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ACHIEVEMENTS
I heard there's achievements, any truth to this rumor?
Have Delicious Sundaes been added to WoW, and are they free?
Has the change in +spell dmg and healing on gear been made yet?
So will you guys start playing WoW again when the expansion hits?
Some of the changes that were immediately apparent had to do with the mounts in a player's inventory. With the new expansion comes a new pet tab on your character sheet. What this does is do away the need to have your mounts or pets taking up slots in your inventory. Rather, they'll each take up one of 12 slots in your pets tab, keeping those precious slots in your bag open, giving you extra room while questing. It's a really nice tweak, especially considering how much loot you'll receive during raids, where you'll need every bit of space possible to make the most of things.http://pc.ign.com/articles/920/920456p1.html
Has the change in +spell dmg and healing on gear been made yet?
yeah, that dropped this patch. get ready for squishy roll drama
ZOMBIE INVASION
zombies patrolling the countryside
if they bite you, you turn into a zombie and can infect other players
NPC healers in capital cities are trying to stem the tide
Fire Spec mage is l33t now. Wtf Hot Streak lol so awesome.
Lich King sounds fantastic from the new Eurogamer preview. I really haven't kept up with it much because I was kind of expecting to be nowhere near 68 when it came out. I think I may hit it now, so I'm kind of psyched.
Almost at 66 atm, gotta decide between Aldor or Scryer, although from what I've seen it doesn't matter all that much.
Bring on the expansion, and freebie greens that beat out current blues! EZ mode marches on.
I don't know. Some greens may be better than early Outland blues. My Mage is in PVP/Kara/Heroic epics and hasn't had a single upgrade at all in any of the Northrend starter zones yet.
Lets just say the hardest part about the beta will be saying goodbye to some if not all of those purples.
ATTN SHATPACK
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Please close this thread and all further wow threads.
Temptation to rejoin is rising...
Is it too late to jump into Warcraft? I've played it as horde and never really made it very far and I'm thinking about going with Alliance but this WotLK stuff looks pretty ballin' Though it would be my luck that all this cool shit ends as soon as I buy WotLK.
ATTN SHATPACK
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QuoteWhat's wrong with time cards? The only bad thing is that the Gamestop employees give me stares. Not that I care what they think - they work at Gamestop afterall
basically import tax on time cards :/
i have a credit card - it's how most people are surely paying, i just want to use it!
i have to call the australian hotline on monday, i'm going to get sorted out :)
i got 66-69 in two days!
:gloomy
Question - I can't find my old discs for WoW or BC. Is there a client I can download them for free so long as I have my original account info? I'm downloading the expansion right now....
Question - I can't find my old discs for WoW or BC. Is there a client I can download them for free so long as I have my original account info? I'm downloading the expansion right now....
i am seeing folks with obscene HP at level 80 -- like 24K unbuffed. is that norfrend eq itemization at work?
lv73 now, after questing like a mad man. I really want to get revered with Valiance Alliance so I can get
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38455
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=38453
I've done a shit ton of quests and I'm almost half way there sigh.
I'm guessing Blizzard changed some stats a few days ago. I was slightly past 500def not long ago, then today I noticed I had been nuked down to 486 or so. After getting the two items above I'm at 499
I'm guessing Blizzard changed some stats a few days ago. I was slightly past 500def not long ago, then today I noticed I had been nuked down to 486 or so. After getting the two items above I'm at 499
That's probably defense rating scaling with your level
Mana Tombs, yup. Not telling casters to stop attacking Pandemonius when his shield is activated=insta suicide.
Other than that it's a pretty easy instance. Nexus-Prince Shaffar is only tough if you ignore the ads
Yesterday people in trade chat were wondering what the next hero class will be. Any thoughts from you guys?
A Blade Master would be awesome
I moved Cocco over to another server, sorry guys! Prole is guildmaster now.
I'm hella geared (1700 spell damage with Fel Armor up, 9.5% hit) and am pretty much able to roll through Heroics. I am in a Naxx-oriented guild with friends from work on the new server, yippee~
Did Culling of Stratholme earlier. Eh, didn't like it that much but it was probably due to me dps'ing instead of tanking. I can't dps for shit but didn't pass up the opportunity to run through it with a lv80 tank and a great healer.
Great healer...but a huge asshole. Lv78 priest, switched from shadow to holy today. Yesterday we ran Drak'Tharon Keep. Everything went extremely smoothly but I wound up dying after we defeated King Dred; basically I wasn't healed while Grievous Bite bled me to death. So the dude then took the next 5 minutes bitching at our healer, telling him to pay attention and how that fuck up would get him kicked out of a raid. I died after the fight, there was no point in ragging the healer jeez it wasn't a big deal at all. All he does is obsess over the more technical aspect of the game, ie always talking about numbers/spell damage/buffs/etc.
Fuck that I just want to have fun.
Did Culling of Stratholme earlier. Eh, didn't like it that much but it was probably due to me dps'ing instead of tanking. I can't dps for shit but didn't pass up the opportunity to run through it with a lv80 tank and a great healer.
Great healer...but a huge asshole. Lv78 priest, switched from shadow to holy today. Yesterday we ran Drak'Tharon Keep. Everything went extremely smoothly but I wound up dying after we defeated King Dred; basically I wasn't healed while Grievous Bite bled me to death. So the dude then took the next 5 minutes bitching at our healer, telling him to pay attention and how that fuck up would get him kicked out of a raid. I died after the fight, there was no point in ragging the healer jeez it wasn't a big deal at all. All he does is obsess over the more technical aspect of the game, ie always talking about numbers/spell damage/buffs/etc.
Fuck that I just want to have fun.
Who's the priest?
I got the chest, bracers, belt and legs of the cobalt set. I also respecced a bit. I don't plan to tank much, but I'll likely end up tanking run for my friends alts that are all around the same level.
In not entirely new news, WoW isn't in good shape right now. Big Guilds are dying from lack of things to do and people are finally fed up with the crappy PvP. It will be interesting to see how things go over the next few patches. I have been meaning to talk to other more serious players than myself, who play on a more advanced server, but they aren't on anymore and I wonder if they're already left the game.
Manabyte, I've seen people leave Tich that were among the most ridiculous poopsocks on these shores. If that isn't an indicator that WoW isn't so healthy right now I dunno what is.
What do you guys think is the best entry heroic for new lv80s? I'm at 79 now.
