Author Topic: Star Trek fans bash new film as "fun, watchable" (Read 37694 times)

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #360 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:07:07 PM »

The Island - from the writers of Star Trek, no less!

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #361 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:08:03 PM »

Bet if Spock appeared out of Michael Clark Dunkan's black hole, the tards over here would love it.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #362 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:08:39 PM »

Quote from: WrikaWrek on May 12, 2009, 07:08:03 PM

Bet if Spock appeared out of Michael Clark Dunkan's black hole, the tards over here would love it.

I smell Photoshop!

Eric P · « **Reply #363 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:10:06 PM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on May 12, 2009, 07:02:48 PM

Quote from: Eric P on May 12, 2009, 06:56:39 PM
Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on May 12, 2009, 06:51:37 PM
my favorite part of The Island is when companies spent money advertising to clones living in an isolated underground society

ha ha

really?

did russia have ads?

[youtube=560,345]zeVQwomIgjs[/youtube]

they all wear PUMA and play on their XBOXEN

and yeah, the premise of The Island was cool but the movie itself was

lolacting on scarlet's part

TVC15 · « **Reply #364 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:11:49 PM »

Quote from: Willco on May 12, 2009, 06:58:25 PM

The Island could've been cool. I was really hoping for Logan's Run 2: The Bayening but it never materialized.

Bay wouldn't put titties in. Much less awesome 70s titties. He could never do a Logan's Run sequel.

enjoy bell woods · « **Reply #365 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:13:15 PM »

Star Trek Insurrection was awesome.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #366 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:13:39 PM »

within the context of the movie, they're product placement

within the context of the narrative, they're advertisement

Think for ONE second: Why would Microsoft bother plastering Xbox logos over the utopian future society where the clones (believe they) live? It's not like they can go to GameStop and put $10 down on Halo 4. (Or maybe they can...)

enjoy bell woods · « **Reply #367 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:15:03 PM »

Ads r 4 fegs.

TVC15 · « **Reply #368 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:15:41 PM »

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on May 12, 2009, 07:13:39 PM

Think for ONE second: Why would Microsoft bother plastering Xbox logos over the utopian future society where the clones (believe they) live? It's not like they can go to GameStop and put $10 down on Halo 4. (Or maybe they can...)

You have seen some of MS's advertising attempts, right? On some scales, this one could be seen as an improvement.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #369 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:16:28 PM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on May 12, 2009, 07:11:54 PM

Quote from: WrikaWrek on May 12, 2009, 07:06:06 PM
Well i don't know if you like...watched the movie in a theater set in an underground society populated by clones....but all i saw in that videoclip was product placement.

Not exactly what you said about advertising for monkeys. How bout you stop talking Bs?
No some of those were definitely ads. Especially the x-box/budweiser ones

Budweiser was in the "real world".

And Xbox is the name they give to the games machine. Just like you name something, something.

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on May 12, 2009, 07:13:39 PM

Think for ONE second: Why would Microsoft bother plastering Xbox logos over the utopian future society where the clones (believe they) live? It's not like they can go to GameStop and put $10 down on Halo 4. (Or maybe they can...)

^

It's the name of the games machine.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #370 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:17:18 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on May 12, 2009, 07:15:41 PM

Quote from: Synthesizer Patel on May 12, 2009, 07:13:39 PM

Think for ONE second: Why would Microsoft bother plastering Xbox logos over the utopian future society where the clones (believe they) live? It's not like they can go to GameStop and put $10 down on Halo 4. (Or maybe they can...)

You have seen some of MS's advertising attempts, right? On some scales, this one could be seen as an improvement.

hmm, maybe "The Island" is used to focus test upcoming Microsoft products and ad campaigns

spoiler (click to show/hide)

does this explain Vista?

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WrikaWrek · « **Reply #371 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:18:13 PM »

And really? Product placement is your big problem with a movie? That's what stucks with you? ugh

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #372 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:21:22 PM »

yes, the only problem I have with The Island is the product placement. had Michael Bay been able to tone that down it would be considered a film on par with Jean-Luc Godard's Alphaville as an exploration of man's isolation through increased technology

wait no I also had a problem with the movie being TERRIBLE

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #373 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:24:30 PM »

Why was it terrible?

