Final Fantasy VII Remake |OT| The Unknown Journey Will Continue

[demi]

As far as I can tell this deviates a lot from the original at certain important plot specific points.

ok. and?

[BlueTsunami]

So now we wait another 5 years for the next game? I feared they'd do this part as just Midgar. How are you going to deal with marketing the next chapter? That seems a mess. Midgar is all sexy, and you follow that up with...Nibelheim? Yeah....

I'm hoping they lean into open world aspects vs this maximize high quality assets through sparse dungeons maxim

[Don Rumata]

So now we wait another 5 years for the next game? I feared they'd do this part as just Midgar. How are you going to deal with marketing the next chapter? That seems a mess. Midgar is all sexy, and you follow that up with...Nibelheim? Yeah....

I'm hoping they lean into open world aspects vs this maximize high quality assets through sparse dungeons maxim

I have serious doubts it'll have any kind of open world.

[mormapope]

The deviations that happen are insanely stupid, and they happen at the end. This is by and large a nostalgia stroker of a game.

[mormapope]

So now we wait another 5 years for the next game? I feared they'd do this part as just Midgar. How are you going to deal with marketing the next chapter? That seems a mess. Midgar is all sexy, and you follow that up with...Nibelheim? Yeah....

If you read the spoilers, you have your answer 

[Coffee Dog]

So now we wait another 5 years for the next game? I feared they'd do this part as just Midgar. How are you going to deal with marketing the next chapter? That seems a mess. Midgar is all sexy, and you follow that up with...Nibelheim? Yeah....

I'm hoping they lean into open world aspects vs this maximize high quality assets through sparse dungeons maxim

There definitely isn't going to be an open world in the next game. Maybe the game begins in a big open area in order to tell marketing lies and fill trailers, but the purpose of making so many changes is so they arent boxed into making a game with a world map.

Square is a hallway company. They make hallway games now, and have for a decade.

[Positive Touch]

11, 12, 14, and 15 all had huge open areas but ok

i don't think they'll go with open world either. 15 was still a fairly small map compared to how big 7's would need to be, and there's just no reason to waste time filling it out when there's enough content to build from already.

[Himu]

11, 12, 14, and 15 all had huge open areas but ok

They make hallway games now, and have for a decade.

11

Release date: May 16, 2002

12

Release date: March 16, 2006

Current year: 2020

They make hallway games now, and have for a decade.

[recursivelyenumerable]

I think there will be a more open world/roadtrip theme sorta like XV because:

* From a marketing POV, or just a cohesion POV, they need something to set each game apart from the previous one, tie it together, and give people something to be excited about. It can't just be "here's a random collection of locations and events you might remember from the original FF7 and some random new stuff, kthxbye, see you next time". They want each installment to be treated like a brand new numbered FF, which probably means not only new story elements but also new game systems, etc. For the second game an overworld is a good vehicle for this.

* The most important reason : Nomura is evidently using the FF7 remake (and apparently KH4 lol) as a way to revisit ideas from his version of FFversus13. The road trip/overworld aspect of FFXV was a carryover from the original Versus concepts, and in fact it was envisioned as a modern version of the "road trip chasing Sephiroth" section from FF7 which was originally Nomura's idea BTW, so here's his chance to give us his take on the road trip concept and show us how he'd have done it better than Tabata did. 

[Coffee Dog]

Ehh, without delving into spoilers I'm not seeing the vXIII connection. In Kingdom Hearts it's overt and undeniable to the point of including versus Noctis. If Nomura wanted to talk about Versus through ReMake some similarly blatant shit would happen.

[MMaRsu]

 

[thisismyusername]

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KINGDOM HEARTS

FINAL FANTASY 7

NEON GENESIS EVANGELION REBUILD 1.11

FINAL FANTASY VERSUS XIII

KINGDOM HEARTS 3

THE WORLD ENDS WITH YOU

FINAL FANTASY 7 REMAKE

FINAL FANTASY XV

9/11

WHAT DO THESE THINGS ALL HAVE IN COMMON ?

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...They're all disasters?

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I haven't played It's a Wonderful World/The World Ends With You before Himu starts

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[Tasty]

Xehanort Xanatos

Master of Masters Xanatos

[HardcoreRetro]

I guess the texture work that shows up later in the game is also nostalgia bait. Some pristine ps1-era textures.

"Wow, look at the slums down below."

Amazing! A low quality jpg.

[Mr. Gundam]

FINALLY got a ship date for my Amazon preorder. I can live with not getting it until the 14th.