According to this thread it sounds like Utgarde Keep.
http://www.tankspot.com/forums/f125/41608-heroic-difficulty.html
People are fleeing and I'm still toying with the idea of coming back. Maybe I'll start completely fresh and go Alliance. I say that, and then I think of how long it will take me to get to the new content and it makes me cry.
What do you guys think is the best entry heroic for new lv80s? I'm at 79 now.
According to this thread it sounds like Utgarde Keep.
http://www.tankspot.com/forums/f125/41608-heroic-difficulty.html
I love elves, I love the lore, and it's been a thing that's followed me since before high school. Hell... sadly enough, my elf research granted me the nickname of elf in high school.
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=14318915165&sid=1:usacry
I link only for post #5QuoteI love elves, I love the lore, and it's been a thing that's followed me since before high school. Hell... sadly enough, my elf research granted me the nickname of elf in high school.
Wiped about 7 times in UP, all on Skadi. Everything up to that point was cake but we couldn't be that motherfucker. 3 lv80s in the group. :'( :'( :'(
We used a little trick where we'd farm the harpoons, wait then move back into the hallway so the sequence would reset. After that we could run all the way down to the harpoon guns before the boss respawned. Then start the fight. Even that didn't work. Once the boss arrived there were still mobs on the ground, and once he starts whirlwinding there aren't many places for casters to run sigh
fuck fuck fuck
Shut up. What the fuck is a matter with you.
It's so funny.
Taunt: Range increased to 30 yards.
o Cheap Shot: This ability no longer has diminishing returns against anything other than itself.
Did H UK today. Had no problems holding aggro and my gear/health held up nicely. No good drops tho
It was a guild run (Voluntary Manslaughter), except for me. It was odd because a third through the instance they started complaining about me marking targets and using ready check. So I stopped marking for a bit, as expected people were targeting the wrong mobs, cc was being broken, etc. No one died because of it but the group's dmg taken went up. Finally a couple people admitted that yes, marking is cool.
So yea, since when is marking and using ready check noobish? It ensures everyone's on the same page and eliminated frivolous wipes. It's not like I use ready check on every mob, but if we're about to engage 4+ mobs or a boss, I use it.
You should have seen my VH group today. Horrible dps, which meant healer's mana was constantly low.
Groups want everything but a drug test before admitting a tank into a group; how come dps can just waltz into any group no questions asked...until it's too late
what is faceroll
mage (1000):rofl I was doing 1100 at 78 in Violet Hold.
Well that was a waste of $120.
Well that was a waste of $120.
what?!?
Expansion sucks?
Well that was a waste of $120.
what?!?
Expansion sucks?
Expansion is lazy. Endgame lasts about a week.
A partial list of problems
-Recycled dungeon for the main raid
-All the armor models look the same. Really lazy on graphics. Mundane to the max.
-PVP finally exposed for the joke it is in WoW. Fans finally clue in and realize Arena is bork. E-sport idea becomes obviously a ploy by Blizzard to fight competition(though why?).
-Rampant class imbalance, often reported in beta but ignored/denied by developers, only to hit live and become real issues.
-More sidegrades than upgrades. Armor has become homogenized not just in visuals but in stats. Not a big problem for me, but makes doing 25 man versions not all that important.
-Yet again, expansion released with bugs reported in beta, that are allowed go live.
-Whole thing makes expansion looked rushed.
-Good PvP gear only attainable through Arena or luck, but most classes and specs not viable enough in Arena to attain them.
-Death Knights only worsen class imbalance, overrun every server.
-Blizzard spends first couple months of release telling customers they're wrong about 'issues' only to a pull a 360 and finally start to look at things.
-The game just dies at 80.
-Recycled dungeon for the main raid-They recycled it because Naxx was pretty much the best thing Blizzard ever did PvE wise, but they nerfed it so much that it's way far-removed from what it was. It's still nice for the players that didn't see it Pre-BC I guess.
-All the armor models look the same. Really lazy on graphics. Mundane to the max.-Generic armor design has pretty much always been an issue. I don't really care about this, though.
-PVP finally exposed for the joke it is in WoW. Fans finally clue in and realize Arena is bork.-Arena was fairly well-refined towards the end of BC, but I guess that kinda goes along with what you're saying, because it is pretty imbalanced in some ways right now.
-Rampant class imbalance, often reported in beta but ignored/denied by developers, only to hit live and become real issues.-This I agree with wholeheartedly.
-Yet again, expansion released with bugs reported in beta, that are allowed go live.
-More sidegrades than upgrades. Armor has become homogenized not just in visuals but in stats. Not a big problem for me, but makes doing 25 man versions not all that important.-wat
-Good PvP gear only attainable through Arena or luck, but most classes and specs not viable enough in Arena to attain them.-There is at least one player for every class/spec combination in the top 100 in every bracket (unless you're in BG9). If you aren't a complete distinguished mentally-challenged fellow you can still break 2k with any class in any bracket, even with all of the balance issues. In some comps you might be shoehorned into a certain spec depending on the bracket, but it's basically always been that way. I will admit that this is probably the worst it has been since S1. As for gear, honor farming + VoA makes gear pretty easy to at least get the lower tier PvP stuff.
why are death nights worsening class imbalance?
and what did they do to stats on armour? :(
Well that was a waste of $120.
what?!?
Expansion sucks?
Expansion is lazy. Endgame lasts about a week.
A partial list of problems
-Recycled dungeon for the main raid
-All the armor models look the same. Really lazy on graphics. Mundane to the max.
-PVP finally exposed for the joke it is in WoW. Fans finally clue in and realize Arena is bork. E-sport idea becomes obviously a ploy by Blizzard to fight competition(though why?).
-Rampant class imbalance, often reported in beta but ignored/denied by developers, only to hit live and become real issues.
-More sidegrades than upgrades. Armor has become homogenized not just in visuals but in stats. Not a big problem for me, but makes doing 25 man versions not all that important.
-Yet again, expansion released with bugs reported in beta, that are allowed go live.
-Whole thing makes expansion looked rushed.
-Good PvP gear only attainable through Arena or luck, but most classes and specs not viable enough in Arena to attain them.
-Death Knights only worsen class imbalance, overrun every server.
-Blizzard spends first couple months of release telling customers they're wrong about 'issues' only to a pull a 360 and finally start to look at things.
