Does PD know anything about politics? Really?

[MrAngryFace]

I think we've all read enough of his stuff to have formed an opinion. Cept me cause I ignore most of his stuff out of habit. Cept when he trashes Unforgiven; that gets my back up.

ANYWAY,  I assume his usual trademark polarization with political pictures and avatars are what can be found in his political threads rather than any real original thought. In fact, are his opinions any better than say... the sum of "thought" contained in a CNN Talkback Live episode?

Should he be allowed to even vote?

[G The Resurrected]

I dont think he knows much about anything to be honest.

[MrAngryFace]

to be honest.

Hahahaha. Omg. Stop. My sides hurt.

[Cheebs]

[G The Resurrected]

to be honest.

Hahahaha. Omg. Stop. My sides hurt.

sarcasm? well you know its the truth. he doesnt even know how to install ram into his E-machine piece of shit.

[Cheebs]

to be honest.

Hahahaha. Omg. Stop. My sides hurt.

sarcasm? well you know its the truth. he doesnt even know how to install ram into his E-machine piece of shit.

he is implying you constantly lie kiddo

[Van Cruncheon]

pd reads plenty of blogs, but when i hear crap like "i want my leaders to have foreign policy experience" i realize he has no actual clue about how the american government and its various attendant political systems work

[G The Resurrected]

I was choosing to ignore that but thats fine. We know PD isnt all he's cracked up to be.

[The Fake Shemp]

pd reads plenty of blogs, but when i hear crap like "i want my leaders to have foreign policy experience" i realize he has no actual clue about how the american government and its various attendant political systems work

 

Phoenix Dark is like some weird amalgamation of typical conservative "moderate" talking heads, like Bill O'Reilly and Dennis Miller (I think he leans more to Miller) and liberal beat-around-the-bush'ers.  He's one of the biggest line straddlers I've ever seen and he really does seem to just regurgitate talking points at verbatim.

[Van Cruncheon]

yeah, you pretty much nailed it. he's so determined to be "against" which ever group has most recently irked him (usually when they loudly question tenets of his home school dogma) that he forfeits consistency and rationality on the altar of personal affront.

[Cheebs]

my favorite pdism's are his opposition to withdrawal from iraq always being weird talking points like not wanting "to abandon our troops in the field".

[The Fake Shemp]

 

IF WE PULL OUT NOW, THEN HOW WILL THE TROOPS GET HOME?

[Cheebs]

I still don't get where the conservative meme of "abandoning troops" came from.

Such as: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/7/13/163352.shtml

[Mupepe]

Michael Savage is the only talking head I listen to

[Phoenix Dark]

The funny thing is that I agree with Cheebs on nearly every political issue except troop withdrawel, but I'm still the whipping boy. And last time I checked no one here except Cheebs and Triumph offer any real discussion on political issues - without trolling that is.

[TVC15]

PD doesn't know anything about anything.  He's a teenager and thus just thinks he knows everything.  In a few years he will smarten up.

[Human Snorenado]

Pretty much.  The new mantra should be "Pee Dee don't know shit about shit."

[Mupepe]

The funny thing is that I agree with Cheebs on nearly every political issue except troop withdrawel, but I'm still the whipping boy. And last time I checked no one here except Cheebs and Triumph offer any real discussion on political issues - without trolling that is.

I don't troll.  I just regurgitate Michael Savage's latest rants

[Eel O'Brian]

Most of you operate at a "Junior High School combined with a Snaps album" level of political debate, so I don't think he's any worse.

[MrAngryFace]

IF WE PULL OUT NOW, THEN HOW WILL THE TROOPS GET HOME?

Haha, well Napoleon did it to his troops in Egypt.

[Phoenix Dark]

And Cheebs, you have my position on troop withdrawal wrong.

[Mupepe]

And Cheebs, you have my position on troop withdrawal wrong.

Bush spends like a drunken sailor!
                 -Michael Savage

[MrAngryFace]

Most of you operate at a "Junior High School combined with a Snaps album" level of political debate, so I don't think he's any worse.

