And as for japan, the PS3 is far from having it in the bag.  Remember that poll that was done a few months ago?  People were also saying that the expensive PSP would be the death of Nintendo, and we all know how that turned out.  It'll be interesting to see where they're at a year from now.



i agree, until it reaches around 399 or 299. same for 360 in a way, dunno.

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« Reply #38 on: August 29, 2006, 11:06:16 AM »
:lol @ thread

Ps3 will thrash competition anyway. I mean...Nintendo is kiddy and only Americans care about X360.  8)

 

Whoa, now all we need is Wollan and Kittonwy to sign up and complete the viral fanboy triumvirate!
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« Reply #39 on: August 29, 2006, 11:21:19 AM »
:lol @ thread

Ps3 will thrash competition anyway. I mean...Nintendo is kiddy and only Americans care about X360.  8)

 

Whoa, now all we need is Wollan and Kittonwy to sign up and complete the viral fanboy triumvirate!

I don't see anything wrong with my statement...

The Wii is just a Cube with a new controller. People did not really cared about the Cube. And I don't think they'll care about the Wii either. The Wiimote will get attention first, but it'll get old pretty fast. And the succes of the DS isn't an indication of what the Wii will do. Nintendo handhelds were always very succesful. GBA was very succesful -Ps2 level succesful- but it didn't help the Cube, at all.

And the X360 is only selling well in America. According to the newest numbers, the X360 is selling approx 18k units per week in whole Europe. While the Ps2 is doing approx 100k per week. And Japan is a lost region for MS.

Sure the Ps3 is an expensive console. But I remember people buying X360's @ Ebay for over a $1000. And since the Playstation brand is a lot bigger than the Xbox brand, people will eat it. For a long time too...


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« Reply #40 on: August 29, 2006, 11:26:38 AM »
A lot of people won't be going hungry next year.


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« Reply #41 on: August 29, 2006, 12:25:54 PM »
So a 50Mhz downgrade is what FINALLY turned the tide?  C'mon...

Willco, the console is more than 6 months late, it's supposed to be in manufacturing now (but isn't!), and they're STILL downgrading the thing?  You can't tell me this looks good for Sony, especially a week after they've been fingered as the culprit in the largest consumer electronics recall in history.

Also, 50MHz doesn't sound like much, but keep in mind that is about 10% of the GPU's clockspeed.  When you look at it like that, as a double digit loss in graphics processing capability, yes, it is something lame to be pulling at the 11th hour.

So now that it's getting downgraded, are they going to downgrade the price too?
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« Reply #42 on: August 29, 2006, 01:02:07 PM »
I think PS3 is going to be a failure in relative terms.  This will be the first generation where Sony will lose market share in all regions and probably not even be first in all regions.  They're going to lose almost all of their third party exclusives and the developers that remain "loyal" are going to learn a hard lesson.

It may still sell well and may even be profitable for Sony, but it's going to fail to entrench the BRD format (BRD will go the way of UMD) so that will be a big blow to Sony, and it's going to establish firmly in the minds of every video game consumer that there are two good alternatives to Sony, which could harm the PS line for the forseeable future.

The PS3 is Sony's big mistake.  It's like watching Nintendo ten years ago all over again.
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« Reply #43 on: August 29, 2006, 03:56:43 PM »
Look @ this:

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Some updates from Leipzig.

- Europe - On a weekly basis, PS2 outselling 360 100k to 18k. (BTW, the 100k/week means that the Europe is substantially ahead of the US in PS2 sales currently.

- 45% of SCEE's sales are outside of Europe (this is pretty mindboggling IMO). Russia, Middle East, Australia, NZ, etc). I'd have to imagine that because the HW releases were staggered over years, they are in a different part of the PS2 adoption curve than US & Europe.

- Germany 2006 HW Stats - PS2 61%, GC 17%, XBX 15%, 360 7%

- Germany 2006 SW Stats - PS2 69%, GC 11%, XBX 11%, 360 9%

- Germany 2006 HH HW Stats - DS 71%, PSP 29% (not including GBA)

- Germany 2006 HH SW Stats - DS 62%, PSP 38% (not including GBA)

That is just horrible. XflopThreeShitty is a flop in both Japan & Europe. I mean...only 18k units per week? While the Ps2 is doing 100k a week...

Damn...almost just as bad as Japan numbers. 8)

Won't be hard for Sony to top X360's numbers.

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« Reply #44 on: August 29, 2006, 04:44:08 PM »
Look @ this:

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Some updates from Leipzig.

- Europe - On a weekly basis, PS2 outselling 360 100k to 18k. (BTW, the 100k/week means that the Europe is substantially ahead of the US in PS2 sales currently.

