You were allowed to bitch and moan about FFXV before it came out. I'm allowed to voice my opinion that it doesn't matter what happen with Kojima. The game was going to be terrible anyway because it decided to follow Peace Walker's ideas.
Hmmmm, being skeptical about a game that switched directors and was in the process of being developed or created for a decade and had poor previews...versus saying a game's director being stripped away from his team for half a year didn't affect the final game's quality.
One sounds logical, the other sounds like nonsense.
Nonsense?
I mean I guess if you can't fucking think.
The design and structure of the game was already set in place. Do you think in 6 months they were going to change:
The characterization of Big Boss.
The writing for Ocelot.
The overall story.
The role of Skullface.
The game's main twist.
The lack of an actual antagonist group ala Fox Hound
The Skulls unit and how they played out
The implementation of Motherbase.
The implementation of the open world.
The roles of the new characters.
The use of tapes instead of Codecs and cutscenes ala Peace Walker.
A lack of character bossess ala Peace Walker.
Grinding for weapons and tools ala Peace Walker
The tone and atmosphere of the game which had been on display since the very first trailer
Motherbase Management ala Peace Walker.
Segmented Missions ala Peace Walker
Grindy and Boring repetitive and repeating side ops ala Peace Walker
Basically being an expansion of Peace Walker's ideas and mechanics.
Those are mine and many peoples problems with the game. You really think 6 months would have changed what was probably decided on years ago? Yes this sounds like complete nonsense. Not the idea that somehow 6 months would have lead to a completely different game. Chapter 1 which many feel is complete is terrible on it's own and features many of the games problems already. Chapter 2 would not save the game.
Also I never said it did'nt effect the quality, I said it doesn't matter really. The game was bound to suck even if Kojima had been there those six months. The game is following PW's concepts which are in my opinion awful. You'd know that if you actually fucking read what I said and were'nt concerned with a shitty comeback. People are quick to ride Kojima, but the man hasn't made a good game in years. Plenty of things can happen to a game in six months, but I doubt they lead to a completely different game. I really doubt in those 6 months they would have completely changed the structure of the game and given Quiet a fantastic story and taken out all the perv cut scenes to actually make her a good character. Maybe in those 6 months they would have rewritten the entire story to include more Skullface. Maybe in 6 months they would have animated all those important tapes into actual cutscenes. Maybe in 6 months they would have made it so you don't have to drive around on the helio and there's actual fast travel. Maybe in 6 months they would have taken out the terrible Skulls and put in actual noteworthy, imaginative, and interesting boss battle characters like previous MGS games. Maybe in 6 months they would have changed how Motherbase works so it doesn't feel like a drag and not copied PW. Maybe the game would have been completely different.
Besides which, FF15 had ten years development time (in before "b-b-but it only took three years!" I don't care about the change in directors, it was announced ten years ago, was gestating for that decade, and now is out)
Versus XIII was announced 10 years ago. XV was announced 3 years ago. It's clear that XV is not versus.
If your argument is a game's director being separated from his team in the last six months of development doesn't affect the end product, you're a delusional idiot.
No my argument is that MGS5 was going to be bad regardless. Case in point if they finished that missing chapter. That wouldn't improve the game at all. The last few months are about optimization and feedback, not completely changing systems, structures, story, and complete overhauls. The game had already been decided on by then.
Yes? Given how rushed Chapter 2 is and how abrupt the ending is? (Just like FF12's rushed/out there story for it's second half after Matsuno left?)
Rushed? Maybe, out there? Not at all, the final act of FFXII makes sense and is in line with what happen the entire game. So if FFXII is your example then it really hurts your argument as even with Matsuno most of what ended up in the game fell under his watch.