It's just funny watching these people panic as their unique nerdy interests are about to become more popular and mainstream. They're afraid of not being special or not represent the fanbase anymore.
What? did I pull an Arvie, or just said something stupid? :-\It's the Onion, of course it wasn't real lol.
What? did I pull an Arvie, or just said something stupid? :-\
I love me some Star Trek but fuck the crazy trekkies. I want me a Star Trek full of tons of action, sexy, and pretty people. Based on the insanely good reviews Abrams delivered. Can't wait for Thursday.
The stale 24th century trek that trekkies masturbated to got boring after a while, I missed the girls in short skirts/go-go boots getting on with kirk swashbuckling style of 60's Trek, glad it's back to an extent. It needed to come back.
The stale 24th century trek that trekkies masturbated to got boring after a while, I missed the girls in short skirts/go-go boots getting on with kirk swashbuckling style of 60's Trek, glad it's back to an extent. It needed to come back.
Shut the fuck up, Cheebs.
What Trekkies "masturbate" to Voyager and Enterprise?
TNG + DS9 = Pinnacle of Trek
VOY + ENT = shithole of Trek
Cheebs = annoying sycophant
It's getting fantastic reviews, Would someone like Peter Travers give it a gushing review if it was some soulless action blockbuster? Look at Transformers, that got meh reviews.
See, at least when I like Transformers, I was willing to admit that it was a guilty pleasure at best.Which is what I just said! I feel the same way about star trek. I cant see how anyone could take it seriously. it's silly but I find it fun.
I could understand that point of view if Star Trek didn't DIE. The franchise was done and dead. It was either this mainstream blockbuster or no more Trek ever.
Your DS9/TNG trek isn't going anywhere and it's not like it is replacing some trekkie nerdfest film/tv series that could have been.
It's getting fantastic reviews, Would someone like Peter Travers give it a gushing review if it was some soulless action blockbuster? Look at Transformers, that got meh reviews.
and wtf is this high and mighty nonsense about the franchise. STAR TREK IS A JOKE! Its about people exploring space and doing shit. It isn't real! It is just sci-fi fluff. Which is why the Shatner era stuff was the best, because it didn't take itself seriously like the 90's stuff.
i said earnest nerdiness :punch
also cheebs doesn't have any idea why some people are so enamored of Star Trek
It has little to do with this movie. I gleefully threw a lot of trek under the bus and preferred the more light-hearted style of shatner-trek long before this movie was coming
also cheebs doesn't have any idea why some people are so enamored of Star Trek
Personally, i don't see what's so appealing about this one. More phaser guns, yay. I don't like Star Wars because shit blows up, i like star Wars because they put dudes in robes againts other dudes in robes, and they fight each other with lightsabers.Dude, the dude that plays Kirk is like a blonde version of you, dude.
That's all, and the amount of lens flare in this Star Trek won't change that. And the main dude looks like such a douche, even in the interviews, dude, stop being such a douche, and what's up with Spock anyway. Guy looks fake.
I think the problem is that Cheebs is so dead set on arguing the merits of the 'summer blockbuster'people here say I obsess over the fall drama oscar bait films and now I also defend the idea of empty summer blockbusters? I can have it both ways?
I think the problem is that Cheebs is so dead set on arguing the merits of the 'summer blockbuster'people here say I obsess over the fall drama oscar bait films and now I also defend the idea of empty summer blockbusters? I can have it both ways?
you guys put too much effort into hating and classifying movies.
and preferred the more light-hearted style of shatner-trek long before this movie was coming
"Sci-fi fluff" is, by definition, shit.
Science fiction is about ideas; if you don't have ideas then go fuck yourself in the fantasy section, thank you very much.
Please imagine I am saying "fantasy" in the most sarcasm-dripping, dismissive tone of voice possible.
I think the problem is that Cheebs is so dead set on arguing the merits of the 'summer blockbuster'people here say I obsess over the fall drama oscar bait films and now I also defend the idea of empty summer blockbusters? I can have it both ways?
you guys put too much effort into hating and classifying movies.
If that means I don't hate every fucking movie that comes out outside the weird cult genre films, and hate films even more if they get good reviews than I am glad to be that way.I think the problem is that Cheebs is so dead set on arguing the merits of the 'summer blockbuster'people here say I obsess over the fall drama oscar bait films and now I also defend the idea of empty summer blockbusters? I can have it both ways?
you guys put too much effort into hating and classifying movies.
You're basically Access Hollywood made flesh.
I'm somewhat negative on almost every movie i watch and i love watching movies.
dayum you all are...
wait for it...
fuken distinguished mentally-challenged
I'm somewhat negative on almost every movie i watch and i love watching movies.That is a bit different than trashing any big movie that gets good reviews which tends to be the MO of Evilbore.
Cheebs, heads up.Which confuses the shit out of me. I don't get the logic behind this.
This is the internet. Everyone, especially here, is going to bash the shit out of decent films if they aren't weird or obscure.
For example:
The Dark Knight. In reality, it's probably the best Batman film. On EB, it sucks because of a plethora of reasons: it's overhyped, Heath Ledger shouldn't have won Best Supporting Actor, Christian Bale's voice sucks, etc.
Even though Star Trek is probably going to be the Casino Royale of Trek movies, it's still going to suck on this forum, even though there's enough people here that like Trek.
I'm somewhat negative on almost every movie i watch and i love watching movies.
If Star Trek does well, I wonder if we'll see a lot more films in space.Star Wars Prequels massive box office didn't bring about tons of space opera's though.
