This week's 1UP Yours is unlike any we've ever released before. That's not to say our regular great content isn't still there. We've got lengthy Whatchya Been Playing and News segments, including discussion of Guitar Hero: Aerosmith, Quantum of Solace, Diablo III, and Rock Band 2. But after all of that, in a special third segment recorded earlier this week, we sit down in the studio with Denis Dyack of Silicon Knights.
Dyack's next game project, Too Human, is nearing release, but the game and its recent round of previews (check out 1UP's right here) aren't in the spotlight so much as Dyack himself. He recently faced a round of criticism when he showed up on the popular NeoGAF forums and issued a challenge to forum goers to speak out for or against his game. Unknown to us, though, Dyack claims he actually did this as preparation for his appearance on 1UP Yours, which he explains on this week's episode.
According to Dyack, the infamous NeoGAF thread was started as an experiment to expose the lack of accountability in online forums. "I was basically calling out people who had no way of assessing the game," Dyack says, adding, "All I wanted to point out to people is that this is so ridiculous." Near the end of the segment, he lays out exactly why he made the post:
"I went through all of this for two reasons.... If you're going to look at the NeoGAF forum as a non-profit organization, if it does not reform itself, it's eventually going to crumble. There's going to be a point where they step over the line where someone's going to shut them down. That would be a loss for everyone.... The question I have to ask the moderators of GAF: Are you going to follow your own rules? With people making GIFs of myself that are, I would say, attacking me.... Why haven't 180 people been banned now? If I wanted to move in and shut that place down, do I have grounds under their own forum policy?"
Dyack concludes, "NeoGAF and other forums like this that don't have good management are not only hurting society and hurting the videogame industry, they're in decline, and they need to reform quickly before people stop listening to them.... If the moderators and people who run the site think they aren't doing any damage, they are sorely mistaken, and it's only a matter of time before something bad happens."
The NeoGAF forum has become known as a destination for snarky videogame discussion as well as lightning-fast news and rumors from around the industry. Though it's difficult to explain in a succinct news post, Dyack's ideas about NeoGAF and other forums are based on a lengthy thought process inspired by various sources of philosophy, science fiction, and social theory that Dyack has been reading and exploring of late. As such, we highly recommend listening to the full interview and forming your reactions after hearing him out. For anyone interested in further reading, we've put together a list of links to articles that are mentioned in the episode as well as links to the Amazon listings for books Dyack discussed.
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I hope evilbore never hurts society
Though it's difficult to explain in a succinct news post, Dyack's ideas about NeoGAF and other forums are based on a lengthy thought process inspired by various sources of philosophy, science fiction, and social theory that Dyack has been reading and exploring of late. As such, we highly recommend listening to the full interview and forming your reactions after hearing him out. For anyone interested in further reading, we've put together a list of links to articles that are mentioned in the episode as well as links to the Amazon listings for books Dyack discussed.:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Taking NeoGaf seriously would destroy a company
Fortunately nobody takes NeoGaf seriously
Derek Dyack
as completely insane as all this is, its tone isn't a million miles away from evilbore's xbot martyr squad
According to Dyack, the infamous NeoGAF thread was started as an experiment to expose the lack of accountability in online forums.
Gawd I love Dyack. Anyone who calls the mods at GAF to the rug I'm a fan of...
I don't even know what to make of this whole fiasco (farce). I was never too big on Too Human (didn't really ever pay attention to it), but every time I heard Dyack I became just a little less interested in it. Is it fair to say he is a whiny douchebag?That'd be going easy on him...
Why can't 1up shut the fuck up about a forum that only a tiny number of gamers know about?
"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he doesn't become one himself."
Oh wow, I never even realized this.
He needs to listen to Nietzsche's advice.Quote"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he doesn't become one himself."
It's at the beginning of your fucking game, dude. :lol
"Whoever argues with distinguished mentally-challenged fellows should see fit to it that in the process he doesn't distinguished mentally-challenged fellow himself."
Jesus, even I don't whine about GAF this much.acchually, you doo
Dyack>>>>>>>>>>Drinky
This man is the greatest internet troll ever. He's got all the bases covered, including the "make bags of money while trolling" one
Wait...he said this on 1up Yours?
oh my god denis looked up kittonwy's address
Why can't this guy just shut the fuck up
everyone must buy this game, keep this man employed so we get more LULZ
everyone must buy this game, keep this man employed so we get more LULZ
This is more entertaining than any single game I have played
If the industry was more like this, I'd probably stop playing games
eel, PM Dyack on gaf and invite him here, I WANT MY LULZ
He's as insane as Kutaragi
Dennis sueing Gaf would be an incredible hilariously end to Silicon Knights.