I rarely debate politics because I ALMOST dont give a shit about politics on the national level because what I think does not matter. Bush doesnt like it? He'll slap it down. Whats the point raising my voice at a national level so I can have someone I didn't vote for, who stands for almost nothing I believe in and makes no attempt to understand where people like me come from slap down every idea for bizzaro reasons.

State politics or bust. If Obama doesnt win the democratic nomination im just gonna give up. Hillary's a crazy lady.

[Phoenix Dark]

Most of you operate at a "Junior High School combined with a Snaps album" level of political debate, so I don't think he's any worse.

I rarely debate politics because I ALMOST dont give a shit about politics on the national level because what I think does not matter. Bush doesnt like it? He'll slap it down. Whats the point raising my voice at a national level so I can have someone I didn't vote for, who stands for almost nothing I believe in and makes no attempt to understand where people like me come from slap down every idea for bizzaro reasons.

State politics or bust. If Obama doesnt win the democratic nomination im just gonna give up. Hillary's a crazy lady.

I normally don't support defeatist attitudes but I can co-sign this. If Hillary is the nominee I might just write in my presidential pick. Or, bite the bullet and pick the inevitable winner (RUDY!)

[Human Snorenado]

If Hillary is the nominee you guys should all join me in voting for whoever the peacenik candidate will be.  Probably Ralph.

[Phoenix Dark]

If Hillary is the nominee you guys should all join me in voting for whoever the peacenik candidate will be.  Probably Ralph.

I hate to say it, but I'd consider that. I just couldn't live with myself if my first presidential vote went to a Republican. What would I tell my grand kids?

[The Fake Shemp]

You won't tell them anything, because you'll never get laid and you will be impotent due to Global Warming.

[Van Cruncheon]

Most of you operate at a "Junior High School combined with a Snaps album" level of political debate, so I don't think he's any worse.

case in point!

[Mupepe]

I gave up on politics the day that 13 states signed it into law that same sex marriages were illegal.  fuck that.  fucking ridiculous.

[Eel O'Brian]

Most of you operate at a "Junior High School combined with a Snaps album" level of political debate, so I don't think he's any worse.

case in point!

We're not having a political debate.

[Van Cruncheon]

there's really no political party for gun-toting, death penalty loving, tax-apathetic, isolationist anti-religious progressives. i'd be a libertarian if it wasn't the party of antisocial psychopaths looking for any excuse to blame society for their alienation and thus their lack of participation.

i used to be fairly socialist, but as i've aged, i've discovered it really doesn't matter to me: i'm smart enough to get by in any system, although i'd prefer a fascist state where i am the god-emperor. the patent american brand of crony capitalism irks, though, because it lies to the lower classes. either suck adam smith's dick or get out of the free market restroom altogether, you quasi-oligarchic swishes!

edit: forgot isolationist.

[The Fake Shemp]

Shut up, Drinky!

[Mupepe]

there's really no political party for gun-toting, death penalty loving, tax-apathetic anti-religious preogressives.

qft

[Cheebs]

If Hillary is the nominee you guys should all join me in voting for whoever the peacenik candidate will be.  Probably Ralph.

Ralph is a egotistic tool who enjoys ruining elections he will never earn my vote in my life after fucking up the 2000 election.


Hillary > Rudy, like it or not I ain't voting for a pro-Iraq War candidate so Rudy is out. Obama has my primary vote locked but Hillary is a better choice than any republican barring one of my select few republicans I like (Ahnuld, Sen. John Warner, Sen. Arlen Specter, Sen. Chuck Hagel) some how magically being a nominee. As a political junkie I find the idea of a Rudy administration exciting just because of how entertaining it will be.

[Phoenix Dark]

If Hillary is the nominee you guys should all join me in voting for whoever the peacenik candidate will be.  Probably Ralph.

Ralph is a egotistic tool who enjoys ruining elections he will never earn my vote in my life after fucking up the 2000 election.