Oblivion · « **Reply #374 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:24:54 PM »

At least Michael Bay had the decency to only ruin Transformers.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #375 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:26:46 PM »

Ugh, that's fake.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #376 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:27:50 PM »

So you are gay and boring.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #377 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:29:16 PM »

um, gay people are never boring. it's in ~~our~~ their contract.

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #378 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:31:17 PM »

man Captain Pike was soo dreamy...

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #379 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:31:40 PM »

Michael Bay makes movie for people looking for fun.

Considering half the bore is gay and looking for suicide, i ain't surprised at the opinions.

Oblivion · « **Reply #380 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:35:10 PM »

Quote from: WrikaWrek on May 12, 2009, 07:26:46 PM

Ugh, that's fake.

Tell me more, Mr. Hitchens.

TVC15 · « **Reply #381 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:43:17 PM »

Gay and Looking for Suicide should be our new motto.

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #382 on:** May 12, 2009, 07:50:34 PM »

Quote from: WrikaWrek on May 12, 2009, 07:31:40 PM

Michael Bay makes movie for people looking for fun.

That's probably explains why the Island tanked at the box office then

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #383 on:** May 12, 2009, 08:08:56 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on May 12, 2009, 07:43:17 PM

Gay and Looking for Suicide should be our new motto.

agree, time for a new masthead

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #384 on:** May 12, 2009, 08:22:29 PM »

i hate it in movies when someone at a bar orders a beer and it is completely obvious they are trying to avoid product placement

"beer, please."

it makes me think this person will just drink any old swill and they might as well say

"hey, could you take all the half-empty glasses around the bar and pour them into a frosty mug for me?"

Eel's Cinema Nitpicks™ #328

collect em all

ManaByte · « **Reply #385 on:** May 12, 2009, 08:35:52 PM »

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on May 12, 2009, 08:22:29 PM

i hate it in movies when someone at a bar orders a beer and it is completely obvious they are trying to avoid product placement

"beer, please."

it makes me think this person will just drink any old swill and they might as well say

"hey, could you take all the half-empty glasses around the bar and pour them into a frosty mug for me?"

Eel's Cinema Nitpicks™ #328

collect em all

Except in this movie it was Bud Classic since main engineering was filmed at a Bud plant.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #386 on:** May 12, 2009, 08:37:03 PM »

i haven't seen it yet

i was basically just posting to myself

cool breeze · « **Reply #387 on:** May 12, 2009, 08:59:21 PM »

Back to the Future has the best product placement. The Pepsi Free line is hilarious if only because some people don't get it.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #388 on:** May 13, 2009, 03:40:17 AM »

Quote from: Genghis Cohen on May 12, 2009, 07:30:02 PM

exactly. plus, gay + boring>autistic and ADD

WTF, that's exactly what I diagnosed myself with last night.

err the latter

The Sceneman · « **Reply #389 on:** May 13, 2009, 07:42:09 AM »

have you ever shoved a wii sensor bar up your ass bro

Tauntaun · « **Reply #390 on:** May 13, 2009, 11:25:34 AM »

Saw it last night, fun but forgettable is how I'd describe it with a dash of I'm still interested in the series if they do the next movie right. We'll see.

BlackMage · « **Reply #391 on:** May 13, 2009, 03:01:27 PM »

gay and looking for suicide?

I thought this forum was for people who are straight and looking for sex!!

..or is Jarosh the only person to accomplish this? DAMN YOU JAROSH

Robo · « **Reply #392 on:** May 13, 2009, 03:13:02 PM »

jarosh has it worse than anyone; so very gay and forced to participate so much hetero sex. :'(

Junpei the Tracer! · « **Reply #393 on:** May 13, 2009, 09:13:49 PM »

I really liked this, it was a quality film.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #394 on:** May 14, 2009, 04:32:09 AM »

Yes, but Star Trek is cool now!

I was surprised by Giacchino. I normally like him, but maybe Star Trek has exposed him as a one-trick pony.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #395 on:** May 14, 2009, 04:34:41 AM »

I thought his scores for The Incredibles and Speed Racer were pretty good, but he seems to be pretty good at regurgitating 60s scores and, uh, that's about it.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #396 on:** May 14, 2009, 04:35:57 AM »

I did like the overture he scored for Cloverfield, though.