What do you think, Cheebs?
well at least we have Roland Emmerich's FOUNDATION to look forward to :-X :-X :-Xspoiler (click to show/hide)I just pre-ordered tickets for Star Trek this Friday :-[[close]
it can be the best batman movie and still suck
How does Emmerich still get big huge budgets? His last couple of films have been flops.
it can be the best batman movie and still suck
also batman the movie 1966 is the best batman movie
There is a tapas bar in Seville that has the scene from Un Chien running along the walls, fram by frame.
I didn't think Juno was ... that bad. :-[spoiler (click to show/hide)just kidding, fuck Juno
has Diablo Cody been kicked out of Hollywood yet[close]
STFU, Cheebs. You're like evilbore's version of Donnie from The Big Lebowski, except not as cool.I won't take back loving Juno. I still love Juno. But I still think her show is terrible.
there's some frightening story about how the Patriot Act was used to remove a 16-year-old from home schooling today and all I could think is "at last! a valid use!"
she has a show, too?
http://www.thisblogsmellsfunny.com/2008/03/suggested-pen-names-for-aspiring.html
And produced by steven spielberg lol.she has a show, too?
http://www.thisblogsmellsfunny.com/2008/03/suggested-pen-names-for-aspiring.html
United States of Tara. Got Showtime its best ratings in years and was also a pretty decent critical success. Already renewed for a second season.
Sorry, Patel, but Diablo Cody ain't gonna get kicked out any time soon :(
STFU, Cheebs. You're like evilbore's version of Donnie from The Big Lebowski, except not as cool.
“Star Trek” as a concept has voyaged far beyond science fiction and into the safe waters of space opera, but that doesn’t amaze me. The Gene Roddenberry years, when stories might play with questions of science, ideals or philosophy, have been replaced by stories reduced to loud and colorful action. Like so many franchises, it’s more concerned with repeating a successful formula than going boldly where no “Star Trek” has gone before.
The 2009 “Star Trek” film goes back eagerly to where “Star Trek” began, using time travel to explain a cast of mostly the same characters, only at a younger point in their lives, sailing the Starship Enterprise. As a story idea, this is sort of brilliant and saves on invention, because young Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Uhura, Scotty and the rest channel their later selves. The child is father to the man, or the Vulcan, and all that.
Don’t get me wrong. This is fun. And when Leonard Nimoy himself returns as the aged Spock, encountering another Spock (Zachary Quinto) as a young man, I was kind of delighted, although as is customary in many sci-fi films, nobody is as astonished as they should be. Holy moly! Time travel exists, and this may be me! It’s more like a little ambiguous dialogue is exchanged, and they’re off to battle the evil Romulan Capt. Nero (Eric Bana).
Time travel as we all know, is impossible in the sense it happens here, but many things are possible in this film. Anyone with the slightest notion of what a black hole is, or how it behaves, will find the black holes in “Star Trek” hilarious. The logic is also a little puzzling when Scotty can beam people into another ship in outer space, but they have to physically parachute to land on a platform in the air from which the Romulans are drilling a hole to the Earth’s core. After they land there, they fight with two Romulan guards, using ... fists and swords? The platform is suspended from Arthur C. Clark’s “space elevator,” but instead of fullerenes, the cable is made of metallic chunks the size of refrigerators.
But stop me before I get started. I mention these details only to demonstrate that the movie raises its yo-yo finger to the science, while embracing the fiction. Apart from details from the youths of the characters and the Spock reunion, it consists mostly of encounters between the Enterprise and the incomparably larger and much better armed Romulan spaceship from the future. It’s encouraging to learn that not even explosions and fires can quickly damage a starship. Also that lifeboats can save the crew, despite the vast distance from home base.
That would be because of warp speed, which for present purposes consists of looking through an unnecessary window at bright lights zapping past. This method of transportation prevents any sense of wonder at the immensity of outer space and is a convenience not only for the starship but also for the screenwriters, who can push a button and zap to the next scene. The concept of using warp speed to escape the clutches of a black hole seems like a recycling of the ancient dilemma of the rock and the hard place.
But there are affecting character moments. Young Spock is deliberately taunted in hopes he will, as a Vulcan, betray emotion. Because Zachary Quinto plays him as a bit of a self-righteous prig, it’s satisfying to see him lose it. Does poor young Spock realize he faces a lifetime of people trying to get a rise out of him? Nimoy, as the elderly Spock, must have benefitted, because he is the most human character in the film.
Chris Pine, as James Tiberius Kirk, appears first as a hot-rodding rebel who has found a Corvette in the 23rd century and drives it into the Grand Canyon. A few years after he’s put on suspension by the Academy and smuggled on board the Enterprise by Bones McCoy (Karl Urban), he becomes the ship’s captain. There are times when the command deck looks like Bring Your Child to School Day, with the kid sitting in daddy’s chair.
Uhura (Zoe Saldana) seems to have traveled through time to the pre-feminist 1960s, where she found her miniskirt and go-go boots. She seems wise and gentle and unsuited to her costume. Scotty (Simon Pegg) seems to have begun life as a character in a Scots sitcom. Eric Bana’s Nero destroys whole planets on the basis of faulty intelligence, but the character is played straight and is effective.
The special effects are slam-bam. Spatial relationships between spaceships are unclear because the Romulan ship and the Enterprise have such widely unmatched scales. Battles consist primarily of jump-suited crew members running down corridors in advance of smoke, sparks and flames. Lots of verbal commands seem implausibly slow. Consider, at light warp speeds, how imprecise it would be to say “At my command ... 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...” Between “2” and “1,” you could jump a million galaxies.
I thought about these things during “Star Trek” because I could not help myself. I understand the Star Trek science has never been intended as plausible. I understand this is not science fiction but an Ark movie using a starship. I understand that the character types are as familiar as your favorite slippers. But the franchise has become much of a muchness. The new movie essentially intends to reboot the franchise with younger characters and carry on as before. The movie deals with narrative housekeeping. Perhaps the next one will engage these characters in a more challenging and devious story, one more about testing their personalities than re-establishing them. In the meantime, you want space opera, you got it.