Hillary > Rudy, like it or not I ain't voting for a pro-Iraq War candidate so Rudy is out. As a political junkie I find the idea of a Rudy administration exciting just because of how entertaining it will be.

Ralph is a tool, yes. But I'd rather bite the bullet and vote for him than bite the turd and vote for Hillary.

Everyone knows Rudy's going to win it all

[Cheebs]

If Hillary is the nominee you guys should all join me in voting for whoever the peacenik candidate will be.  Probably Ralph.

Ralph is a egotistic tool who enjoys ruining elections he will never earn my vote in my life after fucking up the 2000 election.


Hillary > Rudy, like it or not I ain't voting for a pro-Iraq War candidate so Rudy is out. As a political junkie I find the idea of a Rudy administration exciting just because of how entertaining it will be.

Ralph is a tool, yes. But I'd rather bite the bullet and vote for him than bite the turd and vote for Hillary.

Everyone knows Rudy's going to win it all

That kind of logic is silly right now. They are statistically tied right now and my hunch is America is clueless on what Rudy's Iraq War stance is and to independents the war is a make or break issue still.

Voting for a candidate because you think it is unavoidable that they will win is insane. Reagan crushed Carter and it was unavoidable in the year before the election but I still would have voted Carter.

[Human Snorenado]

Saying Ralph has an ego is even a bit of a stretch.  Continue to believe the lie that he cost Gore the 2000 election if it makes you sleep easier, though.

[TVC15]

Why throw your vote away on someone like Nader?  If you're going to vote for him, why even bother voting at all.  You may as well vote for G.

[Human Snorenado]

Why throw your vote away on someone like Nader?  If you're going to vote for him, why even bother voting at all.  You may as well vote for G.

Principles and all that rot, love.  I wouldn't expect a dirty libertarian to understand.

[Phoenix Dark]

If Hillary is the nominee you guys should all join me in voting for whoever the peacenik candidate will be.  Probably Ralph.

Ralph is a egotistic tool who enjoys ruining elections he will never earn my vote in my life after fucking up the 2000 election.


Hillary > Rudy, like it or not I ain't voting for a pro-Iraq War candidate so Rudy is out. As a political junkie I find the idea of a Rudy administration exciting just because of how entertaining it will be.

Ralph is a tool, yes. But I'd rather bite the bullet and vote for him than bite the turd and vote for Hillary.

Everyone knows Rudy's going to win it all

That kind of logic is silly right now. They are statistically tied right now and my hunch is America is clueless on what Rudy's Iraq War stance is and to independents the war is a make or break issue still.

Voting for a candidate because you think it is unavoidable that they will win is insane. Reagan crushed Carter and it was unavoidable in the year before the election but I still would have voted Carter.

I probably would have voted for Reagan out of disgust, and for change; and then in 1992 I'd be like "damn, I was twicked!" Carter was a nice guy. Too nice. Perhaps the last actual Christian to preside in the White House (IE someone who didn't use it as some political talking point).

[The Fake Shemp]

I think we all know who really cost Al Gore the 2000 election...

spoiler (click to show/hide)

The Illuminati!

[close]

[Cheebs]

If Hillary is the nominee you guys should all join me in voting for whoever the peacenik candidate will be.  Probably Ralph.

Ralph is a egotistic tool who enjoys ruining elections he will never earn my vote in my life after fucking up the 2000 election.


Hillary > Rudy, like it or not I ain't voting for a pro-Iraq War candidate so Rudy is out. As a political junkie I find the idea of a Rudy administration exciting just because of how entertaining it will be.

Ralph is a tool, yes. But I'd rather bite the bullet and vote for him than bite the turd and vote for Hillary.

Everyone knows Rudy's going to win it all

That kind of logic is silly right now. They are statistically tied right now and my hunch is America is clueless on what Rudy's Iraq War stance is and to independents the war is a make or break issue still.

Voting for a candidate because you think it is unavoidable that they will win is insane. Reagan crushed Carter and it was unavoidable in the year before the election but I still would have voted Carter.