-The game just dies at 80.
Yea, I've done VoA, and there are like a few more raids and that's it. I'm still focusing on heroics but my guild is starting to get ready for Naxx. Looks like there's not a lot of content.
don't really care much for pvp. Hell, I only go to Wintergrasp to farm titanium/eternals/etc.
Do you feel the lv70 content for TBC was more expansive/better than LK's?
are there any more raids like onyxia? i liked that because it didn't have trash pulls. fucking whoever thought it was good to full raids with trash should be shot.
Armor was homogenized in that there really isn't any priest cloth or mage cloth or warlock cloth, but just cloth that any of them could use. Which is good in a way, because there are more drops that people can use, but then they add tons of slight variations on these stats that sort of fill the game with gear drops, but pretty soon they don't really progress the characters much for they are only slight variations.
Got my artisan flight training yesterday too. Makes farming much easier
This pally that always behaved oddly to me just figured something out yesterday. I imagine this story ends with crying in the shower.
This pally that always behaved oddly to me just figured something out yesterday. I imagine this story ends with crying in the shower.
Only the difference is, I'm pretty sure there ain't gonna be a 500 CHARACTER GUILD named after our boy here.
i can easily tell actual female players from male ones regardless of character gender just by the way they chat in-game. not that i care since i HATE THEM ALL EQUALLY
my main char is a female, but i never get mistaken for a chick. my new guild knew i was dude after the second time i typed in guild chat, when i threatened to murder every teenager in barrens chat
i can easily tell actual female players from male ones regardless of character gender just by the way they chat in-game. not that i care since i HATE THEM ALL EQUALLY
my main char is a female, but i never get mistaken for a chick. my new guild knew i was dude after the second time i typed in guild chat, when i threatened to murder every teenager in barrens chat
:lol
80 yet? I may actually get to play some this weekend.
I'm Horde PvP for what it's worth.
Actually it's Gurubashi, the server a GAF guild was started by Manabyte until he completely flamed out, and managed to fuck it up so badly guild leadership couldn't even be transferred to someone else.
Are all Evilboreans on Ravenholt? :wtf
No. As I recall from what PD told me Drinky/MAF/Patel/White Man/Eric P/PDs alt are on Muradin.
Ravenholt is pretty great though. You should play on Ravenholt.
What was the speech about, PD?
Are all Evilboreans on Ravenholt? :wtf
No. As I recall from what PD told me Drinky/MAF/Patel/White Man/Eric P/PDs alt are on Muradin.
Ravenholt is pretty great though. You should play on Ravenholt.
I've been playing on Ravenholt the last couple months. :P That and Dunemaul. HomemadeMilk's been giving me hell about being on a RPPVP server though. :maf
Are all Evilboreans on Ravenholt? :wtf
No. As I recall from what PD told me Drinky/MAF/Patel/White Man/Eric P/PDs alt are on Muradin.
Ravenholt is pretty great though. You should play on Ravenholt.
I've been playing on Ravenholt the last couple months. :P That and Dunemaul. HomemadeMilk's been giving me hell about being on a RPPVP server though. :maf
Don't worry about him, he's more of a Chinese girl than Rodi is.
I'm on Tichondrius, THE GREATEST PVP SERVER IN EXISTENCE
TICH IS NOT FOR YOU
After 2.5 nights of eating shadow fissures and flame walls (seriously, my guild is apparently borderline distinguished mentally-challenged) we finally killed Sarth3D. I have to say, I absolutely love the encounter. I dig the choose your own difficulty nature of the encounter, the feel of it as drakes fly overhead and talk shit to Sartharion as they start to land ("Father was right about you, Sartharion...You are a weakling! "), the feeling of needing a raid that has situational awareness and knows how to work together, the general chaos of it all. It's fucking awesome which surprised me since 2D was relatively boring.
Bring on Ulduar hard modes if they're anywhere near this good.
Patchwerk: ffffuuuuccccckkkk. Tough tough boss. Definitely more of a healing challenge than a tanking challenge; I was the second OT in the group but they let me MT him. A few dps kept dying early because they didn't jump into the poison pool first. Heals were a bit shaky and we wiped 4 times. I got:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40263
shield block rating :bow
I hate how the war bear has the most distinguished mentally-challenged look on his face. His mouth is constantly open it just ruins the whole thing. :maf
Finally got the patch update downloaded. I wonder when it goes live
i finally made 80
probably gonna respec holy. several forums claim shadow priests are viable dps/utility in the end game raid scene, but i dunno. i'd like to stay shadow spec, but not if it makes my character useless.
Source: Ghostcrawlerhttp://www.tankspot.com/forums/f64/47807-future-heroic-strike.html
The problem is that bosses hit really hard these days and we have given warriors a lot of ways to make their attacks cheaper. As a result, warriors are often flooded with rage while tanking anything remotely dangerous. You can literally HS every single white hit.
We can't just cut the rage per damage number without a lot of testing, because that would affect not only tanks in low-rage situations (like tanking a heroic with great gear) but it will also affect dps warriors, especially in PvP. Hitting a warrior is always a double-edged sword in PvP because you are giving them resources.
A long-term change would be to make even more of tanking warrior threat come from damage done and really scale back the threat from damage taken. Maybe you would HS after a big dragon breath or something, but you wouldn't be able to turn 90% or more of white hits into Heroics. Of course we'd have to make sure threat overall didn't suffer, so you can see how this gets to be a pretty big change (bigger than 3.1 in any case).
The other approach is to let HS be a toggle or something else that can bleed off rage without requiring the player to hit the button virtually every 1.6 sec (or faster).
Yet another approach is to get rid of the on-next-swing concept. Make HS something you do when you have lots of rage and make Devastate something you do when you don't have as much. Again, we'd need to make sure that the tank could do something if they felt aggro slipping away.
Even longer term we need to think about whether we're even happy with this model of tank takes damage and converts it into threat or not.
I did a bit of PTR.
I can't tell you much about warriors, except you'll probably hate Ele Shamans in PVP. Prot pallies may become more common due to pvp viability and I might level mine. You'll see more Destro locks post patch. Their crits are crazy mean now.
Srsly, that healing trinket is among the best things wow has to offer for healers? Why, oh why did I restart my account?
Malek: Overall, like 67 days or some shit, after about 3 years of playing the game. Not bad I guess.