He reads way too many books.
and what kind of list do you have
these are the same people who bububu and excuse all the diaperwetting inanity of an mgs4
probably a list of all the men he wants to shove his dick into, the conservative closet case
You bring out the world
Also, stop talking about philosophers and Shakespeare when it's clear that you don't know a whole lot about either.
it's okay to rag his shitty game, that is totally fair game, but as usual the internet takes it 10000000000% further and makes it a personal crusade to ruin this guy forever, which is why i wish screaming bone cancer death on 99.9% of you all
but some of you act 100 x worsefuck off dyack.
i mean, there are some who hope the guy ends up being a janitor, or homeless, or commits suicide over this thing flopping
how does that make you better
it doesn't
it makes you worse, because you think you're somehow entitled to some sort of righteous retribution just because this borderline autistic dude can't let go of internet "criticism" (trolling)
seriously, fuck you all
Dyack is the Ken Kutaragi of the west.
fuck this guy. i've had games i've worked my ass on shit upon in public and i haven't said shit ever. fuck him, fuck him, fuck him.
but some of you act 100 x worse
i mean, there are some who hope the guy ends up being a janitor, or homeless, or commits suicide over this thing flopping
how does that make you better
i wouldn't wish this on you either, genghisMy game has been shit on on this forum. you take it like a professional.
who am i to shit on something someone dreamed about and invested their time and maybe heart in
i get shit on on a daily basis, but that doesn't give me the right to do it to someone else, not on a personal level, anyway
gaf serves its purpose, tvc - as long as people are posting they are not out amongst the general public
What is your game that was shit on?
doesn't matter!
It was Jumper wasnt it.
It was Jumper wasnt it.
That fell to $10 new recently at gamestop. I want to see how bad it really is!
too bad he's flailingSaid so eloquently. Truly the mark of an icon!
he let the trolls get him
:wag dennis
you let the truly insane get to point the finger at you, and seem sane doing it
time to back away
duckman: i see what you're saying, and i agree to a certain extent
this dude has caught holy hell for years, though, on a deeply personal level, even before he went gonzo on forums
that has to have an effect on a person, and i can totally understand the reaction to that after a couple of years of biting your lip
it sucks, having big ideas while not possessing the proper tools of implementation
i can relate
that said, this drunk is wearing off, along with my interest
my goal of being the most unpopular member of this forum will likely linger, though
my goal of being the most unpopular member of this forum will likely linger, thoughyou're going to have to adopt libertarianism to even come close.
You must be too fat to go after your goals efficiently.
amirox deserves a good, real punch in the teeth for posting a pic of his jizz spattered over a pic of a naive girl doing a favor for her shithead boyfriend
that was subhuman
as completely insane as all this is, its tone isn't a million miles away from evilbore's xbot martyr squad
as completely insane as all this is, its tone isn't a million miles away from evilbore's xbot martyr squad
Truer words have never been typed.
Did anyone actually listen to the podcast? I just listened to the whole 50 minute Dyack section and thought it was well done. The guy is actually really intelligent.
as completely insane as all this is, its tone isn't a million miles away from evilbore's xbot martyr squad
Truer words have never been typed.
That's hypocritical coming from Drohne since he's been complaining forever about the media's bias in favor of MS.
That's hypocritical coming from Drohne since he's been complaining forever about the media's bias in favor of MS.
Did anyone actually listen to the podcast? I just listened to the whole 50 minute Dyack section and thought it was well done. The guy is actually really intelligent.
amirox deserves a good, real punch in the teeth for posting a pic of his jizz spattered over a pic of a naive girl doing a favor for her shithead boyfriendThat's fucking disgusting. Let's not forget that he was arrested for beating up his mom, and he tried to defend it on the forums, or something like that. I can't remember the details, but I think it was something like that. I know it involved him, violence, and his mom.
that was subhuman
You know, it was mentioning those two things to him (as well as the drugs) which got me perma'd, not the joke avatar (like GAF seems to think).amirox deserves a good, real punch in the teeth for posting a pic of his jizz spattered over a pic of a naive girl doing a favor for her shithead boyfriendThat's fucking disgusting. Let's not forget that he was arrested for beating up his mom, and he tried to defend it on the forums, or something like that. I can't remember the details, but I think it was something like that. I know it involved him, violence, and his mom.
that was subhuman
I don't want dyack* this thread up.
*Dyack (v.): to whine about GAF
Totally agree. Shane used to lead Ziff's news team too. The news as filtered by Shane Bettenhausen.
That thread is boring now, and bishoptl's transparent statements make me weep
amirox deserves a good, real punch in the teeth for posting a pic of his jizz spattered over a pic of a naive girl doing a favor for her shithead boyfriend
that was subhuman
Wait, seriously?
He posted a picture of his own semen splattered over the picture of some real life girl?
WTF is that shit? If I did that I'd probably be perma'd.
Ok I havent listened to the podcast yet, but I dont think I get Dyacks argument.