... on the other hand, it's a blatant homage to Godzilla scores.

Cheebs · « **Reply #397 on:** May 14, 2009, 09:31:11 AM »

Star Trek pretty much died after Nemesis and Enterprise bombed. Cool mainstream action Star Trek or no Star Trek at all was the options on the table really.

cool breeze · « **Reply #398 on:** May 14, 2009, 11:20:52 AM »

Quote

"uhm, uhm, what could happen next. oh yeah he lands on an ICE PLANET! and then there's monsters and shit. and he runs away from them! and then... he hides in a conveniently placed TUNNEL! and... uh.... uh... there's SPOCK! YEAH! SPOCK! now we gotta come up with a reason for why he's there. wait, this is a gigantic planet covered in ice... why would he even land so close to where spock is; why would spock even be on the same planet? why would they meet? NEVERMIND, they... uh, FIND SCOTTY! YES! and he... he... invented something that solves the fact that we have NO FUCKING CLUE how to get kirk back into the story, which seems to be unfolding billions of light years away from this planet. DEUS EX MACHINA, BITCHES!"

-Spock was on that planet because it was close to Vulcan or whatever because the bad guy wanted him to watch it explode
-Kirk was put there because the good guy ship was just leaving the exploded Vulcan area
-Scotty was there because he done fucked up and was banished to a place with seemingly no escape

I don't know if that whole warp thing is a normal Star Trek thing, so I can't really say if that was something they made up for the movie or not. But the rest was explained just fine. There are so many other plot holes the movie does have to complain about, like how Kirk goes from being radically sick one second to sky diving another.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #399 on:** May 14, 2009, 11:58:57 AM »

I think you were supposed to accept that the bridge crew of the Enterprise was fated to be together, so that was what was going to happen.

Cheebs · « **Reply #400 on:** May 14, 2009, 01:25:21 PM »

Quote from: jarosh on May 14, 2009, 12:35:45 PM

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on May 14, 2009, 11:58:57 AM
I think you were supposed to accept that the bridge crew of the Enterprise was fated to be together, so that was what was going to happen.
we're talking about the future spock and the present kirk. there's no reason why these two people were "fated to be together" to establish something for the franchise. this is already an alternate time line. young spock and young kirk were already familiar with each other. and scotty would have ended up on the enterprise even without kirk stranding on the ice planet - because that was part of the original time line anyway.

No scotty wouldn't necessary. It isn't the same Enterprise. The Kelvin being destroyed messed everything up. The Enterprise was built nearly 20 years later than it was "supposed" to be built due to that.

Cheebs · « **Reply #401 on:** May 17, 2009, 02:23:45 PM »

Soooo Willco after the fantastic opening weekend you admitted you were wrong that it would bomb but said it would have bad legs and top out at 150 mil. It dropped only 42% this weekend and is at nearly 150 mil in little over one week.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #402 on:** May 17, 2009, 02:26:56 PM »

You still look like Anakin Skywalker!

And to be fair, I never said it would have bad legs, but that it would take a direct hit once Terminator came out since its the same demographic. It's not surprising it didn't slip too much this weekend - what else came out? Angels & Demons? Really?

Cheebs · « **Reply #403 on:** May 17, 2009, 02:36:29 PM »

Quote from: Willco on May 17, 2009, 02:26:56 PM

You still look like Anakin Skywalker!

And to be fair, I never said it would have bad legs, but that it would take a direct hit once Terminator came out since its the same demographic. It's not surprising it didn't slip too much this weekend - what else came out? Angels & Demons? Really?

It will do fine next weekend. Another sub 50% drop. It's memorial day weekend, everything gets a boost that weekend.

And you still said it would top out at 150 mil after last weekends boxoffice.

The Fake Shemp · « **Reply #404 on:** May 17, 2009, 02:38:03 PM »

I underestimated how many times you'd see it.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #405 on:** May 17, 2009, 02:38:13 PM »

It's not going to cross 250 million though Cheebs. You can hope but it won't.

And the movie industry is a worldwide affair dude, and Star Trek has shown less than incredible performance overseas. Angels and Demons doubled it in 3 days.

Terminator 4 and Night at the Museum 2 are coming out the week after. Too much competition, doesn't matter the legs start Trek has right now.

