Author Topic: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997) (Read 4899 times)

Cheebs · « **on:** June 19, 2007, 10:22:31 PM »

As most of you know the afi top 100 of all time is the "standard" and what is most used to know what are considered classics. AFI is redoing the list for the first time since 1997. WILL LORD OF THE RINGS TOP CITIZEN KANE!?!?!

Titanic will probably get on the list lol. Will be interesting to see how different it is.

Other noteworthy films I expected to be in it are Saving Private Ryan and perhaps the departed since it is so fresh in critics minds. It airs at 8 PM tomorrow on CBS.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #1 on:** June 19, 2007, 10:26:43 PM »

standard?

okay, if it gets Haggis' shitty crash on there than it's a completely worthless standard.

TVC15 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 19, 2007, 10:27:49 PM »

How bout you post the old list to foster some god-damned discussion?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #3 on:** June 19, 2007, 10:34:07 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on June 19, 2007, 10:27:49 PM

How bout you post the old list to foster some god-damned discussion?

He's triflin like that
http://www.filmsite.org/afi100filmsA.html

Cheebs · « **Reply #4 on:** June 19, 2007, 10:36:00 PM »

Quote from: am nintenho on June 19, 2007, 10:26:43 PM

standard?

afi's top 100 is the standard in the industry. it is the most prestigious film "award" (if being on a list is an award) outside the oscars, easily.

btw the list is hosted by MORGAN FREEMAN

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #5 on:** June 19, 2007, 10:38:01 PM »

Can't wait to see LOTR on there

Cheebs · « **Reply #6 on:** June 19, 2007, 10:38:42 PM »

Quote from: Michelle the Fibber on June 19, 2007, 10:38:01 PM

Can't wait to see LOTR on there

I bet fellowship will make the list

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #7 on:** June 19, 2007, 10:40:00 PM »

btw...

Rear Window>>>>>Psycho. And I think Psycho is awesome so no hatin. But Rear Window is one of the best acted, directed, and best written films I've ever seen. Plus it's very technically impressive. I need to revive my top ten and put it in there

brawndolicious · « **Reply #8 on:** June 19, 2007, 10:51:16 PM »

Quote from: Cheebs on June 19, 2007, 10:36:00 PM

afi's top 100 is the standard in the industry. it is the most prestigious film "award" (if being on a list is an award) outside the oscars, easily.
btw the list is hosted by MORGAN FREEMAN

there's a high chance crash will be on there so I personally don't see how anybody could give a shit.

not even a small shit.

Cheebs · « **Reply #9 on:** June 19, 2007, 10:52:38 PM »

Quote from: am nintenho on June 19, 2007, 10:51:16 PM

Quote from: Cheebs on June 19, 2007, 10:36:00 PM
afi's top 100 is the standard in the industry. it is the most prestigious film "award" (if being on a list is an award) outside the oscars, easily.
btw the list is hosted by MORGAN FREEMAN
there's a high chance crash will be on there so I personally don't see how anybody could give a shit.

not even a small shit.

oscars gave crash best picture winner and people still give a shit about the oscars, they will still give a shit about afi and I am pretty damn sure crash WON'T make the list. It will still be 90% movies from before 1980's.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #10 on:** June 19, 2007, 11:15:44 PM »

Quote from: Cheebs on June 19, 2007, 10:52:38 PM

oscars gave crash best picture winner and people still give a shit about the oscars, they will still give a shit about afi and I am pretty damn sure crash WON'T make the list. It will still be 90% movies from before 1980's.

That comparison doesn't really make sense since crash was basically a pity oscar that nobody really cared about. The only worthwhile reason I could see for oscar's is betting on what will win and no, you never bet on what you like.

If it was about say a SPECIFIC part of the movie that was impressive (writing, special effects, etc.) then it could have more of a reason and make a decent discussion but this has completely different types of movies and a paragraph. Why give a fuck really?

I'd rather play wii sports. Boxing.

Ichirou · « **Reply #11 on:** June 19, 2007, 11:30:46 PM »

Uh..dudes...