- 45% of SCEE's sales are outside of Europe (this is pretty mindboggling IMO). Russia, Middle East, Australia, NZ, etc). I'd have to imagine that because the HW releases were staggered over years, they are in a different part of the PS2 adoption curve than US & Europe.

- Germany 2006 HW Stats - PS2 61%, GC 17%, XBX 15%, 360 7%

- Germany 2006 SW Stats - PS2 69%, GC 11%, XBX 11%, 360 9%

- Germany 2006 HH HW Stats - DS 71%, PSP 29% (not including GBA)

- Germany 2006 HH SW Stats - DS 62%, PSP 38% (not including GBA)

That is just horrible. XflopThreeShitty is a flop in both Japan & Europe. I mean...only 18k units per week? While the Ps2 is doing 100k a week...

Damn...almost just as bad as Japan numbers. 8)

Won't be hard for Sony to top X360's numbers.

bookmarked for future ownage

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Re: So, PS3 is dead
« Reply #45 on: August 29, 2006, 05:18:26 PM »
I think what actually matters to ME, is what sells a console TO ME, and its not a 600 dollar price point and a shitty batch of crap launch titles.

Ill buy it on the cheap 2 years after thanks. 360, DS Lite, and PSP have plenty for me to play in the meantime. Jesus christ 600 dollars.
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« Reply #46 on: August 29, 2006, 05:36:30 PM »
Why would you buy it 2 years later when it'll be DOA!
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« Reply #47 on: August 29, 2006, 05:39:08 PM »
The problem is that PS3 has been for the last few years actively trying to destroy it's image as a game system.

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« Reply #48 on: August 29, 2006, 05:41:39 PM »
The problem is that PS3 has been for the last few years actively trying to destroy it's image as a game system.

I dunno, personally, my dislike of set-top boxes has cooled down over the past 5 years.  I'm more offended that they're using the PS3 to shove their half-baked, shitty Blu-ray format down our throats.
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« Reply #49 on: August 29, 2006, 05:43:16 PM »
I dunno, personally, my dislike of set-top boxes has cooled down over the past 5 years.  I'm more offended that they're using the PS3 to shove their half-baked, shitty Blu-ray format down our throats.
Exactly, everything they've said is fucking stupid.  And I haven't been able to hear Kutaragi over the sound of him bullshitting himself for the past year.

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« Reply #50 on: August 29, 2006, 05:44:05 PM »
I think with enough money, any system can live a full cycle ;)
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Re: So, PS3 is dead
« Reply #51 on: August 29, 2006, 05:55:25 PM »
Look @ this:

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Some updates from Leipzig.

- Europe - On a weekly basis, PS2 outselling 360 100k to 18k. (BTW, the 100k/week means that the Europe is substantially ahead of the US in PS2 sales currently.

- 45% of SCEE's sales are outside of Europe (this is pretty mindboggling IMO). Russia, Middle East, Australia, NZ, etc). I'd have to imagine that because the HW releases were staggered over years, they are in a different part of the PS2 adoption curve than US & Europe.

- Germany 2006 HW Stats - PS2 61%, GC 17%, XBX 15%, 360 7%

- Germany 2006 SW Stats - PS2 69%, GC 11%, XBX 11%, 360 9%

- Germany 2006 HH HW Stats - DS 71%, PSP 29% (not including GBA)

- Germany 2006 HH SW Stats - DS 62%, PSP 38% (not including GBA)

That is just horrible. XflopThreeShitty is a flop in both Japan & Europe. I mean...only 18k units per week? While the Ps2 is doing 100k a week...

Damn...almost just as bad as Japan numbers. 8)

Won't be hard for Sony to top X360's numbers.

Jesus H. Jumped-Up Fucking Christ, man, do you ever shiver in embarrassment when you read your own posts?  Fuck's sake, do you really have that much personally invested in the life or death of a video game system that you actually  swell up with sunglass emoticon pride at quoting sales figures?  Sales figures, by the way, from which you see approximately 0% profit?

They need to make Xbox, Nintendo, and Sony video games about self-awareness, since that's the only way some of you delusionoids are ever going to experience it.
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Re: So, PS3 is dead
« Reply #52 on: August 29, 2006, 05:58:50 PM »
LETS PLAY BASEBALL
LETS DRIVE A BUS
LETS LOOK AT SALES CHARTS AND DRINK MOUNTAIN DEW
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Re: So, PS3 is dead
« Reply #53 on: August 29, 2006, 05:59:18 PM »
 :D

You take it way too seriously man...

I hate sports, so I cheer for something else.

