I'm a sucker for independeance day type movies.

[Madrun Badrun]

I think it's because I'm Canadian and thus can't have much pride in our military, but when I see those save the world movies and the dumb smuck that due to odd circumstances has been placed in a role to save all humanity and he's like "Lets do this thang, Mr President"  and then shoots the nukes, I'm all smiles and cheers.  I feel foolish. 

It doesn't work when its a patriotic movie, but only when he whole worlds at sake. 


 

[CajoleJuice]

Dude, I'm watching Independence Day right now.

[MrAngryFace]

I hate the fucking speech and I hate randy quaid

[Madrun Badrun]

Dude, I'm watching Independence Day right now.

Me too!  On AMC?

I haven't seen this movie in so long.  I use to own it too. 

[CajoleJuice]

I have it on VHS.

"Let's nuke the bastards"

[Madrun Badrun]

Its right at the end and my face hurts form smiling.  When will smith and Jeff Goldbloom come back and their walking though the dessert smocking their cigars, lol. 

[Madrun Badrun]

Fuck now Commando is on and I've never seen it.  Goddamn it AMC don't you know I have homework to be done?   

[CajoleJuice]

It depends on how bad AMC butchers the movie. But you should watch anyhow. Classic cinema Commando is.

[Tauntaun]

Did you watch PurePwange yet nicca?

[Madrun Badrun]

Did you watch PurePwange yet nicca?

I didn't.  last 2 days have been pure homework 

[Powerslave]

Apocalyptic movies

[drozmight]

It's hilarious when they start planning the offensive, and they call the British and British commander is all, "THANK GOD! IT'S THE YANKS!"

[Ecrofirt]

Is that glass bulletproof?

[Boogie]

I think it's because I'm Canadian and thus can't have much pride in our military
 

wtf? 

[Himu]

My dad is watching ID now. He loves the movie to death.

[Madrun Badrun]

I think it's because I'm Canadian and thus can't have much pride in our military
 

wtf? 

Do you know our first navy ship - given to us by the British - was called the Rainbow...Rainbow

Actatly I'm proud that were peace keepers, just that doesn't give me the giddyness of of independence day proportions. 

[Mupepe]

I think it's because I'm Canadian and thus can't have much pride in our military
 

wtf? 

Do you know our first navy ship - given to us by the British - was called the Rainbow...Rainbow

Actatly I'm proud that were peace keepers, just that doesn't give me the giddyness of of independence day proportions. 

who do you think would win in a war between the US and Canada?

[Boogie]

I think it's because I'm Canadian and thus can't have much pride in our military
 

wtf? 

Do you know our first navy ship - given to us by the British - was called the Rainbow...Rainbow

Actatly I'm proud that were peace keepers, just that doesn't give me the giddyness of of independence day proportions. 

Vimy Ridge?  Ypres? Juno Beach? Our contributions in the liberation of the Netherlands, and the campaign in Italy? At the end of World War 2 we had the third largest navy in the world.

Just because we've never been a superpower doesn't mean we don't have a proud military history.

[Madrun Badrun]

I think it's because I'm Canadian and thus can't have much pride in our military
 

wtf? 

Do you know our first navy ship - given to us by the British - was called the Rainbow...Rainbow

Actatly I'm proud that were peace keepers, just that doesn't give me the giddyness of of independence day proportions. 

who do you think would win in a war between the US and Canada?

We'll I don't think theres a question of whether your military could be ours it would be about if you could assimulat us properly.  I think seeing how most of our population is low to the boarder you could easily annex it, and as long as the American regime isn't to hard, we would give up fighting in a few decades, but i think there would always be some freedom fighters that would live up north or in the mountains.     

[Mupepe]

we'd just make a bunch of wal marts and mcdonalds in the moutains to lure them out and then bomb said wal mart and mcdonalds.

no one can resist a wal mart and mcdonald, and they both tend to pop up in places with no population.

if we want to be really evil, we'll build one of those wal marts with a mcdonalds inside.

[Madrun Badrun]

I think it's because I'm Canadian and thus can't have much pride in our military
 

wtf? 

Do you know our first navy ship - given to us by the British - was called the Rainbow...Rainbow

Actatly I'm proud that were peace keepers, just that doesn't give me the giddyness of of independence day proportions. 

Vimy Ridge?  Ypres? Juno Beach? Our contributions in the liberation of the Netherlands, and the campaign in Italy? At the end of World War 2 we had the third largest navy in the world.

Just because we've never been a superpower doesn't mean we don't have a proud military history.

Thats true, but it doesn't give me pride in a military sense, it gives me pride in us a nation and I think there is a difference.  I think military pride is having the strength to enforce, with the US has, and the knowledge to know when to us it correctly, US not so much. 

