when a 3rd party/multi platform game like COD4/AC sell better on the PS3 than Uncharted or any of Sony's 1st/2nd party game, you know there is something wrong!lol
that beta must have been what helped COD4 sell so much. I see hardly any commercials but there were like 100,000 people in the beta so there must have been a lot of word of mouth.
The power of Achievements and Live - demi :bow :bow :bow
I always find it weird how people can play very similar games one after another. I'd probably get Orange Box and be settled, but people buy the same fps or jrpg one after another. FPS on 360 is $$$$$$.I'm always surprised how Wii owners can buy no games month after month.
And Uncharted made its game title infamous.
I always find it weird how people can play very similar games one after another. I'd probably get Orange Box and be settled, but people buy the same fps or jrpg one after another. FPS on 360 is $$$$$$.
And Uncharted made its game title infamous.
Wow. Thinking from your idea of me instead of the text. Massive fail.
I say: I like variety, never understood buying the same sort of game over and over each month.
response: OMG WII
If I include buying party games each month will you stop wetting your panties?
WOw Uncharted got outsold by fucking Highschool Musical.
Wow. Thinking from your idea of me instead of the text. Massive fail.
I say: I like variety, never understood buying the same sort of game over and over each month.
I'm always surprised how Wii owners can buy no games month after month.
I always find it weird how people can play very similar games one after another. I'd probably get Orange Box and be settled, but people buy the same fps or jrpg one after another. FPS on 360 is $$$$$$.
And Uncharted made its game title infamous.
Yes, all FPS and JRPG games are exactly the same! What I find weird is how you can think waggling replacing button presses and analog movement is acceptably "different" enough from standard games, when the waggle games have been in all other ways, just about exactly the same, with only two notable exceptions.
The power of Achievements and Live - demi :bow :bow :bow:bow
WOw Uncharted got outsold by fucking Highschool Musical.You seem genuinely impressed that a shit/bin shovelware title outsold a decent game, but then again you are a Nintendo fan.
Yes, all FPS and JRPG games are exactly the same! What I find weird is how you can think waggling replacing button presses and analog movement is acceptably "different" enough from standard games, when the waggle games have been in all other ways just about exactly the same, with only two notable exceptions.it's good when used right.
etiolate, whether you are tired or not doesn't matter here, I'm sorry but it doesn't.
i want more games like AC (action/adventure/whatever) but people want shooters (COD4, Orange Box, Halo 3, Mass Effect, R6V, Gears...etc...) and if that's what they want, then that's what they get.
power to the people.
you can also play games that you don't consider the very best in a genre.
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No, etoilet, you fail. You are as usual, on a higher horse than even me, except you can't back it up. Lack of genres? There's more variety on the 360 than there is the Wii. The lack of genres complaint in comparing the Wii to the 360 is invalid. As in there's more variety basically everywhere else. Except maybe the PS3.
vote on his video guys, it's fucking awesome. :-*
This thread is gayer than the GAF version.I owned you in the gaf one
Why did you buy zelda used?
Your examples are backed by something as meaningful as sales numbers, ie NOT MEANINGFUL AT ALL. Typical modern Nintendo fan.
Your examples are backed by something as meaningful as sales numbers, ie NOT MEANINGFUL AT ALL. Typical modern Nintendo fan.
Come on, you know they matter.
If sales matter I could say that Wii Play is the BEST game on the Wii, and that it will end up as the BEST game of the generation, but no one here believes taht to be even remotely true.
I always find it weird how people can play very similar games one after another. I'd probably get Orange Box and be settled, but people buy the same fps or jrpg one after another. FPS on 360 is $$$$$$.I'm always surprised how Wii owners can buy no games month after month.
And Uncharted made its game title infamous.
Your examples are backed by something as meaningful as sales numbers, ie NOT MEANINGFUL AT ALL. Typical modern Nintendo fan.
Come on, you know they matter.
What do sales numbers have to do with the quality of games, or the variety of genres? Come on, you're a Nintendo fan, you had to cook up all sorts of reasons to cover this one from the N64 to the GC days. Here's a hint, they don't matter in regards to quality or variety, unless you're a dumbass fanboy and you need a reason to defend your NERDDOM!