I'm sure there are, but the point is...that's heroic healer loot? Give me an effing break. Reminds me why I quit in the first place, gear to a healer is so interchangeable and non-enticing.
MAF says:
tell PD my 10 mans down to 3 bosses left in ulduar ha ha ha.
I'm sure there are, but the point is...that's heroic healer loot? Give me an effing break. Reminds me why I quit in the first place, gear to a healer is so interchangeable and non-enticing.
:lol borys
According to forumz, my guild is
Renaissance 25 man: Flame Leviathan, Razorscale, XT-002 Deconstructor,Kologarn, Razorscale, Ignis, Auriaya, The Iron Council, Auriaya, Hodir, Freya, Thorim
Renaissance 10 man: Flame Leviathan, Razorscale, XT-002 Deconstructor, Kologarn, The Iron Council, Thorim, Freya, Hodir, Mimiron,General Vezax
And now will school over, I can actually down more bosses with them. I am like hundreds of points behind everyone on DKP. =\
Jesus MAF(?) that is sitting TOO CLOSE.
Also you look like Gabe Newell.
:lol borys
According to forumz, my guild is
Renaissance 25 man: Flame Leviathan, Razorscale, XT-002 Deconstructor,Kologarn, Razorscale, Ignis, Auriaya, The Iron Council, Auriaya, Hodir, Freya, Thorim
Renaissance 10 man: Flame Leviathan, Razorscale, XT-002 Deconstructor, Kologarn, The Iron Council, Thorim, Freya, Hodir, Mimiron,General Vezax
And now will school over, I can actually down more bosses with them. I am like hundreds of points behind everyone on DKP. =\
Nice. Definitely some great players in your guild. btw I just found out Synergy is basically done, as is Immortalis. wow
After like 4 years I finally got my account back from Blizzard. I at one time was the best warlock on the Eitrigg server, sold my account, stole it back, and the guy who bought it complaigned so blizzard shut it down back in like 2005.
I'M 80! OMGOMGOMG
I used to scam people out of their accounts and then sell them to Chinese gold farmers :-\After like 4 years I finally got my account back from Blizzard. I at one time was the best warlock on the Eitrigg server, sold my account, stole it back, and the guy who bought it complaigned so blizzard shut it down back in like 2005.
You sound like a complete cunt
I got 80 too! We won the game. Now let's quit!
Oooh. I has my swift gryphon and winter flying. Of course, I cant quit til I pay my guildleader back the 2000 gold he loaned me to buy it. Ha!
Oooh. I has my swift gryphon and winter flying. Of course, I cant quit til I pay my guildleader back the 2000 gold he loaned me to buy it. Ha!
Oh to have a set of boobs. Though someone did loan me a 1k gold for my epic and I paid them back. But my toon is a pornstar with boobs SO ITS ALL THE SAME.
In the next (hopefully) PTR build, we are going to try:http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=18031077300&sid=1&pageNo=1#2
Shield Specialization: This warrior talent now provides 5 rage on block, dodge, and parry instead of 2 rage on block.
There might be other changes that we aren't ready to talk about.
Im addicted again, but only because I keep meeting women in the game for some reason who take a liking to me, for some odd reason. :(
I'm a shadowpriest, so at least I'm not healing, bored, but still - I dislike fights that require me to constantly move (like jumping on snowdrifts/campfires for Hodir, or dodging the lightning bolts that get hurled down the tunnel on the Thorim fight). Having to constantly move makes it hard to dps, natch.
I'm a shadowpriest, so at least I'm not healing, bored, but still - I dislike fights that require me to constantly move (like jumping on snowdrifts/campfires for Hodir, or dodging the lightning bolts that get hurled down the tunnel on the Thorim fight). Having to constantly move makes it hard to dps, natch.
wah wah, can't turn the brain off and rotate
sp has the easiest rotation of the ever, anyhow, so timeslicing the occasional HERE COMES THE MISSLES or OH GOD OUT OF THE BLUE FLAMES or GET ON THE SNOWDRIFT shouldn't be much work
lazy-ass dpsers
Kologarn (25 man): Ouch, dude hits like a brick. On XT our tries got substantially better, but this dude completely stomped us. The eye beam wasn't a problem, OT had the adds under control, but healers couldn't keep me up. People started leaving after a few wipes
Kologarn (25 man): Ouch, dude hits like a brick. On XT our tries got substantially better, but this dude completely stomped us. The eye beam wasn't a problem, OT had the adds under control, but healers couldn't keep me up. People started leaving after a few wipes
You can't solo tank Kologarn on 25 man. He does a stacking debuff that will destroy you.
We're working on Algalon 10 and 25 man hard modes now (Hodir, Steelbreaker). It's fun.
I'm Moiselle.:lol
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what server are you nigs on
this server is pretty fucking empty
what server are you nigs on
this server is pretty fucking empty
it will seem like that on all servers because everyone is in northrend.
The "yall serious" part really uh...wtf
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Made a new character, went Horde. Started over my pal's server of Dragonmar. Made it to level 5. He helped me out. Did a shit ton of quests, made it to Brill, then we journeyed to the Undead Capital.
This is 99999 x better than FFXI.
Alliance sucks compared to this. Horde all the way. Does the Alliance get ooze trickling out of skeletons into a giant pool of slime?
Man, that is so badass.
im not sure i posted this here, but gender confusion is a great part of mmos:lol never gets old
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I who'd attenea because I didn't know who that was. I think its just some chick that found me on facesofwow.
You using some GUI mods, Himu? Like Cosmos?
wtf iphone wow authenticator?
if you're a rogue, setup your main attacks 1-5. sinister strike will be your main weapon early on, i used to have it as 2 and just spammed it
what the fuck is keyboard turn
this is the worst thing about getting into a new mmo: having to learn all the lingo.
Reading PD's posts about Ulduar almost makes me wish I didn't quit. Have you done any of the hard modes in 25 man? I'm thinking about hopping on my friend's warrior one week and tagging along for a run with his guild.
We also did hard mode for Flame Leviathan which was just as easy as the easy mode.
WoWArmory for iPhone (OFFICIAL AND FREE):You forgot "AND PERPETUALLY IN BETA". I guess that's pretty cool though, I just can't imagine it being that great seeing as they've been working on Armory for over 2 years and it's still an unreliable piece of shit.