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Re: So, PS3 is dead
« Reply #54 on: August 29, 2006, 06:01:03 PM »
Jesus H. Jumped-Up Fucking Christ, man, do you ever shiver in embarrassment when you read your own posts?  Fuck's sake, do you really have that much personally invested in the life or death of a video game system that you actually  swell up with sunglass emoticon pride at quoting sales figures?  Sales figures, by the way, from which you see approximately 0% profit?
They need to make Xbox, Nintendo, and Sony video games about self-awareness, since that's the only way some of you delusionoids are ever going to experience it.
wow.
I hate sports, so I cheer for something else.
Holy Fuck.

Eel O'Brian

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Re: So, PS3 is dead
« Reply #55 on: August 29, 2006, 06:01:31 PM »
LETS PLAY BASEBALL
LETS DRIVE A BUS
LETS LOOK AT SALES CHARTS AND DRINK MOUNTAIN DEW

X-TREME CHART QUOTING

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Eel O'Brian

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Re: So, PS3 is dead
« Reply #56 on: August 29, 2006, 06:07:30 PM »
:D

You take it way too seriously man...

I hate sports, so I cheer for something else.

It's just tiresome, man, because I have to dig through shtloads of it on just about every video game board thread I try to read.  That was actually a general gripe about people who give a shit about how much more their game system sells over another, and make it a point to research and dig up quotes when the only thing that really matters enjoying the games you're playing.  It could just as easily be applied to the neverending DS vs. PSP arguments, or the future Wii vs. X360/PS3 arguments.

EDIT:  Nevermind, you're mostly right, have fun, whatever floats your boat.
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Re: So, PS3 is dead
« Reply #57 on: August 29, 2006, 06:20:50 PM »
:D

You take it way too seriously man...

I hate sports, so I cheer for something else.

It's just tiresome, man, because I have to dig through shtloads of it on just about every video game board thread I try to read.  That was actually a general gripe about people who give a shit about how much more their game system sells over another, and make it a point to research and dig up quotes when the only thing that really matters enjoying the games you're playing.  It could just as easily be applied to the neverending DS vs. PSP arguments, or the future Wii vs. X360/PS3 arguments.

The world would be a boring place if everybody would agree with each other and have the same taste.

I mean...not everyone has to like all games or consoles. Sure, I enjoy all types of games and own multiple consoles. But if I don't like something, why should I keep it for myself?

I still don't see what I did wrong. Posting sales numbers is nothing but news and an update of the current situation of the games industry. I like games, so I like news related to games also.


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Re: So, PS3 is dead
« Reply #58 on: August 29, 2006, 07:20:30 PM »
wow an actual gaming thread

I find it weird that at this point, the 360 software interests me a lot more than the PS3 software, which is the total opposite of ps2/xbox.  There's really nothing announced for PS3 that excites me.  It's two overrated franchises and a bunch of all too similiar sounding games.

One of Sony's problems is going to be keeping up the fastfood software flow that helped make them #1 in the past, while still trying to have every game stand up to a graphical and production value that justifies the fat price tag.

Meanwhile, 360 has some stuff like Lost Planet, EDF, Viva Pinata and it seems a Minter XBLA game.  The problem with Xbox was that whenever it got a game that remotely interested me, I could just buy it on PC instead and have it run better. The games I listed, as far as I know, are not just PC ports.
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Re: So, PS3 is dead
« Reply #59 on: August 29, 2006, 07:54:19 PM »
wow an actual gaming thread

I find it weird that at this point, the 360 software interests me a lot more than the PS3 software, which is the total opposite of ps2/xbox.  There's really nothing announced for PS3 that excites me.  It's two overrated franchises and a bunch of all too similiar sounding games.

Once I got bored with JRPGs, there really wasn't all that much to keep me loyal to Sony.

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One of Sony's problems is going to be keeping up the fastfood software flow that helped make them #1 in the past, while still trying to have every game stand up to a graphical and production value that justifies the fat price tag.

I think what with insane dev costs, the days of fastfood software (good term, btw) are pretty much behind us.

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Meanwhile, 360 has some stuff like Lost Planet, EDF, Viva Pinata and it seems a Minter XBLA game.  The problem with Xbox was that whenever it got a game that remotely interested me, I could just buy it on PC instead and have it run better. The games I listed, as far as I know, are not just PC ports.

I wasn't all that happy with the original Xbox.  It had a few must have exclusives, and the multiplatform games were generally the best there.  I'm much happier with 360, and I think a large part of that is XBL, along with securing a pretty decent number of interesting titles in the first year.

I really hope there is a coup, because Sony's PS3 is just ridiculous.  Their hubris reminds me of Nintendo with the N64.
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