Your examples are backed by something as meaningful as sales numbers, ie NOT MEANINGFUL AT ALL. Typical modern Nintendo fan.
Come on, you know they matter.
What do sales numbers have to do with the quality of games, or the variety of genres? Come on, you're a Nintendo fan, you had to cook up all sorts of reasons to cover this one from the N64 to the GC days. Here's a hint, they don't matter in regards to quality or variety, unless you're a dumbass fanboy and you need a reason to defend your NERDDOM!
Calling someone a nerd on a videogame forum is like Britney spears calling someone trailer trash.
It's been 10 years since the N64 came out, and if you didn't like Nintendo then - chances are you don't like them now. Why is this an argument? Console fansboys really should have died out in 2001 or so. Sales numbers are just nothing more than interesting information, and some people use them to place an objective argument on something subjective. And since its subjective, you really can't make an argument of fact on anything thats better. Someone could argue to death something that you think sucks is good, but you can't prove it either way. It's a futile effort. Go spend your energy doing something more fruitful.
The fact that COD4 outsold SMG, probably the GOTY and BY FAR the best game on the Wii, is pretty damning evidence of the patheticness (apparently this isn't a word, fuck you Webster) of the Wii's userbase.WHAT?
I don't think anyone's doubting that, but I don't see what that particularly has to do with the dicussion, aside from that gaming goes through fads, always has and always will, and no gameplay fad has ever been responsible for an industry downturn in the past.
Your examples are backed by something as meaningful as sales numbers, ie NOT MEANINGFUL AT ALL. Typical modern Nintendo fan.
Come on, you know they matter.
What do sales numbers have to do with the quality of games, or the variety of genres? Come on, you're a Nintendo fan, you had to cook up all sorts of reasons to cover this one from the N64 to the GC days. Here's a hint, they don't matter in regards to quality or variety, unless you're a dumbass fanboy and you need a reason to defend your NERDDOM!
Calling someone a nerd on a videogame forum is like Britney spears calling someone trailer trash.
It's been 10 years since the N64 came out, and if you didn't like Nintendo then - chances are you don't like them now. Why is this an argument? Console fansboys really should have died out in 2001 or so. Sales numbers are just nothing more than interesting information, and some people use them to place an objective argument on something subjective. And since its subjective, you really can't make an argument of fact on anything thats better. Someone could argue to death something that you think sucks is good, but you can't prove it either way. It's a futile effort. Go spend your energy doing something more fruitful.
jesus christ go away
Well I think it did really hurt PC gaming and I just don't think part of the community wants to admit to it.
The 360 has a larger userbase yet COD4 barely squeeked past Mario. You ain't that dumb
The fact that COD4 outsold SMG, probably the GOTY and BY FAR the best game on the Wii, is pretty damning evidence of the patheticness (apparently this isn't a word, fuck you Webster) of the Wii's userbase.WHAT?
The 360 has a larger userbase yet COD4 barely squeeked past Mario. You ain't that dumb
The 360 has the largest US userbase.
tvc: If you keep putting words in my mouth, I am going to have to keep spitting them back at you.
Well I think it did really hurt PC gaming and I just don't think part of the community wants to admit to it.?
Consoles have gone through it before with fighters and rpgs post-ff7, but since this time it feels close to what hurt PC gaming I guess I am a little more worried because PC gaming never got over it like how the public got over fighters during those years.
What I said:QuoteConsoles have gone through it before with fighters and rpgs post-ff7, but since this time it feels close to what hurt PC gaming I guess I am a little more worried because PC gaming never got over it like how the public got over fighters during those years.
So it hurt PC gaming, hurt it in regards to genre and still PC gaming lacks in genre now. This hurts the quality of PC gaming I would say.
What I said:QuoteConsoles have gone through it before with fighters and rpgs post-ff7, but since this time it feels close to what hurt PC gaming I guess I am a little more worried because PC gaming never got over it like how the public got over fighters during those years.
So it hurt PC gaming, hurt it in regards to genre and still PC gaming lacks in genre now. This hurts the quality of PC gaming I would say.
What are you talking about?