Gaf is hurting society how?
Ok I havent listened to the podcast yet, but I dont think I get Dyacks argument.
Gaf is hurting society how?
amirox deserves a good, real punch in the teeth for posting a pic of his jizz spattered over a pic of a naive girl doing a favor for her shithead boyfriend
that was subhuman
Wait, seriously?
He posted a picture of his own semen splattered over the picture of some real life girl?
WTF is that shit? If I did that I'd probably be perma'd.
Ok I havent listened to the podcast yet, but I dont think I get Dyacks argument.
Gaf is hurting society how?
Ok I havent listened to the podcast yet, but I dont think I get Dyacks argument.
Gaf is hurting society how?
Because in our hearts we are all starwars kids.
Why do I get the feeling that this preview build is actually a really old one, that he just put out there to get people to shit on his game, so that in the end he can say all his theories are right.
Because in our hearts we are all starwars kids.
Why do I get the feeling that this preview build is actually a really old one, that he just put out there to get people to shit on his game, so that in the end he can say all his theories are right.
amirox deserves a good, real punch in the teeth for posting a pic of his jizz spattered over a pic of a naive girl doing a favor for her shithead boyfriend
that was subhuman
Wait, seriously?
He posted a picture of his own semen splattered over the picture of some real life girl?
WTF is that shit? If I did that I'd probably be perma'd.
That's some fucked up shit. Especially having seen pics of him (he weighs like 400 pounds)...i mean, I picture a lot of forum goers looking like nerdy ugly guys similar to the ones who work at game sites like 1UP, but amirox really blows away my wildest nightmares about what lurks behind the screen name :lol
That's some fucked up shit. Especially having seen pics of him (he weighs like 400 pounds)...i mean, I picture a lot of forum goers looking like nerdy ugly guys similar to the ones who work at game sites like 1UP, but amirox really blows away my wildest nightmares about what lurks behind the screen name :lol:lol
Ignoring the over-the-top "destroying society" nonsense, Dyack is spot on with GAFs tagging bullshit and undermoderation.spoiler it.
(Would it be bad to post a pic of Amirox in this thread?)
That's some fucked up shit. Especially having seen pics of him (he weighs like 400 pounds)...i mean, I picture a lot of forum goers looking like nerdy ugly guys similar to the ones who work at game sites like 1UP, but amirox really blows away my wildest nightmares about what lurks behind the screen name :lolIt's even better if you've read Crushed's "fanfic" about Amirox. It's quite awesome, actually.
PM'd.That's some fucked up shit. Especially having seen pics of him (he weighs like 400 pounds)...i mean, I picture a lot of forum goers looking like nerdy ugly guys similar to the ones who work at game sites like 1UP, but amirox really blows away my wildest nightmares about what lurks behind the screen name :lolIt's even better if you've read Crushed's "fanfic" about Amirox. It's quite awesome, actually.
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Unmoderation? If anything its overmoderated.
Unmoderation? If anything its overmoderated.
All depends. If the mods are against a certain viewpoint, they will be 10x harsher than if they were for. If you have a certain viewpoint that is against that of a mod, you are pretty much on thin ice. If you make too quick of a step, you get slapped with a tag, banned, or both.
On the Too Human thread, even though the game looks to be shit, a lot of people said a lot of stupid things and got away with it. Of course, I did not get away with it, as I made a joke about Dyack, insinuating that he spends more time daily at Golden Corral than people will have playing Too Human.
In those threads, they were undermoderated. Since the mods were called out personally by Dyack, even more bullshit was allowed in that would not be if it was a Kojima or a Miyamoto game.
amirox's fiance suicided on him, jerking off on a photo of someone else's girlfriend is the least of his worrieslink?
amirox's fiance suicided on him, jerking off on a photo of someone else's girlfriend is the least of his worrieslink?
Denis and Gaf deserve each other. They both show whats wrong with the industry today.
If the mods are against a certain viewpoint, they will be 10x harsher than if they were for.
amirox's fiance suicided on him, jerking off on a photo of someone else's girlfriend is the least of his worrieslink?
No link
I haven't listened to the podcast but I would think Shane was totally ballwashing Dyack. He seems to have that personality. Just because you have some sort of "celebrity" sitting in with you, doesn't mean you have to make them feel welcomed by agreeing with everything they say. But who knows, maybe he really did agree with him.
Can anyone explain what Shane's infatuation with Dyack is? When he was spewing all of that incoherent nonsense, Shane was by his side agreeing with his every point.
I haven't listened to the podcast but I would think Shane was totally ballwashing Dyack. He seems to have that personality. Just because you have some sort of "celebrity" sitting in with you, doesn't mean you have to make them feel welcomed by agreeing with everything they say. But who knows, maybe he really did agree with him.
Would that be the titular "Ami"?