I probably would have voted for Reagan out of disgust, and for change; and then in 1992 I'd be like "damn, I was twicked!" Carter was a nice guy. Too nice. Perhaps the last actual Christian to preside in the White House (IE someone who didn't use it as some political talking point).

Carter did sunday school every sunday in the white house, very christian man

[Human Snorenado]

I think we all know who really cost Al Gore the 2000 election...

spoiler (click to show/hide)

The Illuminati!

[close]

Honestly, you can make any number of arguments about who cost Gore the 2000 election.  Was it the racial profiling that prevented tens of thousands of valid votes from being cast or counted in Florida?  Or maybe New Mexico?  Personally, I lay the blame with Gore.  He should have run a better campaign and stomped the everliving shit out of Bush.

[TVC15]

Why throw your vote away on someone like Nader?  If you're going to vote for him, why even bother voting at all.  You may as well vote for G.

Principles and all that rot, love.  I wouldn't expect a dirty libertarian to understand.

Awww, look, Triumph still believes in things!  He's as much a teenager as PD!

[Phoenix Dark]

If Hillary is the nominee you guys should all join me in voting for whoever the peacenik candidate will be.  Probably Ralph.

Ralph is a egotistic tool who enjoys ruining elections he will never earn my vote in my life after fucking up the 2000 election.


Hillary > Rudy, like it or not I ain't voting for a pro-Iraq War candidate so Rudy is out. As a political junkie I find the idea of a Rudy administration exciting just because of how entertaining it will be.

Ralph is a tool, yes. But I'd rather bite the bullet and vote for him than bite the turd and vote for Hillary.

Everyone knows Rudy's going to win it all

That kind of logic is silly right now. They are statistically tied right now and my hunch is America is clueless on what Rudy's Iraq War stance is and to independents the war is a make or break issue still.

Voting for a candidate because you think it is unavoidable that they will win is insane. Reagan crushed Carter and it was unavoidable in the year before the election but I still would have voted Carter.

I probably would have voted for Reagan out of disgust, and for change; and then in 1992 I'd be like "damn, I was twicked!" Carter was a nice guy. Too nice. Perhaps the last actual Christian to preside in the White House (IE someone who didn't use it as some political talking point).

Carter did sunday school every sunday in the white house, very christian man

Exactly. He was pretty damn amazing. If he had been president during a different and less complicated time he would have been regarded as a much better president. But then again it's kinda hard to pin point a good time in the 20th cen. considering much of it was bogged with one type of problem or another (End of Reconstruction, Depression, WWII, Cold War, Vietnam, etc). And I don't think he would have handled any of those issues well lol.

He still gets a high five from me

[Cheebs]

He would have been fine in the 90's lol. Peace time and all that. I wonder if Clinton would have been as beloved and won two elections rather easily during the cold war.

[Phoenix Dark]

He would have been fine in the 90's lol. Peace time and all that. I wonder if Clinton would have been as beloved and won two elections rather easily during the cold war.

I don't know. The 90's were a time of social change, and social decline in some ways - how would he react to that, from his Christian perspective? Some people would definitely take offense to that lol

[Cheebs]

social decline? Please don't say Monica. Many, if not most presidents(including George Bush Sr.) slept around.

[The Fake Shemp]

George W. Bush cheats on his wife with Condi.

[Cheebs]

George W. Bush cheats on his wife with Condi.

Condi is a lesbian thats my hunch. Single in her 50's, never seen on dates, and is obsessed with football? COME ON

[Mupepe]

George W. Bush cheats on his wife with Condi.

Condi is a lesbian thats my hunch. Single in her 50's, never seen on dates, and is obsessed with football? COME ON

No.  She's just black.

[Phoenix Dark]

social decline? Please don't say Monica. Many, if not most presidents(including George Bush Sr.) slept around.

Nah, of course I wasn't talking about good ol Monica.

http://wonkette.com/politics/condi/crazy-talk-we-cant-ignore-the-bushcondi-rumors-178417.php