This is the American Film Institute list. Lord of the Rings was made in New Zealand with a mostly non-American cast, what makes you guys think it's going to be on this list?

EvilBoris · « **Reply #12 on:** June 19, 2007, 11:42:59 PM »

The Graduate at No. 7.... How did that happen?
Anyway, scanning through the list I'm pretty keen on the crowd pleasing spirit of its compilation. LA Confidential has a strong chance in joining up the higher ranks. A Fish Called Wanda deserves more recognition...
12 Angry Men is the kind of movie that would also fit right in list.... I'm not sure how their radar didn't pick that one up earlier.

Oh, and David Lean was a brit who usually worked with a non-American cast, and Kubrick mainly did his job from England, right? No trouble for their films to be on the list.

Cheebs · « **Reply #13 on:** June 19, 2007, 11:43:03 PM »

Quote from: Ichirou on June 19, 2007, 11:30:46 PM

Uh..dudes...

This is the American Film Institute list. Lord of the Rings was made in New Zealand with a mostly non-American cast, what makes you guys think it's going to be on this list?

it's on the list of nominee's for the top 100. AFI has listed it as able to win. It was part of the 1000 films sent to critics to pick the top 100 from.

If it is filmed in english it can be on the list.

Ichirou · « **Reply #14 on:** June 19, 2007, 11:43:40 PM »

Just because it was financed by New Line? That's dumb. I thought AFI was a bit more discriminating about that sort of thing.

Cheebs · « **Reply #15 on:** June 19, 2007, 11:44:11 PM »

Quote from: Ichirou on June 19, 2007, 11:43:40 PM

Just because it was financed by New Line? That's dumb.

because it was filmed in english I believe. I saw british films on the list when it was shown months back.

Ichirou · « **Reply #16 on:** June 20, 2007, 12:38:05 AM »

The Third Man? Okay, this list is officially stupid.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #17 on:** June 20, 2007, 12:43:45 AM »

I need to see that movie

TVC15 · « **Reply #18 on:** June 20, 2007, 01:22:13 AM »

Quote from: Billy Rygar on June 20, 2007, 12:09:33 AM

Quote from: Ichirou on June 19, 2007, 11:43:40 PM
Just because it was financed by New Line? That's dumb. I thought AFI was a bit more discriminating about that sort of thing.
The Third Man is on the list.

What the fuck? How could they justify that?

We can now disregard this:

Quote from: Cheebs on June 19, 2007, 10:36:00 PM

afi's top 100 is the standard in the industry. it is the most prestigious film "award" (if being on a list is an award) outside the oscars, easily.

btw the list is hosted by MORGAN FREEMAN

AFI awards don't mean shit if the rules are going to be changed so that EVERYTHING is American.

Ichirou · « **Reply #19 on:** June 20, 2007, 01:49:43 AM »

The Third Man should be on the BFI list, if anything.

TVC15 · « **Reply #20 on:** June 20, 2007, 01:55:05 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on June 20, 2007, 01:49:43 AM

The Third Man should be on the BFI list, if anything.

It is. It's number 1.

TVC15 · « **Reply #21 on:** June 20, 2007, 02:02:49 AM »

FYI, I just looked at the ballot. There are 400 candidates, not 1000. So basically, 25% of the candidates will appear on the list. There's really not that much selecting to be done. This is stupid bullshit. . .

And about the nomineees, well, let's just say SLEEPLESS IN SEATTLE is on the list. Truly one of the 400 greatest American movies. Well, less than 400, since there are non-American movies on the list.

Ichirou · « **Reply #22 on:** June 20, 2007, 02:17:20 AM »

I suspected it before, but now I'm sure. AFI is bullshit. I mean, you only have to look at their other lists like "100 years...100 screams" and "100 years...100 laughs." EL OH EL

This list is for the ignorant dumbasses who'll watch the AFI special on TV, and the fact that they're including options like SLEEPLESS IN SEATTLE only cements my belief. I prefer the Sight and Sound list, it lets the filmmakers and critics fill out the questionnaires with whatever movies they want, no matter how famous, cheesy, or obscure.