I don't know how much PC sales are hurting or whatever - but IMO the emergence of a substitute product in the next gen consoles (360 mainly, PS3 to a much lesser extent) is what would hurt the PC. This is similar to the early to mid 90's when arcades were hot with games with better graphics than could be offered on a console - fighting games is the best example. PC is similar in that consoles (360 is the best example) are now offering both the same games on PC and an online service comparable. There will always be The Sims and World of Warcraft and stuff on PC that will never die, but the consoles have caught up a ton in graphics, onlnie service, and comparable games so it is not a legitimate substitute product. Go read your Porter's Five Forces and it fits perfectly.
UT3 lol
UT3 lol
Was the 34k number for the PS3 or PC version?
HEY GUYS POST YOUR PS3 COLLECTION OMG LOOK WHO COULD BE DISAPPOINTED WITH ALL THOSE GRATE GAMES. NPD LOLOLOLOL
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ARGHownedddddd lol
ARGHownedddddd lol
The fact that COD4 outsold SMG, probably the GOTY and BY FAR the best game on the Wii, is pretty damning evidence of the patheticness (apparently this isn't a word, fuck you Webster) of the Wii's userbase.
The fact that COD4 outsold SMG, probably the GOTY and BY FAR the best game on the Wii, is pretty damning evidence of the patheticness (apparently this isn't a word, fuck you Webster) of the Wii's userbase.
If it's any consolation, SMG outsold what Sunshine did in its first 5 months.
What I said:QuoteConsoles have gone through it before with fighters and rpgs post-ff7, but since this time it feels close to what hurt PC gaming I guess I am a little more worried because PC gaming never got over it like how the public got over fighters during those years.
So it hurt PC gaming, hurt it in regards to genre and still PC gaming lacks in genre now. This hurts the quality of PC gaming I would say.
What are you talking about?
I don't know how much PC sales are hurting or whatever - but IMO the emergence of a substitute product in the next gen consoles (360 mainly, PS3 to a much lesser extent) is what would hurt the PC. This is similar to the early to mid 90's when arcades were hot with games with better graphics than could be offered on a console - fighting games is the best example. PC is similar in that consoles (360 is the best example) are now offering both the same games on PC and an online service comparable. There will always be The Sims and World of Warcraft and stuff on PC that will never die, but the consoles have caught up a ton in graphics, onlnie service, and comparable games so it is not a legitimate substitute product. Go read your Porter's Five Forces and it fits perfectly.
This is pretty accurate, but PC gaming was doubly hurt because of the economic downturn in the tech industry at the turn of the century, and the national economic climate turning to shit. PC gaming, while not as expensive as console fans would have you believe, is still significantly more expensive than console gaming.
Due to the recession, and the way PC hardware has developed since then (the GPU market has really gotten abysmal), I don't think a true recovery is possible unless there is a large initiative between, say, MS, one of the GPU makers (not likely right now), and a large number of development houses (also not likely, beng that they woul dhave to support a LARGE AMOUNT of them to get the initiative to work).
so what can we assume
wii is full of grannies and tards who dont really play games
x360 is full of gamers who enjoy their hobby
ps3 is just full of lol
am i close? help me out here
I get on my high horse, yes, but I'll admit when I'm wrong--very easily.
I get on my high horse, yes, but I'll admit when I'm wrong--very easily.
I just read that GAF thread about ParticleReality and you were a real asshole in it.
Instead of apologizing TVC, at least give that Zeed a warning.
I'm not accusing you of not admitting that you were wrong. I'm just saying that you were an asshole. Your tone kinda surprised me 'cause you never sound that condescending over here. I guess it's part of the Gaf mod superiority syndrome.
so what can we assume
wii is full of grannies and tards who dont really play games, and deluded cretins who think gaming begins and ends with nintendo first-party -- and who are desperately trying to disacknowledge nintendo's rejection of them and their faith
x360 is full of gamers who enjoy their hobby
ps3 is just full of lol
am i close? help me out here
I'm not accusing you of not admitting that you were wrong. I'm just saying that you were an asshole. Your tone kinda surprised me 'cause you never sound that condescending over here. I guess it's part of the Gaf mod superiority syndrome.