Cheebs · « **Reply #406 on:** May 17, 2009, 02:40:41 PM »

Quote from: WrikaWrek on May 17, 2009, 02:38:13 PM

It's not going to cross 250 million though Cheebs. You can hope but it won't.

With the fantastic drops it is getting? No way. I say it will finish out at 270 mil.

And again, the competition is meaningless since its memorial day weekend next weekend. EVERYTHING has fantastic drops that weekend.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #407 on:** May 17, 2009, 02:45:19 PM »

Fantastic drops due to crap competition.

Angels and Demons is not a hot target for Americans, Wolverine suffered from being shit.

Next Weekend Star Trek will be down to 20 million. Then the week after it will be down to 10 million, and then 3 million, and then it will fade away.

It will end under 250 million domestic, and under 80 million overseas for an worldwide total of 320 million give or take. Which will be great for the franchise i guess, but not spectacular for a 150 million movie.

Cheebs · « **Reply #408 on:** May 17, 2009, 02:48:16 PM »

Quote from: WrikaWrek on May 17, 2009, 02:45:19 PM

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Next Weekend Star Trek will be down to 20 million.

Not a fucking chance. That is well over a 50% drop, which is all but impossible on memorial day weekend. Pretty much everything drops under 50% that weekend. It's one of the biggest movie going weekends of the year.

ferrarimanf355 · « **Reply #409 on:** May 17, 2009, 02:50:08 PM »

I'm going to go see it in an hour or so. I hope it lives up to the hype.

WrikaWrek · « **Reply #410 on:** May 17, 2009, 02:51:06 PM »

Which is why it's going to be massive for Terminator 4, which will also do gangbusters overseas unlike Star Trek, and why Museum 2 will also break the bank.

Seriously, who is Start Trek going to get into the theaters? You have 2 big opening movies that target different demographics, one of them being your own.

And are you sure the whole 50% drop isn't for 2nd weekends?

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #411 on:** May 17, 2009, 02:52:02 PM »

sales talk is fucking horrible.

Cheebs · « **Reply #412 on:** May 17, 2009, 02:54:08 PM »

Quote from: WrikaWrek on May 17, 2009, 02:51:06 PM

And are you sure the whole 50% drop isn't for 2nd weekends?

Huh? Movies tend to drop less their third weekend than their second weekend. And most blockbuster movies like Trek drop well over 50% their second weekend. And memorial day weekend almost always boost all films currently out.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #413 on:** May 17, 2009, 05:42:07 PM »

k one of my brothers (age 18) gave it a 2.5/5. Honestly I think he liked it and is too embarrassed to admit it because he originally said "well on a good day it's a 3.5/5..." which makes no sense. After some prodding he lowered the score so yea, I don't believe him

another brother (16) said it was a solid 4/5. He really liked it

And my mom...

Mom: You have to see it, I was having flashbacks all through it! All the characters from the original show are there!
Me: So...what do you give it
Mom: Hmmm...4.5!
Me: So it was better than X-Men Origins?
Mom: Well they're about even

EvilBoris · « **Reply #414 on:** May 17, 2009, 05:50:25 PM »

why didn't you go with them?

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #415 on:** May 17, 2009, 05:53:58 PM »

I agree with your mum PD.

Origins is okay. Star Trek is perhaps more fun, but they are both okay, nothing special.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #416 on:** May 17, 2009, 05:54:41 PM »

Quote from: EvilBoris on May 17, 2009, 05:50:25 PM

why didn't you go with them?

Not interested in seeing it. I'll wait until someone rents it for Christmas

Cheebs · « **Reply #417 on:** May 17, 2009, 06:49:11 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on May 17, 2009, 05:54:41 PM

Quote from: EvilBoris on May 17, 2009, 05:50:25 PM
why didn't you go with them?

Not interested in seeing it. I'll wait until someone rents it for Christmas

for someone who talks about movies a lot you seem to rarely go.

Solo · « **Reply #418 on:** May 17, 2009, 07:55:03 PM »

Saw it a second time today and loved it just as much as the first time. Great drop this weekend too.

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #419 on:** May 17, 2009, 08:17:51 PM »

can we ban willco from sales predictions?

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Author Topic: Star Trek fans bash new film as "fun, watchable" (Read 37694 times)