TVC15 · « **Reply #23 on:** June 20, 2007, 02:28:05 AM »

Quote from: Ichirou on June 20, 2007, 02:17:20 AM

I suspected it before, but now I'm sure. AFI is bullshit. I mean, you only have to look at their other lists like "100 years...100 screams" and "100 years...100 laughs." EL OH EL

This list is for the ignorant dumbasses who'll watch the AFI special on TV, and the fact that they're including options like SLEEPLESS IN SEATTLE only cements my belief. I prefer the Sight and Sound list, it lets the filmmakers and critics fill out the questionnaires with whatever movies they want, no matter how famous, cheesy, or obscure. Erin Brockovich is on the list. . .

It's just a bad list of candidates. There are probably actually 250 viable candidates on the list, and half of them are ol or silent shit that few will vote for these days.

I quit looking, but there are tons of really stupid things on there. All 3 LOTR movies are on it. Rocky Horror (which isn't an American movie, and probably shouldn't even be on the list) is there. POTC 1 is on it. Shrek. There's Something About Mary. Spider-Man 2. Jurassic Park. American Beauty. A Clockwork Orange (I guess this is debatable--Kubrick is an American, but it was written by a brit, the money was british, and the cast and crew were british). Paul Faggis's Crash is indeed on the list.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #24 on:** June 20, 2007, 02:29:26 AM »

There's Something About Mary is quality cinema.

TVC15 · « **Reply #25 on:** June 20, 2007, 02:31:06 AM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on June 20, 2007, 02:29:26 AM

There's Something About Mary is quality cinema.

But 100 best american movies ever quality?

There are likely 250 viable candidates on the list, and a good portion of those are old, sometimes silent movies that are increasingly not seen very often. I bet someone with more insight into the selection process, knowing the ins and outs, could probably predict with a fine degree of accuracy what will turn up on the list.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #26 on:** June 20, 2007, 02:31:38 AM »

Oh yeah, of course not.

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Dumb and Dumber

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Ichirou · « **Reply #27 on:** June 20, 2007, 02:33:14 AM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on June 20, 2007, 02:28:05 AM

I quit looking, but there are tons of really stupid things on there. All 3 LOTR movies are on it. Rocky Horror (which isn't an American movie, and probably shouldn't even be on the list) is there. POTC 1 is on it. Shrek. There's Something About Mary. Spider-Man 2. Jurassic Park. American Beauty. A Clockwork Orange (I guess this is debatable--Kubrick is an American, but it was written by a brit, the money was british, and the cast and crew were british). Paul Faggis's Crash is indeed on the list.

Wow, the mind boggles at how stupid a lot of those choices are. Seriously.

I liked American Beauty, though.

TVC15 · « **Reply #28 on:** June 20, 2007, 02:35:02 AM »

Tod Browning's Freaks is also on the list--a movie whose only merit is that it is freaky because it used REAL FREAKS!

EDIT: Gandhi is also on the list, another movie that had nothing to do with American film.

Ichirou · « **Reply #29 on:** June 20, 2007, 02:38:54 AM »

There are movies like Freaks that are necessary viewing for reasons entirely separate to whether they're good films or not.

This AFI list is re-tahhh-ded.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #30 on:** June 20, 2007, 02:41:28 AM »

I wish they'd get the non-American films off the list, so there would be more room for, ya know, actual American cinema.

TVC15 · « **Reply #31 on:** June 20, 2007, 02:42:34 AM »

There are also a fair number of Bond movies on the list. This is a poorly defined area (Moulin Rouge also falls into it)-- these are international movies. They don't belong to any one country. They have varied casts and crews. Nowhere is it clearly defined what makes something an "American" film.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #32 on:** June 20, 2007, 03:09:20 AM »

You guys should post your top ten lists in this thread. I need to revise my list, bad. Although the top tier will stay the same

1. To Kill a Mockingbird
2. Imitation of Life
3. It's a Wonderful Life
4. Rear Window (*new entry)
5. The Godfather

Stuff that will be considered for the top ten
-The Shawshank Redemption

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-Forrest Gump

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-The Bad Seed
-Spartacus
-The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
-Mutiny on the Bounty
-Brazil
-Amadeus
-Raiders of the Lost Arc
-Alien

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #33 on:** June 20, 2007, 03:42:29 AM »

No Big Lebowski, no sale.