Whatever fits the EB mindset. Star Trek is getting near universal praise, amazing fucking amazing reviews. Any of the handful that don't like it will get worshipped.
I don't get this forum, they bash Ebert in one thread and then praise him in another.spoiler (click to show/hide)/Cheebs[close]
bringing up RT percentages like they mean something is such bullshit
Also it appeals to pseudo-hipsters.
Whatever fits the EB mindset. Star Trek is getting near universal praise, amazing fucking amazing reviews. Any of the handful that don't like it will get worshipped.
Sunday School Semenizing mmmspoiler (click to show/hide)(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51ArZ%2BIqmNL._SS500_.jpg)[close]
I wish they gave Jennifer Morrison at least one other scene. Come on she should at least been at the part when Kirk becomes Captain.
Other than that, it's easily the best Trek film, IMO. Best score, best acting, best plot, best everything.
Willco didn't you think this was going to bomb? Apparently with the thursday previews this did 33 mil yesterday and should finish out by the end of sunday with 75-80 mil.
And I expect the sequel to be a lot better. I loved the cast and the characters, far more than the overall plot.
A movie where they are all in place and on the ship from minute 1 for Trek II is what I really want. Got the origins out of the way.
Why are you guys actually debating the Bayformers apologist?
Eh, wasn't really feeling it.
It was alright.
No emotional weight to it whatsoever and almost all the entertainment value came from watching how all the crew fell into place (said crew member is dead/missing - congrats, you're promoted!).
Felt like an elongated television pilot with slick production values.
Eh, wasn't really feeling it.
It was alright.
No emotional weight to it whatsoever and almost all the entertainment value came from watching how all the crew fell into place (said crew member is dead/missing - congrats, you're promoted!).
Felt like an elongated television pilot with slick production values.
So Willco, is it worth my $7? You're right about most blockbusters, outside of Transformers and Spider-Man 3 of course
Trek dorks like Spock. Who knew.
Trek dorks like Spock. Who knew.
it's not cause I'm a Trek dork! it's cause I'm an INTJ
One of the things they should've have done was cut out the Rura Penthe sequence since it confuses people as to what Nero was doing for 25 years.It apparently really slowed down the movie as well so I am ok with it being cut. Abrams said it will be on the dvd so thats fine.
He was in Rura Penthe for those 25 years. The footage was shot, but test audiences didn't like the sequence so they cut it out. Uhura makes reference to picking up a transmission from a Klingon prison planet, which is his escape. The scenes are shown in the second trailer. The "Wait is over" line is from that part.
Here are Klingons in the trailer:
(http://img.trekmovie.com/images/st09/trailer2analysis/thumbs/165.jpg)
And Nero before he leaves Rua Penthe:
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One of the things they should've have done was cut out the Rura Penthe sequence since it confuses people as to what Nero was doing for 25 years.It apparently really slowed down the movie as well so I am ok with it being cut. Abrams said it will be on the dvd so thats fine.
He was in Rura Penthe for those 25 years. The footage was shot, but test audiences didn't like the sequence so they cut it out. Uhura makes reference to picking up a transmission from a Klingon prison planet, which is his escape. The scenes are shown in the second trailer. The "Wait is over" line is from that part.
Here are Klingons in the trailer:
(http://img.trekmovie.com/images/st09/trailer2analysis/thumbs/165.jpg)
And Nero before he leaves Rua Penthe:
(http://img.trekmovie.com/images/st09/trailer2analysis/thumbs/262.jpg)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/howaboutthat/5290491/Tony-Alleyne-and-his-Star-Trek-flat.html
Bet this guy isn't going to see the film.
Hey, will this make more then TDK?
Will it make more then Origins?
Star Trek is going to drop huge once Terminator opens.That's in like a month and a half. Movies don't really last that long lol. Wolverine looks to be dropping near 70% this weekend. I doubt Trek will have bad legs like that. It'll do better in the long run, easily. Transformers obviously will be the biggest thing this summer though.
Star Trek will make $150 million or so at the box office, which isn't spectacular, but I guess it's not a bomb.After making 70 mil+ opening weekend? I doubt it. That would mean it has pretty terrible legs.
Number one box office champion will be DRAG ME TO HELL.
I knoooooooow. :-\ Terminator will be pretty big. If I'd make a guess I'd say Wolverine - 175 mil (looks to have terrible legs based on how it dropped on friday, Trek really killed it), Star Trek 200 mil, Terminator I bet will do pretty damn well. No idea but it will do better than both of those.
After making 70 mil+ opening weekend? I doubt it. That would mean it has pretty terrible legs.This has to be the most gay buzzword ever.
oh god, cheebs can't be right about this, I refuse to believe it
I knoooooooow. :-\ Terminator will be pretty big. If I'd make a guess I'd say Wolverine - 175 mil (looks to have terrible legs based on how it dropped on friday, Trek really killed it), Star Trek 200 mil, Terminator I bet will do pretty damn well. No idea but it will do better than both of those.After making 70 mil+ opening weekend? I doubt it. That would mean it has pretty terrible legs.This has to be the most gay buzzword ever.
See, Mark's review just mirrors what i thought, here is a film critic who has a lot of knowledge of the Star Trek universe, and spends 6 and a half of his 8 min review, just talking about how "awesome" this movie was in the way that it did previous characters in the universe with new actors and they all looked and moved in ways you would expect them.The first transformers got meh reviews. Probably the same for the second. Although I enjoyed it and will enjoy the sequel.
And the action sequences were average, no mention of the terrible camera work in them, what about the underdeveloped villain, and what about the soundtrack?