[Mr Gilhaney]

Got my deluxe edition today 

[Svejk]

Can't wait to hear the remix of Under the Rotting Pizza track.     I know it's up on youtube, but I gotta hold off to hearing it in game first.

[Pissy F Benny]

Kind of tempted to blast thru midgar tonight on 3x speed all cheats on in the ps4 version of the OG game just as a refresher 

[Mr Gilhaney]

Kind of tempted to blast thru midgar tonight on 3x speed all cheats on in the ps4 version of the OG game just as a refresher 

I did that on the switch recently. It's quite a big change so far. Not for the worse though, overall pretty cummy here 4 hours in.

Still think I prefer turn based combat though, and I am kind of sad that there isnt a proper turn based mode in this.

[bork]

Amazon is now showing the regular and deluxe versions as available for pre-order again with the 4/10 release date.

[Himu]

Amazon is now showing the regular and deluxe versions as available for pre-order again with the 4/10 release date.

Thanks. Ordered mine.

[Mr Gilhaney]

Should have released it 10/10, because that's what this game is. Changing those water filters baby. 

[Rahxephon91]

I don’t think you’re getting it on Friday if you order from Amazon now.0

[Himu]

I don’t think you’re getting it on Friday if you order from Amazon now.0

Definitely not. Will get it two days after the fact. That's fine.

I've been talking to a friend and taken her advice. It's best to just buy a game that interests you and not have any expectations. That way you can be surprised. And if it's bad, it's bad. And you learn and analyze why it's bad. Less heartache that way and it can lead to just enjoying games for what they are.

I have to accept that FF isn't really that series anymore and honestly likely never will be again. I'll treat it for what it is even if I, personally, would prefer something else.

[tiesto]

Amazon email says mine is not arriving till the 23rd... but lately Amazon stuff has been getting shipped to me a lot faster than what they say, so who knows? Anyways I have Builders 2 to keep me occupied in the meantime.

[bork]

Amazon is sold out again.

Amazon email says mine is not arriving till the 23rd... but lately Amazon stuff has been getting shipped to me a lot faster than what they say, so who knows? Anyways I have Builders 2 to keep me occupied in the meantime.

Mine still says the 14th, but yup, you never know- up until this game, every single thing I have ordered from them over the past month has come early.  That includes all video games which arrived 1-2 days before the release date. 

[bluemax]

I gave up and ordered it digitally the other day. Not like I've re-sold a game in 20 something years anyhow.

[Svejk]

Reading the physical install clocks in around an hour between both discs before you can even start Chapter 1.

[Pissy F Benny]

why is the digi pre order theme locked til midnight

[Svejk]

why is the digi pre order theme locked til midnight

The one with Cloud and Sephiroth?  Mines there and usable....  Or is that not it..?

[Pissy F Benny]

Nah thats it was saying it was locked yesterday 

edit: 10 hrs and 20 mins now

[Pissy F Benny]

been listening to some tracks from ff8 and fuck the rest of 7 and need to remake 8 instead

That music remade and remixed with orchestras and shit

[Great Rumbler]

That music remade and remixed with orchestras and shit

[Tasty]

The new One Winged Angel goes hard. I'm a fan.

[demi]

Listening to OST songs now. 24 hours baby let's get it

[Pissy F Benny]

That music remade and remixed with orchestras and shit

[Mr. Gundam]

Amazon charged me for my copy, says it will be here on the 14th. I'll be fine.

[Pissy F Benny]

The new One Winged Angel goes hard. I'm a fan.

Not a patch on the ultimate version 

[Mr. Gundam]

Outside of the demo and knowledge of the original game, I don't know anything about the remake. With that said, anyone else wonder if they'll try to incorporate any hints about Advent Children into this game? I really hope not.

[Himu]

Outside of the demo and knowledge of the original game, I don't know anything about the remake. With that said, anyone else wonder if they'll try to incorporate any hints about Advent Children into this game? I really hope not.

Yes.

[Mr. Gundam]

https://www.npr.org/2020/04/09/830474568/20-year-wait-is-over-final-fantasy-vii-remake-is-out-friday

Pleasant surprise on the radio this morning.

Outside of the demo and knowledge of the original game, I don't know anything about the remake. With that said, anyone else wonder if they'll try to incorporate any hints about Advent Children into this game? I really hope not.

Yes.

Figured. I was going through some stuff yesterday and came across my copy of Advent Children Complete and was like "Huh, I bet they can't resist."