TVC15 · « **Reply #34 on:** June 20, 2007, 03:46:29 AM »

Quote from: Raoul Duke on June 20, 2007, 03:42:29 AM

No Big Lebowski, no sale.

Fargo is on the list, but that's it

Not even the superior Oh Brother.

Spider-Man 2 is on the fucking list. Spider-fucking-man 2. This list is stupid bullshit no matter what Cheebs wants you to believe.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #35 on:** June 20, 2007, 03:49:11 AM »

For 1995, there's 7 nominees and Se7en is not one of them. Fuck that shit.

TVC15 · « **Reply #36 on:** June 20, 2007, 03:50:44 AM »

connect.afi.com

You have to sign up for the site. It is free.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #37 on:** June 20, 2007, 03:52:53 AM »

I'm looking at the old list of nominees...that website has the new one, TVC?

TVC15 · « **Reply #38 on:** June 20, 2007, 03:55:47 AM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on June 20, 2007, 03:52:53 AM

I'm looking at the old list of nominees...that website has the new one, TVC?

If that doesn't work, just go to AFI.com and follow the relevant links to get the ballot.

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #39 on:** June 20, 2007, 04:03:24 AM »

Harry Potter is on that list. Jesus Christ.

Cheebs · « **Reply #40 on:** June 20, 2007, 08:28:08 AM »

Quote from: Raoul Duke on June 20, 2007, 03:42:29 AM

No Big Lebowski, no sale.

Why would it be? Coen Brothers have done better films. O Brother, Fargo, & Raising Arizona.

Himu · « **Reply #41 on:** June 20, 2007, 10:45:16 AM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on June 20, 2007, 04:03:24 AM

Harry Potter is on that list. Jesus Christ.

How the fuck is that even possible? I thought Harry Potter was BRITISH.

EvilBoris · « **Reply #42 on:** June 20, 2007, 10:58:43 AM »

I personally thought he was Belgian :/

Cheebs · « **Reply #43 on:** June 20, 2007, 11:30:09 AM »

you guys are idiots. Do you honestly think harry potter or something about mary will be on the top 100 of all time?

Also the AFI picks movies that are in ENGLISH. The oscars use the same standard for foreign pictures.

About 90-95 of the top 100 will be films made before 1975.

Tauntaun · « **Reply #44 on:** June 20, 2007, 11:38:22 AM »

I like movies, WAAAA! :'( /emo

TVC15 · « **Reply #45 on:** June 20, 2007, 12:10:25 PM »

Quote from: Cheebs on June 20, 2007, 11:30:09 AM

you guys are idiots. Do you honestly think harry potter or something about mary will be on the top 100 of all time?

Also the AFI picks movies that are in ENGLISH. The oscars use the same standard for foreign pictures.

So we should just rename the English language American now? Because that requirement is non-sensical. Why do American's cave to co-opt movies from other countries? As if we aren't imperialistic enough.

AFI is stupid bullshit. If the AFI can pick British movies, that renders the BFI effectively useless. AFI is distinguished mentally-challenged. FUCK THIS LIST. FUCK CHEEBS.

Say, Cheebs, should they start letting American films on the next BFI list?

http://www.bfi.org.uk/features/bfi100/

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #46 on:** June 20, 2007, 12:14:30 PM »

If there's one thing I've learned about Cheebs it's that he's very impressionable and he seems to love following public opinion/party line. Someone "smarter" than him says the AFI is the be all end all? IT MUST BE. Someone more influencial than him says this is how it is? IT HAS TO BE

No wonder he's so obsessed with Hillary's republican days - it mirrors his own conserva-closeted psyche

TVC15 · « **Reply #47 on:** June 20, 2007, 12:15:45 PM »

I can't believe he's defending the fact that there are only 400 movies to select from. More bullshit!