It's funny, all i see is fans talking about how awesome it is that a new Star Trek is out, and it's not garbage, and looked more expensive than ever.
I bet Terminator 4 and Transformers 2 will end up blowing this movie away in terms of action, entertainment, and excitement, and yet they will get trashed by critics. Meanwhile, people will be cheering and smiling all the way through.
I'm just sorta baffled by how much of a free pass Star Trek is getting in really important stuff.
See, Mark's review just mirrors what i thought, here is a film critic who has a lot of knowledge of the Star Trek universe, and spends 6 and a half of his 8 min review, just talking about how "awesome" this movie was in the way that it did previous characters in the universe with new actors and they all looked and moved in ways you would expect them.
And the action sequences were average, no mention of the terrible camera work in them, what about the underdeveloped villain, and what about the soundtrack?
It's funny, all i see is fans talking about how awesome it is that a new Star Trek is out, and it's not garbage, and looked more expensive than ever.
I bet Terminator 4 and Transformers 2 will end up blowing this movie away in terms of action, entertainment, and excitement, and yet they will get trashed by critics. Meanwhile, people will be cheering and smiling all the way through.
I'm just sorta baffled by how much of a free pass Star Trek is getting in really important stuff.
Yeah its basicly a setup for the sequels
I think that making this a different universe was very smart, now if they wanted to they can redo old star trek stories in their own way without fanboys crying.
Really? I thought till now Star Trek never did the alternate reality thing. It would make IV and First Contact kind of pointless if it were just an alternate timeline.
Yea, that's how ST does it as far as I know. THey didn't change the future, they created an alternate reality :itisamystery
They've ALWAYS done alternate timeline and parallel universe shit.
There was a TOS episode where there was an "evil Enterprise" with a goatee'd Spock.
Saw the new STAR TREK movie last night.http://grrm.livejournal.com/
No spoilers here, just a resounding thumbs down. Take a pass.
The actors do a very creditable job of creating young versions of all the familiar characters from Classic Trek, but the writing sucks start to finish, and the science fictional aspects are ludicrous even for STAR TREK. Fans of the old show might like the film... but then again, maybe not, since it's a "reboot" (Hollywoodese for "retcon") and pisses all over the original continuity.
Me, I think they should just let this tired, tired franchise die. STAR WARS too. I don't ever need to see another wookie, or another klingon. (They won't, of course. Not so long as there's one more nickle to be made. I know how Hollywood works).
I love SF, and I love space opera, but can't we have some new characters in a new universe? Even BATTLESTAR GALACTICA was a retread, albeit a much more interesting one than anything Trek or SW has done in decades. We did have FIREFLY, short lived as it was... but there's room for more. Let's have television versions of Honor Harrington and Miles Vorkosigan. Let's have someone film the Praxis series by Walter Jon Williams, the best space opera I've read in years. Let's have anything that isn't Trek or STAR WARS.
If they really must remake old shows, screw it, let them remake Tom Corbett, Space Cadet, or Rocky Jones, Space Ranger. Pinto Vortando rules!!!
Really? I thought till now Star Trek never did the alternate reality thing. It would make IV and First Contact kind of pointless if it were just an alternate timeline.
They've ALWAYS done alternate timeline and parallel universe shit.
There was a TOS episode where there was an "evil Enterprise" with a goatee'd Spock.
Yesterday's Enterprise is my favorite TNG episode.
Typically with alternate universe stuff, we always return to the "standard" timeline. The future always seems to be fixed, but this time it wasn't.
Made 76.5 million this weekend. Very good start. Sequel is pretty much guaranteed with this.
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1118003418.html?categoryid=13&cs=1
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The one part I didn't like was how old Spock told Simon Pegg that equation. It would have been better of Pegg thought it up on the spot when he realized it was possible, not just given it.
Yesterday's Enterprise is my favorite TNG episode.
Typically with alternate universe stuff, we always return to the "standard" timeline. The future always seems to be fixed, but this time it wasn't.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TimeyWimeyBall
This movie is basically a bunch of Star Trek in-jokes.
The one part I didn't like was how old Spock told Simon Pegg that equation. It would have been better of Pegg thought it up on the spot when he realized it was possible, not just given it.
There's an awesome part in Star Trek IV where Scotty gives an equation for a plexiglass-type material that's stronger than titanium to a manufacturer and sort of shrugs off the paradox of "where did the formula come from?" as irrelevant.
I feel like Spock giving younger Scotty his equation was meant to be a reflection of that scene.
This movie is basically a bunch of Star Trek in-jokes.
same
but i can't wait to see Next Day Air
Weekend gross was under-estimated. Made 79.3 million. Fucking incredible for Star Trek.
Opening weekend it did. But it won't in the end. Wolverine fell 69%, which is abnormally bad. Trek killed it.Weekend gross was under-estimated. Made 79.3 million. Fucking incredible for Star Trek.
As big budget blockbuster in the year 2009? Eh. Wolverine made more!
Opening weekend it did. But it won't in the end. Wolverine fell 69%, which is abnormally bad. Trek killed it.Weekend gross was under-estimated. Made 79.3 million. Fucking incredible for Star Trek.
As big budget blockbuster in the year 2009? Eh. Wolverine made more!
is that chuck in solo's avatar?
solo fell off.
Actually, neither popcorn flick is really that good. We all lose!
Well, you could be in for a long summer, since nothing else really looks better than Trek. Worst overall looking summer in a while.
My office mate just got back from Star Trek and said "when I saw the Transformers 2 trailer I just felt blind rage for Michael Bay"
the first Transformers movie had the worst camera work. The worst! Way worse than Star Trek.
I'm not sure what "television camera work" is, but at the very least I was never confused as to what I was seeing on screen.