WoWArmory for iPhone (OFFICIAL AND FREE):You forgot "AND PERPETUALLY IN BETA". I guess that's pretty cool though, I just can't imagine it being that great seeing as they've been working on Armory for over 2 years and it's still an unreliable piece of shit.
Leveling up my druid in vanilla WoW during launch was one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had, the depth of the druid class was amazing when exploring this virgin world for the first time. Open world PvP was great with him too and you could just do so many different things with a druid and goof around. I could never switch back after being a druid, because none of the other classes where so versatile and got boring for me.
Just a shame a I was resto :lol
At the endgame there are only three playstyles: dps, healing, tank. I'd like to see a crowd control class like enchanter or bard sometime.
At the endgame there are only three playstyles: dps, healing, tank. I'd like to see a crowd control class like enchanter or bard sometime.
Who the hell wants to spend an entire boss fight buffing people or crowd controlling? That's the shit people don't like to do. All Blizzard needs to do is keep making interesting encounters. The more fights like Shade of Aran and Mimiron the better.
Ulduar is fun as far as flame leviathan goes, because seige vehicles are awesome. The rest of it is just same old same old (Except Yogg, which we haven't done - so I don't know.)
Ulduar really hasn't given me much fun in playing it.
Got my toon to level 11 and I'm now in the ghostlands. Is it possible for me to teleport over back to Undead City and do Undead quests even though I'm a BElf?
I've learned herbalism and skinning. Figured they'd be the most useful. Also learned first aid.
Right now I'm curious about talents. Don't know what route to go with. Don't wanna fuck up my character like I did in Diablo once.
Right now I'm curious about talents. Don't know what route to go with. Don't wanna fuck up my character like I did in Diablo once.Combat. Efficient, simple, and very nub-friendly. Spec into swords. I'd go up to Adrenaline Rush and then dump points into Subtlety/Assassination later on. And FYI, you can redo your talents (for a bullshit fee that increases exponentially) at your class trainer.
It's 10 man. We wiped many times, but we were making progression. I was outside the portals killing/interrupting shit while noticing everyone in the brain room's health bars depleting pretty fast. Eventually it got better but yea, once they're familiar with the room/layout I think we'll be fine.
Do you usually go into the portal or stay out? On the outside we'd usually try to move in the same direction (clockwise or counter-clockwise) killing constrictors, crushers, interrupting corrupter. But a few people would eventually start going the opposite way focusing on crushers while a constrictor was on the other side strangling someone.
I kind of want to play again, but nobody ever plays with me.
Next patch you can get a mount at 20 and for less gold.
Did a Heroic Flame Leviathan pug today and I was shocked how well it worked.
Which class?
Theyve speeded up 1-60 a lot I heard.
I already de-installed wow.
:piss 13 euro :piss2
Next patch you can get a mount at 20 and for less gold.
Did a Heroic Flame Leviathan pug today and I was shocked how well it worked.
Why? It's a loot pinata
Owned Kologarn finally (25 man) only to get stuck on Auriaya. Still working on the pull. We have a hunter put a trap down, then 3 tanks picking up adds at top of stairs while another tank takes the boss. I've been looking around for a better way to do this. We separate the adds and dps moves from one to another killing them
what in the FUCK
we have been trying for 30 MINUTES
(http://i25.tinypic.com/kd8g49.jpg)
I know some people who are getting alts to lv60 in preparation for the xp-halt thingie.What's this? I quit a while ago, so I don't really keep up on the news anymore.
http://wow.incgamers.com/blog/comments/patch-3.2-gain-experience-through-pvp/I know some people who are getting alts to lv60 in preparation for the xp-halt thingie.What's this? I quit a while ago, so I don't really keep up on the news anymore.
WoW.com has multiple independent sources confirming the release of Patch 3.2 tomorrow (Tuesday August 4th in the US) and we're happy to pass that information along to you.http://www.wow.com/
There are no patch notes available yet, however they will no doubt be made available within the next few hours. But really, the patch notes are not going to deviate a terrible amount from the PTR patch notes, so this evening is a good time to familiarize yourself with everything.
The patch will also bring with it some rather significant extended maintenance as well.
WoW.com has compiled everything we've written into a very large and complete patch guide, WoW.com's Guide To Patch 3.2.
Enjoy the patch, folks!
Do you guys remember how fucked up it was to do Molten Core/Blackwing Lair back in 2005 on a high pop server?
When do you gonna get a mount man? And what will you pick?
Players will now be able to trade soulbound items with other raid or group members that were eligible for the loot. This system will work like the Item Buy Back system and allow 2 hours for players to trade an item after it has been looted. Players who choose to enchant or add gems to the item will get one last confirmation before losing the ability to trade the item.
And it only took them 4 1/2 years to come up with!QuotePlayers will now be able to trade soulbound items with other raid or group members that were eligible for the loot. This system will work like the Item Buy Back system and allow 2 hours for players to trade an item after it has been looted. Players who choose to enchant or add gems to the item will get one last confirmation before losing the ability to trade the item.
wut, how did I not hear about this
rest of patch notes: http://www.wow.com/2009/08/04/world-of-warcraft-patch-3-2-release-patch-notes/
I dinged 80 yesterday and am super bored.::)
I dinged 80 yesterday and am super bored.
Is there any heroics a new 80 CAN'T do?
She has lurked in her lair and done battle with the many brave adventurers who travelled to that familiar location over the years. Now, in honor of the World of Warcraft 5-year anniversary, the dreaded brood mother Onyxia is being revamped to make a return to the forefront of Azeroth, as part of our big plans for the upcoming 3.2.2 content patch.
This permanent update to Onyxia will convert the dungeon into 10- and 25-player modes. We will be adding new items to Onyxia's loot table that have the same model as some of the classic loot from this dungeon, like Tier 2 helms, with stats updated to match the current level of content. There will be a special new item too: a normal drake-sized 310% speed flying mount modeled after Onyxia herself called an Onyxia Broodling. We will also be updating the encounter mechanics to be more fitting for modern raiding, but we can guarantee players will get to experience the frightening horror of deep breaths once again.
Then for a limited time, after the 5-year anniversary event officially begins in November, anybody who logs in will receive an Onyxia Brood Whelpling pet.
We're very excited to bring this classic encounter back to provide a fun new experience for both new and veteran players. Further details will be available in the near future, and we will be setting up the Public Test Realms soon to help test out this fight along with all the new content we have planned for the patch. Keep an eye on the forums for updates!