The battles you refer too, I think our contribution was much more of a community sense of gathering together to fight wrong, and that is a much better pride, but i don't count it as traditional military pride.   

[Madrun Badrun]

we'd just make a bunch of wal marts and mcdonalds in the moutains to lure them out and then bomb said wal mart and mcdonalds.

no one can resist a wal mart and mcdonald, and they both tend to pop up in places with no population.

if we want to be really evil, we'll build one of those wal marts with a mcdonalds inside.

I think you should call up Bush with this tactic.  Iraq could still be won!   

[Boogie]

Thats true, but it doesn't give me pride in a military sense, it gives me pride in us a nation and I think there is a difference.  I think military pride is having the strength to enforce, with the US has, and the knowledge to know when to us it correctly, US not so much. 

The battles you refer too, I think our contribution was much more of a community sense of gathering together to fight wrong, and that is a much better pride, but i don't count it as traditional military pride.   

That doesn't make an awful lot of sense to me.  Military pride doesn't mean that you have the biggest most powerful military around.  It means that your military has contributed in difficult conflicts, that they have been effective and made tough sacrifices.  It has nothing to do with size or who has the most expensive toys.

[Madrun Badrun]

But I think it does.  How are we to contribute to difficult times when we don't have a powerful military?  I think in a historical sense yes there is a lot to be said on our actions but if another large scale war was to happen, we'd be effectively useless and thats where i loss my sense of pride.  I guess I have pride historically but not with our current military as a world force, but i do as peace keepers.   

Going back to what i said before, military pride to me is power and knowledge.  We have the knowledge but not the power.  And there is a lot to be said about power, though I consider it less than knowledge.  But power gives us a much stronger position on the world scale.  take for example the Iraq war, we were against it.  If we had a powerful military such as the British, our lack of involvement in the situation would have been a far more powerful statement on the war than it did.   

[Mupepe]

canadian on canadian violence

[Boogie]

But I think it does.  How are we to contribute to difficult times when we don't have a powerful military?  I think in a historical sense yes there is a lot to be said on our actions but if another large scale war was to happen, we'd be effectively useless and thats where i loss my sense of pride.  I guess I have pride historically but not with our current military as a world force, but i do as peace keepers.   

Except the geopolitical situation doesn't require an army for a "large scale war".  And few countries have ever been prepared beforehand for a large scale war.  We didn't have a huge military establishment in 1939.  Neither did the US.

You want to see our contribution today?  Look to Afghanistan.  We have three thousand troops there and are one of the few countries willing to put troops in the south where the danger is.  That's something to be "proud" of, that our military has a tradition of being willing to take on dangerous and difficult tasks.

[Mupepe]

i'm eating tomatoes

[Madrun Badrun]

But I think it does.  How are we to contribute to difficult times when we don't have a powerful military?  I think in a historical sense yes there is a lot to be said on our actions but if another large scale war was to happen, we'd be effectively useless and thats where i loss my sense of pride.  I guess I have pride historically but not with our current military as a world force, but i do as peace keepers.   

Except the geopolitical situation doesn't require an army for a "large scale war".  And few countries have ever been prepared beforehand for a large scale war.  We didn't have a huge military establishment in 1939.  Neither did the US.

You want to see our contribution today?  Look to Afghanistan.  We have three thousand troops there and are one of the few countries willing to put troops in the south where the danger is.  That's something to be "proud" of, that our military has a tradition of being willing to take on dangerous and difficult tasks.

But thats what I'm say.  I am proud of peace keeping but to me it is a different kind of pride. 

[Boogie]

But I think it does.  How are we to contribute to difficult times when we don't have a powerful military?  I think in a historical sense yes there is a lot to be said on our actions but if another large scale war was to happen, we'd be effectively useless and thats where i loss my sense of pride.  I guess I have pride historically but not with our current military as a world force, but i do as peace keepers.   

Except the geopolitical situation doesn't require an army for a "large scale war".  And few countries have ever been prepared beforehand for a large scale war.  We didn't have a huge military establishment in 1939.  Neither did the US.

You want to see our contribution today?  Look to Afghanistan.  We have three thousand troops there and are one of the few countries willing to put troops in the south where the danger is.  That's something to be "proud" of, that our military has a tradition of being willing to take on dangerous and difficult tasks.

But thats what I'm say.  I am proud of peace keeping but to me it is a different kind of pride. 

Afghanistan isn't "peacekeeping".  Neither were any of the battles and campaigns I mentioned before.  Hell, the government is getting flamed from the left from people saying that we shouldn't be in Afghanistan, that it's not peacekeeping.