He teleported Admiral Archer's beagle to God knows where and got sent to the outpost as punishment, pretty much.
... Tear up a few times? Really?
... Really?
Because it was shot like a fucking movie and had robots fighting and was badass! :rock:lol People don't hate Transformers because of Michael Bay, they hate it because they somehow took what should have easily been AWESOME ACTION GIANT ROBOTS DESTROYING AIRPLANES AND SHIT FUCK YEAR and turned it into GOD THIS IS SO BORING. I could have at least tolerated all the lame jokes if the rest of the film wasn't coma-inducing.
... but, hey, it's Michael Bay, so let's bitch and moan.
I saw it again tonight in IMAX
the pseudo-science was a bit more obnoxious on a second viewing but otherwise it's still an excellent movie
haters need to STFU
it's far better than anything I suffered through last summer or will suffer through this summer
He teleported Admiral Archer's beagle to God knows where and got sent to the outpost as punishment, pretty much.
... Tear up a few times? Really?
... Really?
I didn't tear up but the start of the movie when its George Kirk on the bridge and it all goes silent no noise except for the Giacchino score as he starts putting the ship into a collision course as his baby is being born? Hard not to get a bit worked up.
Well, you could be in for a long summer, since nothing else really looks better than Trek. Worst overall looking summer in a while.
Terminator and Transformers both look more entertaining.
... Solo was once a great man, but that was another lifetime!
I saw it again tonight in IMAX
the pseudo-science was a bit more obnoxious on a second viewing but otherwise it's still an excellent movie
haters need to STFU
it's far better than anything I suffered through last summer or will suffer through this summer
Willco - IIRC your original claim from way back when was that moving this film from December to Summer was evidence that the studio had no faith in the production and that it was a disaster (or at least too mediocre to turn a profit during the less busy winter movie season). Having seen the final product, do you think it would have tanked in December?
Terminator? Really? McG makes Abrams look like Spielberg. Not to mention the neutered rating.
Huh? I don't hate the film, nor do I really care that it made bank. Critical reaction is meaningless.
The only thing I'm stunned is that Patel called it excellent, someone admitted to tearing up, etc. Whether or not that makes me the minority is irrelevant. Who cares? I freely admit that I enjoyed Transformers; peer acceptance is hard anything I crave. :P
Keep bringing up Star Trek making money. Who gives a shit. Wolverine will probably make more money worldwide. And Transformers 2 will double these bitches up.
And how can you say Transformers was boring? And wtf at you people wanting it to just be about mechs fighting mechs, go watch your weird anime for that shit. Fact is, tranformers was funny and action packed, and people cared more about Bumblebee than people did about billions of vulcan dying. Shit i don't think people even quite realized it, not even in the movie did people seem like they actually cared.
And Transformers, so you know, only had bad reviews by professional reviewers. The movie scored off the charts in pre screenings, in all ages, and word of mouth carried it into 702 million dollars worldwide. And it's a movie based on toys. It made 155 million dollars in the 1st week.
And home release was huge too.
Too bad you can't read, i was talking about how Cheebs keeps bringing up Star Trek doing bank as some sort of badge of quality.That isn't why I brought it up. I brought it up because I can't count how many times since this was announced in 2006 I was told on EB it'd bomb.
I'd pay good money to see that green alien broad totally naked, but sans green makeup.(http://celebrity-ladies.com/celebrities/Rachel_Nichols/1.jpg)
I'd pay good money to see that green alien broad totally naked, but sans green makeup.
I'd pay good money to see that green alien broad totally naked, but sans green makeup.
NO, THERE ISN'T.
Does anyone have any pictures of Rachel Nichols with the green makeup on? :-[
(http://www.renegade-studios.com/forum/gallery_images/1173377219/gallery_3_15735.jpg)
Fact is, tranformers was funny and action packed, and people cared more about Bumblebee than people did about billions of vulcan dying. Shit i don't think people even quite realized it, not even in the movie did people seem like they actually cared.
Fact is, tranformers was funny and action packed, and people cared more about Bumblebee than people did about billions of vulcan dying. Shit i don't think people even quite realized it, not even in the movie did people seem like they actually cared.
The people who cared about the Vulcans dying were Vulcans.
go see revanche.
it's smart and titty filled
I'm confused - I'm trying to get you to hate it?
haha, they replaced Jon Voight with John Turturro in Transformers 2
BREAK DANCING ROBOTZ
(http://www.renegade-studios.com/forum/gallery_images/1173377219/gallery_3_15735.jpg)
Captain Uhura. That's right, captain.
oh god.
Trek instead had in-joke after in-joke and not entertaining battles or action sequences.
haha, they replaced Jon Voight with John Turturro in Transformers 2
haha, they replaced Jon Voight with John Turturro in Transformers 2
Caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
You've never even seen Transformers 1. Wow ahahaha, what a moron, just another blind Bay hater. ::)
haha, they replaced Jon Voight with John Turturro in Transformers 2
Caught with his hand in the cookie jar.
You've never even seen Transformers 1. Wow ahahaha, what a moron, just another blind Bay hater. ::)
I had to see Transformers 1 as part of a work "morale building" event
BACKFIRED HORRIBLY
And this isn't about Bay, this is about Bay's TERRIBLE MOVIE
I've seen all seven of Michael Bay's movies :( :'( :-\
There's only one Bay movie that sucks.
Pear Harbor. Fuck that movie.
my favorite part of The Island is when companies spent money advertising to clones living in an isolated underground society
my favorite part of The Island is when companies spent money advertising to clones living in an isolated underground society
my favorite part of The Island is when companies spent money advertising to clones living in an isolated underground society
ha ha
really?
did russia have ads?