Ret pally? Protection pallys rock in raids
Had a blast doing heroics today with friends. Got:
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=46166#comments
Then got this in normal ToC
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47216
Badass. My dps has definitely gone up. Even after losing 36 expertise after switching my old helm (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=40328) with my new one, my dps was still improved.
A lot of beginners pick elf hunters to fulfill their Legolas fantasies.This was me :-\
great....after all that downloading, it turns out whatever progress I made last night apparently didn't even happen. I didn't even make an account, because I just made a new one with the exact same login/address info. damn, just lost my will to play this at all. :lol
How much progress did you make yesterday?
These spells/abilities are in the 3.2.2 PTR files:
* Silence Fool - Pummels an enemy for 15 damage and interrupts the spell being cast for 5 sec.
* Pity the Fool - Reduces the melee attack power of nearby enemies for 30 sec.
* Maximum Mohawk - Only one Night Elf Mohawk may assist a group at a time.
* Create Mohawk Grenade - Right Click to throw and pity some fools!
None of the information below has been officialy announced by Blizzard, this is only a compilation of information gathered from reliable sources. Just keep in mind that it takes a LOT to make me post something on the front page and I'm definitely not speculating here.
Other sites started it, I'll try to finish it. Think twice before you read this post, we have a lot of spoilers here.
Most of this stuff will be announced at the Blizzcon anyway, if you didn't take the time to order the live stream you might want to consider doing it. We will probably see a lot of interesting things here.
Quote from: Blizzard (Source)
This year, for the first time, you'll have the opportunity to enjoy a live Internet stream of BlizzCon coverage from the comfort of your own home. The stream includes the same content as the DIRECTV pay-per-view event, but you do not have to be a DIRECTV subscriber to purchase it. It consists of over 16 hours of video, including interviews and commentary, main stage presentations, and tournament coverage. It’s now available to order for $39.95, and purchasers will also receive the BlizzCon 2009-exclusive in-game pet, Grunty the Murloc Marine (not available in all regions). Head over to the BlizzCon 2009 Live Stream website to get more information, to test video playback on your system, or to place an order.
http://blizzcon.rayv.com/
Forums - The WoW Cataclysm General Discussions forum is now available.
Update - Another update from the Something Awful forums has been confirmed and is now integrated to the post. (The original quote was removed by the author's request on SA)
World of Warcraft: Cataclysm
World of Warcraft: Cataclysm is the next expansion for World of Warcraft. Dark and forgotten threats that have long stayed out of sight have finally arrived on our shores, unleashing a cataclysmic event upon Azeroth and now preparing more nefarius plans to take it back.
Level Cap
The level cap in the next expansion will be slightly lower than expected this time around; 85.
This suggests Blizzard wants more room for expansions before hitting the level 100 cap. With less leveling to do (along with the revamped leveling listed below likely to increase the speed and ease of leveling), leveling a new race remains appealing for new and existing players alike.
Leveling from 80-85 should be a much bigger deal, the idea is to make sure that gaining a level really means something and doesn't make you feel like you just have 4 more levels to go.
New Classes
Cataclysm doesn't introduce any new classes to the game. Instead, Blizzard have offered more race and classes combinations to players. The Some of these have alreadly been datamined from the 3.2.2 Test Realms. The An Injured Colleague quest and it's new Night Elf counter-part help to introduce the lore for these new race and class combinations, so we can probably expect to see more of these for some of the less traditional ones.
Human Hunter
Orc Mage
Night Elf Mage
Dwarf Mage
Blood Elf Warrior
Dwarf Shaman
Undead Hunter
Tauren Paladin
Tauren Priest
Gnome Priest
Troll Druid
New Races
The events of the cataclysm has caused two new races to seek new allies. The Goblins for the Horde and the Worgen for the Alliance.
Goblins
Deathwing once again sought the services of the goblins, as slaves. Unable to refuse such an offer, the goblins were enslaved by him. A large group have resisted however. With their previous homes devastated by the cataclysm, they escaping to an island off the coast of The Barrens. As they strive to recover, they come across an Orc captured on an Alliance ship and rescue him. The Orc turns out to be none other than Thrall himself, and in return offers the Goblins a place within the Horde. These events are carried out in a quest line, allowing players to experience first-hand the reasons behind the Goblins' shift from neutrality.
Worgen
The cataclysm has cracked open the Greymane Wall, finally revealing what has happened to the kingdom of Gilneas and its citizens. With the Worgen cruse taken hold, they have found a partial cure, allowing thme to retain their Human minds evne when transformed. Venturing forth from Gilneas and seeking help from the Alliance, they have decided to join them, to combat the new threats of Cataclysm.
Gilneas will make extensive use of the phasing system (much like the Death Knight starting area), to show what happened while the kingdom was cut off from the rest of the world and lead up to present day.
Worgens will have two forms, a Worgen form and a Human form. Players will be able to customise the look of both forms.
New Content
Cataclysm will be the first expansion not to introduce a new continent, instead making use of previously unreleased zones and revamping existing ones.
Classic Azeroth Revamp
A cataclysmic event caused by Deathwing and Azshara will change the face of Azeroth as we know it. Most of the new content for Cataclysm will take the form of a revamped Azeroth, taking advantage of newer additions to WoW such as phasing and daily quests. Most of the quests and mobs in the classic zones will also be redesigned to make leveling less painful. With the revamp, a greater narritive and sense progression will be offered to players. Some zones and dungeons will change drastically to fit this, e.g.,
The Barrens will be split into two separate zones of two different level bands.
Azshara will become a low level (~10-20) zone.
Some of the zones like the Thousand Needles will be flooded.
Durotar is wrecked and apparently Orgrimmar could be destroyed. A new Orc city is rebuilt over the course of the expansion.
Gnomeregan will be part of the expansion as well and gnomes might be able to reclaim their capital. (The last part is still unconfirmed)
Wailing Caverns will be become a lush tropical area as a result of the druid's magic.
The Blackrock Spire will erupt and a new version of Blackrock Mountains will be available, apparently Ragnaros will be back too.
In the aftermath of the cataclysm, and the new conflicts on the horizon relief efforts can be found in many zones and new open PvP areas similar to Lake Wintergrasp.
Flying in Azeroth
Part of the redesign of the Eastern Kingdoms and Kalimdor is the introduction of flying to the two continents, allowing access to many new areas and quicker travelling across the large continents.