[Madrun Badrun]

I haven't watched the news since Iraq started.  Whats happening in afgan with us?  When we went it seemed to me that we had the intention of peace keeping after the removal of the taliban. 

[Smooth Groove]

I haven't watched the news since Iraq started.  Whats happening in afgan with us?  When we went it seemed to me that we had the intention of peace keeping after the removal of the taliban. 

Do you really want to get educated on world affairs from this forum?

[Boogie]

I haven't watched the news since Iraq started.  Whats happening in afgan with us?  When we went it seemed to me that we had the intention of peace keeping after the removal of the taliban. 

dude, the Taliban didn't just roll over and die.  They still exist, and are still fighting an insurgency campaign in the south of Afghanistan.  Canada has the second most casualties in Afghanistan behind the US, and are actively contributing in military campaigns against the remnants of the Taliban.  We've had 54 deaths in Afghanistan.

Do you really want to get educated on world affairs from this forum?

Quiet you.

[Ichirou]

Yeah, the Taliban are still kicking and causing trouble.  The situation would be different if we hadn't invaded Iraq, I believe.  Stupid Bush.

[Madrun Badrun]

I haven't watched the news since Iraq started.  Whats happening in afgan with us?  When we went it seemed to me that we had the intention of peace keeping after the removal of the taliban. 

dude, the Taliban didn't just roll over and die.  They still exist, and are still fighting an insurgency campaign in the south of Afghanistan.  Canada has the second most casualties in Afghanistan behind the US, and are actively contributing in military campaigns against the remnants of the Taliban.  We've had 54 deaths in Afghanistan.

O.  I thought active campaigns would have been far done by now.  54 deaths is a lot less than I would have thought though. 

[Boogie]

O.  I thought active campaigns would have been far done by now.  54 deaths is a lot less than I would have thought though. 

Our casualty rate in Afghanistan is very similar to the American casualty rate in Iraq.  There's just far fewer total deaths because we have far fewer total troops deployed.

[Madrun Badrun]

O.  I thought active campaigns would have been far done by now.  54 deaths is a lot less than I would have thought though. 

Our casualty rate in Afghanistan is very similar to the American casualty rate in Iraq.  There's just far fewer total deaths because we have far fewer total troops deployed.

Still we're been in their what 5 years now?  11, a year out of 3000 thats not bad. 

[Boogie]

O.  I thought active campaigns would have been far done by now.  54 deaths is a lot less than I would have thought though. 

Our casualty rate in Afghanistan is very similar to the American casualty rate in Iraq.  There's just far fewer total deaths because we have far fewer total troops deployed.

Still we're been in their what 5 years now?  11, a year out of 3000 thats not bad. 

ya, well tell that to the 54.6 percent of Canadians who would want to pull our troops out of the country if we keep taking casualties at this rate.

[Madrun Badrun]

O.  I thought active campaigns would have been far done by now.  54 deaths is a lot less than I would have thought though. 

Our casualty rate in Afghanistan is very similar to the American casualty rate in Iraq.  There's just far fewer total deaths because we have far fewer total troops deployed.

Still we're been in their what 5 years now?  11, a year out of 3000 thats not bad. 

ya, well tell that to the 54.6 percent of Canadians who would want to pull our troops out of the country if we keep taking casualties at this rate.

We'll i think it's just because I truly haven't heard a thing about the war for years so it doesn't seem so bad just looking at the numbers instead of hearing on the news everytime a solder dies. 

So I take it the conservatives aren't doing well in power?  lol, give me a run down of current national affairs, lol. 

[Boogie]

So I take it the conservatives aren't doing well in power?  lol, give me a run down of current national affairs, lol. 

man, I don't know, I mostly follow international news over national affairs

there was something about Parliament raising a stink about Shane Doan being named Captain for Team Canada at this year's World Hockey Championship when he allegedly made a slur against French Canadians two years ago.

Fucking useless politicians. 

and the Green Party leader compared some people to Nazis.

[Madrun Badrun]

So I take it the conservatives aren't doing well in power?  lol, give me a run down of current national affairs, lol. 

man, I don't know, I mostly follow international news over national affairs

I fallow neither.     And it was actually the iraq war that did it, I seemed to loss my faith in humanity, lol.

[Madrun Badrun]

"there was something about Parliament raising a stink about Shane Doan being named Captain for Team Canada at this year's World Hockey Championship when he allegedly made a slur against French Canadians two years ago.

Fucking useless politicians.  Roll Eyes"

sigh.  I think I'm actually glad I stopped watching.

[Boogie]

The girlfriend says that an election will likely be called in the next couple months.

[Madrun Badrun]

The girlfriend says that an election will likely be called in the next couple months.

who's the most likely to get in?  NDP?

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