Bet if Spock appeared out of Michael Clark Dunkan's black hole, the tards over here would love it.
my favorite part of The Island is when companies spent money advertising to clones living in an isolated underground society
ha ha
really?
did russia have ads?
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they all wear PUMA and play on their XBOXEN
and yeah, the premise of The Island was cool but the movie itself was :-X
The Island could've been cool. I was really hoping for Logan's Run 2: The Bayening but it never materialized.
Think for ONE second: Why would Microsoft bother plastering Xbox logos over the utopian future society where the clones (believe they) live? It's not like they can go to GameStop and put $10 down on Halo 4. (Or maybe they can...)
Well i don't know if you like...watched the movie in a theater set in an underground society populated by clones....but all i saw in that videoclip was product placement.No some of those were definitely ads. Especially the x-box/budweiser ones
Not exactly what you said about advertising for monkeys. How bout you stop talking Bs?
Think for ONE second: Why would Microsoft bother plastering Xbox logos over the utopian future society where the clones (believe they) live? It's not like they can go to GameStop and put $10 down on Halo 4. (Or maybe they can...)
Think for ONE second: Why would Microsoft bother plastering Xbox logos over the utopian future society where the clones (believe they) live? It's not like they can go to GameStop and put $10 down on Halo 4. (Or maybe they can...)
You have seen some of MS's advertising attempts, right? On some scales, this one could be seen as an improvement.
Ugh, that's fake.
Michael Bay makes movie for people looking for fun.
Gay and Looking for Suicide should be our new motto.
i hate it in movies when someone at a bar orders a beer and it is completely obvious they are trying to avoid product placement
"beer, please."
it makes me think this person will just drink any old swill and they might as well say
"hey, could you take all the half-empty glasses around the bar and pour them into a frosty mug for me?"
Eel's Cinema Nitpicks™ #328
collect em all
exactly. plus, gay + boring>autistic and ADD
"uhm, uhm, what could happen next. oh yeah he lands on an ICE PLANET! and then there's monsters and shit. and he runs away from them! and then... he hides in a conveniently placed TUNNEL! and... uh.... uh... there's SPOCK! YEAH! SPOCK! now we gotta come up with a reason for why he's there. wait, this is a gigantic planet covered in ice... why would he even land so close to where spock is; why would spock even be on the same planet? why would they meet? NEVERMIND, they... uh, FIND SCOTTY! YES! and he... he... invented something that solves the fact that we have NO FUCKING CLUE how to get kirk back into the story, which seems to be unfolding billions of light years away from this planet. DEUS EX MACHINA, BITCHES!"
No scotty wouldn't necessary. It isn't the same Enterprise. The Kelvin being destroyed messed everything up. The Enterprise was built nearly 20 years later than it was "supposed" to be built due to that.I think you were supposed to accept that the bridge crew of the Enterprise was fated to be together, so that was what was going to happen.we're talking about the future spock and the present kirk. there's no reason why these two people were "fated to be together" to establish something for the franchise. this is already an alternate time line. young spock and young kirk were already familiar with each other. and scotty would have ended up on the enterprise even without kirk stranding on the ice planet - because that was part of the original time line anyway.
You still look like Anakin Skywalker!It will do fine next weekend. Another sub 50% drop. It's memorial day weekend, everything gets a boost that weekend.
And to be fair, I never said it would have bad legs, but that it would take a direct hit once Terminator came out since its the same demographic. It's not surprising it didn't slip too much this weekend - what else came out? Angels & Demons? Really?
It's not going to cross 250 million though Cheebs. You can hope but it won't.With the fantastic drops it is getting? No way. I say it will finish out at 270 mil.
]Not a fucking chance. That is well over a 50% drop, which is all but impossible on memorial day weekend. Pretty much everything drops under 50% that weekend. It's one of the biggest movie going weekends of the year.
Next Weekend Star Trek will be down to 20 million.
And are you sure the whole 50% drop isn't for 2nd weekends?Huh? Movies tend to drop less their third weekend than their second weekend. And most blockbuster movies like Trek drop well over 50% their second weekend. And memorial day weekend almost always boost all films currently out.
why didn't you go with them?
for someone who talks about movies a lot you seem to rarely go.why didn't you go with them?
Not interested in seeing it. I'll wait until someone rents it for Christmas
I just watched it and I agree that it is "fun and watchable". But not anymore than Firefly.Abrams cut out an entire side plot about Bana and his group being arrested by klingons and put on a klingon prison planet and it having them escape and attack the entire fleet. Pretty lengthy bit there cut out.
The thing I disliked the most was how much they cut out. You can easily tell that this was a (packed) 3 hour movie with an hour of content cut out. It just feels like there's too little backstory for a lot of the (main) characters and there's not a lot of build-up to a lot of plot elements (like spock and ahura).
I like what they added though with the time travel and the Scotty's warp tech, but the other origin stories were really fucking corny. The birth scene and Spock's childhood were lolworthy.
I liked it more than I expected to, but this movie will have a fucking awesome DVD with probably around an extra hour of "mandatory" content. It is actually nice to watch it in a theater though because of how awesome the sound and visuals were for the action scenes.
for someone who talks about movies a lot you seem to rarely go.why didn't you go with them?
Not interested in seeing it. I'll wait until someone rents it for Christmas
I just watched it and I agree that it is "fun and watchable". But not anymore than Firefly.Abrams cut out an entire side plot about Bana and his group being arrested by klingons and put on a klingon prison planet and it having them escape and attack the entire fleet. Pretty lengthy bit there cut out.
The thing I disliked the most was how much they cut out. You can easily tell that this was a (packed) 3 hour movie with an hour of content cut out. It just feels like there's too little backstory for a lot of the (main) characters and there's not a lot of build-up to a lot of plot elements (like spock and ahura).