Classic Dungeon Revamp
Redesigning Onyxia's Lair in Patch 3.2.2 was just the first step. As most of the leveling will take place in revamped areas of Azeroth, so too will the dungeons, allowing players to use them to level from 80 to 85.
Unreleased Zones & Dungeons
With the addition of flying mounts to Kalimdor and the Eastern Kingdoms and the redesign of many zones, most of the previously unreachable or incomplete zones will now be made available to players. This is where most of the new content from 80 to 85 will take place. Some of these are,
Hyjal (present)
Gilneas - The Worgen starting Zone.
Uldum
It is unclear if the old Goblin locations such as Kezan and Undermine will be included in Cataclyms with the revelation of the goblins' plight, but several new islands have also been risen from the seas by the events of Cataclysm, some on the backs of giant sea turtles and whales, with the addition of several underwater zones.
Characters and Events
Deathwing
Deathwing the Destroyer / Neltharion the Earth-Warder will play a major role in Cataclysm. Having been driven mad by Old God whisperings and turning against his own kind only to be fail in his attempts, Deathwing has sunk into the shadows. While the Horde and the Alliance were busy fighting back the Burning Legion only to then be beset with the Scourge, he has been lurking and moving things into place. After Lady Sinestra's failed attempts to create a Twilight Dragonflight, he again retreated to Grim Batol and succeeded where she failed. With his results seen in the Obsidian Sanctum, he has finally created the supreme Dragonflight he sought and plans to unleash it upon the world. But what of the Old Gods' sway over him?
Azshara
Queen Azshara will also play a major part in Cataclysm. Unknown to many mortal races, long forgotten by others, and believe to be dead by her own kind, she has not been dormant in depths of the Maelstrom. Having those around her transformed by the Old Gods into Naga after her failure in the War of the Ancients, she has become far more powerful and a greater threat than she once was. Not content with just Nazjatar and the depths of the sea, Azshara seeks to reclaim power and reign once again. With the true plan behind Lady Vashj's support of Illidan remaining a mystery we do not know what hand Azshara has yet played. The big question remains, is she now serving her "saviors", the Old Gods?
The Cataclysm
I'm still not sure who is the true end boss of Cataclysm is, but the cataclysm appears to have been caused by attempts to incantation to summon extremely powerful beings using an ancient incantation by Deathwing and Azshara. They're both very powerful, but the cataclysm itself suggests something more powerful is behind it, perhaps their shared past of Old God influence?
The Guardian of Tirisfal
Malfurion Stormrage will be returning to Azeroth to aid in the creation of the new Guardian of Tirisfal - Thrall! Med'an's role in these events is currently unknown.
The New (New) Horde
Thrall will hand over the leadership of the Horde to Garrosh Hellscream, while he serves as a coordinator for both the Horde and Alliance forces in and effort to combat the new threat of the Naga and Black Dragonflight. Without Thrall to keep Garrosh in check, he declares open war on the Alliance. In the political upheaval Cairne Bloodhoof is implicated as a traitor to the Horde and murdered by Garrosh. Cairne's son Baine takes over as the new Tauren chieftan. This could explain why Baine was removed from the game in Patch 3.2.2, you can find more information about this in Ahmo Thunderhorn - replacement for Baine Bloodhoof?
Didn't Blizzard say they're adding a hero class with each new expansion? I hope that's the case. No hero class in Cataclysm would be a massive disappointment (and I wanted to roll an archdruid ever since it was rumoured). The game would benefit from a healer hero class.
And troll druids make no sense at all. High/blood elf druids do, though:
http://www.wowwiki.com/Druid_magi
(http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/wowwiki/images/thumb/3/38/High-Botanist-Freywinn.jpg/435px-High-Botanist-Freywinn.jpg)
yup
11:15AM Over in the playable area for World of Warcraft, there are two big signs, draped in black fabric to hide what they're showing. Pretty sure that means there's a new expansion to talk about, and pretty sure that means we'll also be playing it at the show this weekend.
yup
Do you also post on the mmo-champion boards? I noticed the avatar when I saw it on mmo and then in that gaf thread.
What I wish they would do with the new races is allow people to start at 58 like they did with DKs. It would help balance out class population if more classes could skip past leveling to 50.
[youtube=560,345]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5URoWzt9UE[/youtube]
:rofl :rofl
I did TotC 25 today for the first time with a PUG. We wiped about 20 times, and the raid disbanded at the twins because of shitty healing/DPS. It wasn't very fun. :lol
However, I now have almost enough Emblems of Triumph to get the new DPS libram. :rock
I'm 76. Man, just one more level and I can fly in Northrend!
I'm 76. Man, just one more level and I can fly in Northrend!
You can fly in Northrend at 70 now.
When do you know you're ready to do 10 man TOC? Like what DPS should I be putting up? I can put up like 4k sometimes in Naxx, otherwise i'm mostly near like 3.5k
I scammed 7000g over a weekend advertising myself as a representative of MMOwned (http://mmowned.com) offering sale of a Swift Spectral Tiger mount for 1000g. I'd give them a false 26 digit code, say, "Thanks! Enjoy the mount", mail an alt the gold, log out and delete the character. I felt shitty for a while, but at least I got my epic flying mount. About two weeks down the road I got a week-long ban and the players ostensibly got their gold back, but the great part is that the GM only took away the mount itself and not the 300/300 training :lolspoiler (click to show/hide)I also scammed multiple people on markeedragon using an exploit on the WoW account page :-\ I'd offer a trade (usually with a much better geared character) and even go first to gain their trust, but the exploit allowed me to retrieve my account via password reset after the trade was complete. I'd then transfer their character to a new account, get the old one banned, and sell the characters to Chinese gold farmers. I don't know if it's good or bad that this is probably the most fucked up thing I've ever done to anyone[close]
So Blizzard now sells 2 in-game pets on their shopping site:
http://us.blizzard.com/store/browse.xml?f=c:5
:piss Activision :piss2
smh optimo :lolSo Blizzard now sells 2 in-game pets on their shopping site:
http://us.blizzard.com/store/browse.xml?f=c:5
:piss Activision :piss2
Don't the sales go to a charity?
nerdrageI've got to say, it's been fun watching you become a full-fledged WoW elitist. :bow Competent players :bow2
holy shit @ yer gear. welcome back btw
also I fucked up: we did it with 12 wipes, not 22
I'm on Ravenholdt. Dunno if you'd want to transfer here. Horde are like 70% of the server, and the raid situation isn't great.