Cheebs · « **Reply #48 on:** June 20, 2007, 12:17:24 PM »

PD you were the one who used the afi top 100 to show what important films you have seen in a thread here.

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #49 on:** June 20, 2007, 12:24:04 PM »

When this list came out in 1997 I remember that Star wars was number 9. What happend to that?

Also AFI confirms that Star Wars > ChinaTown

AND Star Wars > Annie hall (Star Wars was robbed at the oscars)

CajoleJuice · « **Reply #50 on:** June 20, 2007, 12:26:22 PM »

Quote from: Cheebs on June 20, 2007, 11:30:09 AM

you guys are idiots. Do you honestly think harry potter or something about mary will be on the top 100 of all time?

Also the AFI picks movies that are in ENGLISH. The oscars use the same standard for foreign pictures.

About 90-95 of the top 100 will be films made before 1975.

Why the fuck are they even in the top 400 of all-time? Honestly...fucking SHREK?!?!?

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #51 on:** June 20, 2007, 12:27:21 PM »

Am I the only one that doesnt like the Wizard of Oz at all?

I didnt see Brazil. Is it considered a foreign movie?

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #52 on:** June 20, 2007, 12:28:21 PM »

How are these lists compiled? Do people judge movies in a vacuum or within a historical context?

FlameOfCallandor · « **Reply #53 on:** June 20, 2007, 12:29:06 PM »

This list is not the one that was released in 1997. Empire Strikes back was on the 1997 list.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #54 on:** June 20, 2007, 12:34:33 PM »

Quote from: Cheebs on June 20, 2007, 12:17:24 PM

PD you were the one who used the afi top 100 to show what important films you have seen in a thread here.

I just wanted to point out how few movies I had seen, and the list was helpful. What's wrong with that? I'm not pimping it like it's the Ten Commandments.

TVC15 · « **Reply #55 on:** June 20, 2007, 04:44:02 PM »

Quote from: FlameOfCallandor on June 20, 2007, 12:27:21 PM

Am I the only one that doesnt like the Wizard of Oz at all?

I didnt see Brazil. Is it considered a foreign movie?

I am fairly certain Brazil was at least on the ballot for the new 100. I would also not classify it as an American film. All the writers, the director, and the main cast (aside from Dinero) are brits. The producers were Americans, I think. I guess it would fall into the category of "international" movies, like the Bond flicks.

Cheebs · « **Reply #56 on:** June 20, 2007, 06:01:19 PM »

Quote from: CajoleJuice on June 20, 2007, 12:26:22 PM

Quote from: Cheebs on June 20, 2007, 11:30:09 AM
you guys are idiots. Do you honestly think harry potter or something about mary will be on the top 100 of all time?

Also the AFI picks movies that are in ENGLISH. The oscars use the same standard for foreign pictures.

About 90-95 of the top 100 will be films made before 1975.

Why the fuck are they even in the top 400 of all-time? Honestly...fucking SHREK?!?!?

those aren't top 400 of all time. those are 400 choices. they put in MANY recent titles as the focus with just re-using the old 100 classics. it was structured to give more chances to vote in newer films, not that they are the top 400.

It's basically previous 100 + 250 (with about 50 or so new older ones) new films

Cheebs · « **Reply #57 on:** June 20, 2007, 08:30:28 PM »

blade runner broke the top 100!!!

TVC15 · « **Reply #58 on:** June 20, 2007, 08:37:50 PM »

Quote from: Cheebs on June 20, 2007, 08:30:28 PM

blade runner broke the top 100!!!

SHOCKING considering it had a 1 in 4 chance!

Cheebs · « **Reply #59 on:** June 20, 2007, 08:38:31 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on June 20, 2007, 08:37:50 PM

Quote from: Cheebs on June 20, 2007, 08:30:28 PM
blade runner broke the top 100!!!

SHOCKING considering it had a 1 in 4 chance!

not really. 85-90% of the first 100 will still be on this list. There is basically only 10-15 open slots.

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Author Topic: Tommorow On CBS. AFI Top 100 Movies. NEW LIST (First since 1997) (Read 4899 times)