I like what they added though with the time travel and the Scotty's warp tech, but the other origin stories were really fucking corny. The birth scene and Spock's childhood were lolworthy.
I liked it more than I expected to, but this movie will have a fucking awesome DVD with probably around an extra hour of "mandatory" content. It is actually nice to watch it in a theater though because of how awesome the sound and visuals were for the action scenes.
He said in a interview it will be on the dvd at least as a deleted scene but said he may actually put it back in the film. So it could. It got cut because apparently test audiences said it dragged the film down and Paramount made Abrams cut it.I just watched it and I agree that it is "fun and watchable". But not anymore than Firefly.Abrams cut out an entire side plot about Bana and his group being arrested by klingons and put on a klingon prison planet and it having them escape and attack the entire fleet. Pretty lengthy bit there cut out.
The thing I disliked the most was how much they cut out. You can easily tell that this was a (packed) 3 hour movie with an hour of content cut out. It just feels like there's too little backstory for a lot of the (main) characters and there's not a lot of build-up to a lot of plot elements (like spock and ahura).
I like what they added though with the time travel and the Scotty's warp tech, but the other origin stories were really fucking corny. The birth scene and Spock's childhood were lolworthy.
I liked it more than I expected to, but this movie will have a fucking awesome DVD with probably around an extra hour of "mandatory" content. It is actually nice to watch it in a theater though because of how awesome the sound and visuals were for the action scenes.
Any chance of this surfacing on the DVD/BD in a director's cut? Im sure it would make it in there as a deleted scene, but Id rather see it within the flow of the movie.
He said in a interview it will be on the dvd at least as a deleted scene but said he may actually put it back in the film. So it could. It got cut because apparently test audiences said it dragged the film down and Paramount made Abrams cut it.Abrams cut out an entire side plot about Bana and his group being arrested by klingons and put on a klingon prison planet and it having them escape and attack the entire fleet. Pretty lengthy bit there cut out.
Any chance of this surfacing on the DVD/BD in a director's cut? Im sure it would make it in there as a deleted scene, but Id rather see it within the flow of the movie.
I loved it.spoiler (click to show/hide)The way Nero screamed "SPOCK!" at the top of his lungs was awesome. :lol
Also, whoever cast Simon Pegg as Scotty nailed it. The only other time I could say that was when I learned that Snoop Dogg was cast as Huggy Bear in the Starsky and Hutch movie.[close]
McCoy was also really well casted.
He had McCoy's Katra rattling around in his head.
Nero's reasoning probably had a lot to do with being in a Klingon prison for two decades (they cut that out). Maybe they even had a more logical reason for how everyone met on that ice planet but cut that out also.
The worst thing that they included is the part where young kirk jacks his stepfather's car for no apparent reason, blasts 20th century music for no apparent reason, and then destroys a 240 year old piece of American history for no real apparent reason. That was a wast of 5 minutes.
the idea was to show the renegade, young Kirk and have a wildly anachronistic scene where you had an earthbound, almost back-looking scene combined with a forward-looking futuristic scene technologically.
How the hell did the Klingons capture Nero anyway? His ship is supposed to easily buttfuck every ship of the movie's time period
That type of renegade phase might have made a little more sense if Kirk was a little older (15ish) and if he didn't decide to crash a 240 year old corvette. That was just fucked.Quotethe idea was to show the renegade, young Kirk and have a wildly anachronistic scene where you had an earthbound, almost back-looking scene combined with a forward-looking futuristic scene technologically.
That type of renegade phase might have made a little more sense if Kirk was a little older (15ish) and if he didn't decide to crash a 240 year old corvette. That was just fucked.Quotethe idea was to show the renegade, young Kirk and have a wildly anachronistic scene where you had an earthbound, almost back-looking scene combined with a forward-looking futuristic scene technologically.
That type of renegade phase might have made a little more sense if Kirk was a little older (15ish) and if he didn't decide to crash a 240 year old corvette. That was just fucked.Quotethe idea was to show the renegade, young Kirk and have a wildly anachronistic scene where you had an earthbound, almost back-looking scene combined with a forward-looking futuristic scene technologically.
The main problem was that the scene had almost zero context. I mean, apparently his mom remarried and he doesn't like his step-dad, but all that comes from a single line of throw-away dialogue, we're never actually shown anything to set it up. They could have just as easily segued from his birth to being beaten up in the bar and we'd have gotten exactly the same impression of his life.
They did it for the trailer
lol @ Salvation AND night at the museum doing worse in 5 days than Trek did in 3. And Trek made 29M in the same four day span. and a sub-50% drop like Cheebs said
Wrika/Willco annihilated
You guys that make fun of people who made mistaken predictions -- are you always this graceful in victory?
The new cast was pretty cool though. I'd like to see a film where Kirk gets his comeuppance, though.
I saw this last night and exited conflicted. I thought the scenes themselves were good, but the script was atrocious and kirk's character continues to live a life free of any consequences for his terrible behavior, which makes for weak drama.
The new cast was pretty cool though. I'd like to see a film where Kirk gets his comeuppance, though.
The new cast was pretty cool though. I'd like to see a film where Kirk gets his comeuppance, though.
Wasn't that Star Trek II?
SPOCK PRIME
Then I ask that you do yourself a
favor... put away logic, and do what
feels right. The world you've inherited
lives in the shadow of incalculable
devastation... but there's no reason you
must face it alone.
And from around his neck, he removes the PENDANT that until now,
we've only caught glimpses of. Places it on the table beside
his younger self. The feeling in his eyes is profound...
SPOCK PRIME (CONT'D)
This was a gift to me. Representing...
a dream. One we were unable to fulfill.
(softly)
The way you can now.