I'd like to not talk about this subject any more (as it has nothing to do with the discussion, and it is EVIDENCE of me admitting when I am wrong--I have no idea what Smooth Groove was trying to prove), but let's just say that situation had me a bit concerned. I was harsh, but I was a bit suspicious, too. I have a general rule of not trusting teenagers (it is far and away a general good rule of thumb), and not trusting people on message boards in general. The whole thing seemed fishy to me from the first charity message, but I let it go and figured something about fools and their money.
Maybe my tone was incorrect, but I still stand by my course of action, which was in both the best interest of the forum and ParticleReality.
The whole situation sucked and there will be no further charity on the forum. The level of BS in that thread had me considering turning in my modship. I'm not usually an asshole like that, but the whole think irked me.
I love how NPD numbers turn people insane. :lol Even Evilborians can not escape it's power.
I love how NPD numbers turn people insane. :lol Even Evilborians can not escape it's power.
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I was mildly surprised by the PS3 numbers. I was expecting mid 300's. I think it's a good sign for the console going into 2008.
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/12/13/npd-15-million-playstations-sold-in-november/hilarious :rofl
hoooly shit why did i read this and then read the loltastic comments!
CLOSING THE GAP!
IMPRESIVE GAINS!
PS3 TO CATCH THE WII! ITS RUNNING OUT OF STEAM!
PS3 DOMINATING X360 (in japan)
PLAYSTATION BRAND!
quite an encouraging showing by the ps3. 360, as expected, outsold sony's system -- but the ps3 fared surprisingly well. if the ps3 -- and, it's a huge IF -- can maintain that much into feb, they'll be in a great position. with the ps3 outselling the 360 in 2 of the 3 major regions, it's amusing to watch the psychotic anti-sony contingent spin its performance as a negative. [
btw, i'm not responding to any xbot douche that responds to what i've said above.
not interested in indulging your insanity.
just offering my reflections on the npd.
later.
I can't help it. I dislike people that poorly pretend to know shit they are clearly clueless about. I have no problem with people faking it if they can do it well. Etoilet, well, doesn't. Nobody likes an obvious poser, even a geek poser.
If games bomb, they bomb.(http://images.musicclub.it/foto/iv/big/Ivan_Drago.tif.big.jpg)
http://forum.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2711363&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1:lol
just read the op :rofl
http://forum.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2711363&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1
just read the op :rofl
http://forum.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2711363&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1(http://img.waffleimages.com/73f38bd2aa30f61ea7479fbf4dda1e0e3ab0c662/cubecrown.png)
just read the op :rofl
wait, i just remembered there's something i care about in this month's npds: did contra 4 bomba total? :'(and Ghost Squad, Time Crisis 4 (almost certainly), and Geometry Wars: Galaxies.
ogre battle 64, majora's mask, and umspoiler (click to show/hide)yes, ocarina of time, vociferous laudations all around and what-have-you[close]
spoiler (click to show/hide)yes, ocarina of time, vociferous laudations all around and what-have-you[close]
I remember watching a friend play Eternal Darkness a few years back, and it looked pretty lame, never got the big deal. My brother owns a copy but I never cared to play it.
ogre battle 64, majora's mask, and umspoiler (click to show/hide)yes, ocarina of time, vociferous laudations all around and what-have-you[close]
Sin & Punishment :bow
Also Mario Tennis 64 (superior version ftw), Paper Mario, and Star Fox 64 are pretty awesome. Can't really think of much else I'd go back for.
Never got into the Mario Tennis games, I've always liked Virtua Tennis better.
Throw Mystical Ninja: Starring Goemon onto that N64 list.
I love how NPD numbers turn people insane. :lol Even Evilborians can not escape it's power.
I can't help it. I dislike people that poorly pretend to know shit they are clearly clueless about. I have no problem with people faking it if they can do it well. Etoilet, well, doesn't. Nobody likes an obvious poser, even a geek poser.
I love how NPD numbers turn people insane. :lol Even Evilborians can not escape it's power.
I can't help it. I dislike people that poorly pretend to know shit they are clearly clueless about. I have no problem with people faking it if they can do it well. Etoilet, well, doesn't. Nobody likes an obvious poser, even a geek poser.
wtf am I posing
I continually back up my shit. All you did was try to claim things that were never said to try to find an avenue for 'winning'. I often feel like the only one using their head when it comes to any gaming forum. It gets tiring, because I know the people are smarter than they act, but they take the easy way out.