But still no Gackt, right?

[bork]

Just got a shipping notification from Amazon- says delivery on Saturday.  Betting it's going to be tomorrow.

[Himu]

https://www.npr.org/2020/04/09/830474568/20-year-wait-is-over-final-fantasy-vii-remake-is-out-friday

Pleasant surprise on the radio this morning.

Outside of the demo and knowledge of the original game, I don't know anything about the remake. With that said, anyone else wonder if they'll try to incorporate any hints about Advent Children into this game? I really hope not.

Yes.

Figured. I was going through some stuff yesterday and came across my copy of Advent Children Complete and was like "Huh, I bet they can't resist."

But still no Gackt, right?

Right.

[bork]

Is it still worth checking out Crisis Core?

[Himu]

Is it still worth checking out Crisis Core?

No. Are you familiar with the Nibelheim story at all?

[bork]

Not going to post the spoilers unless someone wants them, but the game's ending is going to piss some people off quite a bit. 

If what I just saw is true, FFVII Remake's end is like the video game version of (spoiler-tagging this too just in case because it might give you some ideas as to what happens!)

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Terminator Genisys.

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[Mr. Gundam]

Not touching that spoiler button. Tempting but nooooope.

I really liked Crisis Core. I played it back when it first came out so maybe I wouldn't feel the same now, but it was a lot of fun and the ending OH MAN.

[nachobro]

 

[Himu]

Everything important in Crisis Core is known capacity and already told in FFVII. Just watch it on youtube if the story is what you care about. In terms of play it's not that great. Enjoyable game if you're an FFVII fan but adds a lot of fluff too. So it's kind of a mixed thing.

[mormapope]

It's way dumber than people are ready for. The FFVII purists reactions are going to be delicious



Clever idea that's executed in a very not subtle way.

[bork]

Is it still worth checking out Crisis Core?

No. Are you familiar with the Nibelheim story at all?

No idea what Nibelheim is!  My time with Final Fantasy in general is very brief.

[Himu]

I still don't like that they changed the bombing. Making Shinra bomb and destroy the reactor takes agency away from the cast. Barret is no different than Dyne and Avalanche going from destroying life by killing innocent people in retribution to saving life by sacrificing their lives to save the world is a major character transition.

It was probably done to soften the terrorism angle. Can't have characters being terrorists in post-9/11 I guess.

I'll probably be fine with the changes as long as they don't take even more agency from the cast.

[Raist]

The OG heavily implied that Shinra was involved

[Svejk]

I was onboard with CC, until that first battle which introduced the slot machine mechanic thing...  after that, 

[Himu]

The OG heavily implied that Shinra was involved

Where and when?

I mean, Jessie says she messed up the bomb and that she was surprised by the blast radius. Are you talking about that?

[Freyj]

As someone who hasn’t really enjoyed anything to come out of Square Enix but Dragon Quest and the MMO in more than a decade I’m having a hard time deciding if I want to dive in on this or not. I don’t really care about story changes although what I’ve spoiled sounds dumb even by Kingdom Hearts standards.

I guess I liked FFXIII-2...

I dunno it’s weird to be so apathetic about a remake of Final Fantasy VII. My teenage self would be disgusted.

[Raist]

That (though what Jessie says is more like "wtf was this. I guess I made a mistake or something"), the fact that Shinra clearly wanted for shit to happen to make Neo-Midgar, and the fact that they clearly had their eyes on Avalanche, since they knew exactly about the 2nd bombing run etc.

I always thought Shinra deliberately let it all happen, so it's not exactly a stretch that they could have actually given that explosion a little help.
As far as the characters are concerned in the remake, they still think they caused that massive explosion anyway

[Himu]

That (though what Jessie says is more like "wtf was this. I guess I made a mistake or something"), the fact that Shinra clearly wanted for shit to happen to make Neo-Midgar, and the fact that they clearly had their eyes on Avalanche, since they knew exactly about the 2nd bombing run etc.

I always thought Shinra deliberately let it all happen, so it's not exactly a stretch that they could have actually given that explosion is little help.
As far as the characters are concerned in the remake, they still think they caused that massive explosion anyway

That is not heavily implied though. It's your interpretation and I can see where you're coming from.

I prefer the "let them interpret it" take rather than outright explicitly stating "this happened."

[HardcoreRetro]

The Wall Market section is fantastic. Everything else in the game was just merely okay to me. This was great.

[demi]

sounds more enjoyable than RE3