And moves to the door. Stops. Offers the VULCAN SALUTE:
SPOCK PRIME (CONT'D)
As my customary farewell would appear
oddly self serving, I will simply say...
good luck.
Their eyes hold. Spock turns, disappearing into the corridor.
Young Spock stares at the empty doorway a beat, his mind a
jumble of thoughts. Looks to the pendant... and realizes it's a
HOLO-EMITTER. After considering a beat, he hits an activation
button and a MOVING HOLOGRAPHIC MESSAGE materializes before him:
CAPTAIN JAMES T. KIRK. WILLIAM SHATNER. As always, brash, wry,
confident -- and SINGING:
KIRK/ SHATNER
Happy birthday to you, happy birthday to
you...
(stops, grins)
I know I know, it's illogical to
celebrate something you had nothing to do
with, but I haven't had the chance to
congratulate you on your appointment to
the ambassadorship so I thought I'd seize
the occasion... Bravo, Spock -- they tell
me your first mission may take you away
for awhile, so I'll be the first to wish
you luck... and to say...
(beat, emotional)
I miss you, old friend.
... and we're PUSHING IN on Young Spock, taking in the image of
Kirk's future self, the message, but above all -- the clear,
unquestionable friendship these two men had...
INT. CORRIDOR - CONTINUOUS
As Spock Prime walks off down the corridor, he passes right by a
man conferring with a nurse -- the man pauses, turns... it's
SAREK. Suddenly overcome by a feeling that the stranger who's
just passed him is... oddly familiar.
KIRK/SHATNER (V.O.)
I suppose I'd always imagined us...
outgrowing Starfleet together. Watching
life swing us into our Emeritus years...
INT. STARBASE ONE - HANGAR - ETERNAL NIGHT
MUSIC BUILDING -- glass walls reveal THE ENTERPRISE at dock,
UTILITY CRAFTS floating around it, repairing. Standing at
attention in rows, THE ENTERPRISE CREW -- over four hundred of
them wearing DRESS UNIFORMS -- TRACK DOWN the faces, all proud:
KIRK/SHATNER (V.O.)
I look around at the new cadets now and
can't help thinking... has it really been
so long? Wasn't it only yesterday we
stepped onto the Enterprise as boys?
That I had to prove to the crew I
deserved command... and their respect?
And we STOP ON YOUNG KIRK. Composed, focused, proud. A man.
And to every fan's delight, finally wearing his YELLOW SHIRT.
The FEDERATION COMMANDANT stands at a podium:
COMMANDANT
This assembly calls Captain James
Tiberius Kirk...
Kirk breaks from formation, pivots, marches down the hangar --
past UHURA... SULU... CHEKOV... SCOTTY. All Beaming. Notably
absent, is Spock. Kirk ascends the stairs, snaps to attention:
COMMANDANT (CONT'D)
Your inspirational valor and supreme
dedication to your comrades are in
keeping with the highest traditions of
service and reflect utmost credit to
yourself, your crew, and the Federation.
By Starfleet Order 28455, you are hereby
directed to report to Commanding Officer,
USS Enterprise, for duty as his relief.
Kirk turns. Walks to... PIKE. In a wheelchair now, wearing an
ADMIRAL'S UNIFORM. Overnight, his hair's turned totally grey --
but despite his trauma, his pride's overwhelming. They SALUTE
each other:
KIRK
I relieve you, Sir.
PIKE
... I am relieved.
He opens a BOX in his lap -- glorious in repose, a MEDAL:
PIKE (CONT'D)
And as Fleet Admiral, for your... unique
solution to the Kobayashi Maru, it's my
honor to award you with a commendation
for original thinking.
Pike containing a smirk, pins the medal to Kirk's chest...
PIKE (CONT'D)
(a touch choked)
Congratulations, Captain.
KIRK
Thank you, Sir.
Kirk turns to the crowd. Eyes shining. WILD APPLAUSE. OUR
MUSIC SOARS. Bones leans in to Sulu, rolling his eyes:
BONES
... Same ship, different day.
As Kirk rejoins his crew for hugs and congratulations, we go to
the BACK of the hangar... SPOCK PRIME. Watching. Moved beyond
words. He turns and leaves them to it... as he goes...
KIRK/SHATNER (V.O.)
I know what you'd say -- `It's their turn
now, Jim...' And of course you're
right... but it got me thinking:
INT. STARFLEET HOSPITAL - EARTH - DAY
Our montage comes full circle as we END on Kirk's transmission:
KIRK/SHATNER
Who's to say we can't go one more round?
By the last tally, only twenty five
percent of the galaxy's been chartered...
I'd call that negligent. Criminal even --
an invitation.
(MORE)
KIRK/SHATNER (CONT'D)
You once said being a starship captain
was my first, best destiny... if that's
true, then yours is to be by my side. If
there's any true logic to the universe...
we'll end up on that bridge again
someday.
Stops, grins. Because this is the part he needs to say most...
KIRK
Admit it, Spock. For people like us, the
journey itself... is home.
Young Spock's face. Lost in feelings that flood through him.
KAHN stranded on Ceti Alpha 5 speaks into a communicator.
KAHN
You've won this day Kirk. But someday...someday...I shall have my WRATH upon thee!
I didn't even remembered this movie until I saw this thread.
Yeah, it was cool seeing the Klingon stuff that was cut. Why the helmets, though?
Yeah, it was cool seeing the Klingon stuff that was cut. Why the helmets, though?
One of the documentaries (I think it's the Aliens one) talks about the helmets on the Klingons. Basically, they weren't sure how they were going to portray the Klingon's foreheads since the 60s show had the Klingons without the forehead bumps, so the helmets allowed them to only have to do their brows (they show some of the actors without the helmets on). They're still thinking how about they'll show off the Klingons in the next movie.