:'(
Are you on a good server?
Let's project this out: For the sake of argument, say Icecrown comes out Decemeber 1st, just to make the math easy. On Dec. 1, we get Wing 1. Now, Blizzad's wording on the release of new wings is "several weeks." To me, several weeks means more than 2, so I'm going to say 3 weeks between release of each wing. That puts wing 2 at December 22nd. Three more weeks puts Wing 3 at January 12. Finally, Wing 4 comes out February 2nd. If your billing cycle starts on that same December 1st, you pay for December, January, and February--three months--just to *see* Arthas, provided you and your guild are good enough to get past the extremely limited number of attempts you will initially get in Icecrown. Then, you kill Arthas that week, let's say, because you're that good. The week of February 9th is when you can start hard modes. Start. A raid initially released on Dec. 1 will allow for hard modes to begin on February 9th. My powers of prognostication and experience as a guild leader / recruiter say that many, many guilds will not survive hard modes.http://wowriot.gameriot.com/blogs/Fives-the-Paladin-Hates-the-Blues/Six-Words-that-Terrify-Blizzard
Pallies are hard to level, good luck
I'm taking a break from the game. Tired of drama and the raid grind. I'll probably resub after a week but I'm definitely chilling for now
Guy on GAF is a fucking idiot as it's pointless to do AV after this patch.
im not that impressed with new patch, the new dungeons are mediocre (but provide a decent challenge on heroic, for now), and they made all my gear obsolete again. What happened to the Blizzard that was able to introduce new dungeons and 5 mans in vanilla wow and not completely fuck up old loot?
Yeah i've grown to like the 5 mans since that.
I got my pally up to 69, will hit 70 later. How bad did they nerf XP Gain in AV?
PD, have you been getting emblems of triumph from random dungeoning? My druid gets 2 embels at lvl 71 every time he does a random dungeon. I figure leveling like that you'd be able to buy a piece of t9 by the time you hit 80.
Dude it doesn't take forever anymore. Heirlooms+LFG system=win
Heirlooms are items that bind on account which you can send to alts; armor, trinkets, weapons, etc. They increase the amount of xp gained; you can get up to 20% more xp gained by using them. Each time you gain a level the stats on the item scales.
Gotta be lv80 to get them with badges though
The only holiday thing I ever did was do the brewfest thing to get loot :lol
Shaman is lv79, half way to 80. I probably won't get home from school/library until around raid time for my main (ICC at 9pm), and after we roffle the place I'll jump back on my shaman and hit 80.
I heard they nerfed the dmg Marrowgar does to tanks. Our healers will be happy
20% is a nice boost imo. Add the random lfg xp in and you're ready to rock. Especially if you're a tank or healer lol
Oh, it also saddens me that once I hit 80 I really won't be able to tank anymore, or anything of worth without hours of investment as a DPS and hoping I can get tank gear that no one wants :/.
Oh and a Shadow Priest rotation? :lol :lol :lol Try a 80 Afflic Lock rotation.PvE? :lol :lol :lol Try PvP
Why would I play a shadow priest in PVP? Shadow priests are just poor excuses for warlocks, always have been.That was more of a general statement
Pretty sure I'm gonna unfreeze my account and reroll a Human Pally or something.Druids can't wear anything higher than leather
Actually I've been meaning to go Druid, are they pretty rad now? They get mail at 40, right?
I actually caved in and re-subbed last month, but I already cancelled again. I was gonna cool young dude at 39 until I discovered (upon hitting 39 and queueing for a battleground) that twinking is dead in every battlegroup thanks to the active/inactive XP split they did with battlegrounds a few patches ago. Blizzard hates fun.
Oh yeah, and I can't even ride my Gladiator drake and flex my epeen in Dalaran on my 70 rogue because of that cold weather flying bullshit.
I should really sell my account but I just can't do it :'(Pretty sure I'm gonna unfreeze my account and reroll a Human Pally or something.Druids can't wear anything higher than leather
Actually I've been meaning to go Druid, are they pretty rad now? They get mail at 40, right?
I actually caved in and re-subbed last month, but I already cancelled again. I was gonna cool young dude at 39 until I discovered (upon hitting 39 and queueing for a battleground) that twinking is dead in every battlegroup thanks to the active/inactive XP split they did with battlegrounds a few patches ago. Blizzard hates fun.
Oh yeah, and I can't even ride my Gladiator drake and flex my epeen in Dalaran on my 70 rogue because of that cold weather flying bullshit.
I should really sell my account but I just can't do it :'(Pretty sure I'm gonna unfreeze my account and reroll a Human Pally or something.Druids can't wear anything higher than leather
Actually I've been meaning to go Druid, are they pretty rad now? They get mail at 40, right?
Fffffuuuuuuuuuu
Pally it is then. Or maybe Hunter. fml.
???You must be one of the lucky ones :maf
Our lich king 10 kill - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OHMDYy4C3s
Our lich king 10 kill - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OHMDYy4C3s
Got that covered! The wedding invite says some invitees have been asked to wear "pvp attire" to guard the reception
Got that covered! The wedding invite says some invitees have been asked to wear "pvp attire" to guard the reception
:lol
wait, are you guys Horde or Alliance?
Why not just level something other than a Warrior to 80. Playing one class all the time gets boring fast.I have a lv80 shaman
I'm on Ravenholdt (alliance). The alliance side is vastly out numbered by horde
I don't play much anymore, and my guild is basically dead lol. Looking around for another one
Cata raids:
10- and 25- man raids in Cataclysm will share the same lockout
Normal versus Heroic mode will be chosen on a per-boss basis in Cataclysm raids, the same way it works in Icecrown Citadel
10- and 25- man bosses will be close in difficulty
10- and 25- man bosses will drop the exact same items
25-man bosses will drop a higher quantity of loot, but not quality.
For the first few raid tiers, our plan is to provide multiple smaller raids. Instead of one raid with eleven bosses, you might have a five-boss raid as well as a six-boss raid.
I think it's awesome news. Fuck doing the same instance twice a week and fuck leading 25 mans.
Pretty good except for the part where they implemented a "Friends of Friends" thing, so you can see all your friends friends, including their real names.